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     Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 1241 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
Kola Boof, I can't believe you aren't running with this. I am going to let you take it from here. | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 3641 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
Chris, You mean the dish about McMillan divorcing her +20 younger "How Stella Got Her Grove Back" husband because he allegedly came out the closet? | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 3643 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
Well. McMillan fans should 'rejoice'. Because Terry's next semi-autobiographical novel should ROCK the literary joint! | ||
| Moonsigns "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Moonsigns Post Number: 539 Registered: 07-2004 Rating: N/A |
If that's the truth....yuck. I feel sorry for her. | ||
| Kola Moderator Username: Kola Post Number: 1740 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
I haven't seen anything to PROVE that this ugly rumor is true. And if it is, then I feel very sad for Terry. I think she's a hilarious, beautiful, sweet person. What I WOULD like to know is what vitamins Oprah is taking? She looks so GORGEOUS all of a sudden--all the time!  | ||
| Moonsigns "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Moonsigns Post Number: 543 Registered: 07-2004 Rating: N/A |
Oprah is looking very good these days....very healthy. She isn't eating refined foods. Omitting refined foods from the diet takes years off the appearance of the skin and face. There is a great book about this called 'The Schwarzbein Principle' By Dr. Diane/Diana Schwarzbein. The author of this book looks very healthy, too. It doesn't hurt Oprah that she has an amazing 'beauty' team either. | ||
| Cynnique Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
I always thought Teri's boy toy looked and acted a little "sweet." Oprah once did a show revealing how long it takes and how much has to be done for her to emerge looking the way she does. They showed her in her natural state and she did, indeed, come across as looking quite "different." | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 3646 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
Kola, That Vitamin B, as in 'billionaire' thats making Oprah look so good. It's stocked with ample daily supplements of personal trainers, daily hair stylings, make-up artists and estheticians. If you ever get a chance, you should sample a tablet. Oh. And the part about her not having any husband/kids to be concerned about helps too. | ||
| Libralind2 "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Libralind2 Post Number: 145 Registered: 09-2004 Rating: N/A |
Oooo my. My doctor prescribed B-6 and stress tabs B complex for my foot. There are side effects associated with this vitamin...? Well.."beautiful" works for me..LOL LiLi | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 3652 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
LiLi, That's different Vitamin B. Oprah's a bit more EXPENSIVE and you can NOT find it at your local drugstore. | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 1245 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
All: Don't forget lighting, makeup artists and airbrushing when it comes to photos! She ain't the only one--Fantasy is Reality in the World Today! | ||
| Libralind2 "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Libralind2 Post Number: 147 Registered: 09-2004 Rating: N/A |
Oh "snap" Abm...you bringer of bad news..LOL LiLi | ||
| Libralind2 "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Libralind2 Post Number: 151 Registered: 09-2004 Rating: |
Epilogue for 'Stella' author: a messy divorce - Phillip Matier, Andrew Ross Sunday, June 26, 2005 In a tale rich in lost love, closeted secrets and acrimonious divorce, it turns out that famed local writer Terry McMillan -- whose celebrated romance and subsequent marriage to a man 23 years her junior became the subject of her fictionized best-seller "How Stella Got Her Groove Back" -- actually got her groove back with a man who now says he's gay. The story is spilling out in made-for-Hollywood detail in Contra Costa County Superior Court, where McMillan has filed for divorce from her Jamaican- born husband of six years, Jonathan Plummer. McMillan, 53, said in court documents that the marriage was based on a "fraud'' because Plummer lied about his sexual orientation -- and married her only to gain U.S. citizenship. "It was devastating to discover that a relationship I had publicized to the world as life-affirming and built on mutual love was actually based on deceit,'' she wrote in her declaration. "I was humiliated." Plummer, 30, countered in court papers of his own that McMillan has turned on him with a "homophobic'' vengeance and is trying to force his return to an uncertain future in Jamaica. He wants to void the couple's prenuptial agreement that would keep from him most of the millions she's earned as a writer. He also claims he was denied his full share of royalties, as spelled out in the prenup, from "How Stella Got Her Groove Back," the fictionalized account of a single mother's torrid relationship with a Jamaican young enough to be her son that very much parallels the lives of McMillan and Plummer. Plummer's attorney, Dolores Sargent, said her client has no interest in embarrassing McMillan or extorting money from her. "All I want to do is settle the case in a way that's fair to both parties ... and that allows Jonathan sufficient funds to re-establish himself,'' Sargent said. "And we have been blocked.'' In court papers, however, McMillan leaves little doubt that she believes Plummer was always motivated by money. "Jonathan has manipulated me from the very beginning in his scheme to come to the United States, become a citizen and get rich through someone else's effort,'' McMillan wrote in one of her filings. In fact, McMillan says Plummer zeroed in on her precisely because of her celebrity status as an author whose earlier books included "Waiting to Exhale, '' which sold some 4 million copies and was made into a movie. In an interview, Plummer insisted that he didn't know he was gay when he met McMillan in June 1995 at a Jamaican resort. Nor, he says, did he seize on the author's fame. "I was a 20-year-old kid when I met her and had no idea that she was anybody other than an attractive, older woman,'' he said in court papers. For her part, McMillan, who was then 42, said she worried when she first met Plummer that he was interested only in her money. "But Jonathan was very charming and made me believe that he was crazy about me,'' she told the court. The two eventually married in Maui on Sept. 8, 1998 -- but not before Plummer signed a prenup that waived his rights to everything should they ever part, including "temporary and permanent spousal support and attorney's fees, '' according to court papers filed by McMillan. The couple settled in McMillan's $4 million Danville home and, at least according to Plummer, enjoyed a happy life -- until the last few years when the marriage started coming undone. "He became less attentive, less charming, more distracted and absent from the home,'' McMillan wrote in her declaration. Plummer said he was spending long hours with a dog-grooming business in Danville that McMillan had set up for him a couple of years ago in apparent anticipation of a split. It wasn't until just before last Christmas, Plummer says, that the two finally split -- after he revealed he was gay. "I was kicked out of the house in December right after I told her,'' he said in the interview. In court records, however, McMillan says Plummer confessed to being gay only after she confronted him about all his hours of phone calls to a male friend living in Jamaica. She also says she later learned that Plummer was participating in online gay chat sites. In any event, judging from the court filings, the disclosure quickly turned ugly. McMillan obtained a restraining order to keep Plummer from their house, and she claimed she recently discovered that Plummer had embezzled at least $200,000 from her bank accounts before and during their marriage. (He admits in court papers "a gross error of judgment" in taking $62,000 without her knowledge, but said that he was financially dependent on her during the marriage and that he intends to pay it back.) Plummer obtained his own restraining order against the author, alleging that McMillan constantly harassed him for coming out of the closet, and at one point walked into his dog-grooming business and tossed a ceramic object across the room. "She kept calling me, saying nasty things about me being gay, calling me a fag,'' Plummer said in an interview. In a Jan. 14 letter written by McMillan and filed with the court, the author told Plummer, "The reason you're going to make a great fag is that most of you guys are just like dogs anyway. ... You do whatever with whomever pleases you and don't seem to care about the consequences." Plummer also says McMillan came into the dog-grooming shop and left him a bottle of Jamaican hot pepper sauce on which she wrote, "Fag Juice Burn Baby Burn,'' and that she also scrawled "Jonathan's Fag boyfriend Fag'' on a photo of a friend. "She is an extremely angry woman who is homophobic and is lashing out at me because I have learned I am gay,'' Plummer declared in a court filing last month. McMillan's attorney, Jill Hersh -- a divorce lawyer who has handled civil rights cases involving gay couples and their children -- says her client "is anything but homophobic.'' "However, she feels betrayed and disappointed ... that her husband is gay, '' Hersh said. "And anything you have seen in the pleadings emanates from how she is experiencing the end of her marriage, and it doesn't have to do with anything else.'' Hersh also disputes Plummer's contention that McMillan was seeking an annulment as a way to get him deported, as he alleges. In pressing her claim of fraud, however, McMillan told the court that Plummer waited to tell her he was gay until he knew his application for citizenship was going to be approved. Plummer says he understands that McMillan felt betrayed by his coming out. "But I was being truthful to myself, and didn't want to hurt her anymore,'' he said. On June 17, a Superior Court judge handed Plummer a minor victory -- ordering McMillan to pay him $2,000 a month in spousal support, plus $25,000 in attorney's fees -- until a full trial on the validity of the prenuptial agreement and the annulment request is heard in October. Chronicle columnists Phillip Matier and Andrew Ross appear Sundays, Mondays and Wednesdays. They can also be heard on KGO Radio on Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays. Phil Matier can be seen regularly on KRON 4 News, and also on Sunday night at 9:30 on his own show, "4 the Record." Got a tip? Call them at (415) 777-8815, or e-mail them at matierandross@sfchronicle.com. | ||
| Kola Moderator Username: Kola Post Number: 1771 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
GOD! My heart goes out to Terry. I am just SOOOOOO sorry to hear about this. What an evil, selfish thing this boy did to her--pretending to "love her" and to be straight. And he stole $62,000 from her! What a rotten bastard. I always thought he was ugly and bitch-acting anyway. I don't know why she let herself be swept away by that little fucker. Knowing "Jamaican resorts"--he was most likely a prostitute selling himself to rich White Men and White Women for YEARS before Terry arrived. These "Jamaica Studs" start as young as 14 working in the hotel resorts---usually servicing over the hill rich white women tourists who wouldn't DREAM of bringing one home. But Terry's lonely, gullible black-man loving ass. She was the perfect target to fall for a bunch of lies. I hope she roasts this motherfucker. She's got the brains, power and money to do it. I would. | ||
| Libralind2 "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Libralind2 Post Number: 153 Registered: 09-2004 Rating: N/A |
If he was the money grabbin, closet gay person depicted..well maybe not if..but you get my point, I dont understand why they were together this long, at least in terms of the money part of the equation to come "out" of the closet so to speak, this late in the marriage. Men who want your money dont wait years for it. In my experience they come after it very early on. "I dont have my wallet..can you get this I will give it back to you when we get home"..and of course..they never do. "My check was short..my money is tied up in stocks..my inheritance is tied up in court..etc etc" LiLi | ||
| Libralind2 "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Libralind2 Post Number: 154 Registered: 09-2004 Rating: N/A |
You know..RED FLAGS-LIGHT BLUBS FLASHING LIKE STUDIO 54. LiLi | ||
| Kola Moderator Username: Kola Post Number: 1776 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
Lili, in California---they have a LAW that if you live with someone 8 years or longer, you get HALF of everything they own. Also, because they signed a Prenup--it's better to stay YEARS and YEARS so as to degenerate the MERIT of the prenup. And to make it more convincing---he stayed EXTRA time. He's not stupid---and his original plan might even have been to PLAY THE ROLE...."forever".....and just enjoy being pampered by a fabulously wealthy older woman who ADORED and BRAGGED on him as though he were the second coming of Christ. And like many gay men---he probably really did grow to love Terry and they probably had GOBS of fun together and became very close. That happens with women and gay men. The difference is----this boy was laying the pipe like nobody's business and had her nose wide open. Like I said---he was probably a male prostitute at that Jamaican Resort, those places are crawling with tall, muscular big-dicked Jamaican boys....as he was when she first met him. And although there were some signs to me that he was gay---TERRY probably was lonely like any other woman and went on HIS WORD and HIS ACTIONS, putting her trust in him, because she wanted to find real love and thought that she had. He isn't claiming that Terry KNEW he was gay. Notice that. And also, how you do know that Terry---being a multi-millionaire and him having NOTHING----wasn't already paying for everything and lavashing him in a life of luxury from the get go. She obviously was---which I have nothing against. The only thing is that he didn't deserve it. LAST UP: Terry McMillan is a very sweet, down to earth, comical woman. I don't know why other black women fail to see how HUMILIATED and heartbroken she is----and it's probably because they're jealous of her wealth and success and are GLAD to see another sister fail. How anyone can take the side of that leech-hearted two faced bastard is beyond me. | ||
| Libralind2 "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Libralind2 Post Number: 156 Registered: 09-2004 Rating: N/A |
Im sure this is a complicated issue but I only feel for Terry..the "woman" in terms of her life being an open book with everyone reading it. LiLi | ||
| Moonsigns "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Moonsigns Post Number: 551 Registered: 07-2004 Rating: N/A |
"She is an extremely angry woman who is homophobic and is lashing out out me because I have learned I am gay."-J Plummer Ah. He's "learned" he's "gay"--Interesting. Classic BS. He's proably been BI since the jump but just wanted her money. I say, send him back to Jamaica with a one-way ticket. | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 3686 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
Kola, It's funny how women can ALWAYS figure out a way to feel sorry for each other. "I spent all our money because my self-esteem was low." "I slept with your bestfriend 'cause I was lonely." "I killed him because he didn't give me anything for Valentine's Day." Yeah...WHATEVER! Kola, I DOUBT your heart would be 'bleeding' like this if the sexes were switch here. It that were the case, you'd be rooting for the Jamacian hooker to clean dude OUT. | ||
| Kola Moderator Username: Kola Post Number: 1782 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
If that Jamican hooker was a LESBIAN who had fooled her husband into thinking she's straight-----then announced, "I'm gay" I'd be saying the same thing I am now. FUCK HER. ___________ Now let's be fair ABM. Let's say that Terry's "young stud" husband, after 13 years of marriage (or however long) announced that he was divorcing Terry because their relationship just isn't working out anymore and he thinks they should move on -----AND he feels that because she makes so many millions, he's entitled to some kind of compensation for being a STAY AT HOME hubby (as he has been) ........I be FOR HIM. And that's the truth. People who know me know that about me. | ||
| Kola Moderator Username: Kola Post Number: 1783 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
THIS is the down low! that everybody talks about! He DELIBERATELY posed as a straight man...claiming to love her, want to be her husband----HELL, he even signed a PRENUP (who wouldn't trust him?) And then years go by---and he ups and says, "The reason it's not working is because I'm GAY and I didn't know that at 20 when we first met. But I know it now...and I want you to take care of me for the rest of my life." IN CALIFORNIA---he can legally claim HALF of everything she owns, because they were married and LIVED TOGETHER longer than 8 years. Speaking of which--- I just realized that Thomas left me right before the 8 year mark was up. Well what do you know? I hadn't even thought about that. | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 3688 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
Kola, How do YOU know Terry didn't know from the giddy-up dude was sweet. Even you yourself said you got the booty-boy vibe from him. You don't think ANYONE within her inner circle observed the same and mentioned the possibility of THAT to her? Or better yet: How do you know Terri herself isn't homosexual and, thus, was willing to tolerate dude's gayness, provided it didn't become an hinderance/embarrassment to her? She certainly would NOT be the first (older) woman to pull THAT stunt. | ||
| Kola Moderator Username: Kola Post Number: 1787 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
We KNOW, because both parties have said in court records that "SHE" didn't know. He admits that he just now told her at Christmas 2004---after she began to get suspicious over his phone calls/correspondence with a male friend back in Jamaica. And back when they got married---I saw them together on a talk show talking---I didn't think for ONE MINUTE that he was gay. He seemed like a very mature, happy, lovestruck young man----crazy about Terry, it seemed on t.v. And she was bragging in print about how good he was fucking her----so I can totally understand how she fell for him and married him. He seemed like a nice black guy, very articulate and into Terry. I'm not rooting for Terry because this is a YOUNG GUY who got tired.....I'm rooting for Terry because this is the DOWN LOW in action. And it's WRONG, ABM. Especially when it's this methodical and drawn out. | ||
| Kola Moderator Username: Kola Post Number: 1788 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
Let me tell you something, ABM. I do not buy for a second that Terry McMillan is "gay". Just reading her books is all the info I need to know. | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 3692 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
Kola, Okay. Both say she didn't know. But he may not know that she knew. And it's, of course, in her utter interest to declare ignorance of that. But I'll assume everything you say about him is true. Still. You have a 'relationship' where a woman is older than a man by OVER 20 years! Forgive me, but THAT's got alarm bells all over it. And I don't know whether being or 'becoming' gay is grounds for denying someone some sort of divorce settlement. But if he doesn't get a die that wouldn't bother me one bit. | ||
| Kola Moderator Username: Kola Post Number: 1791 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
A lot WOMEN are now 20 years older than their Boy Toys, ABM. It's called WEALTH. Women now have financial wealth in great numbers---they get older and realize that they only want one thing from a man really---to be fucked good and shown attention. They find and install a willing Boy Toy. I wish I wasn't so intelligent, so that I could do it. But I need a PROFESSOR more than a muscle boy who dick-whips me. And there are SOME Professors who can do both. I like smart guys--preferrably black ones---but I give up on black men, to be honest. They generally only become nice guys after they can't fuck anymore. Just being honest. I may have to end up alone. | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 3694 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
Kola, FEW wealthy 40-something women marry 20-something men. Yeah. They f@#$ them. But they DON'T marry them. Why? Because they know what the deal is. They know the 'boy' is good for what you hired him for. And little more. And when you try to pretend otherwise, you find out they don't really even like girls. In fact, part of the reason why they're such great Boy Toys is they're GREAT at pretending. Kola. You remind me of A LOT of Black women. You b*+$%/moan about how godawful the selection of Black men there is. You concoct any/ever reason to reject men. Then get PISSED when that microscopic few whom you may be interested in are no longer interested in you. Maybe you REALLY should give that lesbian thing a second thought. | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 3696 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
You wish! HAHAHA!!! | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 1250 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
Unless this is all bull poor Terry wasn't thinking when she walked into this one-- Very sad. | ||
| Yvettep "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 528 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: N/A |
You wish! ??? | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 3701 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
'Vette, Kola's deleted the post that inspired that comment. | ||
| Kola Moderator Username: Kola Post Number: 1798 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
 twinkle, twinkle, twinkle | ||
| Yvettep "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 530 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: N/A |
Kola's deleted the post that inspired that comment. No fair! No teasing! If you two can't share with the whole class...then perhaps a private "Kolabm" email is in order. LOL | ||
| Kola Moderator Username: Kola Post Number: 1799 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
Yvette, I had written: fuck you, too, ABM But upon reading it back to myself, decided it was too harsh and that I hadn't meant to say that. Some things that I would say out of my mouth in person in a soft, comical way-----look totally different in "writing". I didn't want ABM to take the words in a way that I hadn't meant them. | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 3703 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
Just like a girl. When the game get's ruff, she screams, grabs her jacks and run home. | ||
| Kola Moderator Username: Kola Post Number: 1801 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
Kin you READ, nigga? GOLLY!!!!! | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 3706 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
Kola, I can read fine...what's before me. But your "1:12" post wasn't visible to me when I posted my "1:13". And your prior post didn't bother me in the least bit... Niggete! HAHAHA!!! | ||
| Kola Moderator Username: Kola Post Number: 1802 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
That's QUEEN Niggete to you, boy. | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 3708 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
And I got your "boy" right HERE, "QUEEN Niggete! | ||
| Kola Moderator Username: Kola Post Number: 1804 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
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| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 3710 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
Kola, Is that THOMAS I see behind you in the background? Is THAT why you're grinning with your eyes closed. Seriously. That's a pretty picture, Kola. It's beautiful!  | ||
| Kola Moderator Username: Kola Post Number: 1806 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
No, that's NOT Thomas behind me---I don't think anybody was there. I'm grinning because the photographer is "claiming" that I look beautiful in the doorway. I felt "FAT" and he was saying, "You're beautiful". But now that you said that it's a pretty picture, ABM--I may have it AirBrushed and use it in media releases. | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 3714 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
Kola, It's very nice. You appear to be in happy, calm, slightly giddy contemplation. |
