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Kola
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Username: Kola
Post Number: 1426
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 08:09 pm: | 
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Hi everyone.
A few weeks ago, I said that I'm not a Kerry Washington fan...
...but now I'm URGING YOU to please go out and support the film "The Fantastic Four".
WHY?
BECAUSE....
It's directed by a BLACK MAN, Tim Story
....and if the film is a HIT, then
he will get to direct/produce other films.
Of course, we really need Black filmmakers
--although I don't know much about Mr. Story.
I just think we should ALWAYS support black
Directors/Producers....because the POWER we
have behind the camera is FAR MORE important
the faces we have in front of it. At least
for now.
AND...
I'm warming to Kerry Washington. Barely.
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Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 3318
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 10:50 pm: |
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Kola,
Good post!
Being a comic nerd myself, I'm EXTREMELY excited to see Tim get the gig.
And you're right, the director/producer are much more powerful than the actor. In fact, you could argue the only real artists in the cinema are the directors and screenplay writers.
And Blacks have a pretty strong directorial track record. “Training Day”, “SWAT”, “Brown Sugar” and “The Italian Job” are but a few recent films directed by Blacks that were both skillfully directed and VERY lucrative.
Here’s a pic of Tim:
(Eat your heart out Chris!) |
Libralind2
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Username: Libralind2
Post Number: 123
Registered: 09-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 11:44 pm: |
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I love these type movies. I all ready am in love with this film based on the trailers I viewed
LiLi |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 3325
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 09:47 am: |
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Funny.
When I was kid reading Superman, Batman, The X-Men, Spider-man, The Fantastic Four and The Hulk comics +30 years ago, I and couple of my friends were sort of looked down upon as being geeks. So I find it ironic that films based on those characterizations are scoring Hollywood's biggest box office returns.
"Revenge of the Nerds" indeed. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 1207
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 02:43 pm: |
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Abm:
There are people who can say the same thing about crack cocaine.
You knew I was going to try and pee pee on your parade, didn't you? |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 3334
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 02:51 pm: |
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Chris: "You knew I was going to try and pee pee on your parade, didn't you?"
ABM: Yeah. If you look beyond the frilly floats, cheesy banners and tone-deaf band, you can always spot some drunk ol' dude taking a whiz while he think ain't nobody lookin'. |
Yvettep
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Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 444
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 04:09 pm: |
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ABM, Chris: I don't get it...Private joke?
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Yvettep
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Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 445
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 04:11 pm: |
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OK, if one of you will volunteer to babysit two rambunctious five year olds, me and the mister can go see this film! We pay pretty good, plus all the pizza you can eat!
(We had to get rid of our former babysitter...she got too "boy crazy" as reported to us by our daughters when we returned home: "She talked to her BOYFRIEND on her CELL phone almost the WHOLE time, Mommy...) |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 3340
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 04:11 pm: |
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'Vette,
Don't worry. It's one of those nerdboy guy things.
You might not understand. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 3341
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 04:15 pm: |
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'Vette,
Well. I would loan my daughter to you. But she's doing the cellphone something crazy too.
("Listen to me: You do NOT have a boyfried! Understand? If I see some strange kid creepin' around here at night, I'm shootin' first and callin' the coroner later. You git me!") |
Yvettep
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Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 447
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 04:18 pm: |
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hahahaha!!! |
roXie
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 07:34 pm: |
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I heard that the thing's blind girlfriend is played by a black woman. And Do you know who plays The Thing? He looks like a black guy under that make-up. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 3351
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 07:49 pm: |
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roXie,
Naw. The Thing's being portrayed by White actor Michael Chiklis. He's the ruff, @$$kickin' lead character of Fox's "The Shield".
I think its GREAT Kerry Washington is portraying "Alicia Masters". The blind "Alicia Master" character was an example of how remarkably real/prospective Marvel's founders Stan Lee and Jack Kirby were in their storytelling and characterizations. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 1213
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 01:12 pm: |
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Yvette:
It's a Black Thang!
Maybe but this is how it started. First let me say that I totally admit that I was at one time a comic book collector--strongest years 1961-68. I still read them from time to time but mostly I read books about comics--the creators, the business practices, the publishing houses etc.
Anyway what started my jihad was this one time ABM posted a missive urging all black mothers to give their sons subscriptions to popular comic books to encourage them to read.
Like many a reformed sinner--such as dry drunks etc--I was outraged by such advice. My position is that parents have the job of urging their kids to do the dull, good stuff--read the classics and stuff. That they shouldn't urge kids to read comics--and anyway they will read them without such urging--just like you don't urge your kids to eat candy, etc.
I cannot convince the brotha that in fact his method would induce kids NOT to read comix--that they are an outlaw, rebellious art form and that if they were approved by the parents they wouldn't read them. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 3362
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 01:30 pm: |
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'Vette,
HAHA!
What Chris CONVENIENTLY omits from this issue is our kids, especially our boys, are NOT reading ANYTHING.
Plain and simple.
My advocacy of comic book reading is just a way spur some desire of recreational reading amongst our young that could broaden into other, more worthwhile endeavors.
I there were a significant number of Black youths reading "Invisible Man" and "Beloved", I'd see little need to advocate "Spider-man" and "The Hulk".
Chris,
INTERESTING analysis. One, btw, you had not mentioned before.
But, okay, I'll assume you are correct, that to some degree this "outlaw" inclination will hold true. I'll repeat my original, primary point: I just want them to read SOMETHING...ANYTHING!
So, if they rebel against Marvel via reading Manga, I'd be cool with that too. So long as they're READING.
Also, I mentioned before that I used to read(and write) X-rated stories too as a kid. And it was my bestfriend's adult AUNT who turned us on to them. So, I believe, if you're presented with something you're interested in, you'll consume it, regardless of who introduced it to you...ESPECIALLY if it has really 'cool' pictures. |
Kola
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Username: Kola
Post Number: 1471
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 01:46 pm: |
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I've never "regularly" read comic books.
But the few times I have---I thought they were WONDERFUL things to read. In the same vein as a well written "soap opera"--extraordinarily brilliant playwrights like Harding Lemay, Agnes Nixon and Pat Falken Smith have written daytime soap operas.
My favorite comic is "SPAWN".
I would love my sons to read comic books. I think they turn on the mind-switch and prepare you to read other things.
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Yvettep
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Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 451
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 01:46 pm: |
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**clearing throat**
uhmmm...what was up with your "best friend's adult aunt," ABM? |
Yvettep
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Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 452
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 01:53 pm: |
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Chris, I can understand where you're coming from. There's some research to support that children who are externally reinforced for things they already enjoy, come to enjoy them less...
I can also, though, see the point in encouraging any reading so long as it is reading...
I don't know.
I've said before I am married to a comic book guy. Since we've been married I think I have seen every movie to come out based on a comic. I've seen every episode of all the Star Trek series. In fact, there's no better way for me to incur the wrath of my mister than to forget some obscure (I think) plotline from a previous issue of ST...
But w/my husband, he was already a reader--he devoured the comics, and also the second hand library and school books his mother brought home for him.
Do you both think these movies will lead more kids--especially Black boys--to find these comics? What about video games leading to reading? Does the joy of Halo come from gameplay or from the story/themes? |
Yvettep
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Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 453
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 01:54 pm: |
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ABM, by the above I mean why was this adult giving you guys porn????
(Not disparaging her...just wondrin...) |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 3366
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 02:10 pm: |
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Kola,
Comics really are 'stilled' soap operas.
They're colorful, overly dramatic, hammy, episodic, etc.
But they're better than soaps because as predictable and fluffy as they can be they still require some READING.
'Vette,
The recent Spider-man and X-Men movies have boosted comic sales/reading. I don't know what % of the additional readership is comprised of AA male. But SOME of it must be, don't you think?
I think his aunt did what she did in part because she wanted to be sure we geeky comic book boys would like girls. Which, from my vantage point, was NEVER in doubt. But, hey, I appreciate her motivation, if not methodology.
And, okay, chick was kinda freaky and flirty like that. She was lively, vivacious. The brothahs know what I mean. She's kinda older sistah that all the young bucks in the neighborhood were just DYIN' to nail (kinda reminds me of Kola...Hehe!).
Yeah. She'd probably get arrested for that stuff these days. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 3367
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 02:13 pm: |
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'Vette,
EVERY brothah I know who has a college degree was/is a rabid comic book fan.
Coincidence? Consequence?
You be the judge. |
Yvettep
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Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 456
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 02:33 pm: |
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chick was kinda freaky and flirty like that
LOL! Oh, OK! Now that I tink of it, I went thru a phase as a college student when some young preteen guys had crushes on me and I didn't discourage this and didn't complain.
(...Tho, I also didn't give them porn LOL) |
Yvettep
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Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 457
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 02:38 pm: |
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EVERY brothah I know who has a college degree was/is a rabid comic book fan. Coincidence? Consequence?
Good point.
Kinda O/T: Why do all the comic book babes have skinny skinny waists and huge bosoms? I think that has a lot to do with why...maturing young men enjoy reading them.
Also, there's a wonderful line in the original "Courtship of Eddies Father" where the Ron Howard character is explaining to his father why his date isn't a "good" woman. He says something like "In the comic books the good ladies all have large eyes and small bosoms, and the bad women all have big bosoms and little eyes."
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Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 3373
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 02:43 pm: |
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'Vette: " I went thru a phase as a college student when some young preteen guys had crushes on me and I didn't discourage this and didn't complain."
ABM: You might be sickenly delighted by how you were featured in their many wetdreams and self-relief sessions.
'Vette: "(...Tho, I also didn't give them porn LOL)"
ABM: Yeah. But you seem pretty thoughtful. So I'm sure you would have it you had thought about it. Hehe! |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 3374
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 02:49 pm: |
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'Vette: "Why do all the comic book babes have skinny skinny waists and huge bosoms?"
ABM: That's a 'rhetorical question'? Right?
Seriously. I rarely pay much attention to the figures of comic book heroines. I doubt Eddie's comic book heroine formula still applies, though. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 1218
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 02:46 pm: |
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Abm:
Our kids are reading nothing? Nonsense! |
Libralind2
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Username: Libralind2
Post Number: 128
Registered: 09-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 08:53 pm: |
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I am SICK I dont have my comics from the 50's. I had every first edition of whatever...WHO KNEW.
LiLi muttering..My Barbie..::sigh:: |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 3458
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 18, 2005 - 08:04 am: |
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Chris,
Scanning Vibe/Source/XXL magazines (which have more glossy pictures and advertisements than text articles) and video game packaging don't count as reading. |
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