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Kola
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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 06:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The BLACK book market is at a standstill....
not growing....because black males
across the board do not read
books in the vast, swollen
numbers that black women do.

WHICH brings us to the
MYSTERY regarding my
own recent novel
"Flesh and the Devil"
(and perhaps you can
help our marketing
people).


Flesh


The strange thing about "Flesh and the Devil" is that it's actually more popular with...BLACK MALE READERS....than with BLACK female readers, although both groups seem to really love
the book.

"Flesh and the Devil".....is Literary Historical Fiction.....has now sold 3,086 copies, has gotten great feedback responses from all audiences---but----the actual BUYERS seem to be 62% Black Male, 36% Black Female, 2% Other-----which is shocking.

And for months, we've been trying to figure out why that is.

The book is a Black historical love story featuring both a MALE and FEMALE lead who get equal time....the book is glamourous, highly exotic and has a strong racial content.

NUDITY FACTOR:

Some people might want to joke that it's because the author is topless on the back of the book-----but let's please arrest that joke, because ALL OTHER BOOKS by Kola Boof are purchased by 74% Black Women readers and feature the same topless jackets.

ABM...a black man here has raved about the book

Crystal...a black woman here has raved about the book

BUT in my own life, as I get emails and letter responses and feedback on the book.....BLACK MALES overwhelming are always more excited about the book---they ALWAYS pass it to others to read---they are extremely spirited about the book.

I find myself very surprised (being a black feminist author) that Black MEN are the ones so moved and passionate about the book.


People have been asking me: "How did you do that?"

And the answer is: "I don't have a clue."



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Kola
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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 06:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What is it that black men want to read?

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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 07:00 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Disclaimer: This is a generalization: So don't come at me with all kinds of nonsense.

I find that black gay men read more fiction and non-fiction whereas hetero men read more non-fiction and little fiction.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 07:08 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

There's an earnestness about your writing I find enthralling. It's VERY sensual, sexy. But more than just in a 'boning' sense.

It's provocative and confrontational. Yet very nurturing and loving.

You awaken that righteous whisper within Black men we long to hear.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 07:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

Reading is by its very nature a somewhat passive, if not feminine, exploit. And, to do it effectively, requires literally 1,000's hours of dedication.

Conversely, Black men are, often, morbidly macho. And aren't receiving the foundational preparation to be skilled readers.

Perhaps the ONLY reason I became a competent reader/writer was because in my formulative years, I got turned on to comic books and sex literature. I evolved (I guess) from that foundation.

Had that not happened, we probably wouldn't be talking.

It you want men to read, you have to interest BOYS in reading. And doing such might require using literary lures that we might otherwise HARDLY label as such.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 07:20 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have two brothers, one doesn't/rarely reads at all unless it's a manual and the other reads skeptics literature and manuals...my father, a business man, only reads the newspaper...if I see any other of my black male friends reading fiction especially, they're gay. The only time I find a heterosexual man reading fiction is if it's from the classics, Wright, Hughes, Johnson, etc. Otherwise, almost always it's non-fiction.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 07:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jackie...

I have ALWAYS seen "exactly" what you describe, too. LOL

But the industry is claiming that we can't HIKE the black readership now unless the men start reading.

I think we need more BLACK "comic books", "superheroes", "Sci-fi" and BLACK MALE-Driven "erotica" (having sex with women of other races) to get black men to really increase their readership outside what you describe.

White men generally tend to read a A LOT of "comic", "superhero", "Sci-Fi", "BOURNE IDENTITY" James Bond type stuff.

We don't have a BLACK James Bond in literature.



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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 07:26 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ABM wrote:

Conversely, Black men are, often, morbidly macho. And aren't receiving the foundational preparation to be skilled readers.

Perhaps the ONLY reason I became a competent reader/writer was because in my formulative years, I got turned on to comic books and sex literature. I evolved (I guess) from that foundation.

__________


I think this is SOOOO TRUE.

Because although I write literature----it was Jackie Sussann's potboiler "Valley of the Dolls" (which I read 10 times) that got me addicted to READING and made me want to tell my own story.

And 25 years later---I STILL love "Valley of the Dolls" and wish I could write a trashy book that good...and have tried....and FAILED.

All my trash books are in the drawer. The literature comes out good, though. LOL

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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 07:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola, that's a good question. Does it have anything to do with society ? I would have to agree with ABM regarding reading in general and how it's perceived. Is it true that black men in prison read more ?
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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 07:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes. BLACK MEN in PRISON really do read a lot of books, an my book "Flesh" has sold 9 copies to the NORTH CAROLINA men's prison (although the cover isn't allowed)....but none to women.

In Detroit, I have a women's prison that bought 7 copies of "Long Train", 2 "Flesh" and 14 "Nile River Woman".

But black men read A LOT in prison, apparently and in certain cities---Wash. D.C., Philly, North Carolina, Buffalo, Deep South----I have a lot of Incarcerated men who love "Flesh".

________

Now funny note, Jackie:

In California my books are VERY popular with BLACK WOMEN

....NOT black men.

But back east, the reverse.

__________


And Jackie thank you for the Hook Up for the book signing in Long Beach.

As soon as I'm not sick, I will try to schedule.




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Do white men read a lot of books?? Come on. We can't judge men and women by the same yard stick. It's like asking why women don't watch more football. Men and women are different; Can you say "Venus" and "Mars"? The male and female brains are wired differently. Women are fine-tuned; men are blunt. If a man doesn't cultivate a love for books early on, it's not likely he is going to suddenly become a book worm. You have to also consider that in order to be a reader, you have to know how to read. A lot of men have poor reading skills and reading is a chore.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 10:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ladies,

When I turned 12, my best friend’s aunt started giving us girlie mags (by the DOZENS). I think it was because she thought it was time for us to become visually acquainted with what will be the great pain/pleasure of every (straight) male’s existence.

Either that, or she was trying to preempt our becoming gay.

HAHA!

‘Course, initially, we weren’t doing much ‘reading’ with the books. But after the rush of p-funk began to wane from our impressionable minds, we started to – Ripley’s Believe It or Not - READ the sleazy sex stories.

We even then started to WRITE some of our own stories including as our pliable, buxom vixens certain high school chicks who otherwise wouldn't give us the time of day.

(There's not payback quite like writing.)

Yeah. Our stories were awful. But at least we were writing via our own volition.


And I still read some of my favorite comic book characters. I often find the writing to be quite invigorating.

Plus they have a moral code (e.g., honesty, teamwork, perseverance, sacrifice, etc.) that many of our young might benefit from observing.

(Chris - who remains obsessed with the crotches of superheroes - will disagree.)


Of course convicts often read more than other brothahs.

What the h*ll ELSE do they have to do?

A truer test of a man’s literary/scholarly interests is when he’s free to play Nintendo, dangerously race his new Ninja motorcycle along the interstate highways and chase loose p@$$% on Friday nite.

When he can do THAT and still read the latest Wideman and Morrison books, THEN he’s doing something.


PS: My best friend has probably every comic book he’s bought since the Nixon Administration (Plus I think the SOB’s swiped a few of mine to boot.). We figure his collection is worth in the low 6-figures.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 10:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique,

Okay.

But are you arguing that White men do NOT on average read more than Black men?

If so, you've haven't paid attention to the last +500 years.
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I'm saying that those Joe-6-packs out there rooting for their sports teams and cheering on Bruce Springsteen ain't doin no more reading than the brothas in the street. White men didn't acquire their powers from reading a lot of books, they acquired it by being ruthless cut-throats who had killer instincts.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 11:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique,

Indeed. And they LEARNED A LOT of those "ruthless cut-throats" tactics in BOOKS.

Don't believe me: Re-read your Homer, Machiavelli, Shakespeare, Chekhov, Tolstoy and Hemingway.
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Really? Or were the books an example of art imitating life???
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Cynique,

Both. Life becomes Art and which in turn becomes Life.

I know people who've graduated from West Point and Annapolis. The nation's primary warrior academies.

They cite that perhaps the most important thing they learn were the Classics. It is THERE where one truly learns the science, discourse, policies and practices of warfare.
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I can only speak for myself,but I read on a very regular basis.That's generally how I spend my evenings.Always has been.Although I must admit that I've never read one of your books,Kola.I do need to work a couple in,I guess.Never been a huge historical fiction fan.I got about nine pages into Winds of War and then my wife poked me and said that I was snoring too loud.I think that a lot more black men read than the ones willing to admit it.As has been stated,it doesn't seem to be viewed as being very manly.Real men don't read I guess.Real stupid men,that is.Books have been far more than just a source of information to me.They present whole new ways of looking at things if one keeps an open mind.I got a very simple but amazingly useful principle from an old science fiction book by Isaac Asimov in the sixties (fifties?seventies?) that has enabled me to accurately predict the results of profesional football games weeks in advance.:-)Books are what separate people from monkeys.A man that doesn't read might as well go ahead and start swinging from the tree branches,in my opinion.
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Readers are found in walks of life. There are people who are voracious readers and who never achieve great success, and then there are those who never read and who end up top of the heap. The bottom line is, you're either a reader or you're not a reader, and I think an affinity for reading is a part of a person's core personality. I've always felt that people who have a natural curiosity were predisposed to be readers.
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Excuse me,

THUMPER---I apologize to you if you aren't gay or said that you weren't. I could have sworn you had, and I'm sure others have thought the same thing.

I really WAS NOT trying to start a fight.

God bless and I apologize for giving you a title that's not yours.





P.S.

Drop by and get some pussy on your OFF DAYS, my strong mean WELL READ Black King. I've always loved and praised you.





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I Have removed the offending comments, Thumper.


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Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 01:30 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

CLARIFICATION:

My sons both READ a lot of books...but of course, their mother's an author.

Their father, A BLACK MAN, is not gay and he reads quite a bit....but as JACKIE and I Said.....his main taste is NON-Fiction.

Thomas likes to read Steven Barnes, Brandon Massey and Octavia Butler----clearly SciFi stuff----when he DOES read fiction.

He hates my books.

I certainly am surrounded by STRAIGHT MEN who read a lot of books---most every man I know.

But that was not the case BEFORE I was an author.

And I still agree with JACKIE that most of the Black Men's reading habits are for NON-FICTION with the "gay" black men really loving to read FICTION on a more regular basis.

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Kola,

I enjoy reading fiction. But I admit A LOT of it's quite verbose for my tastes.

Once the book exceeds 250 pages, I will almost involuntarily, look for something 'e

I wonder if other men feel the same. If so, perhaps THAT explains the lack of masculine interest,
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Researchers at Queen Mary University, London, found that men are not checking out about women - their books. According to "The Observer", the study into gender differences in reading habits found that while women read the works of both sexes, men generally stick to books written by men. The researchers don't tell us why.
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This might be relevant to this discussion:

"Walter Mosley: A Slave's Flight to Freedom in '47'"
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4694437

Karen Grigsby Bates talks with writer Walter Mosley about his newest book, 47. It's written for young adults, and mixes science fiction and magical realism to tell the story of a young slave's fight for freedom.
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Anunaki,

Here are some of my suppositions pertaining to your last post.

I think men and women often read for entirely different reasons, thus their choice in topic/author will differ.

When men read (like when they shop), they usually have a clearly defined purpose/objective mind. That doesn't mean such is especially ennobled (e.g., sports, comics, etc.). But we hope to be informed/entertained in some expected way.

Women, however, often read more for the sheer pleasure of such (again, like when they shop). That's not to say women aren't looking for information/entertainment. But they also read because they seem to have a more innate appreciation for the act of reading in of itself.

It's as if they exact some genuine physical, mental, emotional and spiritual nourishment/comfort from the reading process that men don't as frequently enjoy.

That, I believe is why women read more in general and are more apt to read what a man writes than will a man read what women write.

Because, let's face it: Men are not as interested in the issues - romance, personal styling, gurlfren, dating, children, assorted 'emotional' topic, etc. that women are more apt to write about.

But women will read things written by men to help them achieve some desired state (e.g., "Introduction to Literature", "Think & Grow Rich", etc.) or to better understand/anticipate the motivation/behavior of men (e.g., "How to Love a Black Man, "He's Just Not Into You", etc.)


And yes: Because men often in general devalue the contributions of women, they're less likely to appreciate what women...write.
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Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 12:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

All:

The black men who read read non fiction. I write fiction and I primarily read nonfiction.

I had a conversation with a guy who read my novel A Vampyre Blues and enjoyed it. But he said when he read he wanted to learn something.

He wanted non fiction. Histories, biographies, self help, etc.

Though some would have us believe that white men who read fiction for pleasure are reading Shakespeare, Joyce and Henry James they are reading detective novels, porn, and sci fi.

Give them some escapist literature where they are killing, shooting and screwing and you can get them.

Women's issues? Haw!
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Chris: "I write fiction and I primarily read nonfiction."
ABM: Have you considered whether/how this inclination 'informs' your "fiction"?
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I love to read all kinds of books. As i look at my bookshelf i see books written by kafka, Dostoyevsky, Baldwin, Morrison, Iris Chang,Maya Angelou...And on subjects as diverse as Calculus and The Second Intifada. Black men may not read as many books as black women,but what about other types of print? My brother does not read many books but he has subscriptions to a lot of magazines.One of my favorite books of all times is The Outsider,by Richard Wright. Until I read Wright's book I had never seen a black protagonist written with so much depth. I think reading has a lot to do with education level too. I'm working on a dual mathematics/mechanical engineering degree.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 08:47 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"The Outsider" is also one of my favorite books.

I love everything by Richard Wright, I feel that "BLACK BOY" should be required reading for ALL black children.

But "The Outsider" is one of the greatest novels ever written in my opinion. I loved it.

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Kola,

Are you following me? lol. Wright was an outstandng writer. BTW Meshell Ndegeocello's new album is out today, in the U.S. anyway. It's very good despite the fact that she doesn't do any vocals on the album.Do you like Dostoyevsky?
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I've never read Dostoyevsky. What's he like?

I would not buy a CD by Meshell with no vocals. That would piss me off. I have about 4 of her CDs and I love her.

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The album impresses without her vocals,beleive me.
Dostoyevsky, to me, writes about the human condition,his characters are very well developed... I could go on and on about him. But you have to try him out to really find out what he's like.
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Is this the same Black man that asked if Kola sucked Thomas's dick in the other thread ? Must have a split personality or something....
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I've seen Meshell perform live on several occasions and she is absolutely amazing !! She always had lively and involved back up singers too !
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Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 09:39 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this the same Black man that asked if Kola sucked Thomas's dick in the other thread ? Must have a split personality or something....

Why do I have to have a split personality? She aired all her business, i just elaborated on it. What, I can't like science and use vulgarities too?
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Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 09:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Now, Radiationx----you're a MAN right?

I just want to know.

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I sure am. why would you ask that?
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Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 10:03 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I asked.....because we certainly need more MALE board members.

It's mostly women who post here.


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Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 10:05 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

have I stumbled into an abode of lonely educated females?
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Not quite.

By a long shot.

But I'll let ABM, the resident ROOSTER of this hen house fill you in.


One thing, though---that we don't tolerate---are "Harems" and men's bullshit.

I'm assuming since you like Meshell, that you must have SOME redeeming qualities. Not any ordinary guy can get into her.




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Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 10:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No problem. But why wouldn't men want to post here?
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what do you mean by a "Harems"?
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Oh and RadiationX----I'm a Half-Arab woman from the Sudan, what you'd call a Pagan...and I have no formal education whatsoever. I was raised by Black Americans.

I learned what I know by living in the library, which is what one does when one is struggling to learn English...and then later, as a model-actress, I learned by being a whore to a lot of powerful, upwardly mobile men and by learning to LISTEN to what's inside of what people say.

I like myself an awful lot, I'm a novelist and poet, I'm a professional cook and I enjoy being a mother.

Welcome to the KOOL ROOM.



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Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 10:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Who said that men don't like to post here?

Men just don't know that we're here----and in a way, we like it like that.

I just brought up the issue of "harems", because there's a rather arrogant black man who's been filling up my email box with messages about how black women of the future are going to have to learn to accept "Sharing a man" and being part of a "harem". He says that he wants me to be in his harem.

He's a reasonably well known celebrity who's fucking with me.

I didn't know if you were him or not. So just in case.

tima usrah.

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Don't be cheeky Sis. Your accomplishments are legion.
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No i'm not a celebrity. I'm just a regular guy from Florida.
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Cheeky?

What does that mean? Are you talking about my ass already?


My accomplishments are legion? Explain.


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I don't even know what you look like, why would I be talking about your ass?...Probably flat anyway.lol.

You are a poet,novelist,and a cook by your own admission.Thus the legion comment.

cheeky= British idiom
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Yeah! :-)

Kola Boof has a flat ass.




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Well, there's one thing I can say for you, RAD...you don't mind me calling you Rad do you?

Anyway.

That one thing is.

I'm amused by our little conversation. Especially since no one else has been posting for the last few hours.



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What does indiom mean?

ABM hasn't taught me that word yet.


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I'm pleased that i ammuse you, you being the powerful woman that you are and all. lol.
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What does indiom mean?

ABM hasn't taught me that word yet.

Please don't be silly.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 10:40 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

you being the powerful woman that you are and all

laughing my ass off

I'm not powerful--so now who's being silly!

I'm a black woman living in America.

Far, far away from the Pimp Slap you've probably got poised for me in Florida. Old chum. :-)

Tell us, RAD.

How old are you?



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why is my age important? BTW i just saw the topless picture of you. you have a lot of confidence, or does your lack of inhibition stem from your culture?

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the topless picture of me?

you only saw one?

RAD, my story is so involved that you would have to search my name at GOOGLE. I just can't get into explaining anymore.

But I'm assuming that I'm about 38 years old---I really don't know to be honest.

And, of course, your age ISN'T important. I just wondered, so as to get an idea of your generation.

peace, love and welcome



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early 30's
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Cool.

We'll look forward to seeing you around.

Bye for now.



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Damn, you do have a history.ttyl.
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Jackie,

Exactly what kind of “performance” of Meshell did you observe?

And did she invite any of the audience unto the stage to 'perform' with her?

Got any of it on tape?

HEHEHE!


Radiationx,

Don’t mind them, playah.

You know how chicks are. They figure jes cause a brothah can simultaneously walk and crew gum that means he can’t get ill with a chick when she’s got it comin’.


Kola,

Meshell pissed off local critics/fans here via refusing to sing. She’d better watch herself.

Yes. She is, for this time, a uniquely talented and skilled artist.

But that earthy lesbian esthetic aura she’s effectively worked won’t save her @$$ from pissed off fans who feel they’ve been jobbed.

Kola (Nut). Stop teasing the newbie.

You know better than I do that “idiom” refers to the unique language/speech of a particular place/time.

Kola: “I'm assuming since you like Meshell, that you must have SOME redeeming qualities. Not any ordinary guy can get into her.
ABM: Funny. But I thought part of Meshell’s unique charms is she’s expressly against any “guy” attempting to “get into her”. Hehehe!
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Don't try to tell any of these folks that Meshell's newest is crap: http://www.freemyheart.com/

BTW, I find it interesting that the US-release album cover doesn't have the Arabic script artwork that the French one did...hmmmm
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All I've been listening to is the new Me'shell album. The album is great!! I admit that i miss her social commentary,but we all need to grow.

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