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Chrishayden
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Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 04:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Michael Jackson, Bill Cosby, Bobby Brown, Whitney Houston, L'il Kim, Flava Flave, Dave Chappelle, OJ and on and on and on.

It seems like Black folks can't handle doing good--

But maybe they ain't doing so good. The above quote is a paraphrase of a remark that Mickey Rooney made once--I think it was after John Belushi OD'd.

It was funny to me because the Mick was married 8 times, drank his way through several fortunes, wrecked his career, and then, at the age where he couldn't do anything no more got on his high horse.

The fact that he, onetime the biggest star in the world and Belushi, and Jean Harlow Marilyn Monroe, Kurt Cobain and on and on and on crashed and burned too proves it ain't a black thang.

A local rapper who has gone natural was only drinking soda water when he left here. Last time he was here he was slugging Crown Royal out of the bottle. And this is a guy with a successful career. So much for fame.
I think it is due to the unnatural nature of celebrity, the living in glass bowls, the up and down nature of it, the pressures--I think it is a rare person that does not flake out under it all.

I remember reading somewhere that white folks who worked behind the scenes in the entertainment business went to great lengths to keep their kids out of it because they know the truth behind the glitz. I remember this story of an Italian guy who had a singing group whose Uncle, a Mafia capo who was in the record business,torpedoed his show biz career for the same reason.

They know what they are doing to those hapless chumps out there on stage.

Your thoughts, please.
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Cynnique
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Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 07:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

With some of the stars, it's a matter of their success being "too much, too soon." Among the overnight successes, it's often about self-doubt. They worry that they aren't worthy of all of the adulation and riches suddenly being heaped upon them, - which reportedly was the problem with Kurt Cobain. Show biz abounds with fragile, insecure, egotistical performers who crave and need the approval of their audiences, people who live in constant fear of losing their popularity. Fame and fortune spawn pressure and frustration. Unless, of course, you're the oblivious Paris Hilton.
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Abm
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Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 02:26 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chris,

I also believe some of what's occurring is many of these performers lack the business acumen and organizational skills to adequately manage/control their affairs. Thus, when the money/attention is ratched up, they're being overwhelmed by matters they're ill-suited to manage. And they are drowing out their sorrows via excessive reverie.

If Blacks suffer disproportionally, that is likely as due to their having less access to effective necessary management/control resources than it is some inherent weakness.

This seems to be abundantly clear within the reports of Dave Chapelle's recent troubles.

He's obviously a talented performer. But I get the impression he is a fresh water fish who has suddenly been made to navigates the currents of an ocean.
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Mahoganyanais
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Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 02:30 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And they are drowing out their sorrows via excessive reverie.

Yeah, and if excessive reverie doesn't do them in, excessive revelry sure will.

No need to thank me, ABM.

Signed,
Your Friendly Neighborhood Eli
('sides, you started it with the egghead jokes; don't think I forgot)
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Abm
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Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 02:31 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chris,

And you are right that senior entertainment officials often steer their children away from the talent end of their business. Because one typically has a better chance to have a longer, more happy/product career/life from 'behind' the camera than he/she has in 'front' of it.
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Abm
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Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 02:37 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mah,

HAHA! Touché.

("Just can't keep those 'reverie' and 'revelry' straight.")

I thank you. My grade grade teacher thanks you. :-)

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