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Mahoganyanais
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Post Number: 488
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 08:58 am: | 
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from EURWeb.com:
"...Oprah later asked [Tom] Cruise about his adopted bi-racial son he shares with actress Nicole Kidman. The TV mogul wanted to know if the issue of his race was ever talked about in the household.
'We’re from the human race, human kind,' he clarified. 'I mean, what’s there to talk about? He’s my son. Listen, that’s just how I feel about it. He’s my son. I’ve never thought about color, race, I just have not thought about that.'"
Too bad his son won't have that luxury...
Talk about sending one's child out to battle unarmed. But sadly, I'm not surprised. |
Yvettep
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Post Number: 333
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 09:14 am: |
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WOW! I missed this, Mah.
Yeah, I remember a conversation--probably on Oprah, now that I think about it--featuring Mariah Carey and her mother. Her mother said when she and her then-husband were talking about having children, she said to him something along the lines of "we really have to think of this and talk about this because our children might face discrimination, racial bias." And she reported that he said something along the lines of, "Well YOU have to think about that; ANY child I have--with ANYONE--would have to face those things..."
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Babygirl
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Post Number: 42
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Mah:Too bad his son won't have that luxury...
Talk about sending one's child out to battle unarmed.
Babygirl: I found that interview interesting but I also walked away with the impression that his child WILL have that luxury. By virtue of his adopted parent's fame and fortune, I don't see him ever having to face those issues to the same degree another black child will have to face them, if at all. I imagine with that level of financial security and seclusion that young man will never have to the face the black and white of life because the wealth of daddy's green will keep him shielded from it.
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Cynnique
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Tom Cruise's son can always go hang-out with Michelle Pffiefer's adopted daughter who is also bi-racial. |
Babygirl
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And just think about them babies those two could have - 1/4 this, another 1/4 that...By the time their great-grands get here, the only race they'll belong to will be the human one... |
Kola
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 03:54 pm: |
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It's astonishing that you can't see how RACIST this comment is:
And just think about them babies those two could have - 1/4 this, another 1/4 that...By the time their great-grands get here, the only race they'll belong to will be the human one...
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Not to mention naive and ignorant.
How is it that mixed race people belong to the HUMAN RACE and the rest of us don't?
What makes them MORE HUMAN than black or white people?
And why are some black people such COWARDS about being what God created them to be that all they can dream about is being something else?
Don't you ever THINK about what you're espousing?
You're saying that the ANSWER to racism is to get rid of black people. And apparently YOUR ancestors weren't already human beings----according to what you just said.
You're so SICK and can't even see it.
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Abm
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Post Number: 2958
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 04:26 pm: |
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Kola,
I think Babygirl means that after so much interbreeding, it will be impossible to catagorize future human as we currently do. Thus the general "Human Being" classification.
I'm not sure she's necessarily advocating that or whether she feels being a "human being" is better than being Black.
Perhaps she is though. I don't know.
Maybe you should ASK Babygirl whether that is what prefer BEFORE you slam her. |
Kola
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Post Number: 1051
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 04:34 pm: |
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So you don't remember this poster called BABYGIRL, ABM?
I do.
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And I had promised myself earlier that I wouldn't have anything so say on this THREAD. But her comments just nauseated me so much.
You'd have to live in California and be surrounded by this kind of niggerish Plantation thinking (as I am) to fully understand how I could snap like that.
And AS SOON as I get some money---I will take my sons and depart this hiddeous nightmare of a state.
I truly hate California.
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Abm
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Post Number: 2961
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 04:48 pm: |
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Kola,
I remember your tirades a while back. Still, I think you should at least give her a chance to clarify herself before you rip her. Because I don't thinks it's clear within what she posted whether she was being descriptive or prescriptive.
And people change. |
Babygirl
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You are so funny, Kola! Thank you, ABM.
Kola: How is it that mixed race people belong to the HUMAN RACE and the rest of us don't? What makes them MORE HUMAN than black or white people?
Babygirl: No one was saying that being black or white makes anyone less HUMAN than the next tan, yellow, taupe, or chocolate person. We are all HUMAN. But you have become so fixated that you instantaneously perceive every comment that is not in agreement with your own thinking to be racist. I'm fascinated that you cannot see how you yourself continue to perpetuate that very same "racist" thinking.
Interbreeding is a fact of life. Neither you or I had any influence in the inception of the practice. And grandstanding on the pros or cons of it, won't make it go away or stop. It is what it is. I know I have no control over it. If you do, more power to ya'.
This isn't about "ridding" the world of BLACK people. We could get rid of all the white people and all the Chinese and any other racial group you want to get rid of and racism, is some form, would still be here, still controlling our emotions, and still being a source of debate and discussion. The only difference would be the players and the object of our displeasure.
At this rate, we may well see a day when all of our bloodlines, white/black/asian/other will be so mixed that there will no longer be a necessity for a politically correct term to categorize us. And then what? I'd bet my last dollar that all them mixed race babies will then be arguing about eye color or shoe size or height - one proclaiming theirs is better than someone else's.
It would be the same in Kola's perfect world, if there were no more interbreeding. And everyone was a distinct shade of whatever. Within their own respective color tribes, black folks and white folks would then be debating eye color, shoe size or height or something else.
Why? Because we thrive on being at war with one another. We live for the oneupmanship. There always has to be a leader of the pack. Someone's got to be in control, minions doing his bidding. HUMANS can't function or think straight if they can't feel superior over someone or something else. It also plays to our victim mentality. Got to have someone or something to blame for what's wrong in the world and with my own life. I can say I'm black and that's why I'm mistreated by the rest of the world. In the future, that mixed race baby can say my eyes are blue, I wear a size 10 shoe, and I'm only five feet two, that's why I'm being mistreated by the rest of world. And I'd bet that same dollar there would be a mixed raced "Kola" with brown eyes proclaiming that blue-eyed baby and all like her "racist" and "ignorant" because she couldn't see the importance of all brown-eyed people banding together to retain their brown-eyed lineage and proclaiming what she believes is rightfully theirs.
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Mahoganyanais
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Post Number: 489
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Okay, I give up. I've shelved my previous column to write one entitled, "Dear Tom Cruise..." |
Kola
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At this rate, we may well see a day when all of our bloodlines, white/black/asian/other will be so mixed that there will no longer be a necessity for a politically correct term to categorize us. And then what?
Arabs
Palestinians
Mulatto Coloureds
**All of whom are avowed White Supremacists.
We've seen this shit before in Africa.
You Americans are so GULLIBLE and full of it.
You really think people will get along just because they're BASTARDS?
And what kind of HUMAN can be happy never laying eyes on their own kind again?
How do you even dream of a world with no black people in it?
The way things are going, the "Utopia" as you described it....is the PROOF that meant exactly what I thought you meant.
And I'm not a NIGGER or a former slave, BabyGirl, so I don't share your fantasy about a world where my black babies no longer exist.
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Kola
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BABYGIRL:
At this rate, we may well see a day when all of our bloodlines, white/black/asian/other will be so mixed that there will no longer be a necessity for a politically correct term to categorize us. And then what?
KOLA:
Arabs
Palestinians
Mulatto Coloureds
**All of whom are avowed White Supremacists.
This is what crippled and destroyed North Africa.
You Americans are so GULLIBLE and PATHETIC. Everybody knows you believe the white man's ice is colder.
You really think people will get along just because they're BASTARDS?
And what kind of HUMAN can be happy never laying eyes on their own kind again?
How do you even dream of a world with no black people in it?
The way things are going, the "Utopia" as you described it....is the PROOF that You, Babygirl....meant exactly what I thought you meant.
And I'm not a NIGGER or a former slave, "BabyGirl", so I don't share your fantasy about a world in which my black babies no longer exist.
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Babygirl
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Kola:Arabs Palestinians Mulatto Coloureds
**All of whom are avowed White Supremacists.
Babygirl: Which is my point, Kola, whether the whole human race becomes mixed or NOT, racism will forever be a point of contention between the masses.
Kola: How do you even dream of a world with no black people in it?
Babygirl: Where, oh where, did I profess that to be my dream? To "HYPOTHETICALLY" express a "what if", which is in direct opposition to your "what if", doesn't make it my end all of end alls.
Kola: And I'm not a NIGGER or a former slave, "BabyGirl", so I don't share your fantasy about a world in which my black babies no longer exist
Babygirl: Get over yourself, Kola! Utopia? Proof? Twist it however it helps you to float your boat 'cause whether you see it, like it or agree with it, I love my black babies just as much as you love yours.
At this point you're just arguing for the sake of hearing yourself talk because what you want to exploit as MY truth isn't founded in one iota of fact. You hear what you want to hear and all else and the messenger be damned. |
Cynnique
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If a person doesn't like what they are because what they are has brought nothing but pain and ridicule and discrimination, then why would they not want to erase that which causes all of this. After all of this time, it looks to me like it would be easier to change color than to change minds. Just because Kola Boof says it should be different, doesn't mean that that's the way it has to be. As Babygirl says, we are all members of the human race and it's human nature for people of whatever race to want to be acceptable. It never occcurs to Kola that change can be for the better. And yeah, believe I said this. |
Kola
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No you don't love black children.
Don't tell that lie.
That's the whole problem. These black women don't love "BLACK" children.
It shows.
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Cynnique
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Loving black children may make adults feel noble and proud of themselves, but does love conquer all? I think not. |
Babygirl
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(Throwing my hands up in dismay!)
I don't care how long you beat that same dead horse, Kola. It's still dead. No amount of grandstanding and pontificating is ever going to breath life back into it. But I still respect you giving it that good old grade school try!
(One, two, three, breathe! One, two, three, breathe!)
I gots to run. Big Daddy's buying dinner!
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Abm
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 10:50 pm: |
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Mah,
You're such a trouble maker!
HAHA! |
Mahoganyanais
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ABM, you don't know the half...
;-) |
Kola
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Has anyone noticed this about SOME black people---especially the black middle class?
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They can understand a black person's anger and rage towards White Racism...
But then they can't comprehend how you could be so BITTERLY UPSET at Black people for espousing the same belief systems.
Cynique wrote the following and I can certainly sympathize with, understand and RELATE to this:
If a person doesn't like what they are because what they are has brought nothing but pain and ridicule and discrimination, then why would they not want to erase that which causes all of this. After all of this time, it looks to me like it would be easier to change color than to change minds.
**This kind of naked vulnerability makes PERFECT SENSE to me.
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But why can't black people understand that for those of us with enough integrity to go against "White Supremacist Conformity" and who truly Love our Humanity and who LOVE our blackness and who we are......why is it that no one understands the hostile RAGE and ANGER that is aroused by "Black folks" who espouse the same ERASURE that White Folks have been promoting, planning and ENFORCING for the last 500 years?
I don't see what the difference is between the old White 3/5ths of a Human Being theory.....and the comments made by BabyGirl and Cynique.
What I SEE...is the slave descendent being UNAWARE/IN DENIAL as to how deeply they've been influenced and "created" by their former owner.
That's what I see.
BabyGirl, in all her niggerish "assimilationist" euphoria, has the nerve to tell me that I'm BEATING A DEAD HORSE.
But she's being born from one---and raising her children to spend their lives trying to ride one.
But she doesn't see it, BECAUSE---the white man's ice is colder, and that's all she knows.
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Jackie
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Kola, I sent an email with a few contacts |
Abm
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Mah,
Perhaps. By observing the above, I think I'm getting an inking. |
Babygirl
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Kola: Why can't black people understand...
Babygirl: This is where you continually fall short, Kola. It's not about black people NOT understanding your views. I'd venture that not only do most understand, but they agree, perhaps just not to the extent of your own personal bitterness and rage because their experiences have not been your experiences. And then there are those who just don't AGREE and they as well have that right.
The difference between how you view things and how I MAY or MAY NOT view them is that no matter what I may or may not say you instantly make these flagrant, unilateral assumptions that you KNOW better and then you proceed to expouse what you claim are MY truths (No you don't love black children / the white man's ice is colder, and that's all she knows). When the truth of the matter is that such may very well not be so and THAT is where my dead horse reference came from. You continue to beat at what you WANT to THINK I am or that I am not. The insults and castigations remain the same. We can almost predict to the minute when you will spew swill at something you don't agree with. It never changes with you.
And as I said before, you're just arguing for the sake of hearing yourself talk because what you want to exploit as MY truth isn't founded in one iota of fact. You hear what you want to hear and all else and the messenger be damned. |
Yvettep
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Back to Tom Cruise: I did not hear/see the interview. I would, however, be interested to hear why he and his then-wife chose a bi-racial child to adopt. Not that celebs get a speacial "break" when adopting, but because of their resources they are often able to have several attorneys on the case. I assume, then, that there were several options, at least some of them non-biracial, White children or certainly Black children. (For example, Rosie seems to have had no problem finding White kids...)
So my question again, why a biracial child? I have no firm thoughts or agendas behind this, so no need for slams (*smile*)--but the question just occurred to me. What do you all think?
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Babygirl
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Yvettep, he actually didn't comment at all about WHY they adopted biracially. And only their son is biracial. The adopted daughter is white. Oprah questioned what, if any, conversations were ever had in the home about the child's ethnicity and Cruise's response was basically that it was a non-entity for them in their home. He and his ex only saw the child as their son and for them race had never been an issue.
Now, if I'm remembering correctly, wasn't it his ex, Nicole Kidman, who was dating and engaged to the singer, Seal? |
Abm
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Kola,
I concur with most of what you argue about concerning the source/effect of self-hatred amongst Blacks.
But you can't thwart people from doing what they prefer in a 'free society', regardless of how bias and 'unfree' the society actually be.
The only effective method I see available to you is to POSITIVELY promote the uniqueness of African/Black beauty and culture, which you have OFTEN done, quite stunningly.
I mentioned this before. But I do recall being taken aback by the beauty of African females as I watched HBO's "Sometime In April". I remember experiencing an almost, unique/involuntary pleasure in witnessing that.
I think if we saw more of THAT, rather than the n*%%@-ain't-$#*+ rants, a more effective case can be made for what you desire.
Babygirl,
I hear/understand EVERYTHING you say. But, honestly, I hope that I'm DEAD/GONE long before there are no uniquely White, Asian, Hispanic, Arab and BLACK people. I get nauseated just thinking about the sheer tedium of that.
And I agree that interbreeding is not a panacea for ills. |
Cynnique
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Why, indeed, since Nicole Kidman is an Australian and Australia won't even grant blacks permanent residency in their country, and it also has a terrible history of mistreating their Aborigine natives. As to why this adoption took place, who knows what inspires rich people to do what they do? But some of them do like power trips, and you have to wonder if Cruise's act of charity involves a latent God-complex that takes the form of giving a life of privilege and wealth to a child who would in no way be able to attain these blessings except through the benevolence of an omnipotent savior... Or some such shit as that. LOL |
Abm
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'Vette,
I think the spirit behind what Tom/Nicole did was probably sincere, if not enobled. Because children of color, even those who are mixed, are less likely to be adopted than White ones.
So to the extent they endeavored to help remedy that situation, I commend them, even though I may disagree with parts of how they've elected to raise the children.
BG,
I think Seal's either engaged or already married to a German 'supermodel' who's name eludes me.
But Nicole has done the IR thing. She was recently involved with biracial rocker Lenny Kravitz and Black rapper Q-tip (of Tribe Called Quest fame). |
Babygirl
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Thanks, my son corrected me as well.
Seal is engaged to Heidi Klum and Kidman was involved with Kravitz. |
Abm
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BG,
Thank you for reminding me of Klum's name.
Rumor has it Kravitz only used his involvement with Kidman - who was hotter than the sun from her recent Oscar nominations - to boost his flagging Q-rating, and when he’d gotten of her what he wanted, he not-so-subtly extricated himself from their relationship by electing to very publicly date other women.
You know how we ‘brothahs’ do. |
Kola
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ABM and BabyGirl BOTH ignored my question.
I didn't say my "views"----I said my "anger/rage".
Why in the hell can you understand INSTANTLY why I would be angry with a White Person suggesting that maybe it would be a better world if my children didn't exist.......but not expect the same "anger/rage" to surface when BLACKS were spewing the shit?
This really is a legitimate question and it's frustrating.
Blacks, across the board, can understand anger at whites----but don't see why blacks would be angry at other blacks for Jig-dancing and bafoonery.
I get FAR MORE angry at the blacks than the racist whites!
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Kola
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Jackie, thank you. Got it.
I'll be going to Arizona if I have to drive there myself.
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Cynnique
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I certainly have the impression that you think it would be a better world if bi-racial children didn't exist, Kola. But apparently that's OK, because - well, because you say so. And, now, get ready to blow a gasket, but blackness is on course with becoming obsolete. Just like horse-drawn buggies that were gradually replaced by cars. Maybe automobiles aren't better than the quaintness of carriages, but try and tell that to the people who are enjoying the smooth ride of a new car. |
Yvettep
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Babygirl, thanks for shedding light on the further context of the interview.
I think the spirit behind what Tom/Nicole did was probably sincere, if not enobled. Because children of color, even those who are mixed, are less likely to be adopted than White ones.
So to the extent they endeavored to help remedy that situation, I commend them, even though I may disagree with parts of how they've elected to raise the children.
ABM, I hear you about this. And as you may remember, adoption is my research area as well as an enduring personal interest of mine. However, if what you say here is true--that is, if Cruise/Kidman were aware of this disparity (and further acted based on this awareness), then it is even more disingenuous for him now to be touting this "human race" line.
I'm more inclined, now that I reflect on it a little, to believe along the lines of Cynique's assessment: some kind of "god complex" or power trip or something.
I'm still thinking about this one, though. I wonder if Angelina Jolie's int'l adopted child (children? from an Asian country I believe?) is also going to now be a part of the "human race."
How interesting--there will be "humans" and there will be the rest of us...
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Kola
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No, I don't envision or WANT a world where Bi-racial children don't exist.
My resentment is that they're being USED as a further weapon to EXTINUATE white supremacy---just as Whites have always USED mixed race people as the "answer" for weakening and destroying groups of Black people who might otherwise compete with them.
They neutralize the threat of Black competition by creating a confused mass of GYPSIES, whose mixture makes it impossible for them to unite. This is nothing new.
Stupid black people fall for it and the resultant MILLIONS of Mixed Progeny end up miserable, un-claimed and wandering until they disappear.
Someone posted an article about ARGENTINA recently which PROVED my point.
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Cynnique
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So does staying black spare you from the fate of the "gypsies?" Or does it leave you to wallow in the misery that comes in your color? |
Abm
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'Vette,
("I can't believe I've become an apologist for Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, for Christ Sake! Hehe!")
First, just because someone does a good thing doesn't mean that EVERYTHING they do related to such will be 'good'.
I view Cruise/Kidman like I do most White foks: Even the very best, most decent ones seem thoroughly flummoxed by the race issue.
So, in some respect, I'm inclined to cut them some slack if they at least make a jesture in the general direction of something good.
Now. Do you honestly believe that Cruise/Kidman - movies stars who, especially Cruise, have been shielded from the lives of 99.9% of people - have the social, cultural wherewithal to navigate the torturous issue of racism/bias? If you do, I'd say I think you're giving them too much credit.
My guess is they are oblivious of the subtleties of these issues and via their gilded perspective honestly and earnestly think that a 'colorless' world would best given all the tumult that ensue from squabbling over racism, creed, ethnicity and religion.
("Hell! I think Cruise is a friggin' high school drop out, if I recall correctly. What the @#$% does he know, really, other than how to preen and then pose and smile before a camera?")
So, again, I can't get mad about what why I think they did what they did. Because by my expectations of them, they're okay.
AND...
I think we ALL do what we do for selfish, often self-aggrandizing reasons.
That's why things like perms, throwback jerseys, lipstick, Viagra, breast implants and Porsche's exist.
I think the only difference is whether what one does also benefit OTHERS. If, on balance at least, it does, it should be commended and supported, regardless of whether one also does or doesn't harbor some "god complex".
Because, in truth, every great deed has at its origin some MOFO with an ego the size Russia. |
Abm
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Kola,
I don't discount or disregard your anger. But, as righteous as it may be, I just wonder whether ultimately it will sans temperance do you much good. |
Kola
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ABM---
everything I do (including acting a fool) is "CALCULATED".
As I said quite brilliantly once:
"I didn't call Connie Chung a bitch because it was right---I called her a bitch because it was necessary."
I was setting an example for little black girls (who were watching)---an "alternative" example to what generations of MAIDS worldwide have set for them.
Children watch very closely---the REACTION that their parents give things. These reactions teach them to be compliant, passive and to conform.......OR......to REBEL and assert their own will.
Chung was espousing the idea that a black woman wasn't even good enough to be chosen to be "raped" by a Rich, Powerful man ie. Osama. And it was MY DUTY to instruct black girls to REBEL against that kind of thinking and the women who espouse it---by calling her a "cross eyed bitch" IN FRONT of those little girls.
OF COURSE IT WASN'T RIGHT!!!
You think it's right for me to be calling people "niggers"???? OF COURSE NOT.
But it's NECESSARY, you see.
Some modicum of "Entitlement" must be set for Black children in this country. It's important that they see me acting out----as long as my actions are in the service of our common goal as a people, which is to seek LIBERATION and PARITY for "black people".
When the children see that the mother LOVES herself---they begin to love themselves as well.
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Abm
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Kola,
Hmmmmm?
Those are some interesting, compelling points that I had not thought about, at least from that perspective.
I guess I often respond to you as person and not some trailblazing symbol being wielded to thwart oppression.
I mean, know that's what you're attempting to do, but perhaps I underestimate your commitment to such.
Also, often when I read what you say I think, alas, people who say and do such often die violently...Although I will hope, pray and trust in GOD that such will not be the case.
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Kola
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ABM...I WILL die violently.
So resign yourself to it and just love me while I'm here.
I gain much strength and inspiration from your support and understanding. You are one of my favorite men of all time.
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Abm
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Kola,
I love you too. And I expect you to live a long, healthy and productive life.
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Yvettep
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ABM, OK...I guess. I wasn't saying that everything they do should be "right" or "good"--I was not even castigating Cruise for his decision or his statement. I was, however, wondering where his motivation came from. I hope everything works out for the Cruise clan.
I just heard of some fascinating research on inter-racial adoption at a great conference I attended. Most of it would seem to go against the effectiveness of the "just human race" method of childrearing.
But then again, none of these scholars' research participants were famous and wealthy celebrities, so maybe these findings don't apply in this case.
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Yvettep
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Babygirl, others: What (if anything) did Oprah say in response to Cruise's statement? |
Kola
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YVETTE--
Oprah immediately had a SCOWL on her face, which if you re-read his comment, is why he stammered with the "clarification".....Re-read his comment and you will see that the look on her face had him on the defensive.
But, of course, it was "TOM"---her baby, "TOM", so she graciously cut him some slack.
I don't blame her. I love Oprah.
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Cynnique
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So does anybody think if Tom Cruise was just a blue-collar Joe Schmoe he wouldn've adopted a bi-racial baby?? I doubt it because he wouldn't have had the money to raise his child in a controlled environment. |
Abm
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'Vette,
I tend to agree that the colorless "human race" thing won't work in most cases. Why? Well, in part because the rest of the WORLD won't let it.
Kola,
Oh you're just kissing up to Oprah so she'll invite you to be on her show and hock your (tittie-brandishing) books.
But seriously, let's hope at least Oprah said in private to Cruise what we'd preferred she said publicly ("Man! You've got what much of the world would consider a BLACK BOY. Is you outtah yo' GD mind for sayin' some cockabullcrap like THAT?") |
Kola
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I DO love Oprah.
I think she's great.
And know this---I will NEVER be a guest on Oprah.
I'm just not liked in that clique and never will be.
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Babygirl
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Yvette, I don't know that I saw Oprah's response as Kola saw it. I didn't see a "scowl". He said what he said, she nodded, and she let it pass. I don't think he "stammered" his response any more so than he "stammered" any other response to a question that caught him off guard and he needed to think about his response to before answering. My impression was that if it wasn't an issue for him, then it wasn't going to be an issue for her or her audience as far as she was concerned. But then that was just MY impression. |
Kola
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Oprah wasn't smiling AT ALL during that question, Babygirl.
AT ALL.
Her face became an over-baked slice of Fudge. DRY and HARD.
And that's not how OPRAH reacts with her SUPERSTAR guests....EVER...Especially John Travolta or Tom Cruise.
Do you watch OPRAH show a lot?
She was not pleased, but POLITE and gave a cheery FAKE smile at the end.
"Let it pass" is right, because I LAUGHED out loud at her "graciousness".
She's so much like an African Mother. I know her type. And I don't see her as a SELLOUT at all....sure, she's kinda colorstruck (worshipping of the yellow folks).....but OPRAH creates A LOT of KOLA-like MEDIA, just from a Country Girl Standpoint.
Now....I won't ever forgive her for fucking up "THEIR EYES WERE WATCHING GOD", because she surely screwed that up.
But she also left one of the most powerfully important messages EVER....with her much hated masterpiece, "BELOVED".
That was a helluva message for Black folks, if they'd ever actually WATCH the damn movie and comprehend what they're watching.
And she did wonders for bringing a VOICE/launch pad to Black Women WOMANIST writers.....she really put them on the map in a huge way.
Toni Morrison and Alice Walker are major sellers now in EUROPE because of Oprah.
Kola Boof books are BIG in "Belgium" and the "Netherlands" of all places---I believe because of Oprah's influence.
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Abm
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Kola,
Not "Alice Walker" and "Toni Morrion" enough for Oprah, huh?
("Kola's bankbook laments.")
Funny. I'm not as much a fan of Oprah as you. But I actually thought her Beloved was about as close to the original as one could expect. It's just a difficult book to put to film.
TEWWG could have, however, been done better. |
Kola
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Well, ABM...
...it's no secret that a lot the black middle class, which includes these type of women I admire---really don't like my approach, my voice or my flamboyance.
And I say fuck 'em.
Black American women are too conservative and SLOW for me. I love them with all my heart, but the fact remains---they big-up people like me IN PRIVATE and pretend to never have heard of me in PUBLIC.
I really don't expect to be acknowledged in my lifetime, but imagine that I will be by some future generation.
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Abm
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Kola,
Yeah...Hey! Maybe 200 years from now you'll be made into Deity Kola Boof, the Kinky Goddess of Love and Milk Bearing Breastesses who mates with and then drowns well-hung Black men who refuse to obey her.
Wouldjah dig being THAT? |
Kola
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Well, ABM...Zora Neal Hurston was seen as an "oddity" in her day and wasn't much embraced by BLACK WOMEN until she was dead---she was fiercely proud of being BLACK, not wanting to hear about any "Indian" relatives and was quite SEXUALLY AUTONOMOUS, outspoken and refused to put on airs---always her country self.
She never lived to really see her work embraced or taken seriously to the degree that it should've been. While "NATIVE SON" and "INVISIBLE MAN" were being lauded as Masterpieces----it wasn't until the early 1970's that "THEIR EYES WERE WATCHING GOD" began to FINALLY be recognized as a Masterpiece, equal to Wright and Ellison's books. And again----BLACK WOMEN (the clubs, the societies, the church groups, the college set) in the 1930's and 1940's were amazingly chilly towards Zora.
Just like with Malcolm, it was YEARS LATER (after she was dead) that they would all claim to have loved her so much. But many, during her lifetime, called her a "KOOK" and turned their noses up at her books.
Books in which the COMMON black woman often appears---and appears gloriously.
The self-hatred of the Black Woman is very different of that of the Black Man (in that he WANTS to save himself and is insecure enough to DEMAND that he's not inferior). Black women cling to what they're used to, avoiding change, even if it means they have to perish.
You've heard people here claim that I don't want change.....but the reality is, I want to change US....not erase us.
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Abm
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Kola,
So...then I guess your answer to my last question would be "Yes". |
Kola
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I'm not about all that stuff ABM.
Being a big chested milk goddess with well hung men.
You know that I'm so much more spiritual than that.
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Abm
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Kola,
Being big breasted and spiritual are not mutually exclusive. Some of deepest chicks I know can put an eye out with their headlights.
And the accompaniment of hung-low Joes can help a sistah get in touch with all KINDS of 'elements' within her. |
Kola
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Kola,
Being big breasted and spiritual are not mutually exclusive. Some of deepest chicks I know can put an eye out with their headlights.
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Well, wait'll you see my video, love.
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Abm
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Kola,
Okay. But should I do that with or without my kids in the room? |
Kola
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Well, actually ABM...your kids could watch this.
Just EXPLAIN to them that it's about a woman from an African culture.
The scenes of me praying in the river (my church) are the only nude ones.
Otherwise, I'm with my children or simply being interviewed.
Your kids would find it boring, probably. And I believe that DESTINED will really LOOOOOOVE this video, because of the things I'm saying.
Although, she might not enjoy the nudity.
Footage of Osama Bin Laden is in the video. I haven't seen the EDITED, FINISHED version.
I believe it will run 30 to 40 minutes.
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Kola
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P.S.
Goodnight, I'm going to bed.
(actually---I have to try and write on my novel)
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Anunaki3600
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I remember watching some documentaries about Native American children who were forcefully adopted by White families in order to assimilate them culturally. These children ended up in a big mess psychologically and the same happened to Native Australian children with the same experience. They seemed to be lost. None of them really became the "human race" T. Cruise is talking about. It is easy to live in a controlled environment "bubble" but once you are out in the jungle, you will be bitten by the black mamba if you are not taught the right skills. |
Yvettep
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Anunaki3600, the "boarding school" history is a fascinating--and distressing--one. Some background from the Encyclopedia of North American Indians:
Beginning in the nineteenth century, boarding schools played a fundamental role in the programs designed by the U.S. government to foster the assimilation of native peoples into the mainstream of American society. Reformers and politicians who favored the policy of reservation allotment also advanced the concept of placing Indian children in residential schools where they would speak English, learn a vocation, and practice farming. Advocates of boarding schools argued that industrial training, in combination with several years of isolation from family, would diminish the influence of tribalism on a new generation of American Indians. For fifty years after the first federally administered residential school was established in 1879 at Carlisle, Pennsylvania, thousands of Native American children and youth were sent to live, work, and be educated in the schools.
More: http://college.hmco.com/history/readerscomp/naind/html/na_004500_boardingscho.ht m
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Kola
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I've told you guys ALL THIS about the "erasure" of people.
It took 500 years to KILL OFF the American Indian.
The stories about Canada in the 1600's and how the Whites slaughtered and RAPED the Indians---making laws forbidding them to marry their own and such, are in some documentary I watched on PBS several years ago.
It reminded me so much of the way EGYPT was finally brought down.
Through FORCED assimilation with the Romans via Queen Cleopatra's Intermarriage Law (which forced Egyptians to marry ONLY Non-Egyptians).
This is nothing new----and now in the U.S., on every Soap Opera, every music video, every magazine and from the mouth of every bumbling stupid ass Black Man comes the MESSAGE that our salvation as Blacks is to marry as White as possible.
And with the new statistic that 42% of black women will NEVER marry comes the Obvious Reality of what we say in Africa----"Kill the Queen, the Nest will die". Without Black Mothers, the off spring lose BLACK ACCULTURATION and become more "White-thinking" and have no interest in the historical struggle of Black people. Our culture and our people become bastardized, scattered like Gypsies and they DIE.
If you don't love your people---they die.
And right now, worldwide, the Black Man is committing a vile character assassination AGAINST the black woman---all to justify his LUST for the White Man's mother. And in doing so, he does not SEE that his young black sons literally SEE and TREAT black women with the same brutal inhumanity that White Slave Owners once did----all because black men are stupid.
They really think they're GAINING A MEDAL by sleeping with all these women, but look around---the truth is they're ROTTING their own tree roots, so that it cannot grow.
Our men are weak and stupid and put us in a position of "POWERLESSNESS" where we are now the Easy Prey of men of other races.
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Abm
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Kola,
You're pissed all cause a brothah's trynah score a little extra c@@chie?
Dayam!
A brothah can't do NUTHIN' he wants without catchin' flak from come c@#$blockin' sistah.
Reality Check:
ALL those 'vile character assassinating' brothahs are being RAISED by BLACK mothers. Most have active BLACK grandmothers, aunts and other female mentors. Most have BLACK sisters. What the H*LL YAWL doing while we're becoming "bastardized"?
Shopping? |
Kola
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ABM, I have "OFTEN" stated that it's Self-hating Black women who create and raise these sons.
You yourself told us about discussing "hair straightening" with the women in YOUR family and the denials, discomfort and impugnity the women engendered.
BLACK WOMEN create and accept this "psychological brutality" against themselves, because they believe they DESERVE IT.
Especially after the whole society has convinced them that it was THEIR FAULT they were raped during slavery---that it was a "love affair" with the White Man---NOT MASS RAPE---and that "Black Women" were backwards, ignorant naked creatures to being with---hence the state of Africa itself.
Black women dutifully raise their children under a WHITE blue eyed "savior" with a Bolshevik-Latin name (Jesus Christ) and wear their hair in imitation of the White Man's mother---they reject AFRICA, because the last thing they want is for people to remember that they come from there--so their children reject and disparage Africa (and the MEDIA HELPS by doing stories like the one about Widow Fucking).......
and you now suddenly have even the women of AFRICA rejecting the notion that they come from Africa!! Notice that ABM? Because it's just not COOL.
But through it all....BLACK MEN are the ones who create this self-denial in Black "DAUGHTERS" and have for centuries now....
.....by always choosing and praising the lightest (1920: "I don't haul no coal")....by always lusting after and glorifying the White Woman's image.....and MAINLY by verbally castigating the black woman's character, abusing and cursing her image at every juncture (just turn on BET right now).
We are constantly warned not to bad-mouth Black Fathers in front of the children.....but the black mother is bad-mouthed in the Media, in the Church, in the Upper Class Bill Cosby Cliques. Everywhere....the Black man DOWNS the black woman and blames everything on her
...so how does a Black daughter WANT to be black?
And if she doesn't want to be "Black" (notice she'd rather be called a "Sista" instead of a black woman)....then how does she produce a Healthy Viable SEED?
She can't without the Black Man's affirmation. And the Black Man, especially in America, ONLY affirms the White woman's Image or those women who are mixed enough to imitate it.
And that's a FACT.
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**Right back at you, ABM
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Kola
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Post Number: 1142
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Kola,
You're pissed all cause a brothah's trynah score a little extra c@@chie?
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ABM,
Why are you ignoring the FACT that there are now MILLIONS....millions of black boys who REFUSE to date a black girl.....because it carries no "STATUS".
MOST black men do not "get married". So the statistics about marriage are irrevelent.
If these "new black men" are only scoring a little extra coochy, ABM
----then why is it that more BI-racial babies were born in California than "Black" babies for the first time in history?
Why do Black nappyheaded 17 year old boys in California defensively decree: "I'm not black--I'm brown!! My mother was Mexican and my great grandmother was Indian."
"Don't be calling me no African--I ain't no fucking African!"
Why do men like yourself and Anunaki choose to IGNORE the reality of what's REALLY going on----too ashamed to acknowledge what your "brothas" are actually turning into-----all the while CONSENTING to their Self-Destruction by silently claiming that all that is happening is black men seeking a little extra coochie.
The Black Woman is being DETHRONED by the Black Man's DENIAL of his self-hatred......"Kill the Queen, the Nest will die"........and the WHITE MAN is happily standing by, watching and ENCOURAGING the black man, because the WHITE MAN is a clever, brilliant strategist
.....and he knows that once you kill your own mother.....
you can never come back from it.
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Abm
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Post Number: 3040
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Kola,
If California was indicative of America, John Kerry would be president.
As a whole, only 10% of BM have nonAA wives.
And actually, the rate of BF/WM marriages increasing at a GREATER rate than BM/WF.
So, in a minute, more of those biracial babies will have nappyheaded mothers than stringyheaded ones. |
Abm
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Kola,
It's interesting how you excuse the sistahs succumbing to racism/bias but not the brothahs. It's like WE haven't been victimized together.
If you observe every major health, educational, economic, social, culture, penal, etc. indicator, the Black MAN is getting mulekicked up dah @$$.
Yet, you carry on as if we have the great, liberated life to do what we will when the truth is, on balance, we're struggling MORE than Black women.
I'm a professional man. Most of the Black professional/business people I see/work with are FEMALE, not male.
Why?
Probably because close 70% of Blacks who are earning college degrees are FEMALE.
Where are male age peers? Not certain.
But I'll dayam sure bet FAR more of them are in jail than are with White women. |
Kola
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Post Number: 1145
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But the BLACK MEN are the ones actively DESTROYING our race, ABM.
Not the Black Woman.
Even the fucking high yellow girls are Holding Up Africa and representing the BLACK WOMAN as best they can!
It's these fucking weak, selfish, black-hating BLACK MALES that are trying to kill our people off.
I'm so sick of coddling and spoiling these selfish motherfuckers.
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Yvettep
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Post Number: 344
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 05:38 pm: |
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Sorry to interrupt, but I heard that Tom Cruise also castigated Brooke Shields for using medication for her postpartum depression. I guess his Scientology religion doesn't allow it or something. Was that in the same Oprah interview?
My, my, my. He's just full of ideas, isn't he. |
Abm
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Post Number: 3043
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Kola,
That's why it should be against the law to allow movie stars to speak on anything other than about whatever dreadful movie their about to release.
Because whenever they express an opinion about anything real, you get that same feeling you get as someone scratch claws across a blackboard. |
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