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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 02:24 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well....

...although I can't stand him...I've always had SERIOUS doubts that he molested the kids in this case....OK, straight out, I just don't believe that Michael Jackson is a child molestor......and it seems to me, at this point, that he's going to WALK.

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SANTA MARIA, Calif., May 17 - A longtime social worker testified on Tuesday that she investigated accusations that Michael Jackson's accuser had been sexually abused but found no basis for believing that was the case.

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Irene Peters, a social worker with 30 years of experience in the Los Angeles County Department of Child and Family Services, told the jury that she investigated after a complaint had been lodged with her office after a documentary was broadcast in February 2003.

In that documentary, Mr. Jackson told the interviewer, Martin Bashir, that he slept with young boys.

The accuser appeared in the documentary with his head resting lovingly on Mr. Jackson's shoulder.

He only later accused Mr. Jackson of molesting him.

Testifying for the defense, Ms. Peters said she and two colleagues interviewed the accuser, his two siblings and his mother in the Los Angeles apartment of the mother's boyfriend and were told that the children had not been mistreated or sexually abused.

"I asked point blank, 'Did you sleep in bed with Mr. Jackson?' " Ms. Peters said she asked the accuser, who was 13.

He responded that he did not, she said.

She then asked whether Mr. Jackson had touched him sexually.

"He became upset," Ms. Peters testified. "Said: 'Everyone thinks Michael Jackson abused me. He never touched me.' He was very upset about it."

She said that the teenager's demeanor was "playful, articulate" and that "he appeared to enjoy the attention."

She added that he was not withdrawn or mistrustful, behavior that is common with sexual abuse victims.

The prosecution has accused Mr. Jackson of molesting the boy after the date of Ms. Peters's interview, and before May 12, 2003, when the family was escorted off the Neverland Ranch, five miles from Los Olivos.

The testimony on Tuesday underscored how difficult it may be to prove that Mr. Jackson chose to molest the boy at the very moment when the news media, the police and social workers were scrutinizing him for such crimes.

Ms. Peters and her supervisor, Karen Walker, testified that the accuser's mother never complained that she was being held against her will at the ranch, as the prosecution contends, despite many opportunities to do so.

Instead, the two social workers said, the mother repeatedly expressed her displeasure that Mr. Bashir's documentary showed her son's face without her permission and asked for help in persuading Mr. Jackson to send her children to private school, because of the unwanted news media attention.

"Her main complaint was she felt the kids were being taped without her consent, and what could she do about it," Ms. Peters said.

She and Ms. Walker met the mother and spoke to her repeatedly on the telephone in February and March, when the family says it was held captive.

On April 1, 2003, the social workers coincidentally crossed paths with the mother and her children at a restaurant in Los Angeles, and no mention was made of being abused or held captive, they said.

"I asked how the children were doing, and she said they were doing O.K., except they had missed a lot of school," Ms. Peters testified.

On cross-examination, District Attorney Thomas W. Sneddon Jr. tried to show that the social workers should have been more skeptical.

Under questioning by the prosecutor, Ms. Peters agreed that teenage boys are often slow to admit being molested when asked about it in front of their mothers.

"I would have called," Ms. Peters said, referring to the police, "if there was any doubt in my mind that abuse was going on. We'd have been in children's court."



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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 03:42 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

You need to go on and admit that in spite of all your castigations, you love Michael Jackson as much as I do.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 04:26 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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Being found not guilty is different from being innocent--

If he is found not guilty--which I doubt, I believe the jury is going to feel the pressure to convict him of something--they will get him next time.

He can't stop. He won't stop.

He will end up like Oscar Wilde and Fatty Arbuckle.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 04:39 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wow Chris.

That whole Fatty Arbuckle thing was something else. I have a documentary about it.

And you've got the suspense going for me now.

I really wonder how the jury is taking all this.

Californians can be so ditzy.

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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 05:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

HEY! Watch that "ditzy" stuff Ms. Kola! And ABM, I saw your "phoney" comment about Southern Californians - watch it Mister! Cause I'm ALL real!
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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 06:02 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOL

sorry Crystal.

I love you!!!!

Girl, you know I'm not talking about YOU.

I bet you aren't even FROM California. You look like you got too much sense.

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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 06:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

WRONG! Born, raised and hope to stay in L.A.

I'll let it slide this time but . . . watch it!
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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 08:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Crystal,

No disrespect. But I can't STAND the Greater LA area!

Phoney titties.
Phoney noses.
Phoney @$$es.
Phoney hair.
Phoney talk.
Phoney walk.
Phoney dance.

It's just a big@$$, phoney@$$ mess to me.

There are many wonderful people there. You and yours included. And I wish you all the best.

But all totalled, I can do without Southern California.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 08:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

...How you think Michael Jackson got turned out...Southern California.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 08:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

...What happened to OJ...Southern California.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 08:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

...Where were the Crips/Bloods born...Southern California.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 08:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

...Where was Gangsta Rap born...Southern California.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 09:04 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOL

Crystal, I LOVE U girl.

But I'm with Daddy Lakeshore.

We in a mess out here.



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Watts Riots.....City of Angels
Rodney King's @$$ kicked......City of Angels
Post Rodney King's @$$ kickoff Riots....City of Angels
Some of the first car-jackings...City of Angels
Newest Hispanic Mayor....City of Angels
Californiaaa loves to party..........
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 11:39 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Damn! Y’all sure are all up in our business – so you think. What, y’all ain’t got no business of your own to tend to? And guess what ABM? We can do without you too. We’ve got the Santa Ana winds, we don’t need any more hot air. And yeah, we did all that – SO?

I guess all you know is Hollywood cause ain’t nothing phony about the sistas on Manchester and Western Ave – except for the hair and nails – hahahaha!

“L.A. is my home town, it’s a funky town”
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 01:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Crystal, I LOOOOOOOOOOVE Manchester and Western!

Thomas used to have an apartment on Western and Century, his first electrical store was on Western and Imperial.

I used to LIVE Over there, girl!!!!

Now I know you the bomb!

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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 02:06 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Crystal,

You know me and you be right here, eye-2-eye. But don't even try to front like you LaLa Landers aren't especially crazy.

'Cuz your @$$e$ are!

But hey babe. If you like it, love it...jes me the ('Blank') outtah it.
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 02:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Abm, ok boo.

I ain't said we ain't crazy - 'cuz we are. All I'm saying is don't start none, won't be none.

And look at Kola, all up in da hood and shyt. Holla Kola!
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 02:22 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Girl, I love the HOOD.

I was raised in Anacostia, S.E. D.C.---supposedly the worst ghetto in America.

It was paradise to me.

I never have had trouble in the HOOD, to be honest.

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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 02:38 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Crystal,

You know we be like that, Girlie Mack.


Kola: "I never have had trouble in the HOOD, to be honest."

ABM: Dat's cuz most dem kneegrow were skurred that if they mess witcha you'd go all African Voodoo Priestess on their @$$ and make their d*#%s fall off or something.
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 02:41 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Crystal,

‘Sides. I don’t blame yawl for those problems. I figure it’s all that sun, fog, seawater and silicone coagulating together that stir yawl up so.

Hell! Look at what it’s done to Kola!

Haha!
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 02:52 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No, ABM.

It's cause I had 5 brothers and a big strapping 6'4 BLack Father....who kept my ass under lock and key.

Only way I got in trouble was with a trusted person (black male teacher, tutor) at school.

LOL

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Silicone? You ain't hearing me man! The real deal sistas around here don't need no damn silicone!

I do love me some beach though.

Well, I can't play with you guys no more today. Gotta get some work done so I can go on vacation next week. VEGAS! I'm hoping to take advantage of their slogan - what happens there stays there. hahaha
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 03:10 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

Dude got to doze pubescient undies in spite of all that frightful Kneegrow male aggression to the contrary?

DAYAM!

Was he on crack? Was he some kinda magician? Did he have a deathwish?

What?


You remind me of something. Recently while at a restaurant, I observed the chester-molester @$$ White dude leer at my teenage daughter. Dude looked her from head-2-toe, front, back and all parts in between BEFORE he realized I was staring right at his @$$ just HOPING/PRAYING he'd be dumb enough to say a mofo'g word. Of course, soon as he could tell she was with me, he quickly looked away like nothing happened.

See. It's stuff like that and like what you endured with your teacher that make me think before it's all over I may haftah killah mofo about my daughters.
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 03:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ABM, you should have blazed his ass just for looking.
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 03:17 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOL

that's true, because if I remember correctly---Crystal you've got enough Breast to help out 2 or 3 flat chicks. LOL

And you're right, Crystal. The black women out here are not as phoney, fake as the other races of women---who mostly ARE fake.

But I think it's the attention factor.

I see most black women/girls out here in a state of "quiet" reflection, the "young" ones are ALONE and have become introverted and distant.....the other women suck up all the attention and are really not nice women, either, and their competition with each other is so fierce that they'll BUY anything to win the game.

What shocks me though---are these new "fake" asses I'm seeing on White, Latina, Asian "MEN" AND women.

How do they sit on silicone hard asses? That shit hardens up like a helmet, but you see these misshapened booties...all mal-formed and outrageously FAKE.

But I notice black men don't care. They KNOW these white women asses are fake and they just PRETEND that it's God-given. Anything a white woman does is OK, but let a black woman get a weave---she's trash, deserving of disrespect and mistreatment.

One thing I do hate out here, Crystal----are the black men. I hate these motherfuckers.

The only black men I socialize with are from BACK EAST (D.C., Detroit, Chicago, Memphis, Houston, Atlanta, New York, Philly).....or they're from Africa and the Carribean or BELIZE.

Now, of course, the MEXICAN men out here LOOOOOOOVE black women and they're the only men who chase black girls from what I see----so I have allowed a few of them become on "speaking terms" with me, although I won't date them. But they do make you feel good with the kind of things they say.

Imagine in 2005, you hear this sexy deep voice say, "Hello, chocolate. You look'n fine"-----and you look up and it's a MEXICAN!!! Always a Mexican.

"Senorita--you are so beaut-T-full. I love your skin."

I just smile and say something in Arabic.

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OUHHHHHHH

You be careful in VEGAS. But do have you some fun.

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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 03:17 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Crystal,

Never said you and your homies were silicone-enable. Jes there are some many others out there who are, there’s almost as much of that stuff in the air as there is Oxygen.

Seeyah, Thrilla!

Enjoy Vegas!

And remember: Soliciting the 'goodies' is legal in Nevada. So if you elect to get into REALLY hoochie type stuff...you may as well get paid for it. ;)
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 03:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mah,

You KNOW I wanted to. Still do...<fuming!!>

I hope that $#*+ don't happen again anytime soon. (Though, part of me PRAYS it does.)
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 03:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ABM,

My teacher was a YOUNG black male college student at HOWARD UNIVERSITY who tutored students in English at a S.E. school.

He became a friend of the family and was well trusted by my dad and brothers.

He was a member of the BOULE (a blue vein high yellow GEORGETOWN boy, for the record---those rich, clannish blacks where all the mothers can pass for WHITE)

I don't know how it happened, it just progressed over the years until....I was 17.....and

you'll have to read about the Statutory Rape TRIAL in my autobiography, "Diary of a Lost Girl".

It was my fault as much as his.



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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 03:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And also ABM---black men stare down young white girls and fuck them like it's going out of style.

Look at SNOOP DOGG's Spring Break Videos.

Can you imagine how White fathers must feel having that shit out there?

Everywhere they go, black males are ALLOWED to gawk and inspect their daughters---but due to racism, they have to ignore it.

I feel for them and I say...

It's only natural that White men will begin to become predatory towards black men's daughters. THAT DAY IS COMING.

And after being in virtual SIBERIA in this country---black women's attitudes towards White men are going to change DRASTICALLY.



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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 03:34 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

Please feel free to continue to wax on rhapsodically about the Crystal's chest.

I laugh at Black guys who pretend White chicks got-it like the sistah. The $#*+ ain't even close.

That's one of the reasons why I was ranting on a little while back about all the fakery sistahs do with their hair.

It's like yawl trynah achieve a beauty that don't even exist.


Kola: "'Senorita--you are so beaut-T-full. I love your skin'....'I just smile and say something in Arabic.'"

ABM: Okay. But what you may not know about the "Universal Male Desire for Sex" is that such a tactic will be misconscrued as a positive response. That's in Section IV of the "'Desire for Sex" guidebook that says "Anytime a woman smiles and speak to you in a foreign language means she really wants to eventually become your love slave and baby mama." So to stay outtah trouble, you'd better pick up a copy of that book.
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 03:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

A child CANNOT be at fault for sex with an adult.

He was grown. You were not.

It was ALL his fault. NONE of it was yours.

And, unfortunately for thinking/saying otherwise, you’re mimicking/perpetuating some of that dangerous blame-the-victim tripe that scare victims/families/prosecutors from thwarting rape.


And, yeah, men star at women. It’s natural.

But my daughter, though, beautiful, is CLEARLY a minor. Thus, what dude was doing was inappropriate. And add to that she was with her protective father, makes that $#*+ for him...HAZARDOUS!

Now. Once my daughter is grown and can rationally make decisions for herself, I don’t imagine I’ll have much at all to say about how and with whom she does the ‘do’.

And the way I hear her talk about how cute Brad Pitt (Dayam! That mofo is the MAN!) is, it is at least possible some (though, hopefully not very MANY) of whom she 'do' may indeed be White.
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I'm not gone yet Abm so watch it. Kola exaggerates a bit. I could probably help out 1 maybe 2 if the 2nd one don't need too much but I gotta keep the rest 'cuz I'm back on the hunt too you know.

I understand about your daughter but be careful because you won't be able to protect her from your jail cell if you get busted for busting up some oggling buster.

Ok, I gotta go for real now. The buzzards around here are smelling vacation blood and keep circling.
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 04:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Crystal,

Based on Kola’s, I’d probably like to “watch" both of "it”...if you lemme.

Seriously, mos’ def on the oogling. Ain’t no good to her doing dah man’s time.


Crystal: “The buzzards around here are smelling vacation blood and keep circling.”
ABM: Jes so long’s that’s ALL they’re “smelling”, Babe.
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 10:10 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Abm..Im 55 and Brad Pitt is a cutie LOL
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 11:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ABM...I'm going to tell you the truth.

I think Brad Pitt is sexy, cute, whatever. But he couldn't HIT me. There's no way I'd let him hit.

Certainly there's a white man SOMEWHERE that I would go to bed with, but I can't think who off hand.

When I see white men in movies/t.v. and think they're cute....it's in a BENIGN way.

Now "The Rock"---he's not black---but I'd let him tear it up. No use in me lying.

And that gay singer, RICKY MARTIN. Oh yeah. I'd turn his ass straight. I know just what to do.

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Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 12:57 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LiLi,

"Chicks are so predictable."


Kola,

You are lying like a dusty rug. If Brad Pitt knocked on your door, dude would hardly have time to unzip before he was sprawled on your foyer pleading for infibulated mercy and relief.

One of the biggest differences between men and women is yawl play these mindgames with yourselves about sex.

Lemme tell yah, if a dudes finds a chick attractive, and the fellings mutual, you best believe if she bends over in front of him at a certain time and position..."HELLO"!
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Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 02:59 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

NOPE. Wrong, ABM.

I would not let Brad Pitt hit. I wouldn't.

Now, as I said, there is a white man somewhere that I probably can't resist, but I could EASILY resist Brad Pitt, and I think he's very cute and sexy.

NOW......guys who could KNOCK ON MY DOOR and hardly have time to UNZIP:

Evander Holyfield


**There's probably someone else, I just can't think right now.

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Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 08:45 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

Well there's no way I'll really know who you would/wouldn't let "hit".

But I find it INTERESTING that a woman who often seems to have such admiration of White men would be so turned off by them. I thought POWER was considered the ultimate aphrodisiac.

But there's no easy predicting who a chick'll bang.
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Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 02:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ABM, I like white men---I'm just VERY particular about which ones.

But like I was saying:

Evander Holyfield
Idris Alba
Leon
Ed Gordon
The Rock
Michael Jordan
Rapphael Saddique


Malcolm X STILL gets it via Seyonce--regularly.

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Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 02:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola: "Malcolm X STILL gets it via Seyonce--regularly."

ABM: Really? Well is there another dude in there 'channeling' with yawl? Cause I recently read somewhere that early in his life ‘X [allegedly] marked the spot’ on other men. You ever heard that 1? If so, does that conflict with your randy Ouija board activities?
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ABM,

Being a "realist"---I wouldn't be surprised if Malcolm experimented in ALL KINDS OF WAYS.

It doesn't bother me.

You have to remember....if I could "choose" my sexuality, then I would be a Lesbian.

But it doesn't work like that. I'm addicted to men's dicks and to men's bodies. I can't stand the touch of another woman--no matter how masculine she is, she still can't give me what I need. ON TOP OF THAT---infibulation makes it impossible for me to be impressed by "pussyeaters"---so I'm dependent on dick. I can't be a Lesbian no matter how much easier I feel it would be.

So, I'm not bothered by men having "experiences" (hopefully in their youth) that go in the experimentation column.

I have studied this and found out that 80% of Males experience some form of Homo-erotic exposure with other males at least ONE TIME in their lives.....such as little boys standing in a circle and comparing who's got the biggest one....or young boys grinding each other in sleeping bags.....or boys watching each other jerk off.

This doesn't necessarily mean that a person is GAY.

What matters is that he's EVERYTHING I want in a man and he's my MENTOR and hero.

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Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 02:53 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

I was mostly messing with you over X.

Hell. Considering his childhood, dude ended up involved in so much crazy stuff when he was young, the gay thing was probably bland by comparison.

I think it’s actually to the benefit of your work that you aren’t lesbian. Because a lot of sistahs and MOST brothahs would hardly give you the time of day if you were on the L-word.

But if it helps, if it were within my power, I’d “choose” for you to be lesbian too. :-)


Btw: You can include me in that 20% minority of male experiences. The only “grinding” or “comparing” I did as a kid was with girls.
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ABM, I only wanted to be a Lesbian from an "intellectual" standpoint-----to ESCAPE the pain of loving men and obsessing over whether or not that love was returned.

The problem is...I'm not gay.

So I am a staunch believer when gay people say that they didn't CHOOSE to be. I know exactly what they mean, because I definitely did not CHOOSE to be an emotional doormat for men.

I have no control over it.

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My hatred against black men....is because I love them so much.

And it feels hopeless.



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Kola: "ABM, I only wanted to be a Lesbian from an "intellectual" standpoint-----to ESCAPE the pain of loving men and obsessing over whether or not that love was returned. The problem is...I'm not gay."

ABM: Funny. We're a lot alike. I'd like to be a Vulcan from an "intellectual standpoint-----to remove a lot of the troublesome emotion from my thought processes. Problem is...I'm an Earthling.


I'm going to leave the "To be [gay] or not to be [gay](..."That is the question...") stuff be. I think SOME foks do CHOOSE it. Maybe not all...but SOME.


Kola: "My hatred against black men....is because I love them so much. And it feels hopeless.

ABM: Yes. But remember, My Dear Sister: "Between love and madness lies...Obsession." (---Calvin Klein).

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