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Kola Boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 125
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 11:52 am: | 
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Yvette Perry was lamenting that a Black Pope is not likely to be chosen, and she's probably right.
So I wanted to make her and everyone else aware that there is actually a BLACK WOMAN SAINT.
LINK:
http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/saintj84.htm
What a fascinating life she had.
SAINT JOSEPHINE BAKHITA
Born in Darfur (Olgossa) SUDAN..Josephine was sold by Arabs into slavery at 9 and purchased by Italians in Khartoum. She was taken to Italy, and after much hardship, became a Nun. In 1978, she was Canonized by the Catholic church as a "Saint". Even today in Italy, she is called "Mother Moretta" (Our Black Mother). She died a SAINT...with 114 slits cut into the flesh of her body from her slave youth. *As usual, the Italian photo above has been "lightened". Click photo to read more about Africa's great Sainted Mother.
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Nadine Holden
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 11:55 am: |
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Kola, this is really amazing.
I am Catholic and I've never once heard of this woman. Thank you!!
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ABM
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 2298
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 11:58 am: |
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Kola,
No disrespect. But my interpretation of Josephine's bio is she was made a saint primarily because she was a 'good kneegrow slave' to the 'right people'. |
kola@aalbc.com
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Post Number: 532
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 12:04 pm: |
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Of course you're right, ABM.
What black woman WASNT in the 1920's and 1930's.
But as well, her life story gives you a great deal more information about how INTERNATIONAL our suffering has been as Black People.
For instance, Italians were purchasing SLAVES from Sudanese fruit produce markets in the 1920's.
Do you see why I am the way I am?
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Xosha
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I have known all about Saint Josephine since birth. We discuss her in South Africa.
There is a photograph of her backside with the whipping marks in it on display at a museum in Johannesburgh. She died very old with these cuts in her backside and the scar tissue.
She was rare to go from a slave to a Saint. Most Italian slaves die in the streets penniless, but it is said that the Italians treat their black slaves better than the Saudis or the other Arabs. The Arbicos are brutal with black slaves, especially women.
I believe Sudan still has slavery. A sister Mende Nazer escaped from a family in London and has a book out now called SLAVE.
Good thread, Kola.
You need to be more serious and stop the foolishness bold one.
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ABM
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 2300
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 12:12 pm: |
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Kola,
I agree.
I suppose I was indirectly questioning how or whether we should appreciate Josephine sainthood other than at least we know something about who she was - which was RARE for Black women of that epoch. |
Nyibol
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Username: Africanqueen
Post Number: 40
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 11:56 pm: |
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Yes Xosha, slavery still exists in SUDAN even today! I'm from there also and now am hella scared to go back for this reason. The US has no slavery so am safe here; at least nobody acts on it anymore. Only God knows the reason for the black man's continuos suffering on earth. It's a shame we're so hated!
Kola, thank you for putting this up. A true Christian knows God even in her time of suffering. God was our only breakfast, lunch and dinner when I walked thousands of miles and spended months in the refugee camp with my fellow Dinkas and nuers, etc. Josephine's story really gives hope to live fruitfully, which is what we are, a bunch of good people. We show true God's creation and so the arab hate us for it. And am not saying everyone else isn't good; but everyone that hate us hates God's creation.
You know I've always wondered why the name, "Sudan" sounds so Arabian.... and I've heard it use to have a different name, I have no idea of but I've heard it's in the bible. The arabs must have came in and erased that name completely and now they're erasing the blacks too. I really don't like being called Sudanese for that reason. I need a new name...
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Nyibol
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Username: Africanqueen
Post Number: 41
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 12:10 am: |
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At least when slavery is finally over, no black child in Sudan will be called a slave anymore! Slavery would be a history no good man could ever be proud of. It is the work of the devil.
Josephine said, "I was bought for a reason, and I would kiss the hand of my master if I saw him again............" In the future, the slave will rule all of Sudan. I always say that God brought me and all the survivers to America, Europe and many many other parts of the world for a reason. We're the only people capable of openning the human eye. We're the answer like Josephine openned the eyes of white people in Italy. God has his reasons for our existense all over the world. We're openning the eyes of our masters to see God's work at a very close look. |
Kola Boof
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Post Number: 141
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 01:46 am: |
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Hi Nyibol.
What wonderful posts! You are so right about GOD's purpose for us.
Even though I am crazy with anger---because I hurt so deeply inside----I know that God has a great purpose for me someday and that I am in training for it. No matter how crazy or off key I am, I feel the power of God protecting and guiding me---and I am not Christian, although I believe in Christ and Mohammed and all the Bible stories, which I read quite often.
I believe that GOD has led you and I to be sisters in this life. I had a dream two nights ago that we were inside a big, beautiful home laughing and talking and eating the white paste candy that comes in the jar in Sudan. Do you remember?
Nyibol,
South Sudan was originally called "CUSH"---which is mentioned in the bible countless times.
Your tribe, The Dinka, are a "Cushitic" tribe. So is my mother's tribe, The Oromo. The Nuer, Shilluk and most South Sudanese tribes are CUSHITIC.
Middle-Sudan to the North was called "Nubia" and of course is the land of the Nuba and Nubian people.
The NUBIANS are actually made of 5 ancient nations---Wawat, Iretjet, Yam, Kush and Medijay. Just as with you and I, the cataracts of the Nile decide their dialect and affiliations.
Kush and Cush are the same.
This is why you have seen me refer to our tribes and people as "Nubians" and "Cushites" instead of Sudanese.
The word "SUDAN" is Arabic for....Land of the Blue Blacks.....obviously because the Nubians and Cushite tribes are CHARCOAL black people.
The word "EGYPT" is Arabic for "land of the Blacks".
The word Aithiop is Greek and translates to Ethiopia which is the female pronounciation. The word Ethiopia means "She is Black; She is Beautiful" and the word male version AITHIOP means "The Sons Are Black".
Before the outsiders named Africa---we called ourselves "The Kiss of God's Wife" in all our various languages.
People think that Cush and Nubia are in ETHIOPIA (the country)....because they do not realize that in biblical times, the entire continent of Africa was called "ETHIOPIA" and the Sudan was the great Nilotic civilization of Biblical Ethiopia.
What was Axum Empire is now the nation of Ethiopia.
YES....I love Saint Josephine, and I have started a FUND years ago, Nyibol, to raise money to create a MUSEUM about her life.
I also would like to Produce a movie about her life with Alek Wek to star in the role. So far, I have had no luck in getting the project off the ground---but the more famous I become, the easier it will be for me to get financing to get a film like this made. Even if it's for t.v.
People say that Alek Wek can't act---but I could teach her and I would direct it and write it. It would be a movie like nothing they've seen before.
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kola@aalbc.com
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Username: Kola
Post Number: 537
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 02:07 am: |
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Nyibol--
The SPLA chapter in Washington in D.C. is campaigning to STOP ME from being recognized with a medal in Omaha this weekend.
They are saying that I'm an Arab, a whore, a feminist and that I'm now Black American--not Sudanese.
I have had to send messages to Dr. Garang himself asking that he come to my defense, but nobody knows whether he's in Kenya, Europe or Egypt.
There will be a ceremony at which I will honored---but the MEN are saying that I should be honored WITHOUT getting the medal.
They also learned that I was being presented with the warrior SWORDS--which they think is blasphemous against manhood.
Please pray for me as I defend myself against a myriad of lies and jealousy.
It is because I'm a WOMAN...and I am very sad and sick inside knowing the DEPTH our men's sexism.
We cannot deny the evil of sexism in African men. It is horrendous.
I had forgotten how they can be.
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N Janene McGee
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 03:19 am: |
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I am glad there is a Black Saint, but once again, if we didn't hear it from our own, we probably wouldn't have heard of it. I was surprised to learn that there were African Popes (although not for a long time). The media acts like it's never happened before!!!!
Check out this link:
http://archive.blackvoices.com/articles/daily/bw20031118pope.asp
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N Janene McGee
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Post Number: 22
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 03:22 am: |
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Another African Popes link:
http://www.nbccongress.org/black-catholics/african-popes.asp |
Nyibol
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Username: Africanqueen
Post Number: 43
Registered: 02-2005
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Kola,
My mother still brings that candy to the house, so I know what you're talking about. Somewhere, somehow she found it and it is the best tasting sweet in the world. I also love that fruit called "balla" but I don't remember eating it here in the US, but that's my other favorite from Sudan.
I'm deeply sorry about the men of Sudan and their campaign to stop you. Yes, don't forget about the sexism, it is much worst in Africa. The Dinka man is not happy unless he got what he wants and that's to rule over his wife and his land. Men have so much control over the women, that women could only learn to take it and call it their culture that they embrace. That is why the men are so controlling is because they're taught this way, to control their wives. It's obvious that the men already here go over to the refugee camps and bring the girls back here to marry them. And well usually, when the girls find the amount of freedom bestowed for them here; when they learn that they can file devorce papers, they do.
Kola just as well, I don't see why these people can't honor you. You know all the facts and you have fought as a woman. I don't know a single woman from my country who has done that other than musicians who have no choice but to sing because they couldn't really fight. Their arguments do not make any sense to me at all. You should be honored for the positive things you have done and continue to do for this country and nothing else. You're a hero who so happens to be a woman and I wish they knew that.
Earlier I was just thinking about what I would say about you to someone if I were to and I thought about some of the following, quotes,
"Kola Boof is something truly special. She knows all the facts about this world and I have learned allot about my country the Sudan from her. Put up a debate with this woman about anything you disagree with her upon and she will nail you down to the ground, because she knows it all."
"Anyone that fights for me and for my freedom in my country and in the world, is truly my hero! I don't care if she is Arab or American. This woman put up a good fight for me and this is why I honor her!"
"When I was a little girl, I wished I could become a woman super hero that never dies so I could go into those bushes and scare every single hating soldier away from the innocent women and children. As the war continued throughout my life, I wanted to just break in there and stop all the foolishness of mankind, all the killing, all the politics... and I often had this dream until I was a teenager. Now that I'm an adult, I came to find out that there is a real woman super hero that is not me and her name is Kola. This was probably my only favorite cartoon show and I only saw it through my mind."
"When I read about Kola, I did not care about anything else, I was just proud of her and the fight she put up for me and my country. No one have talked to me about the evilness going on in Sudan better than she has."
"All I could say to Kola is, "Thank you; truly you are one super woman hero!"
Kola, people judge a book by its cover and this is what these men are doing to you. They're not paying not even one single attention to you because they're refusing to open the pages. Kola, you make me proud to be Sudanese over and over again. I first knew about you when I read about the FOX news interview edition. They had the cover of you topless on your book but they really didn't show the whole picture. I was very hesitent at first, didn't want to continue scrolling down but then I thought to myself, "find out why a girl from my country is not dressed to the American public." So as I continued to reading about you and your answers to the interviewer, I thought to myself, "WOW!" You've really educated me about the war. And of course, I came to learn about the reason for going topless on the cover of your book.
Only the people who really look inside the heart will learn something about another person in this world. Sudanese men are slowly coming to learn about their women. But I really hope this slowness will fasten for you when you receive your award. Please ask these people which Sudanese woman have done what you have for them to treat you this way? I don't think that the way you've lived your life should be interfering with the award because first of all, that is not what it is for. It is like the Fantasia situation when they judge her for her looks and not for the good voice and heart she has. And of course to me, she is one of the most beautiful people in America. I'm sure that if you were a man, these people wouldn't even think about the word "whore, American" OR WHATEVER. I seriously wouldn't know how to take a gift if it's not truly given you know. I also never really give something unless I really meant to give it. I think that everything should come from the heart and if these people are doubting you, it is hard to know whether to even take it. But I also grab what is rightfully mine and remember, you're a woman and for once, you deserve it and you must take what is rightfully yours when it is given to you. I also never take a gift unless MY HEART (not anyone else's) is receiving it so if I'm not feeling it, I give it back. This is a gift that your heart truly deserves and you should take it. I can care less what campaign they're putting up so you must take it when it is given to you.
Please when you receive this award, remember to say the reasons why you deserve it. I will be here to cry with you when you get that award. And if in any case you don't get it, remember that in my heart it is all trully yours. Remember to stand by all us women who aren't the ruler of any kind. And I refuse to listen to any elderly woman who thinks her son is better than me because I know a woman who is better than him and I am as well just as good as he is. You go sista! It's really late, I must go to bed because I have a long day ahead of me. I will pray for you, God bless you! |
kola@aalbc.com
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Username: Kola
Post Number: 538
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 10:30 am: |
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Nyibol, thank you.
I await word from the Commanders and the Reverends who initially voted to award me. I have presented my case this morning...and I AM SUDANESE and have done what my male detractors could not do---I secured guns and ammunition for the army. About $700 million worth.
True, the other soldiers don't have friends like Prime Minister Netanyahu and they haven't slept with most of the Arab rulers of Sudan and Egypt---but so what.
I kicked ass from the locations that a woman was allowed to occupy.
I am not ashamed and my deeds have brought much victory to the South.
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Yvette Perry
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Post Number: 114
Registered: 01-2005
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Maybe not a Black pope, but here is a Breakdance for the Pope: http://thelastminute.typepad.com/blog/breakdance_for_the_pope.mov
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Musewrite
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Registered: 05-2005
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There are other Black Saints.
St. Moses the Black
St. Martin De Porres
St. Charles Lwanga
St. Benedict the Moor,
St. Augustine
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