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kola@aalbc.com
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Username: Kola
Post Number: 508
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 06:21 pm: | 
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I just got back from going into town.
How HIGH is this damned gas going to go??
I just can't believe it costs this much to drive!
What is causing this problem?
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Vivian Stephens
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Username: Heavensquill
Post Number: 5
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 11:06 pm: |
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Bush is back in the the White House, which is why the rates didn't spike until after the elections...so, there is no further need for him and his oil rich cronies to keep prices down. He can't be re-elected!!! |
Nyibol
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 11:15 pm: |
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Move to Texas, it's allot cheaper here ) But people still are complaining, lol. |
kola@aalbc.com
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Username: Kola
Post Number: 512
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 12:07 am: |
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Hi Vivian!!
LOL. Girl, you didn't mince any words getting down to business on that one.
BUSH is killing us now, cause he CAN.
I just find this gas problem so annoying and false. Not to mention astoundingly ridiculous.
How are people expected to feed this economy when they can barely AFFORD..to go to work?
Damn.
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Chris Hayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 1076
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 11:46 am: |
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The last lying justification for the invasion of Iraq put to rest--"We'll have cheap gas!"
It will be $3.00 a gallon before the year is out and will ultimately stabilize around $5.00 |
Vivian Stephens
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Username: Heavensquill
Post Number: 6
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 10:42 am: |
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Maybe the idea of gas being too expensive for JOE AVERAGE is part of a larger plan...make it a commodity that only the monied can afford, thereby, eliminating the poorest from the pool of eligible workers. How can one vie for a job that one can't afford to get to? |
kola@aalbc.com
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Username: Kola
Post Number: 523
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 11:04 am: |
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Wow Vivian. Never thought about it like that, but trust me---you're making more sense than you know. I've always seen "mandatory car insurance" and all those type of LAWS as part of the same plan to keep Poor People inundated in Bills---similar to how the WELFARE system is set up to keep women with children on it.
Chris--I think you're right. In fact, I FEAR that you're right.
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ABM
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 2286
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 11:34 am: |
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I share some of the Machiavellian suspicions about gas prices too. (The place to start would be to review the profits on the 10-K and 10-Q reports of the petroleum distributors over the next year.)
But there could be an upside to the rising petroleum prices: If people are less able to drive, maybe they will become more motivated to build, fund and support their more immediate communities. |
Vivian Stephens
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Username: Heavensquill
Post Number: 7
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 01:42 pm: |
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We have known for decades that the oil supplies/reserves were declining, yet have not truly made efforts to develop alternative fuel sources. How can we put men on the moon, etc, and not have the where-with-all to accomplish this? Instead we have kept guzzling gas/oil as though there was no end to the supply. Sure, now there is talk of hydrogen fuel cells; but we, the masses, will not likely be able to afford these once they are available. We (AA), are (as always) hardest hit by under-employment/unemployment, who among us can bear the cost of building in our communities? And why would "they" care to? |
ABM
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 2292
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 02:56 pm: |
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Oil is the life's blood of the world's economies.
The Oil & Gas looby is - next to the drug/pharmaceuticals lobby - the most influential agent manipulating America policy/laws.
There are COUNTLESS petroleum-based products, the majority of which FEW of us can imagine, much less recite.
As long as Oil predominates all of how we live, the issue of alternative fuels will remain relatively mute...unless some cataclysm occurs that FORCES us to use other energy/material sources. |
Delores
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 06:30 pm: |
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Kola,
Have you ever read "The Working Poor: Invisible in America"? It talks alot about what you are mentioning about a system created to keep people poor and in debt. It's REALLY good. It's in the format of a case study where the author follows the lives of (i think) 6 or 7 families who are the "working poor".
~Delores |
abm
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Username: abm
Post Number: 2488
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 06:43 pm: |
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Delores,
I haven't read "The Working Poor". But I saw the author discuss his book a few weeks ago on CSPAN II. He provided fascinating, sobering accounts of how many people are trapped in cycles poverty.
The most interesting thing I found about what the author said was poverty is often an ambiguous confluence of personal mishaps/mistakes and economic/social/institutional impediments that make remedying the problems all the more complex/difficult.
I often think we are trapped in a system whereby the only way we can beat the devil is to become him. |
Delores
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 09:12 pm: |
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That is exactly what the book is about. It read more like a biography of several people rather than a sociological study. I really mean it when I say this book is GOOD. some parts almost made me cry. It is very true that poverty is a combination of institutions that don't help give people relief when they face a personal crisis (illness, childcare etc.) and this keeps them trapped in poverty. I would recommend this book to anyone. It covers all types of "working poor" from children in Anacostia, D.C. to immigrants worked to the bone at migrant farms.Very moving.
~Delores |
kola
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Username: kola
Post Number: 691
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 10:58 pm: |
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Hi Delores.
Please forgive me for saying hurtful things to you on the other thread.
I'm really sorry and I don't mean to hurt your feelings. I just have the problem that's typical of Africans---"bluntness", just assuming that people over here already UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY my acculturation and the "standards" of MY SOCIETY.
Sort of like AA's just assume that everybody adheres to the one drop rule worldwide and the way their mouths drop when they get to Africa and the people "say things". We ALL just assume that we're just the same.
As for the book...I will try to check it out as soon as I have free time...which is always never right now.
In the middle of posting here----I'm a full time mom, writing a new novel, doing constant interviews and getting ready for a tour....AND....trying to "chat" with guys.
My email is kolaboof_email@yahoo.com if you ever want to get in touch.
I'm very proud of you, sister (I never went to school), and I care what happens to you and that you have me for support if you should ever need it.
I'm not American and I'm not perfect, but I am chronically honest when you need the truth and I can be trusted....and...I know how to be a good sister.
I disagree with your comments about "black women" and why so many of them are alone....but I also can sense a genuine willingness and desire inside you...to ACCEPT and be ACCEPTED.
We all need love, and again, I am sorry to have said mean things to you.
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Mahoganyanais
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Username: Mahoganyanais
Post Number: 346
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 09:51 am: |
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One of the local grocery stores here offer gas discounts based on your purchases (10 cents off per gallon for every $50 you spend, or something like that, and you can let it accrue.). Well, I held onto to my savings until it got to $1.70 off per gallon, let my tank run down to "E" and filled her up for less than a THIRD of what I normally pay.
YEA! Had to share. |
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