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Troy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 12:38 pm: | 
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I'm aware of a proposal for a new high school whose goal, amoung other things, is to help young people become politically active.
One of the suggested names was "Hip-Hop High School" aside from the alliterative appeal. Does a name like this for a high school generate any other thoughts?
As anside
Now that I think about it: Given the poor performance of the vast majority of high schools serving our Black kids around the country and knowing a large number of those schols are named "Martin Luther King, Jr. High School"; If seems to me one should avoid any school called MLK, like the plague -- what a shame.
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ABM
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Troy,
My best response to this subject is to borrow a simple cliche: "Beauty is what Beauty does."
If the kids are learnin', you could call it "Hollywood Hooker High" for all I care.
But I agree with and share your disappointment over the sad irony of how seldom MLK schools live up to their brillant and learned namesake. |
anonymous
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Those schools were doing bad before they were renamed after Dr. King. Just changing the name on the outside of a building doesn't mean those inside the building have changed at all.
Given this logic then students should avoid schools after other people, locations, cities, counties, etc. too. Agreed, it's all a shame. |
Cynique
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It has also been noted that any street, avenue or boulevard named after MLK will be in an area that is anything but nonviolent. Sad. |
Troy
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ABM: Agreed, the most important thing is that the children learn.
However, how to you think Hip-Hop or Hooker High would look on a transcript or resume? Do you think Harvard's admissions would view the student without bias?
Do you think the school would be subject to public ridicule? What assumption could be made about the educators that would name a school "Hip-Hop High"?
Anonymous -- Yes, I believe public schools should be avoided in the vast majority of cases. They simply don't work for our children. MLK just struck me as an ironic twist when thinking about a school's name.
Cynique yeah i think there is joke which talks about the country's MLK Blvd's. The MLK High School in my neck of the woods has a terrible reputation. However the MLK Blvd in my neighborhood has been on the road to recovery for a few years and is getting better everyday.
peace
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ABM
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Troy,
I think if a poor, ghetto Black kid from "Hip Hop" or "Hollywood Hooker" High earns a 4.0 GPA and +1400 SAT, an enraptured Harvard's admissions officer would probably carry her to her first class on his back.
And schools like Harvard are so deluged by the myriad applications that they receive from grads of the boilerplate 'good' prep schools, if one has the goods to back themselves up, graduating from a school with an 'eclectic' name might actually be a plus...if for no other reason but Harvard may be interested in a smart kid from a school named after either what is currently the newest, most vibrant musical genre or a school named for "the world's oldest profession".
Moreover, we put WAY too much on the back of public schools. It is amazing to me that we can expect great schools to be engendered from rundown neighborhoods.
Schools - whether they are public, private, Catholic or even 'Martian' - are only as goods the communities that support them. Show me a great school, and, more times than not, I'll show you a great community. But show me kids who can't/don't read/write, and I'll show you parents/guardians/mentors/communities who also can't/don't read/write. |
Troy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 08:26 am: |
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Hey ABM:
High schools suffer from grade inflation and Harvard has more applicants with 1400 SAT scores than they know what to do with. I'm just not convinced a school called Hip-Hop woud be taken seroursly by all those responsible for making the admissions decision.
Besides who needs the uncessary distractions from the media. These students I suspect will be placed under an unnecessary amount of public scrunity driven solely on the name of the school.
According to the the book "No Excuses" there are several example of schools (all charter schools) which do very will in poor, minority, underserved communities. Admittedly these schools exhert a prodigious effort, but they are also not subject to restricitive and crippling union rules or public school mandates.
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ABM
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Troy,
I agree +1400 SAT’s applicants are a dime-a-dozen for the inestimable Crimson & Crème. The average SAT of those admitted into Harvard is about 1470.
But it is widely acknowledged that the SAT scores of those African Americans admitted into the most selective schools are on average 200 points below those of Whites/Asians. Therefore, I’d bet you a ‘grip’ the average SAT score Black people admitted into Harvard is well below 1474.
So - all other things being equal - show me a poor, young Black woman who applies to Harvard with a +1400 SAT, and I’ll show you a poor, young Black person who DEFINITELY matriculates into Harvard. Because the admissions people will be so impressed that someone of her disadvantaged socio-economic background (and let's face it: Her RACE) could score so well on the vaunted/daunting (and "culturally biased") SAT, they’ll fall all over themselves to admit her, if for no other reason but to score credit for admitting into Harvard this brilliant new mind from..."the hood".
Heck! With someone of her academic prowess, her high school’s funky name would likely add to, not detract from, the process of admitting her.
And you gotta know the young woman, Harvard and...especially "Hollywood Hooker High" would revel in the media attention. 
The Charter School concept is worthwhile. I have a friend who teaches in Charter that consistently out-performs most other schools in the area. And we should indeed support those that do an admirable job.
But ultimately, Charters, no matter how well they perform, are doomed to be more a novelty than a real, far-reaching pedagogical alternative. Because the politicians, the business community, city school counsels, teacher unions, (Hell, even the school janitors!) have too much to lose by relinquishing some of their power, influence and MONEY to the control of those who have the unmitigated gall to want to..."Horror-of-Horrors!"...educate our kids. |
Chris Hayden
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They should skip the name Hip Hop High School. It doesn't sound serious and could be the source of fights. You know how kids are.
Give it a nice serious name. They can nickname it what they want to. |
ABM
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We get too caught up in semantics. They could call the place "Psychoalphadiscobetabioaquadoloop High" (Actually, now that I think about it, that would be kinda kewl.) for all I care so long as the young Brothers/Sister can ante-up on their GPA's and standardized exam scores.
After all, as was said before, scores of schools name after MLK are just dreadful. |
Cynique
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Naming a school Hip-Hop high is just like naming your daughter Shequeeka or your son DeQuinoyus. These are red-flags for the subconscious minds those in charge. |
Chris Hayden
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ABM:
What about Coon High? How about Lazy N*** High? How about Liverlip Splib High? I know, you'll say, "Well that's too far"--at least I hope you will.
The name of a school does set the tone for how that school will be perceived by parents, teachers, community, etc.
How would you like to be a kid on a bus and some kids get on from another school? You have to think about this. What if some kids from across town go to a dance, run into some kids from "Hip Hop" high and start something--if you don't think something so small can result in something serious happening you must never have been a young man. Why take the chance when you can just give the school a nice serious name?
Your position is indefensible. |
ABM
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Chris,
Were to continue to rebut your comments, I fear we would very likely travel a road that we have gone before. Suffice it, to say that when it comes to kids learning to read/count/write, I don't give a @#$% what it takes. With so many of our kids failing, dropping out, doping up, doing crime...then time, I don't think we have enuff time to get mired in the frivolity of the name of a school (For Christ Sake!).
Hey, call the thing what you want. So long as when you are done, the kid can grow into productive/contributing members of society. If that end is achieved, whatever name you used will be fine with me. |
ABM
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And BTW, Cynique,
Are the names "John" and "Elizabeth" inherently 'superior' to those of "Shequeeka" and "DeQuinoyus"?
Of have YOU been trained (by you-know-who) to feel they are? <<wink!>> |
Cynique
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ABM, as names go, in effect, Elizabeth and John just might be superior to Shequeeka and DeQuinoyus because of the what they can connote to the powers-that-be, who are often tradionalists. Nobody said life was fair. |
Carey
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ABM, you are my guy but (I like to do this every so often so the crowd does not think we are tag-teaming) I disagree on your statistic on the SAT scores of blacks admited to Harvard. Do you care to support that? I don't mean to step on your toes or back you up but I believe your "source", not you of course, is mistaken. |
ABM
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Carey,
This is an interesting direction that this discussion has detoured into. But okay...I’ll bite!
First, Thanks!
Because there’s no quicker way to gain credibility for one’s opinion than after someone else has...called you out. Below are links that support the comments I previously expressed.
http://www.arthurhu.com/98/07/river.htm
http://www.personal.psu.edu/staff/n/x/nxh7/CourseFiles/Spring2002/Edpsy555PaperO nSATBias.htm
http://www.studentsreview.com/MA/Harvard_University.html
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/nj/taylor2002-12-24.htm
I concede I referred to the average SAT spread between Blacks/Whites for all Ivy League schools, not just Harvard. If you are aware of the difference specific to Harvard, please advise.
But note that in my responses to Troy, I was referring to the likelihood of the admittance of a POOR Black girl from "THE HOOD" who earns a +1400 and a 4.0 GPA into Harvard. I was NOT referring to ALL Black Harvard applicants; many - if not most of whom - enjoy privileged/advantaged socio-economic backgrounds very similar to their White/Asian peers.
Since Harvard considers both an applicants race and socio-economic in it selection process, a Black person from a disadvantaged background would enjoy some preference. So, if that person has grades/SAT’s comparable to those of White/Asian and/or more affluent background, his/her admittance is virtually assured.
So as I originally argued: If a black girl who grows up in the ruff-n-tumble of California’s Compton; NYC’s the Bronx or Chicago’s Westside and STILL manages to earn a +1400 and a 4.0 GPA; all other things being fairly equal, she will MOST DEFINITELY be admitted into Harvard. (And she might even get some scholarship money 2-boot).
Carey, I’d bet YOUR ‘sack’ on that. HAHAHA!!! |
Cynnara Collins
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This thread is funny.
I agree with Cynique. I wouldn't name my damn kid Shaquensheay unless I was trying to give her "baggage" to go along with that black skin.
Some black people just want attention.
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ABM
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 10:56 am: |
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Cynique/Cynnara,
Hmmmm???
Well now. Why don't we obay AWL dah massah's wishes?
* Maybe we should not don Afros or locks?
* Or maybe the wearing of kente cloths AND dishekis should be outlawed?
* Or maybe we should be prohibited from eating neckbones and collard greens?
And yeah, I agree 'locks', 'kente cloths' and 'dishekis' are NOT original African American stylings/garbs. But to me, the origins or its authenticity of one's personal styling is not utterly important.
This is really about how much others - who are RARELY considerate of how we think/feel - should dictate how we choose to represent ourselves. |
Cynique
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Everybody is rewarded or penalized by the choices they make. That's the name of the game. Nobody is stopping us from choosing how we represent ourselves. Blacks can dress anyway they choose, and give their kids any name they choose. They should just be prepared to accept that others will choose to attach a certain image to such choices, and will respond in a way which they believe is in their own best interest. And don't forget that your precious hip-hop community chooses to diss people who are different from them. |
Chris Hayden
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The problem with these names is that they don't mean anything. The European names mean something. African names. Muslim names. They all mean something. These made up names mean nothing. What the hell is a Shaneequa or a Tyquon?
I do not hold it against the kids--this was some ignorant adult putting together a bunch of phonetic sounds that sounded good to them--but then what was the adult taught?
I think we need to stop talking about "we" this and "the black community" that in some of these situations--I will bet that most of the parents giving kids these names live in the inner city and are from the lower end of the economic scale--face it these are people folks who post on this site have little contact with and no power to reward or punish for their behavior.
The "black community" is separated by location and class. |
ABM
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I agree that many of the newer AA names appear a bit pretentious. And some are, to my sensibilities, downright laughable.
But others are quite creative, even entertaining.
I understand and appreciate some of the motivation behind the pseudo-African naming phenomenon. Many of us seek to distinguish ourselves by discarding the notions of our ‘oppressors’ and donning those that appear more akin to our African heritage. One’s name can be a clear/immediate/profound method of achieving such distinction.
And yes, most of us have no idea what is/not an authentic African name. But should our ignorance of our full heritage dissuage from even ATTEMPTING to indulge it?
And others choose names to more closely reflect their current lives and/or some fantasy or some desire for themselves and for their children. I find that some such names to be quite inspiring and poignant (e.g., Destiny, Future, Faith, etc.).
No matter what we choose to call ourselves, we should NOT allow others to casually qualify/disqualify us or our Sistahs/Brothahs based simply on a name, especially when most of us didn't even have the option to name ourselves. |
Chris Hayden
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ABM:
The namees don't MEAN anything. They are made up names. May as well name the kids, Mud, Pork, Bone, or maybe Xxlbr or Flbrnik or anything you made up. And, as much as I would like to suport you in the name biz, all of us alive today have had the luxury to name ourselves anything we want, Akbar Muhammad, Sun Ra, Sister Souljah (whose name does mean something) Dr. Funkenstein--whatever.
When you lay a made up, means nothing name on a kid, you are saying that he or she is some kind of thing--an it.
I remember when we were in school and we were looking up our names, and we found out what they meant, "beautiful" "lion like" "brave", we got a lift. Even when folks adopted Arabic or African names, we'd ask, what does it mean? They MEAN something.
When the kid goes to see what his name means and finds out his whacked out silly parent just made it up, what is he to think?
Are you named Tyquon or Shaquille? Have you named your kids any of those names? I bet you haven't.
Others don't have to casually qualify/disqualify us or our Sistahs and Brothers, I and even you will--because usually a Shaneequa acts and dresses like one, or you expect one to.
It is becoming another dividing line. When you hear one of those names, you see cheap gold jewelry, gum popping, fake fur coats, bunch of gold in the mouth, and all that that goes with it. And don't bring up those idiot rappers, circus clowns dress ridiculous and make a lot of money, too. But nobody tries to go on a job interview dressed as one.
Jeez, wake up and get in the real world, man! |
Yvette
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Hello all,
I tried not to enter this debate. But I strongly agree with Chris, Cynnara, and Cynique. It does not make sense to name a child something that will cause him or her grief the rest of his life. My brother worked in a childcare environment in an economically disadvantaged area in the south for awhile. He left because he could not deal with the hopelessness of dealing with kids having kids and giving them names such as Marijuana, etc. In the particular case when he tried to talk to the girl about why she would name her child Marijuana and not just Mary or some such sensible name, the girl just laughed and said that she liked Marijuana better. And then had the nerve to insist that everyone call the child Marijuana, instead of shortening it to Mary. Now what do you think that child's prospects are to be taken seriously as she gets older? Unless she takes it upon herself to legally change her name, I guarantee you she won't be taken seriously by anyone, black or white. |
ABM
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Folks,
I think Shakespeare's Romeo Juliet is applies here: "A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet."
I will share with you something...personal.
My given name is VERY unique. So unique that there is to my knowledge only one other person on the planet who shares my exact name and...even he was named after me.
It can probably be best characterized some Spanish and pseudo-African strange blend.
Now I grew up(in "the hood", po', etc.) and attended school with MANY "Gregory's", "Kevin's", "Calvins", "Derricks", "Anthony's", "Henry's". So, of course, when even any attendance or roll call was taken in school, you can imagine I was often singled-out to be the butt of mispronunciation, mistaken/intentional. And it’s amazing how people would become so flummoxed by a name that they forget all basic reading conventions.
And now I have more wealth, am better educated and healthier that ALL of them combined (Well, at least those who are still alive.)
I learned to make the uniqueness of my name into something very positive, even marketable. My name has become an indelible living/breathing part of who/what I was/am. And every time someone recites it, I am the only person whom they can possibly be referring to.
That has, in effect made me virtually unforgettable.
See, my name for me a character builder. It made me feel as though I was truly the only one alive who was exactly like me. And so I could craft not only a name, but make my own namesake, my own standard of manhood that was unique, discrete from everyone else.
And the better I did in school, work, business...life, the more esteem was afforded to this funny name of mine. And now is an instant source recognition and respect, buoyed by the person I became.
Now, that name that once inspired snickers, people now call "heroic". Now, that silly name that causes respect/regard among people who know me...because it is ALL MINE.
Yvette, thanks for entering the fray. I think you would agree the example you recount is an extreme one. First, I suspect that most responsible adults, such as yourself, with try to shield her from having to deal with what that name implies, until she reaches a stage in her life where she can make a choices about what to call herself. However, I think it is the reasons WHY a mother and what type of mother that would name a child that, not the name itself, that you and your peers should be MOST concern with.
How many of us would/did scoff/laugh at the names of a young Denzel, a young Oprah, a young Wesley, a young O’Shay (Ice Cube), and a young Colin. Probably A few. How many of us would laugh at them now? Probably VERY few.
Folks. It is not the name you are given that is important. It is the name you MAKE! |
Cynique
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"Colin" is a very old Irish name and there are a lot of Colins around. "Wesley" is also a common name, and "Orphah" is from the bible. And being named "O'Shay" might be why Ice Cube goes by his stage name. Demi Moore named her daughters "Rumer", "Scout", and "Tallelulah"; something you can get away with when you're rich.
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ABM
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Cynique,
I guess it depends on WHERE you hail from.
I never knew any "Black" Irish where I grew up. And if any of them had been named similarly to a prominent part the digestive track, he would have been laughed at out loud.
A Wesley in my "hood" would have instantly been tabbed queer, and (PHYSICALLY) made to prove he was otherwise.
Orphah, in the Bible...OK. Oprah in my nape of the neck, would have been called "Okrah"...til she lost her natural mind. |
Anonymous
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Powell's parents were from Jamaica. And, the writer Colin Channer is from there, too. It might be a common name there.
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Anonymous
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A critical and relevant piece of your arguement has been overlooked or consciously omitted. ABM the fact that YOU"VE made a "name" out of/from your name dispite it's admitted unusualness or nonconforming sound, does not address the issue of preconceptions and their "immediate" ramifications and/or consequences bestowed upon those whom can not immediately correct the uninformed because of matters "out of their control". |
Crystal
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ABM: I think you’re talking about something different than the other posters. Kids will always find something to make fun of someone about. Names are a favorite. Those mean knuckleheads I went to school with called me Crystal Ball – hated it! Admissions officers at these universities are looking for short cuts in whittling down the list of 100’s of students with the same numbers. “Sheneequa Johnson” is a magnet for the red pencil.
Maybe the folks considering naming a school Hip-Hop High are thinking the name may generate interest among the students. Just sounds like another red pencil magnet to me. Until, like you ABM, the school makes a favorable name for itself.
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Anonymous
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Also, each unusaul name will summon a different types of reactions/preconception, therefore the responses will be different. Consequently without knowing your name we can not adequately compare your dilima and your subsequent victory over it, too one that may invoke a different kind of deriding and/or prejudgement. |
Yvette
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ABM,
"My peers" and I are VERY concerned with the sad state of affairs in the African American community. Namely, teen pregnancy; drugs; violence; police brutality; and any other social ill that faces African Americans in this country. But we were not talking about that in this thread, I think we were talking about NAMES. Although, I do understand your point that there are reasons behind why people do what they do. But what can we do to STOP them? If you know the answer, please share. |
Troy
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Yvette: this thread was about names. Please feel free to start a thread on any other subject you feel is more relevant. That is the purpose of the board. I actually hope discussions on the board generate discussions off the board and ultimately lead into action. In some cases, I know it has.
ABM, Cynique is right about the names. Of course ones familiarity with them may depend on where you are from but that does not make them uncommon. For example NY has a large Jamaican community and Colin is a very popular name here. Wesley is also a popular name. Most of the Wesleys I know go by the nickname of ‘Wes”. But you already know Wesley Walker, “Wes Unseld, etc. I doubt anyone in your hood would have made these men prove they were not queer.
ABM how would you like to start out life poor AND with the name “Marijuana”. I don’t know your name, but I bet you would have a little more trouble succeeding with a moniker like Marijuana (that is unless you were going into a life of rap artist or something along those lines). Everyone has the opportunity to make their name mean something – your situation while interesting is not as unique as you may feel.
But you can’t ignore the fact that your ability to make something of our name is a function of the name itself and the you cards you are dealt. As Cynnara Collins mentioned why give them the "extra baggage"? It would be plain ignorant to ignore this as being extra baggage. Now Frank Zappa can “afford” to name his child “Moon Unit” -- he has the wealth. I would not saddle a poor black child with name like that. It works both ways too Hitler was a relatively innocuous name until Adolf got a hold of it. Who is the Western world would name their child "Adolf Hitler" and what would you think of the parents?
All names mean something, even if you are the first one with it. If the name does not reflect the culture it reflects the parents proclivities or leanings. Ultimately the child may bring meaning to the name for those who know him, but to those who don’t know him all we have is the cultural component or what we think of the parents in which to consider the name. Other than an application this is all Hardvard would have to go on.
If Harvard had two poor kids to consider for admission and they both had 4.0 GPA and 1400 SAT's, are you suggesting that Haravrd would weight both students equally? If so, I think you give Harvard's admission too much credit.
However, it is worth considering: what do you think the odds are that a parent who you would name their child "Marijuana", in today's America, would ALSO provide the necessary environemnt for their child to obtain and 1400 SAT and 4.0 GPA? Do you think the odds would be greater or less than someone who named their kid "Madison"? Of course we don't Know but the your rationale for your educated guess would probably make my point.
As Cynique points out “Everybody is rewarded or penalized by the choices”. However some of us have more resources than others to recover from our poor, or to capitalize from our good choices.
Back to “Hip-Hop” High; After reading these posts I’m actually more strongly against the name of “Hip-Hop” high. Names have meaning. While I agree in principle that as long as learning is taking place the name is irrelevant. However in reality the name will draw unnecessary attention. This kind of controversy is one thing a new school, trying to get organized and attract good teachers and students does not need. Perhaps as a nickname, but not as an Official School name. Maybe in 20 years when/if Hip-Hop becomes more firmly entrenched in the culture we'll have more hip-hop highs than Martin Luther King Jr. High Schools.
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Anonymous
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Troy said:
"Names have meaning."
I submitt....That's the key. |
JustTheFacts
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What adds to all of this is that a parent makes up these weird names and spellings and then get upset when others mispronounce and misspell these names. I just don't understand naming your child after a drug, a car, a liquor, a body part, etc.
It's obvious that names have meaning otherwise we would even being having this discussion. |
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