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Troy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 10:38 am: | 
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The government spends a lot of time (and Money), concerning itself with race. Is this they should continue to do? |
Kola
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 11:49 am: |
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There's nothing the government can do about race...but advance the causes of the White side.
Blacks in America must truly find a way to instill within their children...a sense of Black identity. One that is not to be compromised. Just as Whites benefit from worldwide from a SHARED WHITENESS....blacks do not, mainly because they want to "transcend" color--which is not only impossible, but evil.
Color should be appreciated and celebrated. Every single race of man has been given a beautiful, extraordinary coloring worthy of praise and adoration. For as much as Linda found me to be hateful towards her--I think of her as a beautiful woman. I like her color. But I also FEAR IT. She refuses to acknowledge world realities, which would help her to understand why.
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Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 02:02 pm: |
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Why not? If American can set aside 89 billion dollars to re build Iraq, then why not designate some funds to eliminate the conditions that put black children at such a disadvantage when it comes to growing up in a competitive world. Any discussion on this subject would have to include the question of reparations. Personally, I think reparations to the black race should be in the form of free college scholarships for those who need money to continue their education. |
Yukio
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 02:29 pm: |
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Yeah Cynique, we need college scholarships and we need more and better books, technology, and basic facilites in our communities. Politics is so difficult, since we're not able to get the resources. This world is so irrational, really. The only way black americans can do well is if the US is finacially stable. In order for the US to be financially stable, it must continue to exploit Africa, the Caribbean, Latin America, and the Middle East. In other words, as Americans, some black people can prosper, but as african americans, i make a difference between black americans and african americans, we are placed within a conumdrum, since our identity, at least mine, encompasses more than the african american nationality, expanding to the continent of Africa and the Diaspora, including, sorry Kola, puerto ricans, dominicans, venezulans, etc...I know Cubans that are more "black" ideologoicall than africans and african americans, but that is another conversation (i don't want Troy to get mad..lol). Yet, if we go to Miami, whoa, those cubans are different from NYC cubans...but i don't want to place all cubans nor any group into a box, so let me leave it alone. |
Kola
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 03:28 pm: |
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Yukio,
I have no problem with your identity being related to Puerto Ricans, Dominicans and Venezulans. You guys really don't understand what I've been saying.
All I have said about those people is that while they may have African blood....they HAVE NOT HONORED Africa, who is their mother--even their Indians came from us! All those cultures you mentioned...have had laws on the books to suppress and rid their veins of Black blood. Puerto Rican, Venezulan and Dominican Churches have always been "segregated"..lights in front, browns in the middle, blacks at the back. They are all just as colorist as my Egyptian grandmother. That is what I am saying--WHY would I want to give birth to those people?
No matter where the White Caucasoid goes...he honors Europe, his fatherland. He does that FIRST.
Incidentally...there are Black CAUCASOIDS in Australia. They come from East Africa, not India. The Nilotic Blacks being the parent race of the Caucasoid and the Negroid..BOTH.
You guys just cannot grasp what I'm saying.
This is what I am trying to teach. You must uphold the honor of your ROOT. Always. Then the mixing will not matter, because the offspring will have equal love and respect for the Dark Roots. Of course, the world has never done this. Blacks who mix are usually filled with self-hate to begin with...hence, Tiger Woods gets born.
While he LOOKS more black than anything...he actually goes around arguing that he's part white and saying that he relates more to Asia. Now why would I want him for my baby?
In you, Yukio, I see that love for my people. That is all I want mixed people to have...but historically, they have become a Nazi race against us. They kill, maim, exploit and HATE blacks with a far greater precision than any White man.
I really do love ALL people. I really do. Kola Boof loves ALLL HUMAN BEINGS. But the reality is that my Black child is placed at the bottom of the totem pole....by ALL PEOPLE.
So as a mother, I have to fight for MY child. And I sure will, honey.
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Yukio
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 05:37 pm: |
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Kola,
I don't think it's a question of not Grasping your points. Understanding does not lead to agreement, nor does understanding mean that you are correct. Some of us just don't agree with you. Some of your points are fact, while others are interpretations, which makes room for dialogue and agreement or disagreement.
All of what i said is what Linda, i think, was trying to say.
Now, as it pertains to people of the Spanish Caribbean, it is clear that they were whiten, through immigration in the late nineteenth and twentieth century. So a countries they deny their African ancestry, or they limit it as a question of blood. Yet, many of these same countries practice Santeria, which is a combination of African and Catholicism, which means that they unlike many Africans and African Americans are not Christians. Another point is that we are both talking about country as units of analysis AND the masses, which are heterogenious, so that some are not only practicing African based religions but they also consciously educate their children on their Africanity. In other words, they do HONOR Africa. Lets not equate one's nationality or color with their cultural and ideological positions.
Most of your posts make this same point, which is that Nationality does not determine the persons' politics. You have said how Sudanese of different colors have had different politics, even your father didn't follow what his culture taught. |
Kola
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 06:41 pm: |
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Yukio,
Let me tell you something, Yukio about HONORING AFRICA....our land is called "Mother Africa"--the motherland for a reason. BLACK WOMEN are not honored in those countries--Venezuela, Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic. In fact, the hatred and ghettoization of Negroid women is far worse in those countries than it has EVER been in the U.S. And no one can honor Africa without honoring the very darkest of the Black women.
I have met and been "patronized" by people from Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic and Venezuela. In isolated surroundings, they're usually quite nice.
But I have also been in large groups of those people...and even the ones with a fondness for their African roots...are overwhelmingly loyal to the colorist, anti-Black, racist systems that they were brought up in within those countries.
As I said, your love for Black people shows in your actions. If you were from one of those countries, I would be very embracing of you...because you wished to be and because you acknowledge me as a relative.
But MOST people from those countries say one thing in public...and have "more colonial opinions" once they're inside their homes.
Any Black person darker than a brown paper bag who thinks Puerto Ricans are "our brothers and sisters" should go and stay in Puerto Rico for a good month. **Lightskins don't count. I'd like to see a man Wesley Snipes color go down to Puerto Rico and find out just how things are. The Dominican Republic is even worse!! They had bathroom stalls down their to separate women by color!!
As with everywhere else...the poor people are usually very dark and African looking...the light mixed people are the ones running things.
It takes far more than beating on a drum to Honor ones ancestors and their heritage. And yet with all it takes to destroy that lineage...they've WORKED OVERTIME to breed us out.
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Yukio
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 08:33 pm: |
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Kola,
I'll respond to your recent post on the "Race," "Blood" thread, inorder follow Troy's recommendations. Thank You! |
Chris Hayden
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 10:48 am: |
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Like it or not, the government, overtly or covertly, is always going to spend time and money keeping track on race. |
Beautifulwaterstar
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 06:58 pm: |
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"The government spends a lot of time (and Money), concerning itself with race. Is this they should continue to do?"
I haven't read all the responses (and they seem very interesting), but why 'wouldn't' the government spend so much time and money concerning itself with race when that is its basic foundation? "Racism" (not just 'prejudice' or mere bias, but "racism") is what runs this government as well as geopolitics, so why wouldn't it be the focus of most of the country's/ world's dealings? |
Yukio
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 09:47 pm: |
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I assume Troy's question presupposed that racism was not the foundation of US governmental policies, that race is fundamental to their policies w/o them necessarily discussing race, like their crime bills, the death penalty, and welfare reform. |
Theprophetess
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 03:27 pm: |
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Oh Helloooo Kola, do I hear you? Yes, indeed! The black is their own worst enemy always have been.
Stephen Biko (Shell Oil In Nigeria matter) came to the same conclusion before Africans killed him to aid whites.
Whites could not reign and pillage the resources of Africa but for African collusion with them. Batches of various Africans have declared undying hatred of African/Americans while proclaiming love and allegiance to whites. Again, as you well articulated, the black is their own worst enemy, always have been.
Hey, after all, it was Africans who aided and abetted whites in enslaving in the first place. So I 100% concur with your sentiments on the matter.
Blacks are Willie Lynched or Anglophilia and that is the root of the problem. Blacks hate and despise their own beautiful blackness. In Africa, as all over the world, blacks 'bleach' themselves to loose their superior melanin then turn around and get 'skin cancer.'
And the fact is with blacks in the U.S. sometimes it has been the rare Caucasian decent faction who has aided black liberation while blacks resisted it, and would turn in blacks seeking to revolt, escape and/or educate blacks. We have black republicans like Ward Connelly, Clarence Thomas, Armstrong Williams, Ken Hamblin, Larry Elders, etc. who are so that same what we call 'house knee-gro' mentality to this day. Not to mention all the FBI/CIA black retarded plants who constantly do injustice to black humanity.
Anyway, well have you articulated the truth. Well, have you so done. |
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