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Cuba_va
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Post Number: 8
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 12, 2004 - 11:34 am: | 
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Whats the correlation with athletes and white chicks? and white chicks and regular black dudes in the club scene? Why are so many sisters lonely in clubs these days, while all the brothas are hollering atwhite chicks? Have Black women been replaced by thick white chicks? Idont know???
People dont like to admit it, but its an epidemic going onwith this, and I jus wanna know wassup where you guys live at. I am from KansasCity, Missouri and its devastating out here with this epidemic. Black Dudes gotta have them a white girl out here and vice versa.
It has went from creeping wit them and having them on the side to parade these chicks and holding some white chick you have met in a club and banged out the first night at the same stature or even higher than the sista you been off and on with since high shool and who is probably the mother of your child, ya first love. come yall wake up. Talk to me peoples give me ya thoughts!!!!!
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Cynique
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Post Number: 1802
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Votes: 5 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 13, 2004 - 01:46 pm: |
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Well, Cuba_va, the way I see it, is that it's all about values, and values are relevant. If you're stranded on a desert island, starving to death and you have a platinum medallion studded with diamonds, this jewelry has no value. If you're dying of terminal cancer and you have lots of money, then money has no value. If you're poverty stricken and you live in a hot climate, then a mink coat has no value. If you're an Eskimo and you live at the north pole, then a refrigerator has no value. If you're an African American male, however, and your peers regard certain objects as status symbols, then these objects whether they have real worth or not, become desireable and acquire value. In my conversations about interracial mating, black men cite familiar reasons for gravitating toward white women. They say black women are sexually inhibited, that black women are ball-busters and have bad attitudes, that black women are materialistic and unsupportive. So, because white women are not black women, they are perceived by black men to not have the shortcomings of black women, something which makes them desireable and, as such, valuable. And when a black man is caught up in materialism, in fine cars and designer gear, in Jordan Nikes and Rolex watches, then he wants all the other things regarded as premium property, and prominent among the trophies that give him rank and keep him "in style" is a white woman, someone who not only acts differently from a black woman but who looks differently from one. Adding to this dilemma is that a black man dating a white woman is an example of him exercising his freedom of choice which, in turn, is symbolic of his being liberated from the bonds of slavery and the taboos of society. What can be done to halt this growing trend? I don't know. But black men are not blameless. Too many of them are weak and selfish. They would rather have a second-rate white women stroking their fragile egos than a first-class black one yearning for love and mutual respect. Of course there are black men who will say that love is color blind so, whatever.(And, actually, where this thread is concerned, it's black men who should be giving input.) |
Abm
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Post Number: 2074
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 14, 2004 - 06:41 am: |
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Cuba_va,
Cynique did a fine job of characterizing this issue.
But, really, we've driven over this road so often, the wheels on our truck are about to fall off.
I think sistahs who think/feel as you do should simply STOP worry about what (certain) brothahs are doing and just start dating White/Hispanic/Asian...h*ll!...even South American Aborigines dudes. Don't discriminate. Yeah. They probably won't be packin', be able to dunk a basketball or dance as well as a brothah. But give'm a chance anyway, so long as they've got a job, HIV- and have good (or a blank) credit report. |
Aprior7
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 12:56 am: |
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Cuba_va,
I give you the black athlete's point of veiw with white women and their family : Picture this ...They introduce you as a football player. They don’t
just introduce you as a man. They have to put a phrase with it so others will accept you for your position, not your color.
Everywhere you go you’re introduced not as a human being but as a spectacle, a sideshow. This nigger is ours and even though we hate him, people seem to accept us with him because he’s a professional football player. If you didn’t have that title on your name, there would be a lot of closed doors. And with this you will never know people’s true colors, true feelings, true beliefs, and most important, where they really stand.
Some Black men just choose to believe this white woman and her family "loves me,” but her ancestors would lynch you if they had the chance, just for looking at her. Her ancestors would take your last breath. Remember our history is within us all. |
A_womon
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Post Number: 1159
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 12:11 pm: |
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OH MY GOD! A! You have told the truth and you know this. They always place a discription in front of who you are to make you more acceptable, like someone who used to frequent this board saying that her "husband" was West Indian as if that made him more than Black.
It is SO VERY refreshing for a young black male like yourself to voice the truth--black men should NEVER forget their history and how thier ancestors died over that DUMB IGNORANT ISH! |
Aprior7
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Post Number: 24
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 02:37 pm: |
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A_womon,
I am glad you are feeling me on this.. In my book I talk about this...I called the white woman "Pure Lily" I break it down big time ... as long as white women can used a black man they will. |
A_womon
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Post Number: 1162
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 06:23 pm: |
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Aprior7,
Yep! I do feel you and IM the one who's happy that someone is feeling me on this subject. I have been posting views very very similar to yours since I first posted something on this subject. It is one that white women who love sleeping with black men will NEVER get.
I get so sick of people saying stuff like that was in the past and you need to get over it. Ill tell you what, I'll get over the anger I feel about the holocaust that was visited upon VERY young black boys and men for the sake of a white woman, when jewish people get over the anger they feel over the holocaust that was visited on them. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 1821
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 07:05 pm: |
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But you could say that the black male descendants of slaves got the last laugh because the lowly descendants of white male slave masters are being by-passed by their highly-esteemed women who are now seeking to gain the favor of rich black men. |
Aprior7
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 07:41 pm: |
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But is the black man still being used by white women, who want him for his wealth that he has gained by his sweat and blood. In my veiw the black man is still a slave. |
Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 09:48 pm: |
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Any man is being used by any woman who marries him for his hard-earned money. Black or white. And it is possible that a fione, hunky, personable black brotha would have a white wife who actually loves him and subordinates herself to his will. Do you consider yourself a slave? Or are you enslaved by your mind-set??? |
Aprior7
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 11:18 pm: |
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I see it like this the modern-day white woman doesn’t respect a black man. During slavery the white woman was considered the white man’s pride and she still is. On those big plantations where the bullwhip was used to instill fear in the black man,the white woman was present and we all know women are sympathetic; it’s in their nature. As the beatings grew and lives were stolen, fear grew but sadness and compassion grew in the heart of white women for the brutality her white brother put on the black man and that spirit is prevalent today. |
Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 12:00 am: |
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Well, you're entitled to create any scenario that reinforces your theory. But nobody is crackin a whip, forcing black athletes to marry white women. They made their beds and now they have to lie in them. They don't have my sympathy. The are living lifes of luxury, being paid millions of dollars because they are able to score touchdowns, shoot hoops, hit homers and make putts. If they feel like they are slaves, and are being exploited by white women, then they should liberate themselves. Quit the sport and divorce their wives. Get another job and marry a sister. And quit feeling sorry for themselves. |
Abm
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Post Number: 2099
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 12:20 am: |
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Ant’,
Sorry. But I've gottah ride with my gurl Cynique on this one.
Because what I find slightly disconcerting about what you have said here is you appear to present your fellow athlete to be this mindless glob of muscle who is incapable of thinking/reacting for himself (leastwise outside of his diamond/court/gridiron).
Can’t you jocks act on your own accord (D*mn what your team owner [a.k.a. ‘massah’?] requires.)?
I want to think that you guys are everybit as capable of such as anyone else. But my interpretation of what you have repeatedly posted here suggests otherwise. |
Lawchic
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Post Number: 140
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 01:45 am: |
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Anthony: If you really believe that black athletes are being taken advantage of, then maybe for a sequel to this book, you should hook up with Harry Carson (I think that's his name) or some other eminent sports psychologist or black businessmen and figure out how to get out of the mess you all have embroiled yourselves in instead of complaining about it. You are barking up the wrong tree if you think we're going to be sympathetic to the "poor, rich me" scenario.
Hell, I'd be more sympathetic to these guys who go to camp or play on a practice squad and get hurt and don't have sufficient benefits to care for themselves afterwards (if such a thing is possible). Or even college athletes who are lucky if they graduate - school makes millions while they get some measly tuition, room, and board. I'm glad they are going to school, but you would think they could get a little more for what they do for their alma maters. |
Moonsigns
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 09:11 am: |
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"If they feel they are slaves, and are being exploited by white women, then they need to liberate themselves. Quit the sport and divorce their wives. Get another job and marry a sister. And quit feeling sorry for themselves." -Cynique
Bingo.
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Aprior7
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Post Number: 27
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 12:53 pm: |
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Money doesn't make the man, the man makes the money
Thoroughly enjoyed my career and am thankful for what I have been blessed within my lifetime. Understand, I am not condemning the football industry, I am simply stating factual information of personal experiences and allowing the world to see a little bit of reality not all the fluff they are use to being fed. Some folks can't handle the truth but, I can look at the man in the mirror and know that I have spoken the truth. Salaries/money really is irrelevant in this scope of the subject "racism" so please ditch that "High and mighty" attitude that money equates to being a better off individual, as it does not. The money factor is a North American inbred mentality that saturates minds like yours and thus creates the world in which you live in. With or without money a man should feel like a man when he goes to do his job, on the field or in an office. Being beaten down by racist remarks is not worth any money in the world. Let me know the next time someone makes a condescending remark to you and how you feel at the end of the day. To this day a black man no matter how much money he has cannot buy an NFL team. When we(black players) get hurt playing football and our career is over it is rare that we get offered a position to work in the front office for a NFL team. But white players get all kinds of opportunities to have a career in the front office. That needs to change and I am fighting for this to change so in the future a black man can have opportunities too.
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Cuba_va
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 12:55 pm: |
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Let me tell you something people. I am a young attractive AFRO-american man, ok. and the reason why i make this known because i am prime bait for women period but within the last 5 to 6 years white women. i am no professional athlete or multi-millionaire, i am a regular college going student. its a two-way street when it comes to this dilemma. i am no racist at all but i am very very race conscious. i know brothas that make there own conscious decisions to specifically date white women, and want nothing to do with sisters, they are not sell outs, they are regular inner city cats. For one white girls
they have no respect for money. so my black bros. will swear up and down they some pimps when they call up talking about how, every time they go out he spends nothing, she got big screens in every room of her condo, how she lets him push her benz sports coop, how thick she is for a white girl, how she co-signed car loans and make the payments while all he has to do is be there when she comes home, and F the shit out of her when ever the oppurtunity a rises. and these cats really think they big pimpin when really they the one gettin pimped. money means nothing to them, they have it on stand by whenever they need it. sex. please there thought of sex is just like money. no respect for it. they were not reared about sex the same way sista's were. if a sista is a slut its because she wants to be one, its not by ignorance. because 9 times out of ten she was brought up educated about this subject by moms and other family members, right sistas? but not them. that was a hush hush subject. so where do they learn it at? other hooker friends who through there own ignorance have picked up a few lessons after catastrophes, clubs, college, etc. they have had there bodies used and abused to the fact that they have lost respect for it. so yeah my brothas, u ca n have these used goods is what they are tellin yall, because they dont want them any more themselves. i'm talkin to my sista's beware because you can be in a relationship with a cat or have or could be datin a cat that has the white girl main girl friend and u are the side show!!!! they be the ones that talk about interracial relationships with so much hate and passion, hidin behind dreads, and bald heads, the ones thats always complementing on the size of your lips, hips and ass, and skin,like they have never been with a sister before intheir life or it has been a long time since they have.
9 times out of ten youhave and or still are messing with one.
and vice versa to all my white homies beware, about meeting a white women at the age of 25-34 and still single. There's a problem. what is the problem my fellow counter parts may ask? the problem is we all know that white peoples love and passion is different from ours. when white people are in love they committ quick and marry quick, its no beating around the bush, they put it all on the line and start livin that family life early, 2 planned kids and a home no later than 26 or 27. So if a white woman is the age and still single you best believe she has dated a nigga or niggas for those glory years of her life 19-25 and finally realize through out all this heartache and about 2-3 abortions understand that niggaz aint shit. now the same white man who back in the days she swore to GOD she has nothin in common with, he's to corny, he dont listen to rap, he dont dance, they dont have flavor or style or whatever other bull crap reasons white chicks have for not dating white men, guess what now at 26 it does not look that bad and they will probably end up marrying a white man. so white boys beware cause your little innocent princess could have a "DARK" very "DARK" past that could shake some stuff up between you two for real!!!
I going to leave you with a story a true story.....
My sister's ex-college suite mate invited her and I to her wedding. She is a white women who reminds me of one the gilmore girls or felicity, slash dawson's creek type ya know? me and my sister were the only Afro-americans there shit we were the only people of color there period. this friend of my sister wasjust a regular money having spoiled fake independent white chick, the type that you be like i know she dont mess wit black dudes cause u can tell and she had me fooled. because although she was marrying this very professional white guy, my sister dropped the bomb on her to me, and what she said was this same girl in college did nothing but date black guys,football cats, basketball cats, even local cats from the town who didnt even go to school, she was in a all white girls fraternity went home on holidays to emaculate houses filled with brothers that are doctors, uncles that are surgeons mom and dad retired lawyers, ya know a real white family.
I could not believe it. Yallknow how its always a couple of white chicks at the all black greek parties, well she was one of them, my sister was like you could not tell this girl nothing about whites guys, she didnt want to hear it. and this the type of shit that i am talking about it is so true yall, holla at me with your comments about this, fellas out there sorry if i messed up somethin but hey, i wanna here from yall too. cause i know you guys have some similar stories or experiences, white people? you out there?? oh i would love to hear from u too!!!!!! please |
Cynique
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Post Number: 1828
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 01:28 pm: |
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Aprior7, I understand what you're saying but why I can't muster up any great compassion is that there are millions of black men out there, making 10 dollars an hour, who encounter racism on a regular basis and who have no control over their circumstances. At the end of the day they come home to their humble abodes, eat a Burger King Whopper and wonder how they're going to pay the insurance on their second hand car or come up with money their baby's mama is asking for. Now, money may not make the man, but it sure keeps these jocks from having to cope with the dire circumstances of the average working class stiff. Yes, encourage these pro athletes to unify and organize and improve their lot, but in the mean time don't be surprised if other people don't "feel their pain." |
Aprior7
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Post Number: 28
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 01:44 pm: |
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Ladies,check it out ive been playing pro ball 11years,that doesnt make me better then the next black man ,educated white women marry educated white men,the majority of black men whether in athletics or the work force,marry a high number of uneducated white women,so there not even gettin the cream of the crop,because statistics prove black men marry white trash,however they believe they just won the lottery,i myself cant get enough of black women,i just love talkin s---t while having s-x,lets stay on the subject matter,sorry about that.the correlation between slavery and pro football is a parallel,however money makes us numb to bigger issues,ask your self was there democracy on the cotton field where millions were being made,did slaves have the right to voice there opinion,whether to there people ,country,or otherwise hell no,masta,provided ,on the plantation ,housing,clothing,shelter.today master provides,big houses ,big cars, and the finer things in life,however i have faith the black athlete will revolt,not yet though,because before you get people to come togeather for a cause you have to wake them up first.back to the women ,a black man can satisfy 10 white women,because there easy ,there stupid ,they think hes stupid,so its the blind leading the blind,they justify there union saying color doesnt matter,they live in the world of illusion where they convince themselves the world is aganist us but we have each other.the world is against black skin on white skin,lets face it .its easy to satisfy 10 white women,but can you please one black woman,thats the challenge.did you please your momma,did you please grandmamma,could this be an issue sistas............... |
Cynique
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Post Number: 1829
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 02:11 pm: |
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Cuba-va. I suspected you were a guy, but others thought you were a girl. Anyway, all I can say in reponse to your "revelations" is that all of this may be new to you as a young college dude but this shit has been going on for hundreds of years. While hiding behind their facades of respectibility, excitement-seeking white women have always had liasians with black men who appealed to their "primitive" desires. And black studs have always been willing to accomodate them while enjoying all of the perks that go with such symbionic relationships. Granted, it is more out in the open nowadays. But, the thing is, is that if they choose, these women can still exist in polite society and become soccer moms, while these guys can't return to being nothing but plain ol "mothafuckin" niggas. |
Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 02:36 pm: |
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All the complaints you are making, Aprior, would seem to be restricted to the NFL, because it sure doesn't appear to apply to the NBA. The players, most of whom are black, pretty much run it. They can get a coach fired, and even hit him and cuss him out. They can and did buy a team franchise and they do secure top jobs in management after retirement, as well as get hired to coach teams. Maybe you football jocks can blame your stupid plight on having been hit in the head too many times. |
A_womon
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 03:48 pm: |
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Stick to your guns! Don't let a few people's views here make you change up on your beliefs! Other people's views are no more valid than yours when it comes to this subject.
I don't think that you need a consensus of opinions from this limited group of posters. They have no more expertise on the reasons black men adorn themselves with these women than you have. |
Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 04:11 pm: |
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If you will read all the posts on this subject carefully, you will find that there is very little disagreement between what we are all saying about the white women/black man thing. And, no one is actually disputing any ideas advanced on the subect of NFL players, only giving some perspective to them. |
Abm
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 10:45 pm: |
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AP,
I think as long as Black athletes (and Blacks in general) refuse to appreciate/assert the value/benefit of their talents, they will continue to be subject to the whims of Whites.
You mention that Blacks can't buy an NFL team. I say, however, if Blacks were truly in accord, we wouldn't need buy NFL teams. We could simply start our own league and compete for a share of the market. And considering the NFL is currently 70 - 80% Black, a Black-own football league could blow the NFL out of the water.
And it never ceases to amaze me how a big-strong Black man can be turned to jello when matched against some frail@$$ed White gal. |
A_womon
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 05:42 am: |
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come on abm,
You know it is more than the white "frail" gal. Why do black men always think of white women as frail, buy the way, its just as many amazon and 250 pounder white women as there are big black women! And there's also just as many delicate boned black women. White women HAVE NOT cornered the market on being petite and delicate by any means. ANOTHER myth that needs debunking!
Anyway, abm it is more than that.
It is years of racism and being told you can't have something that comes into play here. It is the black man in some manner asserting his power over the white man and daring him to stop him THIS TIME!
I get tired of people saying that the black man chose a white woman because he preferred her or he somehow thinks this woman is better.
In reality there are a HUGE set of dynamics that come into play here.
I just like the fact that A, a young black man, is acknowleding a very real aspect of this complicated problem. For you see, that is when real change can be affected in black men's thinking about these white women that america has brain washed them into thinking they are missing something special if they don't get them one, if they don't sample the goods of the "mythical white beast" just once.
I love it when a black man tells other black men, hold up, check yourselves and think about the reason you want to buy into the myth. Don't you remember what happened to our ancestors?
BIG UPS TO YOU ANTHONY PRIOR!
When BLACK MEN begin talking to one another about the reasons that they do the things they do when it comes to white women, perhaps the legend about this "mythical beast" that has taken on such huge porportions in the black man's mind,will be debunked and the attraction with it. Because it takes another man to tell a man to "wake up, the white woman aint nothin but a woman, NOTHING MORE."
It is another game that white man has sold to the black man and it is a pity that they are selling their souls to buy into it. |
Abm
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 07:14 am: |
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A_womon,
You are funny!
Where-oh-where do I suggest that ALL such relationships involve skinny White women or that ONLY White women can be skinny?
I stated things as I did to note the irony of how an otherwise strong brothah like a big/strong pro football player can apparently be dominated by someone much smaller. And I don't know about you. But I have never seen some guy like AP with a 250 White woman.
I am tired of squabbling over why Black men are dating/marrying White women. Because to me, the arguments lead us NOWHERE.
Until Blacks can create/control more of their own world, there will always be a great number of us who feel compelled to partner/mate with Whites in a, mostly futile, attempt to validate ourselves.
Now, my prevailing point to AP is that Whites are NEVER going to give them the respect/control he apparently wants. He/they will either have to TAKE it from them, or entirely create their own.
And either of those will require Blacks to organize. Isolated instances of random outbursts (e.g., Warren Sapp and Keyshon Johnson) won't get them anywhere, but a pre-mature cut from a team the first chance their White coaches/owners get. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 1832
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 11:27 am: |
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a-womon says:
"Because it takes another man to tell a man to "wake up, the white woman aint nothin but a woman, NOTHING MORE."
Cynique says: If this is the case, then the argument could be made that it's OK for a black man to fall in love with a white woman as long as it's not for her skin color.
a-womon further says:
"It is years of racism and being told you can't have something that comes into play here. It is the black man in some manner asserting his power over the white man and daring him to stop him THIS TIME!"
Cynique says: Nowadays, considering how common interracial couples are, I wonder if this is really the mind-set of the average young black man. A white woman is no longer forbidden fruit. She is ripe for the pickins. And black men, themselves, had repeatedly said that the reason they like white women is because they cater to them and treat them better than black women. That's the present dynamic. Young black men in the upper echelon also choose the glamourous white women because they are "in style." Boys will be boys.
Until black men and black women heal the rift that exists between them, white women will always be there to fill the void.
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Aprior7
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 12:48 pm: |
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Abm says: Now, my prevailing point to AP is that Whites are NEVER going to give them the respect/control he apparently wants. He/they will either have to TAKE it from them, or entirely create their own.
Abm, Back in the day some blacks thought we would NEVER be giving the right to vote or the right to ride on the front of the bus!! The right to eat at any restaurant we choose to go to. Now we have that right so never say never when it comes to our people, because we have overcome many road blocks. Now as to you stating that we would have to create our own league; Why should we do that? I mean I want the same rights to buy a NFL team as the the white man has. See Abm, our(black People) money is the same as the white men money. Why should we bow down to anyone who is trying to close the door on us. That's like spitting in the face of our ancestors who died for us to have the rights that we have today.
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A_womon
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Username: A_womon
Post Number: 1165
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 01:29 pm: |
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a big-strong Black man can be turned to jello when matched against some frail@$$ed White gal
Now I could be wrong but to me "frail = small and fragile" and you did you the word frail, did you not abm?
Now regarding the rest of my post, Yes I most certainly HAVE seen a fine black man with a Big azz white woman!
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Cynique
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Aprior7, when you cite all of the privileges black people have acquired, then your argument that blacks are still enslaved doesn't stand up. |
Cynique
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A-womon, I would further state that a whole lot of black men are hooking up with the kind of white women who white men don't want. So these black men are still settling for second best. And some black men may think they're hitting the white man where it hurts by taking his woman, but to the white man such a black man is still nothing more than a black buck; a nigger stud. |
Abm
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 09:04 pm: |
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AP,
Interesting points. And I agree.
However, are your athletic brethren willing to make the types of commitments/sacrifices that our forebearers made to effect changes analogous with theirs?
Because I think the problem is not whether you can achieve more power. I KNOW that is possible (Frankly, I wager I know it BETTER even than you and your fellow NFL'ers do.).
What I fear is that when it's time to kick@$$, when it's time to stare down the big White boys, yawl gone straight b*+%#out, kinda like the NBA brothahs did a few years back.
A_womon,
Darling, forgive me. But I fail to divine your particular hang-up with my referring to frail White women. (Can someone, anyone out there 'plain the problem that A_womon accuses me of?)
I am not sure Blackmen are much more able to dissuading each other from indulging fallacious relationships with White women than sistahs are. Men have an almost inherent adversion to trying to discourage each other from bedding any/every available female, irrespective of their race/religion/nationality.
Frankly, on some level, a brothah telling another brothah man to not screw ANY woman is akin to advising him not to eat.
But I feel you.
PS: And, again, I have NEVEREVEREVER seen a young/big/strong/wealthy pro football star with a fat@$$ White woman. But if you do, PULEASE do me a favor...take their picture and post it here. |
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