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Chrishayden
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Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 02:00 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anybody in either of those states? Any problems at the polls?
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A_womon
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Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 02:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

im in ohio chris and people are being randomly challenged to verify that they live at the address on record. even if they have the registration card that was mailed a week or two ago. Some people are sent away after standing in the lines for 2 hours or more and told to bring back a utility bill to verify their address. These folks should be offered a provisional ballot (punch card chad vote)but aren't!
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A_womon
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Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 02:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

and Chris, I guess that I can safely assume that you do not read my posts, cause if you had read the one directly above yours, you would have seen that I am from ohio and that we are having some problems. :-)
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 03:10 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There is some sort of free telephone line those people can call. I will see if I can get it.
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 03:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

WHAT TO DO IF YOU ENCOUNTER PROBLEMS VOTING OR WITNESS VOTERS BEING DENIED
THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE:

1. If you or anyone you know has any problems on Election Day, call the
Election Protection Hotline: 1-866-OUR-VOTE. This will also possibly get a
camera man, lawyer and possibly media dispatched to get the incident on
record and investigated.

So far there are 1500 amateur and professional cameramen volunteers to be a
part of the video army to prevent voter intimidation and fraud. If you would
like to be a part of the effort, call 1-866-OUR-VOTE.

2. Check and double check your ballot. If you plan on voting straight
democratic or republican, it is especially important to double check as
early voters are reporting that when they vote straight Democratic and
double check, Bush/ Cheney is selected. If this happens, IMMEDIATELY GET A
POLL OFFICIAL and call 1-866-OUR-VOTE.

From The League of Women Voters
http://www.lwv.org/voter/geteducated2.cfm?tid=5things


1) Your Ballot, Your Vote Don’t panic if you registered to vote but your
name is not on the list. Get help from a poll worker to make sure your vote
is counted. You may be directed to another polling place or given a
provisional ballot.

Provisional/interim/conditional ballots are intended as a safeguard for
voters whose eligibility is in question on Election Day. These include those
whose voter registration is in doubt, those who may have been erroneously
purged, or first-time voters who registered by mail and have I.D. problems.

The Help America Vote Act (HAVA) requires that provisional ballots be
counted if the voter is eligible to vote by state law. However, some
election officials have chosen to apply standards for counting provisional
ballots that are unrelated to voter eligibility, such as casting the
provisional ballot in the proper polling place and filling out the enclosing
envelope correctly. Provisional ballots are the safety net so that no voter
coming to the polls will be turned away.

However, provisional ballots should not be considered a backup for poor
polling place operations or a catch-all for all problematic situations.
Election officials should make every effort before the election to reduce
the need for numerous provisional ballots, by improving the registration
system and by other means to allow the voter to cast an ordinary/regular
ballot. Too many provisional ballots will increase the post-election
administrative burden on election officials and delay election results.

2) I.D. – Don’t Go Without It You may need to show I.D. To be safe, bring
your driver’s license, or a paycheck, utility bill or government document
that includes your name and street address.

HAVA requires that first-time voters who register by mail present I.D. prior
to voting on Election Day unless the state has already verified their
identity. Unfortunately, many states have gone further, and are requiring
all voters or all first-time voters to present I.D. In addition, while HAVA
says that the application of the new requirement must be “uniform and
non-discriminatory,” many states have neither established mechanisms for
ensuring uniform and non-discriminatory application, nor informed the public
as to what forms of I.D. are acceptable in their state. Because this is a
new requirement, it could lead to problems such as unequal and
discriminatory treatment, and ultimately lead to wrongful disenfranchisement
on Election Day.

3) Writing on the Wall Look at the signs at the polling place for
directions on how to use the voting machines, a list of your voting rights,
and instructions for filing a complaint if your rights have been violated.

Voters will face many changes in the polling place this year. Many will
experience new procedures, some will see new equipment, others will see the
same equipment as before but now wonder if they failed to cast their vote
properly, and many will be first-time voters. To address these realities,
HAVA also requires that basic voting information be posted in the polling
place. Election officials should work with design and usability
professionals to ensure the readability of the information they’re providing
in the polling place. Information/instructions should be written clearly
and simply and provide illustrations. Voting machine instructions should
include how a voter can review his or her ballot, and how to check for
overvotes and undervotes. And, information regarding what constitutes a
spoiled ballot and instructions for securing a new ballot should be
provided.

4) When in Doubt – Ask Poll workers are there to help you. They’ll show
you how to work the machines and give you a provisional ballot if you need
one. If you’re at the wrong polling place, they should tell you how to get
to the right one.

Poll workers are volunteers from the local area, who are committed to
helping voters. Ultimately, the successful administration of elections lies
in the hands of poll workers. However, in too many cases, there are too few
of them and/or they have not received the necessary tools from election
officials. Such tools include appropriate training, easily searched
reference information to answer questions, and the official list of all
voters, with their polling place identified, for the election registrar’s
entire jurisdiction.

5) In and Out You probably won’t have to wait too long. But even if the
line is long, don’t leave without voting. The outcome of this election will
be important!

Many voters state that they don’t have time to vote and that’s why they
haven’t participated in the past. Creating a sense of a positive voting
experience and giving voters the tools they need to achieve this – such as
the League’s 3 Ways to Make Voting a Breeze – will go a long way in
increasing voter turnout. The League is urging TV and radio stations to
help with this by giving regular updates on Election Day on wait times at
polling places in their area.

AND

Know What to Do if You Experience Election Day Problems

Call toll free --- 1-866-Our-Vote --- to report problems and to receive
advice on what to do. This hotline is being operated by the Election
Protection Coalition, which is composed of many organizations including the
League of Women Voters.

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Chrishayden
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Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 03:40 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I just saw a message on another list where the poster claimed to have used electronic voting touch screen voting at a nursing home and voted for Kerry but it registered for Bush.

Deja Vu all over again.
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Sisg
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Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 03:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey Chris,

Someone in line with me, said her mother did early voting, and voted straight democratic, and it came up with Bush for President as well. That's why I double checked, no, triple checked before I was finished. Wish I could have gotten a printout!

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