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Chrishayden
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If this story is true would it affect whether or not you vote for Kerry? And if it is what is on the Democrats minds putting this turkey up for office?
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Wednesday, August 25, 2004
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The sampan incident
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Posted: August 25, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Patrick J. Buchanan
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© 2004 Creators Syndicate, Inc.
Steve Gardner will not forget the night as long as he lives. It was mid-January 1969. He was manning the double .50-caliber machine-gun mount in Lt. John Kerry's swiftboat. "The PCF 44 boat, engines shut off, lay in ambush near the western mouth of the Cua Lon River," writes John O'Neill in his best-seller "Unfit for Command."
Kerry was in the pilothouse monitoring the radar. But, Gardner claims, Kerry had given his crew no heads-up when, suddenly, a sampan appeared right in front of them. The swiftboat lights were thrown onto the sampan. Kerry, however, still had said nothing and was nowhere in sight. Gardner yelled to the sampan to stop. No reaction.
Then, as Gardner and crew thought they saw a man on the sampan holding or reaching for a weapon, they cut loose with the machine guns.
But when the crew boarded the sampan, they found no man on the boat, just a woman clutching a child no more than 2 years old and the shattered body of a boy. The man who had been piloting the sampan was believed to have been blasted into the water.
Here was a tragedy of war. But it is the contention of O'Neill and Gardner that Kerry bears responsibility for the boy's death. Had he been on the radar, he could have seen the sampan at a distance and ordered the crew to fire a warning shot. A slow-moving sampan was no threat to a swiftboat that could shoot it to pieces from half a mile away. Nor could a sampan run away from a swiftboat. While that child was killed in the fog of war, writes O'Neill, there should have been an inquiry:
The inquiry would have focused on why the sampan was not detected early and why normal measures like a flare or small-caliber warning shot were not used. To be fair, it is likely that the purpose of such an inquiry would not be to fix blame on anyone, but to avoid future miscalculation. And the major questions would have been: Where was Kerry? Why was there no warning? Why was a gunner's mate making the critical life-and-death decision instead of the officer in charge?
Kerry has offered his own versions of the sampan incident.
In one version, Kerry gave an order "to fire a few warning shots," but the crew opened up with machine guns. In "Tour of Duty" by Douglas Brinkley, Kerry explains that, because of the after-dark curfew, the river was a free-fire zone and, in some instances, boats had gotten close to U.S. patrol craft to throw bombs into their pilothouses. Yet the sampan had gone past the swiftboat before the guns opened up.
We will probably never know exactly what happened that night. But a Boston Globe biography of Kerry cites a Navy report of a Jan. 20, 1969, "incident" involving an attack by Kerry's swiftboat on a sampan:
[W]hile Kerry said in a 2003 interview that he wasn't sure when the boy in the sampan was killed, a Navy report says a similar-sounding incident took place on Jan. 20, 1969. The crew of No. 44 "took sampan under fire, returned to capture 1 woman and a small child, one enemy KIA [Killed in Action] ... believe four occupants fled to beach or possible KIA."
Was this the action in which Kerry was involved that night on the Cuan Lon River, the Globe asked his campaign. It did not respond.
Writes O'Neill, "The Commander Coastal Survey for Vietnam ... Quarterly Evaluation Report of March 29, 1969, states '... 20 January PCFs 21 and 44 operating in An Xuyen Province ... engaged the enemy with a resultant GDA of one VC KIA (BC) [body count], four VC KIA (EST) and two VC CIA (VQ 810650/44)."
In this report, writes O'Neill, the sampan incident is depicted as "Kerry's victory – killing five imaginary Viet Cong, capturing two Viet Cong in action (an exaggeration of the mother and the babe in arms who were actually rescued from the sampan) and omitting the dead child."
On getting word of five dead VC at Kerry's hands with two more captured, Adm. Roy Hoffman sent his congratulations. "Upon learning of what Kerry had actually done," says O'Neill, "Hoffman recently expressed his contempt for Kerry as a liar, false warrior and fraud." As have other former Kerry commanders and comrades.
Surely the contempt the swiftboat veterans have for Kerry is in part due to his slandering them as war criminals before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. And we shall probably never know for certain the full truth about the firing that night on the sampan.
But Kerry should be asked whether he wrote a report saying five VC were killed and two captured, when Steve Gardner, the man who fired the guns, says one man was blown overboard, one child was killed, and only a baby and its terrified mother were taken into custody.
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Cynique
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Well, nobody's perfect. If this report is accurate, can we hold people accountable for the sins of the their youth, or do we give them another chance in the hope that with age has come wisdom. Kerry is the only viable alternative to a man whose overall resume is much worse than his. It's time to focus on more immediate and pressing issues and forget all of this "he-said-he-said" crap. |
Abm
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Chris,
This is OLD news. It is easy for us who didn't have to worry about having our heads being blown off to conveniently do Monday Morning Quarterbacking +30 years after the fact.
War is about only 3 things: Living, killing and dying. Everything else is illusionary bull$#@+.
So we all need to leave this Vietnam War in the past and just move on. |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 572
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Cynique and Abm:
If he is the only alternative it is a sad commentary on this country and maybe we just need the real thing instead of Bush Lite.
Abnm--how come I never heard it before? Had you?
I felt that way too. But Kerry is the one who has put himself out on front street with this "3 Purple Hearts" and "Reporting for Duty" crap. And, arrogant privileged white male that he is, he thought that would be enough and he wouldn't get called on it.
I let it go that the DLC wanted him and sabotaged Howard Dean. I let it go that he is a dried up prune with all the charisma of a cigar store Indian. I let it go that, despite all his Anti War Activism he is a corrupt politician like that he was demonstrating against back then. I let it go that he was for the war in Iraq. I let it go that he didn't sign that letter from the Black Caucus that would have just put that mess in Florida on the Congressional Record. I let it go that he is a flip flopper and we can't trust him any farther than we can throw an elephant. I let it go that he opposed Bush on withdrawal of troops from Europe until he remembered that he had made a similar proposal not weeks before.
I am tired of letting it go. No more Bill Clintons. If this turns out to be true, I'm going to campaign heart and soul for Ralph Nader. |
Abm
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Chris,
I think most of us agree this election is more about DUMPING Bush than it is GETTING Kerry. So, although Kerry is hardly the most impressive candidate, many us would rather our next ‘Captain’ be a bit lost than retain our current ‘Skipper’ who appears dead-set upon steering us into "The Perfect Storm".
And, again, I just won’t dwell on what someone should or shouldn’t do during a war. Because I think were I in that situation, my number 1 priority to be to try to return in one piece. And that means if I had to do some dreadful things, well, I would just hope to work those out sometime later with St. Peter.
Also, I find it quite convenient that there is this sudden plethora of chatter about Kerry’s war record. Why ARE we just hearing/seeing this stuff NOW? Isn’t it quite possible that much of what is being said about Kerry’s military record are out-n-out lies that are being used to help Bush stay in the White House?
How do we prove and/or disprove one person’s claims over another concerning events that occurred nearly 35 years ago, especially when both sides are a vested interest in achieving something as utterly important as the Presidency of the United States?
And how can we spend so much time/effort unraveling what Kerry did/didn’t do in ‘Nam when his competitor (and virtually all his senior staff - Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz - except for Colin Powell) was too chicken$#*+ to do what Kerry did, no matter his ulterior motives.
Lastly, I find it odd that military men would try to devalue Kerry’s war medals/ribbons. Because couldn’t others claim that THEIR war insignia/records are no more valid than those of Kerry’s?
PS: I think our favorite rabble rouser Michael Moore said that virtually none of our US Senators and Representatives have kids in Iraq. And of course no one in Bush Administration do. Are THESE the people who should be deciding when/if we should go to war? |
Cynique
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And how much better is that egomaniac Ralph Nader fit to be president?? For somebody as old as you say you are, Chris, you are amazingly naive when it comes to politics. It about the art of the deal, the art of the possible. Screw what John Kerry did 25 years ago in the heat of battle. This country needs different leadership and he's the only candidate we got. But go ahead and campaign for a losing cause since you don't seem to be able to see past your nose. BTW, an old army genral said something that is probably very valid. He noted that enlisted men view the actions of officers in a far different light than fellow officers do. There is this natural dichotomy between those who serve and those who lead. Somewhere between the 2 accounts of John Kerry's war record is the truth. Take what his detractors are saying with a grain of salt. Especially since they are on the Republcian payroll.
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Chrishayden
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John Kerry makes me sick. He makes me sick to look at him. His face looks like Ronald Reagan's butt. There is not a dime's worth of difference between him and Bush. I'm sick of the Democratic Leadership council shoving these stiffs down our throats. If you haven't noticed they will be sitting pretty whether Kerry wins or loses. I don't think they care, so why should we? Maybe if it gets bad enough we will get some real leadership for a change instead of this tweedle dum and tweedle dee stuff. |
Cynique
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Well, if you don't care, then act like it, Chris. Stop bitching and pouting because Jesus Christ is not running for president. BTW, that fugitive from the cover of Mad Magazine, Alfred P. Neuman a/k/a as George W. Bush makes me what to barf. And since you are so disillusioned about this election, then exercise your right not to vote. |
Abm
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I too am disgusted that Kerry is the ‘best’ the Dems could do. This is a Oliver Stone territory: But I almost think he was intentionally given the nomination so that he would lose to clear the way for a Hillary For President campaign in 2008.
You make a good point, Cynique. All but one of those who were on the ship with on the swiftboat with Kerry support his candidacy. Most of the criticism is coming from those who ‘claimed’ to have seen him in action from ‘other’ boats. And that makes me beg the question: Just what the f#$% were THEY doing that was so great/herioc that they could calmly/rationally assess Kerry’s performance in battle?
Again, at some point, we’ve gottah let this ‘Nam thing go.
Nader is suffering from a variant of what Cosby is afflicted with: Once great/talented men who have grown so old/angry because they are no longer what THEY used to be that they’ll castigate/sabotage others.
But there is one part of this fiasco that were are ALL ignoring: Al @#$%ing Gore.
Gore is the one we ALL should be pissed at. Had he not been chicken$#@+, he would have run again and likely would have won this thing going away. |
Chrishayden
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I mean, you got a President who got into office under shady circumstances. Who has run a surplus into a deficit. Who at least was asleep at the switch when a devastating attack, one even the Japanese or the Nazis or the Russians was unable to do, was mounted on the captial city and the chief city on the east coast. Who lied getting us into a war that most people now admit was a mistake and which has turned everybody in the world against us.
And you are at best neck and neck? I can't believe this crap! But here it is--the only explanation is because Kerry is a sorry specimen. I stayed silent long enough on him. If this is the best he can do he doesn't need it. And maybe the U.S. needs four more years of Bush to get its mind right. |
Cynique
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Well, then vote for Bush, Chrishayden. I always suspected you were a closet Republican. Your
problem is that you get too emotionally involved with the candidates. You want to make them your heroes, put them on pedestals, and when they don't meet your inflated expectations, it's like you found out there isn't a tooth fairy. Ditch the comic book mentality, kiddo. We're talking about reality, about power and global strategies. Bush and his cadre of fascistic neocons are far more dangerous to this country than John Kerry and the men he will surround himself with. |
Cynique
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And I forgot to mention all the domestic setbacks that will occur if Bush is re-elected and his appointees to upcoming supreme court vacancies start refiguring the supreme court, and when his Religious Right constituencies start exerting their fundamentalist repressiveness. And his Attorney General starts tampering with individual liberties. |
Abm
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Cynique,
Yeah. Plus, in a another 4 years, that menage a tois that he, Cheney and Condelessa Rice are engaged in is bound to come out. And NONE of us want to hear tail of the sordid details of that! |
Chrishayden
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Cynique:
You been doing pretty good during the Bush years. Don't seem to be no skin off your teeth.
What's your secret? I figure four more years and you'll have your OWN literature website. (snicker) |
Abm
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Chris,
We both know Cynique's got a lil' 'Condelessa' in her system. |
Cynique
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Doing good? Not really. Just getting by, Chris. And what on earth would I put on a personal literary web site??? As Elron said to Gandalph, with a faraway look in his eyes. "The days of the elves are over." |
Chrishayden
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Abm:
You got that right, G! She got a li'l Miz Leeza in her butter!
But getting back to this sorry sapsucker Kerry, he is losing this election right before our eyes. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
If he keeps on this track he ought to skip the debates so he don't get wiped up.
Wiped up in a debate by George Bush. But look at Al Gore.
After he wouldn't fight for it after getting robbed in front of everybody in 2000, I think he was through.
The Clintonistas are licking their chops for 2008. I wonder if anybody has told them that they will have to find another Ross Perot to give them a chance--or that their might not be much left for them to take over. |
Abm
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Chris,
Kerry’s problem is has conveyed little of what he has/can accomplish other than score (now questionable) Vietnam War medals. Honestly, can YOU cite a single major law that he initiated/championed? I can’t.
Yeah, it things continue thusly, Kerry may indeed be toast.
Although, I recently read in the NYT that (allegedly) credible polls suggest the US states he either leads or ties with Bush have more Electoral College votes than those where Bush leads. So maybe he still might win, if for no other reason but by default of the current presidential catastrope.
Hey, maybe Sen. McClain will be Hillary's Perot. Because something tells me he's STILL pissed about the GOP using dirty tricks against him to give the 2000 GOP nomination to Bush (league) Junior.
Yeah, I’m kinda suspicious of Cynique's allegiances too. Because at times she reminds me of a sistah I knew in college. She would wax on ad infinitim about she so deeply loathe White people. Then what does she do while in grad school: Marry some White guy.
But hey. To be fair to her, dude was RICH. And after all, a sistah gottah get her shoppin’ on and hur hurdid.
Right Cynique? |
Chrishayden
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Abm:
I hope Cynique does snag herself some rich old fool so I can sneak in the backway when he's out of town--I didn't write that, did I?
You know, lying in bed last night, tossing and turning, fretting for the fate of my country, I decided this guy Kerry is somebody who could be standing in the bar with his wife and you could walk up, squeeze in between them and start hitting on her and he wouldn't do anything.
God forbid some rightwing reporter doesn't ask him what he would do if that happened (remember when that guy sandbagged Dukakis asking what he would do if Kitty got raped? Jeez, the kind of questions and responses that decide the fate of a nation! |
Cynique
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Oh, put a sock in it. Why do you 2 bozos have such a problem with me being against Bush? I know Kerry isn't going to win because Americans are basically conservative, NYC, to the contrary. I am surprised at how depressed I am at the thought of a Bush victory, but I am; really down in the dumps. So make all the jokes you want. I am not amused. |
Abm
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Chris,
Kerry does kinda strike one as being of the ‘punk’ variety. Doesn’t he? That is bizarre considering this guys has scored medals for combat heroism/valor (which, perhaps, further asserts the point the GOP makes that his war record is a sham). His persona is a 180 degrees contrast of that of fellow warhero McClain who often looks like he’s so butch he's jus’ wishen for a chance to punch a mofo.
I don’t think they’d get a way with asking Kerry THAT particular question though. Because the Heinz-Kerry chick almost look like she could handle her business all by her lonesome.
Sorry. But you did "write that"? But don’t worry. Cuz Cynique knows the (Tip) ‘drill’ (least dats what she told me/Lambd last time we ‘came-o-callin’).
Yeah, ain’t no lovin’ quite like that of a sistah who married up with a rich but sexually inadequate White guy. |
Abm
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You know, the older I get, I more I must concede that men will always be boys, and women will always be girls. |
Cynique
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Why would I need to snag a rich old white man, when I'm married to financially-secure black man? You guys are really pushing the envelope here. I may get silly and risque, but I have never gotten into either of you guys' personal lives or disrespected your wives or significant others. I can take a joke, but I don't expect to have to endure what I don't dish out. |
Chrishayden
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Cynique:
A thousand pardons. All this time I never knew you were married. |
Lambd
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I must have missed something. Did someone disrespect her old man? Wha happen? |
Abm
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Sorry.
I didn’t mean no disrespect to your husband. Actually, you have so seldom mention a husband that I guess I had forgotten that you were married.
I’ll chill with dat. K?
Though, dang!
First I can’t do my "Viggo Mortensen and Brad Pitt are like SOOOO queer" jokes. And now you cut me off from my "Cynique need to go marry up with A Rich White Man so I can be her well-paid(& endowed) gigolo" rountines. If you continue the censorship, darlin’, before long, I won’t have any material left.
PS: Hey! If you wanna make fun of me in a similar manner, I recently had to endure a rather inane gabfest between my wife/daughters about how CUTE (White) actor Matt Damon is. |
Abm
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Lambd,
Naw. But I think all our talk about her cuddling up to some White boy made that sistahgurl "Hey! Don't be dissin' my good, strong Black man" gene kicked in on her.
Actually, it's kinda nice seeing her all vulnerable in all. Kinda makes me wanna hug, squeeze, kiss...Uh oh! I guess I am drifting into that dissin' hur man phase again.
Sorry! |
Lambd
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That's cool. I like when our women folk stand up and recognize the man of the house. So often women want to diss and mouth off without permission, you forget that there are some good, solid women out there who know their place and only speak when its time to defend the good name of the one who wears the pants. Good for Cee-Cee! And even better for Mr. Cee! |
Lambd
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I'm kidding you so don't get your apron all twisted! |
Lambd
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I got nuthin' but love for you sister! Nuthin but love! |
Cynique
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I didn't think it was anybody's business whether I was married, or not. When we enter the cyber world, we can divest ourselves of reality. That's the fun of it. At the same time, others shouldn't feel free to make a mockery of someone's private life away from the board. Whatever. If that sounds contradictory. Too friggin bad.
Now, - back to the internet playground known as "Thumper's Corner." Lambd, you can give Cynique the details of that porno movie you made with "tall girl"(yet another alias. Jeeze.) It'll give her something to read while awaiting Viggo's phone call. Tilt! |
Chrishayden
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Cynique:
Well then dear how could we intentionally disrespect someone if we did not know that they existed? |
Abm
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Fellas,
Uh Oh!. Alert! Alert! Looks like we dune caught Cynique having a (GASP!) "A_womon moment"!
Please humor her. And maybe she’ll let use leave with a full set of nutes intact.
Cynique,
Okay, baby dumplins’. Slo’ yur roll a tad.
You know we were just funnin’ about you needin’ a White Sugah Daddy (dude would probably die of exhaustion). But if you think we need to cool it, I’m sure we will ALL oblige you in the way you require (at least until we get bored, in which case ALL bets are off...Hehe!).
Yeah, we carry on. But we ain’t trynah be up into yurs. Heck, by the looks of things, we didn’t even know what(& who) "yurs" were. Like Chris said, we hardly knew you WERE hitched. And NOBODY said anything about him (we’d kinda haftah know he existed to do dat).
So at least give a couple of ol’ horndawgs dah benefit of dah doubt.
K?
Side’s. You know you part of our roadcrew. Weebee rollin’ tuhgedah likah mofo. The only diff is you (and Lambd) just use diff’rent public wash rooms from us fellas. Dat’s all.
BTW: You are more than welcome to release me from my Viggo-bashing moratorium ANYTIME you want to. <whistling&waiting>
Chris,
You should have observed Cynique say what she said may be heen "contradictory" (codeword: "nuts"). And it has been my experience that when a woman pre-warns you that what she says/thinks is screwy, you can bet your @$$ it will be.
Dude. Didn't I tell you that making a movie with a film company titled Spank Dah Monkey productions was a BAD idea. Couldn't you tell that thang the company symbol was holding in his hand was NO bananna? |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1179
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 04:29 pm: |
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By not assuming that I wasn't married, Chris. I don't know whether you are married. So I wouldn't take it for granted that you weren't, just because you kidded around on the board and, as a precaution, I wouldn't go there. And I'll admit that you did seem more focused on dissing me, rather than my spouse. You don't seem to be able to take that Viggo fantasy in the spirit of fun. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 583
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 05:33 pm: |
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Abm:
Just what I thought. A woman thang, where you blow up at some men for not knowing something they couldn't possibly know. Thank God we are veterans or we might go out of our minds with guilt or grief. Sayyyy-- I just had a delicious thought--
Cynique:
You know--I think instead of us apologizing--you owe us an apology for blowing up at us for something we didn't do.
In fact--you may owe us two apologies--one for having us apologize and another for blowing up at us for something we didn't do.
Never fear-- one, ornate, queen size, Super Cynique, round-the-world, 360 degree apology will be sufficient for my needs. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1181
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 06:05 pm: |
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I never asked you guys to apologize to me. I just let you know that you weren't playing fair. What I really should've complained about was that you were dragging me through the muck in a way that you wouldn't want some man to do to your woman. I don't think that my Viggo fantasy deserves the kind of malice you were subjecting me to. |
Lambd
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Username: Lambd
Post Number: 438
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 08:27 am: |
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You letting your Viggo fantasy get the better of you gurl. Listen to yourself! What the heck is going on in that head of yours. You have got to put that fantasy on the table and back away! Just...back A-WAY!
Personally, I got nothin' against Viggo. I just don't like the fact that he is taking up space in your head that should be reserved for a brotha like me....Wait a minute! Screw that! Not a brotha 'like me'. Me! Dagnabbit! I'm the one that loves you and I'm being totally ignored because of this Viggo thing. Now we find out there's even another man in your life? Well, Missy, I hope three is enough!...Three is enough isn't it? You got a real man, a cyberman, and a lily white fantasy man. You should be worn out! |
Lambd
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Username: Lambd
Post Number: 439
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 08:31 am: |
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And why in God's name would you let Abm find out about my porno flick? I was gonna send you a copy of "Lord of the Ding" now that bonehead's gonna want a copy. Abm, do you even have a DVD player?
Dayyum! |
Crystal
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Username: Crystal
Post Number: 89
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 11:59 am: |
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Dang Cynique. Leave some for the rest of us sistas! |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1185
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 12:55 pm: |
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Jump right in the mix, Crystal. All that's required is that you be slightly out of your mind! |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1186
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 01:03 pm: |
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Lambd: You and Abm and Chris are the ones who empower Viggo. You guys buy into him. Don't sweat it. You've got one thing going for you; a real, live, sense of humor! (Actually, you have more than one thing going for you.) |
Lambd
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Username: Lambd
Post Number: 443
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 01:12 pm: |
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Don't you forget it, sista! After all, I am "Lord of the Ding!" |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1005
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 04:53 pm: |
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Chris,
Word of advice: Never ask a woman to apologize.
Because I have been married for awhile. And in all that time, my wife has apologized to me...'once'. And believe me, that experience was so painful, I have begged her to (PULEASE) never do that again.
Crystal,
Go on and jump right on in the hottub, gal. The waters warm, the moon is full and Viagra flows aplenty.
Cynique,
Thanks! Though, I can only account for the "thing" I have going for me(and boy-o-boy does it 'GO'). Whatever "thing" Chris and Lambd have going on between them...is between Chris and Lambd (see fellas, I didn't say nuthin' 'bout yawl being on the DL).
Lambd,
Aw, heck man! What I tell you? Let Cynique have her little "Viggo fantasy".
Really. Isn't Cynique's Viggo fascination "cute". It kinda reminds me of Black girls I knew who had crushes on David Cassidy (Keith Partridge from '70's TV's the Partridge Family).
I had secks with ALL those girls.
I doubt, though, that Cynique, Crystal or any of the other sistahs who visit this site would want to know what kinda hankerin' I've got for me sum Angeline Jolie. I won't go into any of it (PORN ALERT!) here. But let's jus say such things are downright 'ungodly'.
Oh, BTW: Too late. I have already spreaded porno films/pics of you all over the web. I guess you've already heard the "It's not the size of the boat, but the motion in the ocean" LIE, huh? |
Crystal
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Username: Crystal
Post Number: 90
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 06:45 pm: |
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Speaking of viagra – I heard Magic Johnson on t.v. saying that because of viagra the 50+ group of folks have one of the highest rates of new hiv cases. Just cause she can’t get pregnant don’t mean y’all can’t get IT.
ABM: I think you'll need a bunch of shots if you tryin to get with that nasty Jolie broad. Covering it up ain't gonna be enough. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 588
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 10:12 am: |
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Abm;
You been married. You got two daughters. You been reading a lot of books. Your pimp hand done got loose--your hip grip done went limp--knowutuhmean? Time like this you need another OG--such as myself-- to step in and help you tighten up your GAME! I will reveal one of my playa's secrets here--one you probably already learned but forgot since you done got domesticated and all (heehee!) And for the females here on the list I would never use these techniques on an innocent civilian--just one of these hardened combat veterans during a skirmish in the Luv Wars!
When you ask a woman to apologize you never actually expect or want the apology because you are never going to get it--you ask for it--she don't give it to you--you go about your business like you forgot about it but every now and then let her catch you looking at her hard, working your jaw and when she asks you what you are thinking about you say, "Nothin'". At some point she may get hip (them sneaky muthas try to act like they are clairvoyant and all but we men talk in our sleep a lot) to it and say, "It's because I didn't apologize about that thang, ain't it?" and then you act like you don't know what in the world she talking about and switch moods and act all cheerful and that. Your goal is to hold it over her head, preferably for the rest of her life, but at least until such time as you are fighting about something else and she got you on the ropes and then you can throw it up, say how hurt and betrayed you are, and storm out of the room--making a narrow escape.
No charge, playa.
Cynique:
What in the world are you talking about? |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1196
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 10:52 am: |
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Nothing, Chris. I apologize if I confused you. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 590
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 11:22 am: |
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Cynique?? Apologizing???
Oh no! I think this is the big one! (Grabbing chest and waving arm around a la Fred Sanford) |
Lambd
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Username: Lambd
Post Number: 447
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 12:07 pm: |
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Hey Chris, when you storm out of the room, is that when you go and see the next honey on your list? I know a guy told me that sometimes he would start a fight with his old lady just so he could get mad and storm out. That way he'd be free to go see his other woman. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 591
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 12:30 pm: |
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Lambd:
You didn't read my post. I storm out of the room when she is getting the best of me in an arguement or she has caught me dead to rights doing wrong (usually yelling, "Well F** it then!" you know how we men take that nihilist, kamikaze route when all is lost).
I don't have more woman than one at a time. Though I have only a limited time left, I want what little I do have. That will kill you one way or another and they won't stand for it.
But if you do want to try to play that game--and I'd advise you against it if you want to live long and prosper-- if, however you are bent on committing suicide I got a few tipsbut that'll cost you. |
Lambd
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Username: Lambd
Post Number: 449
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 12:58 pm: |
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How quaint and PC! I'll accept that from you this time. You can call me and tell me how you really feel about it later...Chicken! |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1197
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 01:03 pm: |
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In the words of a cretin who shall remain nameless: "what in the world are you talkin about," Chris? |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 593
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 01:28 pm: |
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I dunno Angie--what do you wanna do tonight? |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1211
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 10:58 pm: |
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Who'd have ever thought that "Marty" would the hero of a "playa" like Chris???? |
Yukio
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Username: Yukio
Post Number: 751
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 11:22 pm: |
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since ya'll complain, as usual, what about a political systems with multiple parties, like the parliament? Any thoughts? WHen I heard leroi jones aka baraka speak, he stated that we need to change the 2 party system... |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1031
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2004 - 09:45 am: |
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Crystal,
Yeah. I too had heard that Viagra has indirectly caused greater incidents of HIV infection amongst older foks. I guess that goes to show you that some retired gunslingers might have been better off keeping their ol' pistols in their holsters.
HAHA!
I agree Jolie looks like she's the type that "get's around". But I guess that choice says something about how ol' ABM like'm, huh?
Yukio,
The cynic in me tends to think that no matter the system of government, people ultimately support and/or succumb to the dominant power structure. Thus, a US parliament might still look/act very much like what currently exists.
But I would enjoy your explaining how/where I could be wrong.
I am only loosely aware of how the parliament works. And I imagine most who read this post would, at best, express the same. Thus, it might be helpful if you could cite an example of how we might be better served via a parliamentary system. For example, how might a parliament deal with the educational problems we have discussed within the "Closing the achievement gap" topic?
Chris/Lambd,
I hear you fellas. But let's be real. The truth is chicks eventually get the better of us. Because they are just so much better equipped than us at keeping $#@+ going that eventually a man is reduced to doing one of only 3 things: A) Giving in, B) Leaving'em or C) Killing'em.
It reminds of a funny line from the 50's TV great "The Honeymooners": Alice angrily says, "You men just think that you own this world. To which Ralph sarcastically quips, "Yeah, but you women get revenge. You MARRY US!" |
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