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Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 288
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 01:33 pm: | 
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I was going to stay away from this one, what with the visceral emotions the Gipper excited in his supporters and detractors and the fact that I am not impartial on him--when the American public elected this guy by a landslide twice to be President I knew without doubt they were beyond redemption.
And that, I suppose is the point. For us Reagan detractors, he has served as the lightning rod for our displeasure. But he was only trying to get elected. If the American people were not suckers for what he was peddling, wouldn't he have tried something else? One of my favorite sayings was that he would have worn a hammer and sickle and quoted from Das Kapital if that would have got him elected.
What I am saying is, are not the American people actually to blame or at fault, if anybody? |
Yukio
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Yukio
Post Number: 453
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 02:05 pm: |
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good question...i don't know! |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 575
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 03:10 pm: |
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I haven't heard one black "leader" issue any statement on the death of Ronald Reagan. And that speaks volumes for how he ranked with us. When I heard Reagan was dead, my first thought was - how could they tell?? LOL |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 323
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 03:18 pm: |
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Well, Reagan told (White) Americans the story that they always love hearing, "We are special, we beautiful, we are strong...we are AMERICANS. And he did so with a style and charismatic that American's hadn't beheld since JFK.
But some of the blame goes to Carter. His handling of the Iran Hostage fiasco and his disallowing American athletes to compete in 1980 Summer Olympics (in Moscow), along with the double-digit interest rates and inflation rates made him a sitting duck for a smiling, dashing B-grade Hollywood star to ride into DC and tell White foks that he was going to make everything ALL RIGHT! |
Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 291
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 03:54 pm: |
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Abm:
I gotta agree. I mean his act was well nigh irresistable. Here was Carter trying to tell them that the American Century was probably coming to a close (not beginning as the neocons thought) and they wasn't having it. I would hope I wouldn't but I bet if I was white I'd have fallen for it. I knew a lot of whites, who were even supposed to be "liberal" who fell for it--that's when I learned about them, too.
I mean the man was an Actor. And not a good one! Alarm bells started going off. He's just going to be reading a script. The hell with it. "It's morning in America", and they were gone.
One thing Richard Nixon said, "The average American is like a child. He doesn't know what
he wants."
I don't know if I agree with that, but after Reagan, and it was reinforced with GB II, I know that Americans are just like people everywhere else. Tell them what they want to hear, and they go for it. |
Sisg
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Username: Sisg
Post Number: 61
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 03:56 pm: |
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hahahaha....Oh Cynique, that was so funny (lol) I can't stop laughing....i was at church yesterday and our pastor mentioned it, the congregation was silent. He said something about what he remembered about Reagan...he said they called him "Big cheese", bc during his time, they handed out government cheese to everyone, and his church was a distribution point. I don't remember much about Reagan, but that cheese could make some slamming macaroni and cheese and went good with crackers. Oh yeah, the year he took office he cut all the government grants and I had to settle for student loans.
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Crystal
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Username: Crystal
Post Number: 33
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 06:24 pm: |
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Black folks in general aren’t saying much. I guess it’s an old habit of not wanting to say anything bad about the dead or some such. On one of our local news programs this a.m. they had a black woman interviewing some of the folks waiting for the viewing of the casket at the Regan Library. She was asking them what kind of impact did Regan have on their lives and what did they remember about him. All the white folks were saying how he made them proud to be an American, etc. After the interviews the anchor asked the black reporter what did she remember about Regan and the poor woman couldn’t think of anything to say! She kind of “ummm, well, let me see” and then “I’m going to have to think about that one” she obviously didn’t want to say how she really felt.
Some think all this republican sentimentality may just keep Bush in the White House. If they can drag it out long enough – one last vote for the gipper and all that crap.
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Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 582
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 11:23 pm: |
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Well, Crystal, you lived up to your name. That was very clear! |
Yukio
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Yukio
Post Number: 475
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 01:44 pm: |
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this tells us what white folk really think about the black community...nothing! |
Zambia
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Username: Zambia
Post Number: 12
Registered: 02-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 05:21 pm: |
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I agree with what you all have said. In fact, I wonder if Reagan didn't die umm, last month or last year sometime, but they just held on to him until they could decide on an appropriate date to have him "officially" die -- "Hey, how about having him die on d-day? All righty. And that's also about the same time the Post 911 commission plans to announce its findings. With the voters mourning Reagan's death, and if we bribe the networks to saturate the news with his death, nobody will notice anything else going on. Good idea!"
Periodically I watch the lines going past the casket, too (is he actually in it?) and I saw ONE dark-skinned brother in a red shirt in the line last night mongst all the white folks. When the camera got close to the brother, he put on sunglasses. Hey hey hey! |
Troy
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Username: Troy
Post Number: 83
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 11:39 pm: |
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Hey I got that Friday off from work!
I remeber how folks used to say Ronald Reagan was the anit-Christ Ronald Wilson Reagan 6 characters in each name 666.
I remember Gil Scott's poem about how Reagan "acted" like a president I can't recall the rest of it but it was a clever poem -- man it has been a long time.
I remember that gov'ment chesse mading good grilled chesse sandwiches too. Though I heard so many conspiracy theories about how the government was try to poison us poor folks I stopped using it --seriously (with the current education gap I wonder if I was wrong)...
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