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Thumper
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Username: Thumper
Post Number: 40
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 11:16 am: | 
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Hello All,
Congratulations are in order for Caryl Phillips and ZZ Packer. Botha re nominated for the PEN/Faulkner fiction award. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040309/media_nm/life_penfaulkner_dc_2
If you haven't read either of these books, you might want to check them both out. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 29
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 03:05 pm: |
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The Packer machine rolls on. |
Yukio
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Username: Yukio
Post Number: 75
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 10:40 am: |
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there'll be no hateration hollaration in this dancery! |
Bookgirl
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Username: Bookgirl
Post Number: 25
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 12, 2004 - 06:11 pm: |
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I have to agree with chrishayden |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 30
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 12, 2004 - 06:22 pm: |
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I mean Z.Z. is good but she ain't THAT good. I have gone back through the Pen/Faulkners. I can find lists of winners but not any featuring nominees. I couldn't find anybody who won for their first book (a collection of short stories yet).
Should her book be nominated? Is it as good as any of the others? Sure. Would it be there without that old Iowa/New Yorker Machine?
I remember a few years ago Granta magazine tried to do this. Baddest writers under 40 or something. I had a conversation with one of the writers.
"I'm one of the baddest writers based on one story in their magazine?" he said. He completely rejected the campaign.
"They say your first novel is forthcoming," I said to him. "Don't believe the hype," he said.
He had more principles than I would have. But maybe he was smarter than I would have been, too.
I'll tell you my opinion, I think she has the chops write her way out of this, to, as they said of Norman Mailer, "Survive being labelled a genius." But it's some added pressure, yes it is. |
Yukio
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Username: Yukio
Post Number: 77
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 02:48 am: |
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ok....i just wanted to use MJ's chorus....lmao! |
Bimsha
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Username: Bimsha
Post Number: 3
Registered: 02-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 09:37 pm: |
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Okay - what happens to the author's who fall between the crevice that lies between the ever popular chick-lit,pimp-thug or high sexed literature and the Iowa Workshop/NY Machine...what happens to those writer's? |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 114
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 10:30 pm: |
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If these authors put appostrophes where they don't belong, they probably never go anywhere. All kidding aside, everybody can't be a super star. There are mid-level achievers in every field of endeavor; sometimes they're lucky enough to earn a living at their chosen profession and sometimes they have to supplement it. |
Bimsha
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Username: Bimsha
Post Number: 4
Registered: 02-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 09:35 am: |
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Cynique - I mean the "good" author's who know where to put apostrophes - the ones that are constantly over-shadowed by Zane, EJD and E. Lynn's (to name a few) what about the Shawne Johnson's, Olympia Vernon's and so on....how do we grab some attention for them? |
Yukio
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Username: Yukio
Post Number: 95
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 11:48 am: |
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bimsha: folk will [or can only] read what their comfortable with....
You can make suggests...or introduce fiction by association...for example: when i talk to a person about someone or something that reminds me of a character or a story, then i say...."oh that sounds like this story i read...you would like it... |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 43
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 12:18 pm: |
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Bimsha:
That's on them. My suggestion is that they get on the half time Superbowl show and show their chests, because if they ain't selling huge numbers of books, or knocking out the critics with their stylistic chops or scandalous subjects, or if they ain't got a machine keeping their names out front, then they are going to fall between the cracks. There isn't a thing you can do about it. |
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