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Chrishayden
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Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 12:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

http://www.freedomorfascism.com/onthemoon.html

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Posted on Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 01:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chris, very good work. What else you got? I think you should read my book, "The Revolution of the Mentally Dead". http://360publishingcompany.com/

I think you might like it. Email me sometime so we can build. Peace.
-Darrin
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Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 12:07 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just checked out your link, Chris, and expecting it to be an article about the space program, I was pleasantly surprised to be treated to your mini-masterpiece. I loved it! A great epic. It left nothin to be desired - its language, its landscape, its imagery, its humor, its intellectual content, its history lessons, all there, comprising a really palatable menu. Gotta give you your props on this one, babe. * * * *
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Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 07:57 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey Chris,

NOW that's what I'm talkin bout!!! Is there a brilliant writer hiding inside all of us writers who dream that BRILLIANCE will come and smack us in the face and spread down our bodies and flow into our fingers as we type out our souls and pour it out like blood onto the pages we write?

Can you answer that Chris? Cause brilliance sho did smack you in the face on this one! :-) :-) I'm Smiling!
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Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 08:09 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BTW Chris,

I'M STILL waiting on Armeggedon, and I think we are closer than a lot of people think, and there aint no wishing or writing that is going to be able to hold it back, the world events that we are experiencing forehadow it. I mean, last night the weatherman said NEVER in history has FLORIDA had four hurricanes hit it! HMMMMMMMM, somethin's brewing, that's fa damn shore!
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Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 10:10 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique:

My dear, those comments were better than a Nobel and Pulitzer all rolled up into one!

A_woman:

I just wrote it down, is all--actually that piece was written for an actual workshop (participants are mentioned in it, names are changed to protect the innocent) conducted by Ruth Garnett, who is the author of Laelia. She has very high standards and the other members of the workshop are all great writers (all women, too!) the audience and expected reception pushed me to excel.

Thank you for your kind comments.
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Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 12:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chris,

Bravo...and Encore!

My brother, THAT is positively SPLENDID. It is wide and deep with sage commentary, yet spiced with a perfect balance pathos, irony and humour.

As I was reading it, I couldn't help but visualize a giddy Bush Jr. riding atop a MX missile ala "Dr. Strangelove'.

And it sort of read like a bofo, steriod-injected spoken word set. Have you consider producing an audio version of it for others to listen to (and vibe with)?
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Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 01:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yea Chris, very good! And funny! ABM's right [don't get excited you fool] it read like a Def Poetry jam. An audio version WOULD be good.
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Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 01:22 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Crystal,

Aw come on now, LA Lover. You know I can't HELP but get excited whenever I get you to co-sign to something I have said. :-)
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Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 03:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chrishayden:

Some have said that the duty of a poet, and thereby of an artist,
because a poet is an artist,
is to tell
the Truth.

In reading these lines from your most fascinating piece that left me with a feeling of YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!! I at once, thought of many things--one being this passage from Baldwins essay, "The Creative Process":


The artist is present to correct the delusions to which we fall prey in our attempts to avoid this knoweledge.
It is for this reason that all societies have battled with that incorrigible distruber of the peace--the artist. I doubt that future societies will get on with him any better. The entire purpose of society is to create a bulwark against the inner and the outer chaos, in order to make life bearable and tradition has been evolved, whatever the tradition is, the people, in general will suppose it to have existed from before the begining of time and will be most unwilling and indeed unable to conceive of any changes in it. They do not know how they will live without those traditions that have given them their identity. Their reaction, when it is suggested that they can or that they must, is panic. And we see this panic, I think, everywhere in the world today, from the streets of New Orleans to the grisly battleground of Algeria. And a higher level of consciousness among the people is the only hope we have, now or in the future, of minimizing human damage.

"Is George Bush an Artist?" Is he? Or is he a mad scientist? And is there a difference really? Is he an artist? Most folks think artist and they think beauty:

“Art is the quality, production, expression, or realm of what is beautiful.”

Must there be beauty for a thing to be art?

Is there an art to being evil or is it just a rigid science and if just a science, well then, is science art?

Bush may be trash, but even some of Basquiat's greatest works were supplemented with trash.


Like many who have had nervous breakdowns
he emerged stronger with a determination to share these New Truths with people

Chrishayden in this piece, you seem to have "...emerged stronger with a determination to share these New Truths with poeople..." And so I must ask--Have you had a nervous breakdown?
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Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 05:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bleekindigo,

I hope Chris does not mind injecting here. :-)

I would say every President is in a valid sense both artist and scientist as he (and eventually she) invariably imposes upon the world that which has usually not occurred and/or been discovered. Of course, the consequence of their omnipotent machinations can have cataclysmic effect. Thus "mad" is often indeed appropos.

And some of the finest art, particularly of the last century has been profoundly grotesque. Take "The Exorcist" or some of Stephen King’s works. Spy some of the morbidly autobiographical depictions of Mexican artist Frida Kahlo. Then there are those monstrously beautiful pictures of atomic bomb mushroom clouds. And the picture of the that Vietnamese girl who in fitful agony flees in the nude because fiery napalm has burned all of her clothing from her frail body.

The best art is not always intend to show us only what we LIKE to see. Often, the very best art shows us what we NEED to see of what has happened, what we have now and that searing mayhem that lies ahead.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 12:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bleek:

I have never broken down and taken to my bed for long periods had to be hospitalized or medicated--not that I may not have needed to be--when told I needed to seek analysis I would either say, as I have on this board, "I DEFY analysis" or "Why? They're just going to tell me I'm crazy. I KNOW that." (The difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad--Salvador Dali)

I think though that I have had several small ones--I remember once in school studying real hard for weeks and then one Friday night in studying suddenly laughing and throwing the books into a pile and coming to on a street corner some miles from my apartment with only a vague idea of how I got there--decided it was overwork, went somewhere had a few beers and was fine. I remember the horrible anguish of my first tragic love affair and all that coming to an end when I wrote the woman a letter letting bygones be bygones--another where I was so out of it I spent a week sitting in a library listening to "I Could Have Been A Preacher" by Junior Wells and at the end deciding that I was through with that babe; I remember the awful ordeal of my mother's last illness and death--I never was, thankfully rendered hors de combat by any of these experiences, but they were traumatic and afterward I did see things differently.

I remember wandering around one time a seeing a brochure that had 10 signs that you are going to have a heart attack and trying to find out when you know you are going crazy and being unsuccessful (friends who have taken the ride tell me that one sign is a violent resistance to the idea that one is indeed mentally ill)

I remember blows and slings and arrows and heartbreaking disappointments that bummed me all the way out--again I believe they were small nervous breakdowns and I saw New Truths--was this what happened to Paul on the road to Damascus?

But then again--if I have, would I know? (spooky laughter, scary organ music in the background)

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Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 12:38 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chris,

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/179/1696.html?1096389502 .
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Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 12:41 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chris,

I think Bleekindigo fears you are somewhere held up in a lonely, dank St. Louis apartment with a fifth of Jack Daniels in one hand and a fully-loaded Smith & Wesson in the other.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 01:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Abm:

I only do that during the nights of the full moon and I have a 12 gauge pump loaded with 00 buck.

Hey! I gotta get my macho on!
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Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 03:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Discovering new truths after a nervous breakdown is a new truth for me. All this time I guess I've had it backwards. In my experience, it was discovering new truths that set my mind back. Finding out that there was no Santa Claus was rather traumatic for me. Later in life, finding out that I was the only virgin among my little circle of college dorm mates was something that put my psyche in reverse. So, I decided to try this thing called sex. Voila! What a revelation!!!!
BTW, Chris don't I remember you once citing the quote that "all art is political."
And to anyone besides me who is interested, there's full moon out tonight.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 09:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chris,

you continue to amaze me with your writing, and your diversity. Great job! You will be a force to be reckoned with.

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Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 09:17 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sisgal!

What are you doing on the net so late?
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Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 09:22 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey, Chris!

I'm always lurking...!
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Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 11:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Sisg. Thanks for the compliment! But, alas, I'm leaving the novel-writing to you and Chris. I ain't hungry no more.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 12:09 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So that's what Sisgal does huh? UUmmmm, okay, it's picture time. How about it Sisgal, Chris showed his ....I mean Chris's book was.....ahhh....wait, let me start over. It seems as if we all have seen most of the regulars but you seem to have escaped. Do you care to share with us your beauty? No ABM, don't say it :-).

Anyway, you are up a bit late let's see ......1PM & 11:35.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 01:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes, Chrishayden. I know of the small ones. We are no strangers, the small ones and I!

Love the Salvador Dali quote-

Abm-Amen on the Frida Khalo art!

Bleek

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