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Chrishayden
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 10:48 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Folks:

You can find a good interview with our own Kola Boof on the Africana.com website here

http://www.africana.com/articles/qa/bk20040518boof.asp

Now it can be told:

Your own Chris Hayden has a book set for release this fall (thereby giving you all plenty of time to gather up the brickbats, sharpen the critical tomahawks and pile up the rotten tomatoes--but I hope you love it!)

The title is VAMPYRE BLUES: The Passion of Vanardos and it will be published by Cornel Chesney's Door of Kush Publications (which already publishes the works of Kola Boof--latest release Flesh and the Devil out today!)

Vampyre Blues has a release date just before Holloween, October 16th, 2004--a fitting date for an African American Vampyre Romance.

I am not the only one on this list who has something in the works with the Mighty Door of Kush Publications--our own Sisgal is also considering signing with Door of Kush.

You may be wondering how this came about? Who plucked Chris Hayden's long neglected work from obscurity?

None other than the above mentioned Kola Boof made it all happen! So there to anybody who thinks she doesn't got a heart!

Keep logging in to this site for further details!
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 01:05 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chris,

I am so sorry that people's hatred for me kept them from congratulating you on your new book deal.

I know how much that hurts, because they used to do things like that to me all the time.

It's a fine novel and you're a clever, funny writer.

Thanks for mentioning my own work and our pal-ship.



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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 01:17 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Passion:

Pish posh!

It is early yet, they might not have read it. Besides, even if they do, they won't know whether to congratulate me until they read the book--

Keep ya head up.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 01:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Congrats on your book deal! I can’t wait to rip...I mean ‘read’ it. (HAHA!!) Seriously, I expect your book will be a blast...and I hope you make a ton ah dough.

And, well, what can you say about Queen Kola? (Now take it easy, Cynique and A_womon!) She's quite a woman. Ain’t she? She makes a brothah wanna...*
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 01:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well Chris,

Let me be the first to say BIG CONGRATS!!! on your upcoming book (even though I haven't read it). You see, for people like us, who finally have been given a break...it means alot to us to be published...and that doesn't mean we won't put our best foot forward. And yes, the secret is out, I too have a novel to be published and it may very well be with Door of Kush, THANKS KOLA, for reaching out and allowing me this opportunity. By the way, it's a wonderful article, Kola! Chris, a vampire romance, a black vampire romance...I think vampires have always been the sexiest creature, and so my interest level is already high. More to come on my novel....and some more good news!

See ya!
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 02:20 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Way to go Chris. Congrats and good luck.

-Emanuel Carpenter
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 02:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A_womon, as an aspiring novelist looking to get published, maybe you'd better make up with Kola. You might even try to get through the interview Chris was grateful enough to provide a link for. LOL! Couldn't resist.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 03:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique,

as you'll recall from my attempts/offers to help YOU with your own career.....nobody has had to be my friend or kiss up to me for them to be a sister.

If God sent an opportunity....then I turned around and tried to help Linda get booked at speaking engagements.....I offered to get you signed up with my agent--sent portions of your work along with my letter of recommendation to editors at publishing houses that I knew (REMEMBER? You never even asked...I did that, because I saw true talent in your book, but you only seem to remember our "cultural" disagreements)......I did for Chris Hayden and Sisgal only because they're solid writers who need a break and my publisher ASKED ME if I knew of any un-tapped talent out there. He gave me full reign to oversee publication of any 2 books I wanted. I chose people that I thought deserved a shot.

Sisgal and I still really don't even know each other. I just asked her to send in her book. She and I have spoken once, that's about it. But It's her TALENT that will take her to the people.

And I'm sure Troy Johnson could tell you some stories about how I...as an activist...support those that I believe in. Even when we're at odds.

Your comment was unfair and totally unfounded.

And as for A_FUTON, I'm sure she wouldn't even accept help from an evil, sluttish "worthless" nobody and never will be anybody like me.

God bless her.





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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 04:26 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dang, Cynique! Sure looks like your nemesis Kola has graciously tried to, as (I think) the hip/hopper’s say, "put you on". What’s up with dat?


Uh, A_womon. I know it may pain you to do so, but perhaps you should consider ‘adjusting’ your views of Kola a tad?
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 04:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A_Womon,

Be yourself and stay yourself. People will help you no matter what your views are if they truly want to help. Don't sell yourself out and walk away with no diginity as they laugh in your face at the way you pucker up!!!!!

And the way Passion has been cutting into you even with this last post (A_FUTON) ask yourself is it worth it?

BTW Chris,

Congrats on your book.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 05:55 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello All,

Chris and Sisgal: Congratulations!! I'm happy to hear it. *big smile*

ABM: you wrote, "Uh, A_womon. I know it may pain you to do so, but perhaps you should consider ‘adjusting’ your views of Kola a tad?"

And why in the hell should A_womon do that for? *eyebrow raised* Better yet, why don't you 'adjust' your views?

A_womon: I agree with everything Eviana said. But, it's up to you. Don't let anyone sway you one way or the other. You decide on the path you want your career to take.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 05:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What you don't get, Kola, is that if I had wanted your help, I would've asked for it. I was not interested in shopping my book around because I realized that it had no niche in the publishing industry. If you think I'm supposed to be appreciative of your taking it upon yourself to submit my book to people without my permission, then you are mistaken! Your condescending benevolence does not resonate with me. I have a completed manuscript for another book which is gathering dust, and when and if I decide to try and get it out there, I'll do it my way. Not yours.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 06:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey All,

First of all let me say congrats To chris and sisgal! If that's the route you chose to take I hope all works out for you!

Secondly, if i never in life realize my dream of being published i will never ever in this life or the next, kiss anyone's behind to make it happen! Believe that! I will become a published author in God's time and no one else's I don't need help from anyone but HIM. As I stated, I managed to get my First Novel into the hands of someone who is reading it and may open a lot of doors for me. I didn't need Ms Thang then and I don't need her now. If ya didn't know, now ya now!!!
and as for her name calling, I said all I had to say to her about that too, I will not be drawn into a battle of the dozens again with a grown azz woman who is supposedly worldly and full of wisdom and who is only a name (many names?) on a board again. I regret that I stooped to her level the first time. I usually have way more class than that. What all of you should remember, I never said anything to this woman, she is the one who stepped to me with all of the insults and without provocation I might add.! That is how I will always view her and nothing she can do will change that.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 06:40 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for the sage advice Eviana (i think you gone be the girl!) and Mr. Thump Yew KNoooooooooW!!
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 06:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique,

I think it will be a real shame if you don't keep writing, I love the characters in your book! I will shoot you an email when Im done reading, but I for one will be saddened if you choose not to continue to develop your gift of writing, as all of us aspiring author must do.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 06:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A_womon, you know you my gurl. I like your spirit!
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 07:01 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sisgal, I've been so caught up in other issues, that I forgot to congratulate you on your good news. You go, girl!
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 07:04 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And, Chris, just for the record, I reinterate the congratulations I extended to you previously. I know this has to be a dream come true for you.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 07:15 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Actually, A_womon

God is a HER, not a him.

And anyone...who goes back and reads the posts... will see that you called MEEEE names first. Because you didn't appreciate my advice.

Eviana must have missed your post about me being a "tree" that men "go up in" and urinate, etc.

But now all of a sudden...you're the poor helpless victim of mean evil Passion.

Seriously......I apologize for calling you a FUTON...and I'm glad that this diatribe is through.....but it was YOU, not me, who started in with the insults, the "dozens" as you will.

I wish you all the best and like Cynique, I actually like your spirit as well.

Reminds me of me.

Welllllll...OK...I'm being generous, but all God's children deserve a little pat on the head sometimes.

No need bothering to respond, because I'm sure that Thumper's about ready to take a belt to my hide..so I'll make myself scarce for a while.

ABM:

As always, thank you my King. I love you.









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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 07:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique,
I'll take a pass on the link! LOL But thanks for your support!!!
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 07:39 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just so ya know
Now you know I aint letting you get that one off, Passion! Please *gritting teeth* allow me to fill in your lapse of memory:

Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 10:19 pm:

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A-Womon:

You sound pretty "absent minded" to be making so much noise.

First of all, if a publisher buys your manuscript, which I doubt they will from all that you've told us (mark my words


The retalitory remarks are from a post this past Sunday and anyone is welcome to view Sunday's Set to on I believe the Known World.
Is your memory sufficiently clear now? Talk about selective memory!



NO NO dear, correction: You are not now nor will you ever be anywhere near "like me" And my being anything like you is not even in the realm of reality.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 08:26 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Congrats to both Sisgal and Chris...looking forward to reading your books.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 08:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Passion,

You wrote:
Eviana must have missed your post about me being a "tree" that men "go up in" and urinate, etc.

And you're absolutely right I did miss that post, but when you put yourself out there like that and say some of the things that you've said, why cry.

My post had nothing to do with previous posts of A_Womon or you, it's strictly about her views, her opinions and her changing them to please you for help. Both of you have said some nasty things to each other without call and need to grow-up.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 08:46 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sisg,

I'm sorry. I didn't congratulate you on your book.

So here's a big CONGRATULATIONS!!!! to you
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 08:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

To all, Thanks!

This board never fails to amaze me, and keeps me coming back, day after day, for more. This has been both a difficult year for me and yet still a rewarding one. Not only do I look forward to the publishing of one book, but two, since just last week I received an offer on a childrens book I self-published some years ago, (after some serious rewriting,mind you). Thumpers board, and the postees have kept me both amused, and informed through the years. I received encouragement in the most indirect way, when established writers stopped in and chatted about their books, and when others like yourself shared your stories of self-publishing, publishing or just wanting to publish. Guys, if you been around for a time or two, you will know, I don't cat fight ...lol..."i'm a lover not a fighter", okay I digress.

oh by the way, no puckering involved here...and on an end note, in the words and voice of the American Idol kicked off last week "Ain't gonna let nobody rain on my parade....!

special thanks Thump.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 10:43 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sisgal and Chris,

My post here was not directed toward you or Chris
I was really answering ABM's post, so I wasn't casting aspersions at either of you. And I am definitely happy for you both that you found a way to get published, cause anyone who has ever tried, no matter what genre they are pushing, knows it aint easy to get your manuscript read by anyone in a position to grant entry into that world. Again, Best Of Luck to you both!!
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Sisgal,

regarding the rewrites on your children's book, did your publisher suggest the rewrites, or did you take it upon yourself to do them before you submitted? Was the rewriting a process of weeks, months, or what? If at the publisher's request, did you have the last word on final copy?
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Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Whew weeeeeee.......woooooooow!

Y'all done gone stone mad up in here. Y'all need to chill and laugh at yourselves sometimes. My god. A_womon......, don't you have me pullin' back my vote for you!!!! You've been on the grounds no longer than a wink of the eye and already you're rippin' off bras in the school yard :-).

Passion....


Hey Sisgal, you know I'm all smiles for you, look at you!!!

Chris, I knew you had it in you, no matter what ABM said *smile*. Thanks for sharing and trusting. Now, lets talk about that autographed copy.

Carey

Hush Thump.
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But... but... but..Carey I-I was just....I mean I thought....She...they...

Oh alright aready!! I'll play nice....Dang!

*hands behind my back and fingers crossed*
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Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 01:32 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

First, Sisg I congratulate you on getting published. It is gratifying to hear that someone with your calm, soulful style have a book in the offing. I pray that you enjoy boundless prosperity!


GEE! I am SOOOORRRRRRY. Dang! I must have fell off the back of that dangblasted turnip truck, struck my head on a fire hydrant and had a fitful schizoid Kum Bi Yah moment or something. It's clear the lines of demarcation are too deeply drawn here.

But this does remind me of a favorite line in Oscar Wilde's famed 'Dorian Gray': "I choose my enemies for their good intellects. A man cannot be too careful in the choice of his enemies."

I quoted that to say it is often the one who calls and proves us out to be an idiot who ultimately do us the most good, perhaps because our enemy propels us to improve/excel in ways that our allies never can. So, who knows? Perhaps the irrasciable Kola can provide the jagged stones upon which the indominable A_womon shines and sharpens her literary/intellectual steel.

But I am for now weary of arguing. So rest assured, I now disqualify myself from further input here.


Though I am curious about one thing: Thumper, what "views" might you suggest that I "adjust" And, more importantly, what should I "adjust" my "views" to?
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Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 06:12 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello All,

ABM: "Though I am curious about one thing: Thumper, what "views" might you suggest that I "adjust" And, more importantly, what should I "adjust" my "views" to?"

I don't know ABM, YOU tell me. Why should A_womon have to "adjust" her views? For what? And if her views are adjustable, then why aren't YOUR views adjustable? *eyebrow raised*

You also write, "I quoted that to say it is often the one who calls and proves us out to be an idiot who ultimately do us the most good, perhaps because our enemy propels us to improve/excel in ways that our allies never can."

You sound like a fool. Who's the "us"? Hey ABM, here's a new concept, try speaking for yourself. Let me speak for me. And furthermore, let other people speak for themselves. I have spoken. I still stand by what I've said. Now, do you have a problem with that? Cause I don't. I aint backing up off of it anytime soon. So don't try to ram anything down my throat. You keep what you like on your side of the fence and make sure it doesn't wander over in my yard.

"So, who knows? Perhaps the irrasciable Kola can provide the jagged stones upon which the indominable A_womon shines and sharpens her literary/intellectual steel."

And maybe not. That's not for you to say. A_womon has already said what she wanted to say on the matter. I suggest you let it go and respect her decision. And even if you don't respect, I guess that's too bad for you.


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Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 10:04 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A-womon,

After some of the feedback I got from trying to land a contract with a traditional publisher, I took it upon myself to make some changes. Once complete, I queried several publishers and posted my synopsis on a website for writers. A publisher contacted me and requested the first 3 chapters, and then later the manuscript. She said she loved it, but it required some revision, and asked if I was agreeable to it. She made some suggestions and sent it back for me to make revisions. I made more revisions, and at this date, still refining. The publisher never took upon herself to make changes that I didn't agree to. The entire process has taken nearly 6 months, since she first requested my manuscript in December and we really don't look at seeing the finished product until next spring. I am so pleased, because this was "my baby" my first, and the editing and additional revisions only made it better. And yes, I have the last word on the final copy. Good luck to you and your writing! ANd let me know when your book comes out.


Heyyyy CArey, and thanks!
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Princess A_womon,
I'll try ('Yeah, right!') not to belabor the point. But suffice it to say that along your travels as an author you'll likely find many instances where to improve, grow and...GET PAID, you must "...'adjust' a tad."

And you may be required to change in accordance with the designs of someone with whom you otherwise (even greatly) differ.

I myself graduated college largely because of the ambiguous gratuity of 2 White men. One was an avowed atheist and a flamboyantly flirtatious homosexual. And the other a blatantly racist, chain-smoking, peeping tom who is reputed to have once been affiliated with the Klan!

So I, with all due "respect", suggest that you not limit your learning only to and among that and those with which you only comfortably agree. Because you don't have to 'become' someone to 'learn' from her.


Thumper,
HAHAHA!!

Alas, I have come to expect as much from you. I saw this one brewing after my recent spat with Yukio. Whassamatah, Thumps? Feel you gotta 'spray' your territory for fear of it being usurped by good ol' ABM?

Or is this the part where you bait me into firing back at you only for me to then be perceived by others to be an ungrateful houseguest?

Well, thanks...but no thanks! I know better than to pi$$ on another man's carpeting. There's no upside for me there. Although, we ALL know were it my choosing I could leave you more exposed than a hooker during Mardi Gras.


BTW: I wonder do you grasp that in ordering ME to "...try speaking for yourself. Let me speak for me. And furthermore, let other people speak for themselves." that YOU inherently defy the very merits of your own advice? Hmmmmm? Just a thought.
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Princess A_womon,
Oh, mostly importantly...Good Luck and GOD Speed in your endeavors to get published!
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Sorry, Abm, I'm with Thumper on this one. Everbody has to choose their own path. If they stumble, they pick themselves up and keep on truckin. A-womon has her eye on the prize. She's young and full of verve and apparently isn't interested in people loitering around, "philosophizing" and imposing their "views" on her.
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Sisg,

Thanks for the feedback! I have written for childrens books about a very touchy subject from a child's eye point of view in addition to my novel and I hope to shop those around as well before long.

Gee, I am at step one, you know? I too queried,but was lucky enough that the first person I queried asked for a 31 page sample of my novel. After that they requested the rest of my manuscript, so there I am. I'll keep you all up on the progress though. Shoot, I might even write a book about my process in getting this far, it was really Some Story! Keep me up on your books to Sis!

Abm--Thanks for the well wishes and I hear what you saying I just don't happen to agree!
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Sisg,

I meant four (4) children's book :-)
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Hello All,

ABM: Remember yesterday, on May 18, 2004, you wrote, "But I am for now weary of arguing. So rest assured, I now disqualify myself from further input here."

Not up to being a man of your word today, huh? *eyebrow raised* Well, I'm a man of my word, everyday, 365.

You wrote, "Alas, I have come to expect as much from you. I saw this one brewing after my recent spat with Yukio."

Damn, dawg, you are not only near sighted, you aint as perceptive as you think. Truth be told you should have seen it coming last year. But you took my fairness for a weakness. Trust me, that was your mistake.

You wrote: "Whassamatah, Thumps? Feel you gotta 'spray' your territory for fear of it being usurped by good ol' ABM?"

*LMAO* No, baby, I aint worried about it in the least. I needed that laugh. I can't even stay mad at cha.

You also, quite memorably I might add, wrote, " Although, we ALL know were it my choosing I could leave you more exposed than a hooker during Mardi Gras."

*LOL* Keepin the laughs comin. I like that in ya ABM. I aint worried about that at all. Truth be told, that'll be a cute trick. I'd like to see that one myself.

But you know ABM, why don't you hit me offline, with your sentiments. Funny, you have never written to me offline to "express" how you felt about certain things, why is that I suppose. Well, anyway, in an effort not to bore the people, who would rather not see me get ugly, let's take this offline. What cha say to that, good buddy? *eyebrow raised* Here's my email thumper@aalbc.com. Now, its a dead issue. I won't speak on it again on the board.

Carey: Man, I'll hush up. But, you know, I've had enough. This board has been through a lot of changes in the last year. All that choas and confusion and ugliness was finally behind us. We had just gotten to the point where we were discussing books, language, authors of standing and credibility. It was like the good ol days. I was loving it. I mean to have the board back to that state. Now, I banned a certain person from this board, I haven't lifted it. Not in the least. If certain people like ABM and others don't like it, too bad. I aint got nothin for em. If they find this board boaring because a certain person is no longer welcomed here, I sho hate it. I guess the board will have to carry on without em. This board is about readers, people who love to read and talk about books. It has never been about one person, it has been about books, our books, books about us written by us. Now, I'm going to talk about books, with the exception of my countertop experience. *smile*
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CH: COngrats...i don't read sci-fi...but I will certainly read your book...
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Thumper,

Check your email, playah!
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sisg:Congrats!
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Congratulations to Sisgal, Chris Hayden and Kola! I look forward to reading all of your works.
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Well DANG everybody!!! I see why there's so much attacking going on. I don't by all means want to know but I gotta ask anyway. WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED ON THIS BOARD???? LOL. It seems like it's some serious issues out there and after reading Thumper's post I couldn't help but laugh while sitting in awe.

There are some strong personalities on this board and I think that's what make up a good one. May God be with each and everyone of you in whatever your endeavors are, because needless to say I think we all need it!!!!

Keep smiling people, keep smiling!!!
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Thumper's Corner is a pow-wow where there are all Chiefs and no Indians!
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LOL Cynique,

I've only been here for a couple of months and after interacting with the different poster on this board I would have to agree with you.
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Cynique,
I know you didn't coin this phrase, but I have always found it to be rather odd. Because aren't all Native American Chiefs also considered to be Indians. So isn't saying "Thumper's Corner is a pow-wow where there are all Chiefs and no Indians" slightly akin to saying "The US is a country there are all Presidents and no Americans."?
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Okay, well, I'm just popping in to say congrats!!!!

Chris and Sisg, getting published is tough and you have cleared one hurdle. WAY TO GO!
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Maybe something was lost in translation, Abm, and this colloquialism should be all Chiefs and no braves.
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Thumper wrote:
Hey ABM, here's a new concept, try speaking for yourself. Let me speak for me. And furthermore, let other people speak for themselves. I have spoken. I still stand by what I've said. Now, do you have a problem with that? Cause I don't. I aint backing up off of it anytime soon. So don't try to ram anything down my throat. You keep what you like on your side of the fence and make sure it doesn't wander over in my yard.

ROTFLMAO You would think that people would learn to take their own sage advice that they so readily and frequently dish out to others. As you said, ABM had to see this coming a mile a way. I know I did.
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Sisgal and Chris: Congrats! I wish you much success.
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Y'all really need to quit! What kind of fool would go in a mans house and insult him. What kind of insecurity demands a person to continue to attempt to front a man on his on porch? Think about it. If you went to someones house and they asked you to do something like not smoke in their house or to watch your language, what disturbed ego would not permit/allow the requested individual to do as asked without some childish,white boyish, smart-ass flipant comeback. I don't understand it! Men don't do that. They are secure enough to move over even when they think they are correct or the request was not to their liking. A man gives respect to others in their own house. I don't think it's hard to do unless those that can not do as they are requested are of a childs heart and mind. It's not hard to do, all you have to do is say, "okay brotha, I don't see your point but I'll respect your spot. Not all this "ya but, you said" and "I didn't say that, why you pickin' on me" and "ya butt, you need to" "yeah but yeah but". sounds like a bunch of B's up in hear!

Y'all obviously enjoy coming here, why is it so hard to do as the man requests without all that smart-ass white boy talk? Huh???

Now watch, somebodies foul ego is taping them on the shoulder right now and so we can expect another "YA BUTT".

Carey
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Carey wrote:

What kind of fool would go in a mans house and insult him. What kind of insecurity demands a person to continue to attempt to front a man on his on porch? Think about it. If you went to someones house and they asked you to do something like not smoke in their house or to watch your language, what disturbed ego would not permit/allow the requested individual to do as asked without some childish,white boyish, smart-ass flipant comeback. I don't understand it! Men don't do that.

Ha! I've wondered not only why a man would do this but a woman, as well. If you've been reading this site a while now you know from time to time some posters forget whose name is listed at the top of the page. They are asked to abide by certain requests, all of which are reasonable, but they keep coming back showing their behinds, and some may even lie low for a few months but then they come back employing the same tactics.
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Carey/Jmho,

I'm sure there are some who appreciate your being Thumper's cyber Sargeant-at-Arms. But I'm sorry, you are too late. The principals involved in this matter have moved this discussion off-'Corner'. So there is no need for you to continue the public name calling (especially when I have not cast ANY such aspersions at you).

Now, if you got a lil’ something you need to spit at ah brothah, please do ("Ain't nuthin' 'tween us 'cept space-n-opportunity.). I prefer to limit the public dissemination of my email address (@#$% spam!) But I freely grant license to Thumper to forward my email address to both you. So, if it be his choosing, hit me up. But know that in an email 'alley' fight, I ain't wearing no gloves.

And I don't presume to speak for her, but I'll bet the "woman" alluded to here would RELISH the opportunity as well.


BTW: I find it to be downright tacky to fire ad hominem (There's a thing called a 'dictionary'...USE IT!) attacks at others yet try to conveniently disqualify them from uttering a rebuttal. That is similar to trying to punch a guy who has been tied to a tree.
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I just LOVE youse guys

(Really Really Ah do!)
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Abm wrote:
So there is no need for you to continue the public name calling.

I don't do name calling. Publicly or privately. There are enough others on the board will do such a thing though.

Abm wrote:
Now, if you got a lil' something you need to spit at ah brothah, please do ("Ain't nuthin' 'tween us 'cept space-n-opportunity.). I prefer to limit the public dissemination of my email address (@#$% spam!) But I freely grant license to Thumper to forward my email address to both you. So, if it be his choosing, hit me up. But know that in an email 'alley' fight, I ain't wearing no gloves.

I don't do e-mail alley fighting either. Again, publicly or privately. And, I have not desire to e-mail you.

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And I don't presume to speak for her, but I'll bet the "woman" alluded to here would RELISH the opportunity as well.

And, I most certainly don't go around wagering useless bets.

Some people will never get it. <shrug>

Abm wrote:
BTW: I find it to be downright tacky to fire ad hominem (There's a thing called 'dictionary'...USE IT!) attacks at others yet try to conveniently disqualify them from uttering a rebuttal. That is similar to trying to punch a guy who has been tied to a tree.

Like when someone said after sprouting their opinion, no need to respond to what I just typed because I finished with this subject? Or when another said they were weary of arguing and was going to disqualify from further input in this thread? <rofl> Seriously, you might want to try and re-read some of your posts and see that some of what you write falls squarely right be into being downright tacky when firing ad hominem attacks others why trying to conveniently disqualify ... you know the rest.
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Who needs Jones and Tarver? All I need is a bucket of popcorn and sit at my computer. LOL.

Come on everybody, can't we just get along?

No one needs to apologize, just move on to another thread. I'm saying not to apologize for 2 reasons. First if you believe in your opinion, then you shouldn't have to, it's your opinion. Secondly, I'm afraid that if someone steps up and say I'm might have been wrong, then you all will start arguing over who said it first.

Whatever it is, life is too short. Let it go, PLEASE!!!!!
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Eviana: you are wrong! Just playin....lol!

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I like you Yukio, you're alright by me. LOL
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senorita, same here!
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Yeah Brother, I don't see the point in it but okay :-).

Carey

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Y'all remind me of my family. Fuedin' fussin and a fightin' at the drop of a hat.

Y'all do it out of Love though.
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Jmho,
I concede I may have unfairly included you in this looming bare-knuckler between Carey and me. And to the extend I have erred, I apologize (See, Eviana. I can apologize. It ain’t even no big deal. :-)).

But, when I was a shorty, a wise cousin once gave me a very sage bit of advice that I honor ‘til this very day: If you step up next to a dude who’s about to get into a fight, you should expect to get knocked on your ["expletive"]!"

I’m not saying you concurred with EVERYTHING Carey seemed to assert/infer...but it sure looked like you were seconding at least ‘some’ of it.

Now - and this is why I’m going to begin giving compulsory reading courses around here very soon - it was not that I have a problem with ad hominem attacks per se. It is natural that when things can get a little heated, foks might call each other outtah their names. And, heck, Jmho, where I grew up, ad hom’s (ghetto translation - "da dozens") were considered a delightful recreational sport.

No, what I took exception to was Carey’s attempt to smear me yet deny me a rebut (what we used to call an ol' "chuck-n-duck").

Sure, you can feign aloof indifference to what I proposed and choose to avoid scrapping. That’s actually probably in your best interest. But, Baby Doll, to avoid future gripes between us, let me suggest something to you: If you can’t run hard with the Big Dawgs, then do yourself a favor...stay your ‘tail’ up on the porch! <ruff!-ruff!>


PS:
Jmho: "Some people will never get it. <shrug>"
ABM: Some people will never acquire "it" to give. <sigh>
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Does anyone know how all of the bickering and hostility on this thread started? I do. It can be traced back to the one person who never fails to set off a Passionate fire storm!
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cynique...thats funny...you are a rebel rouser...
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Abm wrote:
I concede I may have unfairly included you in this looming bare-knuckler between Carey and me. And to the extend I have erred, I apologize

Apology accepted. But I do find it interesting that you lumped us together in your response and yet didn't address much of any of what Carey wrote.

Abm wrote:
But, when I was a shorty, a wise cousin once gave me a very sage bit of advice that I honor 'til this very day: If you step up next to a dude who's about to get into a fight, you should expect to get knocked on your ["expletive"]!"

Misdirected anger never solved anything. If your aim is that off, you might want to postpone that fight, and take some aiming lessons. :-)

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I'm not saying you concurred with EVERYTHING Carey seemed to assert/infer...but it sure looked like you were seconding at least 'some' of it.

I quoted the portion of what Carey wrote that I wanted to address. So, if you misread that to mean that I "looked" like anything then that's on you. And, if you disagreed with what I wrote then you just disagreed. But challenging people to "fight," by e-mail or otherwise, is exemplary of childish behavior, in my opinion.

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Now - and this is why I'm going to begin giving compulsory reading courses around here very soon

I suppose you need to learn first that which you plan to teach, eh? <rofl> It never cease to amaze me, and always give me a good laugh, when some people are trying to school others in that which they haven't even mastered themselves.

Abm wrote:
No, what I took exception to was Carey's attempt to smear me yet deny me a rebut (what we used to call an ol' "chuck-n-duck").

Well, it would be best to address your concerns to what Carey's wrote directly to Carey.

Abm wrote:
Sure, you can feign aloof indifference to what I proposed and choose to avoid scrapping.

I see no point in scrapping. But it appears you insist on such behavior, so you will be doing it alone or with someone other than myself.

Abm wrote:
ABM: Some people will never acquire "it" to give. <sigh>

Ain't that the truth. <lol> You stated very clearly that you were weary and was going to discontinue responding in this thread yet you continue.
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Cynique
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Posted on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 10:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jmho, you remind me of myself. We leave no point unrefuted and always gotta have the last word. LOL
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Cynique,
You overate Jmho. No offense intended of her. But when you were YOU, YOU were something else.

Cynique, you were like this clever, sexy Tigress that prowled the 'Corner' looking to rip a bloody chunk out of any guy lacking in wit. That for me was a turn-on. Whenever you reponded to something I posted, I could not help but feel all tingly inside.

I kinda miss that manhunter you were. What happen to 'her'. How was the 'great cat' declawed?
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Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 12:36 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jmho,
I would continue this with you. But it is not as much fun to dance when everyone else has left the party. So I'm going to toss some water on this dwindling fire.

I hope you had as much fun as I.
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Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 02:05 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Abm, my passive-aggressive personality is currently in its passive phase. I now have so much competition with all of these new hellcats prowling the board, that I have to fall back and generate some wrath.

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