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Bimsha
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Post Number: 40
Registered: 02-2004

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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 09:03 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I went to see CRASH a few weeks ago and was totally impressed that I am considering going out and seeing it again, This screenplay was seamless and the subject matter so honest and intense that I found myself sitting on the edge of my seat for most of the scenes. This is a movie that anyone who is considering moving to the US of A - should screen before coming.
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Literarylicense
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Post Number: 25
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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 10:25 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I really did enjoy this movie, and have been making sure all of my friends see it. You rarely see story lines successfully intersect in a six degrees type of situation. I thought it was a compelling story, with many realistic elements.

One thing I noticed was that three police officers did very dirty things, which says a lot about the people who have power. At least karma handled them in the end.

This movie showed how everybody has a little racist in them, even when they don't think they do. Every since I saw the movie, I've been checking the comments I make myself.

If anyone read the exclusive article in TIME about Dave Chappelle where he talks about realizing he was reinforcing racial stereotypes, instead of eliminating them, and how he was saddened by it, then you might really see how these same racist things are at the forefront of many minds in this film.
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Jackie
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Registered: 04-2005

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Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 12:56 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I didn't like the movie at all. The director didn't do anything new. I thought the characters lacked development and were unrealistic. Yeah there are racists in this society but some of the characters were hostile and angry for what ? For example, the Indian man's character was unusually dumb and hostile. Also I can think of countless other movies where cops are portrayed as racist individuals. Sandra Bullock's acting and character was probably the most realistic and believable. The director tried too hard with too many racist comments and scenes. It was overkill and took away from the whole point of the movie. The whole "characters ending up interacting with each other technique" is nothing new and was done in Pulp Fiction in 1995. I was expecting some fresh and creative perspectives on the issue of race and stereotypes...didn't find it in CRASH.
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Jackie
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Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 12:56 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I didn't like the movie at all. The director didn't do anything new. I thought the characters lacked development and were unrealistic. Yeah there are racists in this society but some of the characters were hostile and angry for what ? For example, the Indian man's character was unusually dumb and hostile. Also I can think of countless other movies where cops are portrayed as racist individuals. Sandra Bullock's acting and character was probably the most realistic and believable. The director tried too hard with too many racist comments and scenes. It was overkill and took away from the whole point of the movie. The whole "characters ending up interacting with each other technique" is nothing new and was done in Pulp Fiction in 1995. I was expecting some fresh and creative perspectives on the issue of race and stereotypes...didn't find it in CRASH.
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Cynique
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Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 11:31 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I haven't read one bad published review of this film. Even ol Stanley Crouch gave it a thumbs up, calling it a "must see" for all races. From what I can gather, the movie is an ensemble morality play, with each character representing something and, apparently, its ambiguity is its truth. I'm looking forward to seeing it.
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Mahoganyanais
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Post Number: 506
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Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 12:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I liked CRASH. Even though the writer had to contrive some situations to suit the larger goal of the film, the end result is still a thought-provoking film that also manages to be entertaining. I think it's a very necessary movie, and am observing that it is sparking some good, hard, honest discussions about race in my various circles of friends.

I thought Asians kind of got the shaft among all the groups represented. Their story lines were rather thin and not very compelling.

Finally, the film has got me on a mission: I'm in the process of asking every black man I know what he would do if he were in Cam's position (the role played by Terrence Howard) when he and his wife (played by Thandie Newton) got pulled over by the cops.
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Soul_sister
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Post Number: 30
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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 09:15 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey All,

I saw the movie and must agree with Jackie on some points -- The characters were contrived and without context to the historical relationships between gender groups and racial groups. Of course, one movie cannot answer all questions - but only provoke discussion - which I would love to have when people compare Spike Lee's Bamboozled in contrast to the white man's Crash.

I believe that the situtations have some merit and I am sure uglier outcomes - but what bothered me was the portrayal of Black women who were drug addicted or a drunken Sapphires or the mysterious confident of the white politician. The sexualized history of Black women has been manipulated by others for varying reason never for edification but all too often for stereotyping.

All opinions aside - this movie set in California could have only happened out there - I do believe this would not have been so credible set in NYC, DC or any other major east coast city - where similiar groups co-exist with equal misinformation and distrust - yet everyone "knows their place"

Finally, the one positive thing I appreciated was the character by Ludicris - his diatribe and hypocrasy was incredible - I wonder if he learned anything from those lines? I do not listen to contemporary rap but from what I hear booming from car stereos -- it has passed the bottom - the language alone -- unbelievable. Don Cheadle -- marvelous actor - someone I could relate to - on many levels

In essence the movie's moral is don't judge a book by its cover -- clearly the lines of race, gender and loyalty are collapsing and expanding - as every person seeks to feather their own nest at the expense of someone or something other than themselves -

Does that make sense? I hope

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