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Cynique

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Posted on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 12:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I recently had a chance to view the movie, "Mulholland Drive" on cable TV. Its plot revolves around the encounters of an aspiring actress, and stars Naomi Watts. I had heard of this film and, as I recall, it created a little buzz when it first came out. Anyway, I found it to be very compelling - an intriguing, mystifying riddle! I'm not really sure what the hook was, but if anyone out there has seen this picture, I'd like to hear your take on it.

Cynique
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Patti Flinn

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Posted on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 05:00 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Great film. I keep meaning to rent to video to watch it for a second time because there is so much to figure out long after you've seen it. I don't want to give away any plot info, so feel free to contact me offlist to discuss. :-)

pattiflinn@aol.com
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ME

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Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 09:26 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I saw this in the theater when it first came out & being a stone film noir maven & an admirer of Lee Tamahori's Once Were Kings [a really fine movie about contemporary urban life among the Maori of New Zealand]I liked it; but after some consideration & seeing the movie LA Confidential I finally felt somewhat upset that two movies portraying brutal, racist & essentially lawless cops as heroes [ without any trace of irony or criticism] was more than I could take.
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Cynique

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Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 10:07 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi ME,
I think the movie you are referring to is "Muholland Falls" with Nick Nolte. "Mulholland Drive", as Patti Flinn has been so kind to enlighten me about, is a David Lynch production. It's a really bizarre but fascinating movie which challenges the audience to figure it out. It will be appearing on Starz Cable TV all month. Check your listings if you want to catch it, or, if you're really curious, you can rent it. I'd be interested in hearing your take on it.

Cynique
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ME

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Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 10:30 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Please accept my apologies. Yes I am familiar with David Lynch . I have not seen Mulholland Drive, though it is on my netflix dvd list. I've been an admirer of David Lynch's work since Eraserhead came out back in the late 70's. Get back to you on this one.
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Chris Hayden

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Posted on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 11:06 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ME:

Eraserhead is on my alltime favorite movies list--you know what this means?

You need Jesus!
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Carey

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Posted on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 10:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello Cynique

As you probably know, Ann and I are film nuts. Anyway, we did see Mulholland Drive as well as Mulholland Falls. I believe David Lynch's "Drive" was nominated for an Oscar for Best Screenplay. Now, the movie...the gratuitous sex scenes were about the only things I "understood" or really remember about it. I do remember looking at Ann and saying, "What the F*&^ was that about". Really, wasn't there a lot of flashbacks? While viewing the movie I had a hard time figuring out if the scene was in the present or a flashback. It's the type of David Lynch movie that you have to view at least twice to get the full effect.

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Cynique

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Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 02:26 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Whassup Carey,
Patti Flinn, the author of "The List" responded to my post and what follows is her interpretation of Mulholland Drive. I think she has pretty much duped it out. I will be checking out the movie again when it appears on Starz Cable TV on January 14th. If anyone has never seen this movie and is planning to watch it, don't read any further.

Cynique

Hi Cynique,

I was looking forward to this film because I loved Twin Peaks so much and it was written by the same guy. I saw this movie with my sisters and there was much discussion afterward.

What we deduced was that the aspiring actress was the one who was living in a delusional world based on the fact that she murdered her lover - the second half of the movie was really what happened. She found out the dark-haired woman was having an affair and went crazy with jealousy. She sent the hit man after the woman who really died in that car accident. Those two older people screaming at her in that house were her guilt.

What sticks in my mind is the scenes where the two women are in the movie theatre and that woman is singing that sad song. The song was "Crying over you...I love you even more than I did before...etc". She killed her lover and could not get over the remorse. Then she killed herself, and was thus the person who was decomposing in the bed. So, in a sense, the whole movie is kind of told from the actual memory and the manufactured memory of the dead woman. Remember how sunny and Doris Day beautiful everything was in the beginning? Everything was wonderful for her. It was all fake. But the ugliness of the second part is much more realistic. She wasn't a successful actress, the dark-haired woman was. She was totally into the dark-haired woman, who was into her career and that man, and the blonde woman had no control.

I love a film that will make you think, which is why I loved this one. Even though everything looks really strange and disjointed, it all comes together. And the best thing is, my entire take on the movie could be completely wrong! I'm thinking about contacting David Lynch.

That's it - now I've got to go out and rent it. Thanks for listening to my ramblings!

PF



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Carey

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Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 06:03 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique

Okay, Patti's take sounds plausible. However I don't think I'll be running out to re-rent it. It was a little too deep for my taste. Tease me a little but DAMN.
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Cynique

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Posted on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 03:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My second time viewing "Muholland Drive" did it for me, Carey, and it certainly enhanced my appreciation for the finer points of innovation film making. Now I going to take a second look at "Austin Powers' Gold Member". I also enjoy watching a comedy a second time because I always discover things I've missed.
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Carey

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Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 07:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello Cynique

Austin Powers huh, okay go for it *smile*.

We went out and saw adaptation, it was a very very good flick. I'm not a big Cage fan but he did a nice job. Glen Close deserves her Golden Globe award, she did a splendid job. The movie was tight with surprises galore, had me and Ann looking at each other with our mouths hanging open. Also got a chance to see the movie Jack Nickelson recieved an award for. It was billed as a comedy but it was sad. I don't want to give anything away but in my opinion Nickelson has done better and does not deserve the award. He really didn't have to act, anyone could have played the part. But do check out Adaptation, it will be well worth your time, believe me.
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Cynique

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Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 04:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi,
"Adaptation" is definitely a movie I'm looking forward to seeing. As for Jack Nickeleson, he's such a Hollywood icon that he seems to have a lock on any award he's up for. The voters need to get the stars out of their eyes.
Austin Power movies really are very funny. They're very clever spoofs!
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Mike

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Posted on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 01:38 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't know about the Austin Powers movies being very clever [the first one was mildly amusing; I've no real desire to see the sequels], but I finally got around to seeing Mullholland Drive and it is a great movie. Lynch's best since Blue Velvet [and a better movie in some ways]. Patti's take on it is pretty much on the money [the accident that opens the film is also part of the dream; remember that key]. Great movie.
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Carey

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Posted on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 06:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I know people cry while reading a book, I've never done that but I have been moved. I just saw Antwan Fisher and I fought back tears during the whole movie. What a powerful flick. Denzel directed this movie and it's a shame it didn't even get a sniff of an award. The acting was tight throughout. This is a must see movie. Has anyone else seen it?

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Yvette

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Posted on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 07:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Carey,

I saw Antwone Fisher. I also read the book, before seeing the movie. Both the book and the movie were wonderful. The movie was definitely a tear jerker. It's so disappointing that people, especially black people, will not go out and see a movie that depicts a black man overcoming tremendous odds throughout his life. The acting was superb, in my opinion!! Life's just not fair.
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Tee

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Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 04:19 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Carey, I saw it Saturday night and yep, it was definitely a tear jerker. Both Denzel and the guy who played Antwone Fisher were wonderful. I especially loved the ending. I will hopefully read the book in the next week or so in order to compare them. I was supposed to read it last month in one of my groups, but couldn't find my copy. I just found it this weekend.

-Tee
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Thumper

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Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 11:21 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello All,

Now, who would have thunk it! Queen Latifah has just been nominated for a Best Supporting Actress Oscar for Chicago! I like Queen Latifah. I wouldn't mind her getting it, but I think its going to go to Julianna Moore or Meryl Streep. Carey, what's your word? Care to go up against me again? *eyebrow raised* *LOL*
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Carey

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Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 07:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Now If we are going to play this game you have to pick one.......one, not two and a maybe.....one. See you're good at hedging your bet by saying something good about several of the nominees so you can later jump over the fence. So yeah, I'm in. Here's my picks. Best picture is easy, Chicago, hands down. Now The pianist might be a better movie but Roman Palanski kills all hope of this winning. The Gangs of New York is a joke in my opinion so I'm going with Chicago. Best Actor goes to ....to.....dang, this is tough. Okay, Nicolas Gage's performance was the best in my opinion BUT some couldn't quit get with the oddness of Adaptation and Jack seems to be loved by the academy, soooooo Jack it is. Best actress goes to.....goes to, wow this is another tough one. I think they want to give it to Nicole Kidman because she was so hurt by being beat out by Halle that they will kiss and make up by giving her the award this year.....Nicole Kidman in a tight race with Renee Zellweger. I will not be surprised if Zellweger slips in on the winds of Chicago. Supporting Actor: I've seen all the movies that these gentlemen were in and in my opinion it's Cooper hands down BUT my opinion means nothing. Pual Newman's performance was flat but he is paul Newmen. Harris plays an AIDS stricken man and many friends of the academy voters have died from the diseases. Reilly is in Chicago and that's enough to get a good look. This is so toughh that I'm going with whom I think did the best job and that's Cooper. Supporting actress: I'm going to go with Meryl Streep because she's won before and I loved her role. Caterine Zeta Jones could ride in on Chicago but I don't think so. Best Director: This will not be a double up for Scorsese who won the Golden Globe, Chicago's Rob Marshall should take home the prize. There you go Thump, you can agree with me if you like *smile*.
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Carey

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Posted on Saturday, February 15, 2003 - 01:05 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

THUMPER....I can't hear you, could you speak up *smile*.
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Thumper

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Posted on Saturday, February 15, 2003 - 02:37 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That's cause I ain't said nuthin'. Hold on a minute. I'm comin'.

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