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Thumper
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 09:12 pm: | 
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Hello All,
I just got this email from my mother. Check it out. Here's the link to the article, which also has the link to the poem: http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2002/10/17/baraka/index_np.html
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Bayou Lights
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 10:37 pm: |
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I've been following this. Lots of trouble in the literary community as of late. Quincy Troupe lost his post in San Diego because he lied about his credentials. Not the same thing as Baraka but it comes on the heels of Troupe, and all those big time New Yorker, NYTimes writers who were caught plagarizing.
I didn't find poem offensive as much as I hate that there is no real dialogue in the public these days. Private lives, sure, but publicly we're all suppose to feel the same way and tow the party line.
Hopefully, with Lott showing his a**, public figures will get back into the groove of questioning, calling folks on the carpet, etc etc. Does that make sense? Somehow, in my mind, all this is related to cowboy and the current political environment...not the plagarism as much as the stifling of opposing opinions.
Thanks for posting this Thumper.
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Chris Hayden
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 14, 2002 - 10:14 am: |
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I had heard about this, Baraka's natural habitat is hot water, I think he relishes the controversy-it will be used by many who haven't forgiven him for comments he made about Goodman and Shwerner and other comments, which he has acknowledged were ant-semitic and he apologized for
By the way, Quincy Troupe also had to relinquish his post as Poet Laureate for the State of California( the first) and it was background checking for that post that revealed the discrepency in his credentials.
He read here in St. Louis a couple of weeks ago and was in great form. He will survive, none of this diminishes his work.
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Beautifulwaterstar
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 01:10 pm: |
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Okay, You Two. My bad for being so late, but hey, I'm still relatively new around these parts..
Anyway, when my brother sent me the link for something similar on Baraka, I was just like,"Whateeeever". Just like he was being "anti-semitic", my doubting that America had no hand in this so called 'terrorist' attack would probably get me labeled "terrorist".
Bout "anti Semitic". I mean, really. *rollin' eyes* If you tell a European Jew (which is a misnomer anyway) that the sky is blue, you're liable to be sued for your anti -semitism.
Listen, I am not trying to be unnecessarily 'ugly' or anything, but America recognizes their collective strife as the 'holocaust' it really was. They nor America recognize 'our' collective strife (slavery) as the holocaust it was. Plus they always wanna act like we are in this thing together or something, but when push comes to shove, we are the ones who do not have our stuff together economically, not them. They are doing just fine in this 'anti-semitic' society they live in.. Can blacks (in this basically 'anti-black' society') say the same?
But hey, what can I say? If we don't start sticking together and acknowledging that our concern belongs to the global then we really have no excuse to sit back and cry about the things that we are doing nothing about. |
Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 02:06 pm: |
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Seems like all any one has to do to be labled "anti-semetic" is to downplay the holocaust which, unlike slavery, doesn't actually seem to have had any long-term adverse effect on Jews. But what can you say? Jews have their holocaust to fall back on, and Blacks have racism to excuse away all of their shortcomings. |
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