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Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 7561
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 11:28 am: | 
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I hope they track them down and throw the book at them
Sought: Wal-Mart shoppers who trampled NY worker
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Nov 29, 7:11 AM (ET)
By COLLEEN LONG
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NEW YORK (AP) - Police were reviewing video from surveillance cameras in an attempt to identify who trampled to death a Wal-Mart worker after a crowd of post-Thanksgiving shoppers burst through the doors at a suburban store and knocked him down.
Criminal charges were possible, but identifying individual shoppers in Friday's video may prove difficult, said Detective Lt. Michael Fleming, a Nassau County police spokesman.
Other workers were trampled as they tried to rescue the man, and customers stepped over him and became irate when officials said the store was closing because of the death, police and witnesses said.
At least four other people, including a woman who was eight months pregnant, were taken to hospitals for observation or minor injuries. The store in Valley Stream on Long Island closed for several hours before reopening.
Police said about 2,000 people were gathered outside the Wal-Mart doors before its 5 a.m. opening at a mall about 20 miles east of Manhattan. The impatient crowd knocked the employee, identified by police as Jdimytai Damour, to the ground as he opened the doors, leaving a metal portion of the frame crumpled like an accordion.
"This crowd was out of control," Fleming said. He described the scene as "utter chaos," and said the store didn't have enough security.
Dozens of store employees trying to fight their way out to help Damour were also getting trampled by the crowd, Fleming said. Shoppers stepped over the man on the ground and streamed into the store.
Damour, 34, of Queens, was taken to a hospital, where he was pronounced dead around 6 a.m., police said. The exact cause of death has not been determined.
A 28-year-old pregnant woman was taken to a hospital, where she and the baby were reported to be OK, said police Sgt. Anthony Repalone.
Kimberly Cribbs, who witnessed the stampede, said shoppers were acting like "savages."
"When they were saying they had to leave, that an employee got killed, people were yelling 'I've been on line since yesterday morning,'" she said. "They kept shopping."
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT), based in Bentonville, Ark., called the incident a "tragic situation" and said the employee came from a temporary agency and was doing maintenance work at the store. It said it tried to prepare for the crowd by adding staffers and outside security workers, putting up barricades and consulting police.
"Despite all of our precautions, this unfortunate event occurred," senior Vice President Hank Mullany said in a statement. "Our thoughts and prayers go out to the families of those impacted."
A woman reported being trampled by overeager customers at a Wal-Mart opening Friday in Farmingdale, about 15 miles east of Valley Stream, Suffolk County police said. She suffered minor injuries, but finished shopping before filling the report, police said.
Shoppers around the country line up early outside stores on the day after Thanksgiving in the annual bargain-hunting ritual known as Black Friday. It got that name because it has historically been the day when stores broke into profitability for the full year.
Items on sale at the Valley Stream Wal-Mart included a Samsung 50-inch Plasma HDTV for $798, a Bissel Compact Upright Vacuum for $28, a Samsung 10.2 megapixel digital camera for $69 and DVDs such as "The Incredible Hulk" for $9.
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AP retail writers Anne D'Innocenzio and Mae Anderson contributed to this report. |
Yvettep
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Post Number: 3288
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 11:36 am: |
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Wal-Mart should be sued as well. If these stores are going to do this kind of thing they should be required to have extra security trained in crowd control as well as better systems of getting folks inside and looking for merchandise.
So, so sad. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 7564
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 11:42 am: |
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Why should you need special security and systems for adults who are just waiting to go into a store to buy something (especially a bunch of crap they don't even need)
Will we need this at bus stops to see that people don't get out of hand there? How about movie theaters?
No, I love to blame big business but the people in that crowd were idiots--one reason I avoid crowd scenes because the lowest mental denominator takes over and rules and people just become like cattle. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 13127
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 12:11 pm: |
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I agree, Yvette. WalMart should be sued. They have an obligation to anticipate the potential for chaos occuring on their premises and should work out the logistics ahead of time and provide adequate security. |
Yvettep
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Post Number: 3289
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 01:12 pm: |
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Will we need this at bus stops to see that people don't get out of hand there? How about movie theaters?
Yes--if transit companies started offering such promotions as "free gas for a year to the first 50 people who ride the bus today" or movie theaters offer "free home theater system to the first 20 people in to see Madagascar 2." These "door buster" things are such scams anyway. Stores often have purposefully only a limited number of the extremely low-priced items, then count on people buying other crap once they get in there.
Stores count on the stampede scenes happening. They do not want orderly crowds mulling slowly through the aisles. The former makes for better clips on the 11 o'clock news and for public perception that good deals can be had, and encourages more folks to get out there and buy "a bunch of crap they don;t even need." |
Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 3495
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 08:42 pm: |
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Savages. That's how one black woman described them. I agree....... |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 7566
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 10:29 am: |
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Savages. That's how one black woman described them. I agree.......
(Animals. Savages. They stomped the man to death and then went shopping afterward--nobody stopped to help, nobody has come forward to admit they did it.
I can see there is a male/female dichotomy on this--and it is disturbing.
Time after time you get on here and scream about gangbangers and criminals and here you have out and out murder--if not manslaughter--and the women on here want to blame Wal-Mart's.
I hate Wal Marts. But this ain't their fault.
I blame the crazed shop til you drop, greedy, materialistic mentality of so called "shoppers"
Perhaps because, unlike many females, I have not engaged in knock down, drag out fights over items "on sale".
The country is doomed. Obama, it's all for naught. |
Yvettep
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Post Number: 3291
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 10:42 am: |
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Chris, please explain what females on this list have been excusing the shoppers and their behavior? Perhaps I missed it. No one has "blamed" Wal-mart, but pointed out their responsibilities as well. Any shopper who can be identified as responsible should be sought and charges brought. The store also needs to ensure that in the future employees are not placed in this position. The company also could have kept the store closed for the day out of respect, but apparently management chose not to.
I do not shop on "Black Friday" and have never engaged in "knock down, drag out fights" over merchandise either.
I think you are reaching in an attempt at framing this as a gender issue. (Unless it is that women are better able than men to see more complex, multi-layered, "both-and" as opposed to "either-or" aspects of situations.  ) |
Yvettep
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 10:47 am: |
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Also, you might want to get a tutorial from Bunny Rabbit (or whatever your pimp friend's name is) on the legal distinction between such things as murder vs (voluntary/involuntary) manslaughter vs negligent homicide etc. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 7570
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 11:01 am: |
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Also, you might want to get a tutorial from Bunny Rabbit (or whatever your pimp friend's name is) on the legal distinction between such things as murder vs (voluntary/involuntary) manslaughter vs negligent homicide etc.
(That's pretty good. If we need a replacement for Cynique we got one suited up and warming up on the sidelines.
But I don't need Rabbit to tell me what cold blooded shopaholic homicide be! |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13132
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 12:13 pm: |
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Yes, you do need a Rabbit to keep you up to speed on things, chrishayden, because you don't know "jack"! |
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