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Chrishayden
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HOW THE CLINTONS WILL MAKE IT THEIR CONVENTION
By Dick Morris 08.9.2008 The agenda for the Democratic National Convention makes it, effectively, a two day convention for Hillary and a one day convention for Obama. The Democratic candidate, who needs all the national buildup a four day convention normally affords, will have to cut it short because of the Clintons’ skill in hogging the limelight on Tuesday night, when Hillary speaks, and on Wednesday night, when Bill does. So until Obama himself addresses the delegates and the nation on Thursday night, this is really a Clinton convention.
Why did the Clintons so want to got the stage? Because they want to do everything they can get away with to assure an Obama defeat in November so that Hillary can run against an aged McCain in 2012. She could capitalize on an Obama defeat by saying “I told you so” to primary voters.
Why did Obama allow it? Because the Clintons showed that they can make no end of trouble for him. Hillary leaked a video of her speech at a closed fund raiser talking about the need to her delegates to feel that their voices were heard and Bill said he didn’t think anybody could really be said to ready to be president (despite the fact that Hillary’s slogan was “ready to lead”).
The Clintons will continue to bedevil Obama all fall. Hillary will be outspoken in her support while Bill quietly cuts his throat with seemingly unscripted and apparently undisciplined cracks and non sequiturs. But every one of them will be planned and rehearsed to hurt Obama without seeming to have done so. |
Cynique
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Who pays any attention that fink turn-coat Dick Morris?? He's a certified Clinton hater. He used to work for them, and then became the Joe Liberman of political staffs and now hangs out at Fox News.
The Clintons can do anything that they want to do, but bottom line is that Obama has the upper hand and he is the nominee. |
Chrishayden
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Obama has the upper hand and he is the nominee.
(Not yet he ain't) |
Cynique
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Well, if you have your way, he won't be. |
Chrishayden
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How about this one?
Barack Obama blinks in Hillary face-off
Thursday, August 14th 2008, 8:13 PM
Hong/AP
Hillary Clinton may not get her party's nomination, but her roll call at the convention means she's stealing the show from its presumtive star, Barack Obama (below).
Rothenberg for News
Russia rolls over Georgia, Hillary Clinton does the same to Barack Obama. Now we know who's boss.
Obama blinked and stands guilty of appeasing Clinton by agreeing to a roll call vote for her nomination. That he might not have had much choice if he wanted peace only proves the point that he's playing defense at his own convention.
What does he get out of it? Not much and not for long.
The fleeting sense that he is a magnanimous nominee won't get him a single vote he wouldn't get anyway. Ditto for the idea that he's going the extra mile to unify the party. Those who refuse to accept him as the legitimate winner aren't likely to do so just because he caves into her demands.
It makes him look weak and ratifies Clinton's sense of entitlement to share party leadership and the convention spotlight.
It was supposed to be his party. Now it's theirs. His and hers.
RELATED: Hillary supporters cheer convention roll call
The substantive problem for Obama is that he is already underperforming against John McCain. He limped across the finish line in the primaries and, since Clinton conceded in June, his poll numbers have flat-lined.
In the face of that lackluster showing, his choices have been curious. The time spent in Europe and now in Hawaii might have been better spent courting the white, working-class voters who have proved immune to his charms.
Trying to bring them into the tent by agreeing to Clinton's growing demands is a poor substitute for direct appeals. She might not be able to deliver them, even if she tries.
Yet already the list of what Hillary wants and what Hillary gets is unprecedented for somebody who lost the nomination. She gets a prime-time address where she will be introduced by daughter Chelsea. She gets her own team to produce a hagiographic video of her.
Hubby Bubba gets a prime-time speech on Wednesday night. And Hillary gets a platform plank that uses "glass ceiling" language right out of her speech to suggest she would be the nominee if not for sexism.
A few more big-ticket items and she'll be the co-nominee. Maybe that's the point.
It reminds me of a Cold War joke about how the Russians view a compromise. They come to the table and announce the rules: What's mine is mine, what's yours is negotiable.
How would President Obama respond?
I think we just found out.
mgoodwin@nydailynews.com |
Cynique
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We shall see what we shall see. You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. I take all of the critiques of the Barak/Hillary scenario with a grain of salt becaus those suspicious of it are reluctant to give up their delusions that they know the real score and can't be fooled. Not. It's all about the end-game and Obama holds the trump cards. |
Chrishayden
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(Who wants flies. Besides you can catch more of them with sh*t than with honey)
Published: 08.15.2008
My opinion Maureen Dowd : Clintons hijacking Obama convention agenda
My opinion Maureen Dowd
WASHINGTON
While Obama was spending three hours watching "The Dark Knight" five time zones away, and going to a fundraiser featuring "Aloha attire" and Hawaiian pupus, Hillary was busy planning her convention.
You can almost hear her mind whirring: She's amazed at how easy it was to snatch Denver away from the Obama saps. Like taking candy from a baby, except Beanpole Guy doesn't eat candy. In just a couple of weeks, Bill and Hill were able to drag No Drama Obama into a swamp of Clinton drama.
Now they've made Barry's convention all about them — their dissatisfaction and revisionism and barely disguised desire to see him fail. Whatever insincere words of support the Clintons muster, their primal scream gets louder: He can't win! He can't close the deal! We told you so!
Hillary's orchestrating a play within the play in Denver. Just as Hamlet used the device to show that his stepfather murdered his father, Hillary will try to show the Democrats they chose the wrong savior.
Her former aide Howard Wolfson fanned the divisive flames Monday on ABC News, arguing that Hillary would have beaten Obama in Iowa and become the nominee if John Edwards' affair had come out last year — an assertion contradicted by a University of Iowa survey showing that far more Edwards supporters had Obama as their second choice.
Hillary feels no guilt about encouraging her supporters to mess up Obama's big moment, thus undermining his odds of beating John McCain and improving her odds of being the nominee in 2012.
She's obviously relishing Hillaryworld's plans to have multiple rallies in Denver, to take out ads and to hold up signs in the hall that read "Denounce Nobama's Coronation."
In a video of a closed California fundraiser on July 31 that surfaced on YouTube, Hillary was clearly receptive to having her name put in nomination and a roll-call vote, as will be done.
She said she thought it would be good for party unity if her gals felt "that their voices are heard." But that's disingenuous.Ever since she stepped aside in June, she's been telling people privately that there might have to be "a catharsis" at the convention, signaling she wants a Clinton crescendo.
The way the Clintons see it, there's nothing wrong with a couple making plans for their future, is there? That's the American way and, as their pal Mark Penn pointed out, they have American roots while Obama "is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values."
The Clintons know that a lot of Democrats are muttering that their solipsistic behavior is "disgusting." But they're too filled with delicious schadenfreude at the wave of buyer's remorse that has swept the Democrat Party; many Democrats are questioning whether Obama is fighting back hard enough against McCain, and many are wondering, given his inability to open up a lead in a country fed up with Republicans, if race will be an insurmountable factor.
Some Democrats wish that Obama had told the Clintons to get lost if they can't show more loyalty, rather than giving them back-to-back, prime-time speaking gigs at the convention on Tuesday and Wednesday. Al Gore clipped their wings in 2000, triggering their wrath by squeezing both the president and New York Senate candidate into speaking slots the first night and then ushering them out of L.A.
Wednesday will be all Bill. The networks will rerun his churlish comments from Africa about Obama's readiness to lead and his South Carolina meltdowns.
Obama also allowed Hillary supporters to insert an absurd statement into the platform suggesting that media sexism spurred her loss and that "demeaning portrayals of women . . . dampen the dreams of our daughters." This, even though post-mortems, including the new raft of campaign memos leaked by Clintonistas to The Atlantic — another move that undercuts Obama — finger Hillary's horrendous management skills.
Besides the crashing egos and screeching factions working at cross purposes, Joshua Green writes in the magazine, Hillary's "hesitancy and habit of avoiding hard choices exacted a price that eventually sank her chances at the presidency."
It would have been better to put this language in the platform:
"A woman who wildly mismanages and bankrupts a quarter-of-a-billion-dollar campaign operation, and then blames sexism in society, will dampen the dreams of our daughters."
Maureen Dowd is a columnist for The New York Times.
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Cynique
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Well, chrishayden, Maureen Dodd is your goddess, not mine. I repeat. People like her and YOU, can't get over Obama's humoring of Hillary. You want him to do like YOU think he should, and you're miffed, unable to concede that Hillary's moment in the sun is just a gesture and after the convention, the campaign will get back on track. So you are all reduced to pouting and sulking and coming up with half-baked theories about Hillary's motives. Old hatreds die hard. Get over it. |
Chrishayden
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I showed you mine.
You show me yours. |
Cynique
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I dont have to rely on others to supply me with opinions. I go with my gut. I don't think giving Hillary her night will affect the campaign in the long run. |
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