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Nels
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Username: Nels
Post Number: 1204
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 02:59 pm: | 
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Knowing that the non-island Hispanic population in the United States is the fastest growing of all and that much of that growth is due to those who have ancestors who came to the U.S. illegally (and pointing to U.S. soil birthright citizenship in particular), is it really fair to consider them a legitimate group? Passe or Fired Up? Any opinions? |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 7293
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 03:33 pm: |
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Fair ain't got nothing to do with it.
The businessmen want them here--you Negroes won't pick the vegetables, make the beds, put on roofs or do the gardening for peanuts no more.
Plus that, all of them that are born here are naturalized citizens.
And if you really want to get technical everything west of the Mississippi was their's anyway.
If a Jew can mount a tenuous claim to Palestine, someplace some people who practiced the same religion lived 2,000 years ago, how about a place that they have been living for the past 500 years (they only lost control. They never left)
Colorado, California, New Mexico, Nevada--start learning Spanish. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 12715
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 03:44 pm: |
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What you described is the family history of everybody who is descended from the immigrants who settled in America. Not to mention black people who are descended from people brought here in chains.
The inscription on tne base of the Statue of Liberty reads, in part:
"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free."
IMO, anybody born on American soil is a citizen of this country and is entitled to the rights that come with this status. Too bad we can't disenfranchize John McCain who was born in the canal zone of Panama. |
Nels
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Post Number: 1205
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 07:54 pm: |
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Now for the brass tacks. Guess it's time to reach into my black hat and bring out the Native American Indian portion of my heritage. Ain't it nice to be multi-cultural in Barack's America and just all "mixed up", at that? Yeahhhh rrright... But then again, the white and black folks in my "people's" chain never had a picnic together. Go figure. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 3394
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 03:12 am: |
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”Fair ain't got nothing to do with it.”
Ya got that right!
”The businessmen want them here--you Negroes won't pick the vegetables, make the beds, put on roofs or do the gardening for peanuts no more.”
True again. Negroes are not going to do the work these people do for the wages they are paid. End of subject. I live in SoCal and I see these people every single day doing menial low paying jobs and anything else they can do to get paid. They are self sufficient and will take any job offered them. The American Negro cannot compete with the work ethic of West Indian-Carribeans, Asians, Mexicans, East Indians and Africans. I know that is a blow to their race pride but it is true. It documents itself everyday.
”Plus that, all of them that are born here are naturalized citizens.”
This is also true although I have some problems with this concept. I understand the nature and the origin of this thinking. But I do have problems with people deliberately sneaking illegally into the country just to drop a baby and get tied up (to their advantage) with the paradox of the “naturalized citizen” law.
”And if you really want to get technical everything west of the Mississippi was their's anyway.”
Yep! Technically, this is true too. And it is the goal of La Raza to reclaim all of it. So far, their plan is working flawlessly. It’s just a matter of time…….
”If a Jew can mount a tenuous claim to Palestine, someplace some people who practiced the same religion lived 2,000 years ago, how about a place that they have been living for the past 500 years (they only lost control. They never left)”
Uhhhhhh……Well……I…..I guess that’s the end of that subject……….. |
Yvettep
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Post Number: 3117
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 07:41 am: |
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The American Negro cannot compete with the work ethic of West Indian-Carribeans, Asians, Mexicans, East Indians and Africans.
What? "The American Negro" has no work ethic? Not true at all.* Why should "The American Negro" work for substandard wages and conditions--especially after generations of being in this country and being promised "The American Dream"? Why should anyone?
The other groups you mentioned have different attitudes in subsequent generations in this country with regard to "work ethic." You'll find similar lack of enthusiasm for working for peanuts and 3rd-world conditions past the new immigrant, first-US-born, and later stages. (As well as the same "bad habits" with regard to eating/obesity, recreational drug use, etc, but that is another whole story.)
Most everybody gets Americanized eventually. Which is why countries like ours need a continual supply of fresh immigrant and refugee blood in order for the menial work to get done.
(And lets not even start about the "work ethic" of folks in underground economies--another whole other story.) If it is just hard work we're talking, folks find all sorts of ways to work hard to get paid. Just not all of it is "legal," but it is still "required" in a sense in order for our official, legal economies to keep working...)
It is either that or re-institute slavery, I guess.
Which "The American Negro" knows a lot about.
*(Now, if you are talking about a generational thing, with younger "American Negroes" not having the same work ethic as previous generations of Blacks and expecting something for nothing, then maybe you have a point. But that is an across the board thing. Young folks from all races and walks of life expect to get paid just for being themselves: an "A" because at least they tried and worked hard, a good job just because they went to a good college, a condo at 21 just because their parents have a house, etc etc...) |
Nels
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Username: Nels
Post Number: 1207
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 09:26 pm: |
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"Uhhhhhh……Well……I…..I guess that’s the end of that subject……….."
Not hardly. |
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