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Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 836
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 10:32 am: | 
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Hello
I don't know but it seems like the BET awards has lost some of it's glow. The whole production felt kind of cheap. The host was off his game and his dress did little to suggest that the event was suppose to be taken seriously. I didn't know Warren Sapp was a Gospel singer or that THE ACADEMY had anything to do with the BET Awards...well, that's what they said.
Maybe it's just me. Maybe it's just me, maybe I just miss the old school flavor of events such as this. Remember when Micheal Jackson brought the house down. Even the graphics and video aids left something to be desired. The transitions between events and video support just were not sharp.
Would someone please tell Diddy to get away from the camera. What's up with that clown. Money can buy a lot of things but it can't buy talent, the boy has no business trying to use his wit and humor in front of a live camera, he has NONE....he was terrible, the fool made ME nervous.
I must admit that our black women were FINE. They were doing their thang and looking good doing it.
What arena or hall were they in? It even had the feel of a high school gym....a big gym. I don't know, I was looking for this breakout performance and I am still looking.
Gotta get me one of those suits T-Pain was wearing *smile*. I remember when he was riding on ol'boys jock, passing out his CD that's still in my ride...unopened. Was there an absence of large sponsors? I don't know I am just asking. Does there seem to be a great divide between the old and the new?
I could have been watching the history of the U.S. Slave Trade or reading a medical text instead of watching that heart attack.
I did get a chance to gossip with my son while watching the show. Yeah, we were switching between the awards and Ultimate Fighting. A bloody mess... and so was Ultimate Fighting *smile*.
Carey
Carey |
Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 7030
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 12:09 pm: |
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I resisted watching.
Usually there is some kind of atrocity on it that makes me want to kick myself for wasting my time on it. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 10098
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 12:15 pm: |
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Chris,
Ditto.
While I watched that show in prior years, I would often feel at if millions of neurons were exploding in my head. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 12358
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 12:24 pm: |
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Seeing the tribute to Al Green and Qunicy Jones and the reunion of EnVogue made the BET awards worth watching for me. And it was, after all, a show revolving around the entertainiment industry, not a seminar critiquing the impact of black music on society. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 7037
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 01:21 pm: |
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And it was, after all, a show revolving around the entertainiment industry, not a seminar critiquing the impact of black music on society
(No, it is a pigfest featuring a bunch of stoned mediocrities making asses of themselves) |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 12363
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 01:43 pm: |
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Harsh words from somebody who didn't see the show. And as these type of shows go, it wasn't any worse that any other outing that rewards people for being good at what they do. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 7040
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 03:46 pm: |
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Harsh words from somebody who didn't see the show. And as these type of shows go, it wasn't any worse that any other outing that rewards people for being good at what they do.
(All awards shows are crap.
An industry giving itself awards based on totally subjective standards.
For instance
If you win the high jump event, you win because you
1)Jump so many meters into the air and
2)Jump higher than anybody else
Say you win "Album of the Year"
What is this based on? The length of the album? The number of musicians you had on it? The number of notes?
It is based on nothing. You don't even know if it is based on the number of votes it got, because they don't let you know.
Suppose it got 12 votes. You don't even know.
These are non events.
Free your mind from this meaningless drivel. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 12364
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 04:29 pm: |
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The winners are determined by record sales which are determined by fans who support their favorite artists by buying their albums.
I have no intention of closing my mind to the world around me and denying myself access to the best of what any field has to offer. Creativity does not discriminate and there's nobody more vapid than an "elitist" with narrow views. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 7050
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 04:43 pm: |
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The winners are determined by record sales which are determined by fans who support their favorite artists by buying their albums.
(They told you Saddam had WMD too. Git in de game!)
I have no intention of closing my mind to the world around me and denying myself access to the best of what any field has to offer. Creativity does not discriminate and there's nobody more vapid than an "elitist" with narrow views
(Just say you just have a good time watching it and let it go.
I like junk. I like comic strips.
But I don't confuse Alex Raymond, Charles Shulze, Milton Caniff, Walt Kelly or Hal Foster with Salvador Dali or John Biggers.
That swine really cleared up my mind. Go down to the Mayberry rib joint and get you some cue
IT'S SWINE TIME! |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 12367
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 04:50 pm: |
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A good rapper is a good rapper just as a great pianist is a great pianist. Apples and oranges, dumb, dumb. The only person confused around here is you, undoubtedly because the fat from swine is clogging your brain cells. Now wipe off your greasy lips and STFU. |
A_womon
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Username: A_womon
Post Number: 2311
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 05:31 pm: |
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Yes I thought it was a pretty decent show. Again, we are always picking us apart instead of lifting each other up.
I enjoyed seeing quincy jones, now 75, receive his award as well as Rev Al Green.
It was good to see TLC and SWV onstage and singing again too! |
Nels
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Username: Nels
Post Number: 1176
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 11:34 pm: |
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BET Awards? Nothing but a bunch of snooty Negroes who wouldn't be caught dead hanging around with the everyday person. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 12371
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 01:02 pm: |
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Puleeze. When did a bunch of rappers and ghetto fabulous performers get to be snooty???? |
Ferociouskitty
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Username: Ferociouskitty
Post Number: 271
Registered: 02-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 01:42 pm: |
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I don't know but it seems like the BET awards has lost some of it's glow. The whole production felt kind of cheap. The host was off his game and his dress did little to suggest that the event was suppose to be taken seriously.
A blogger I adore referred to it as the EBT Awards (not that there's anything wrong with that...) |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 849
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 01:57 pm: |
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Kitty,
ahhh...."EBT"? Come on don't leave me hanging. What.....Enormous Black T***es.
Sidebar: Text message lingo got me all messed up. |
Ferociouskitty
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Username: Ferociouskitty
Post Number: 272
Registered: 02-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 02:08 pm: |
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"Electronic Benefit Transfer (EBT) is an electronic system that allows a recipient to authorize transfer of their government benefits from a Federal account to a retailer account to pay for products received. EBT is currently being used in many States to issue food stamp and other benefits. EBT has been implemented in all States since June of 2004."
At my grocery store, it's one of the options when you go to use your debit or credit card.
In this instance, the blogger was equating the tackiness of the awards show with the EBT program (not nice!), and also playing on EBT/BET letter-switching.
Aside: If I'm not mistaken, use of EBT was presented as a convenience and technological advancement, but some see it as a way to keep folks from selling their fod stamps. |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 857
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 03:25 pm: |
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Okay Kitty, Yeah, I knew that *smile*. Your last statement, "but some see it as a way to keep folks from selling their food stamps" is true. But it ain't stopped a thang. I have to admit (hope no post police are around and if they are I am only kidding  ). Anyway, I used to buy dem der stamps, yes sir, couldn't wait for the first. Let me tell you, the EBT cards have in some ways made it more convenent. Yep, the seller has to generally come with a full deck. No more trying to sell 3 dollars worth for a hit or a pack of squares. In fact most stores around the way take them like gold. Listen, they give 50 cents or less on the dollar and get a carrying or processing charge. That's better than selling dope...well. It has cut down on the theft of the stamps, Gotta have a number.
So yeah, I can see how someone might have tagged the BET awards with EBT.
Btw, I don't buy them anymore....don't have a family to feed *smile* and I am TODAY guestioning my morals and ain't trying to go to JAIL. It's sort of an accepted behavior in the neighborhood. Oh yeah, it's kind of like going from church to the gambling boats. It's not right but that's what people DO. Let those that have not sinned......
Don't get me started on "Our" sins, me, you, they them, "I", US.
What about a time called NOW...I like that one! |
Ferociouskitty
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Username: Ferociouskitty
Post Number: 278
Registered: 02-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 03:38 pm: |
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Carey: My mom got food stamps when I was a baby, but I don't have an recollection of it.
However, when I was older, a friend of mine's family got food stamps and she used to HATE to be sent to the store with them. A group of us would go with her, and she acted like the stamps were burning her hands. At first, I would stand in line next to her, because I didn't know what the big deal was (clueless). But then I noticed how everyone else made themselves scarce when it was time for her to pay. As if the stamps were cooties or something.
I don't think people should be stigmatized for being poor. However, my mom did tell me, years later, that she was ashamed that she ever had to use them, and that her goal in life was to make sure that she never had to again, and neither would I.
Some say that part of our problem as a community is that we don't have enough shame these days, that shame, in part, motivated folks to break cycles of poverty, in generations past, but no more. I think it's more complicated than that, but I have to admit that my mother's lesson sticks with me to this day. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 10105
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 03:49 pm: |
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Ferociouskitty,
I am 100% for re-installing The Scarlet Letter for foks who willfully and repeatedly make out-of-wedlock children. And I think the babydaddies should be subject to the SAME shame bestowed upon their babymommas. |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 860
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 04:12 pm: |
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Kitty, I don't know how the conversation swung in this direction but....
You story is familiar. We were raised in the project and although the dynamics of project life has changed, you hit on a very good point. We could not receive Government Assistance but many around the neighborhood did. There was no shame but my father, like your friend, didn't feel comfortable eating or accepting the commodities. You know the flour, the butter and that span. I must admit, that canned beef was some good stuff but my father couldn't get with it. My mother, being the cook and the rock of the house would cook with it. She would fry it, dice it, smother it in gravy but dad would always have this look. Too this day I prefer butter over margerine.
I remember having the great honor of running my dads lunch down to his work place. Mom would take it right out of the skillet and I would run it down to him. He'd give me a big smile and maybe throw a nickle my way. He then would walk me to the side after proudly telling the other men that I was his boy and that I was bring him his lunch, and ask me what it was. If I told him it was some of that government stuff, he would tell me thanks and then go off to himself. I always wondered if he ate it.
You couldn't pour a hand full of food stamps on him. He wouldn't walk in a store with someone spending a food stamp. Like you grandmother, dad had to much pride to accept something that may imped his desire to get it on his own. I miss my father. |
A_womon
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Username: A_womon
Post Number: 2312
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 06:00 pm: |
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Calling it EBT awards is pretty snooty if you ask me. It sounds like once again our people label one another and dis one another and then get upset when someone like Don Imus picks up on what we're doing to each other and hammers us over the head with it.
The same people who make remarks like that are probably the same people who walk around with literary tomes tucked under their arms, making sure the titles are facing out in hopes that someone will notice what they are reading and be impressed at how "deep" they are.
In reality, we are ALL just a few more gas hikes away from being plunged into a black hole that none of us will be able to pull ourselves out of. Or maybe China will call in that 1.4? trillion* in US treasury notes the good old us of a owes them and cause a catastrophic imbalance in the world's economic system and the bottom falls out.
We might all be standing in the EBT lines ourselves...IF there is any EBT line left to stand in.
My granny always said be careful who you look down your long nose to. You just might slide off and find yourself sitting on the receiving end of that same look from someone else.
MORAL: No matter how much "better" you think you are than someone else, you will still find someone who thinks they are better than you!" |
Ferociouskitty
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Username: Ferociouskitty
Post Number: 281
Registered: 02-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 09:52 pm: |
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**There was no shame but my father, like your friend, didn't feel comfortable eating or accepting the commodities. You know the flour, the butter and that span. I must admit, that canned beef was some good stuff but my father couldn't get with it. My mother, being the cook and the rock of the house would cook with it. She would fry it, dice it, smother it in gravy but dad would always have this look. Too this day I prefer butter over margerine. **
Okay...of course this reminds me of the much-maligned gov'ment cheese. Those huge rectangular bricks in cardboard boxes. I don't recall my mom having an opinion about us getting that; but then again, maybe my grandmother got it for us...who knows.
I'm also reminded--since this is AALBC--about Louise Meriwether's gem of a book, "Daddy Was a Number Runner." In it, the families (Harlem, circa 1930s) are on "relief" and also receive canned meat they call "the gold can jive" because of the color of the label. Rumor has it that the gold can jive is really horse meat, but when times are hard, folks eat it without complaint.
It's images like that that stuck with me over the years since I last read that book as a teen. It's a great coming of age novel as well as a historical novel. It is from this book that I first heard of the historic fight between 'Bama-born Joe Louis and the German, Max Schmeling (whom Hitler was rooting for); and of the Scottsboro Boys and their case.
Anyway...what a thread of disgressions! |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 12383
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:03 pm: |
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I had no idea what "EBT" meant until you explained it, FK. Around in Chicago, food stamps have been replaced by plastic "Link" cards. It's not uncommon for people who have these cards to enter stores and approach shoppers with offers to let them run up, say, $50 worth of food in exchange for $25 cash. |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 863
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:24 pm: |
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Yeah Cyn-Cyn, that's the lick. EBT is called a Link card in Illinois.
Let me talk to my little sister a second.
A_womon, I've had a chance to re-read our posts and I don't believe anyone was putting down those that required a little assistance.
I did like your take on the "tomes under arm". Yep, there are those that do that. However, I am having a hard time making the connection. I think there was a connection made to the originator of the analogy but I don't believe anyone on this corner implied such. We did digress into a few family memories but I think it was all about good memories.
Maybe it was the connection or thought that the BET awards were...ahhh less than so why even make the connection. Is that it?
Thanks for the stories Kitty, thanks for the memories! You do that very well. |
A_womon
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Username: A_womon
Post Number: 2313
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 05:50 am: |
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Carey,
How can you say it wasn't meant as a put down? To me the remark was disparaging the awards and people on public assistance. Why else would the comment have been made? Please explain if I am getting that wrong.
And if I'm not wrong, the connection is obvious, those who consider themselves above this kind of fare should watch how they put down others who they deem "not in their class".
And that's not to say that everyone has to like the awards, but why go there to express that dislike? Why do we constantly tear down each other? I've been guilty of this, too. But I've recently been trying to change this. If we don't respect one another, how can we expect others to? . |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 867
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 11:25 am: |
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Hello A_Womon
I am so glad you are my friend and that you've grown.
I have to say you may be correct. The connection was implied so therefore obvious.
Maybe I was speaking from my own reference and defending Kitty.
To voice a complaint is not however a bad thang. Just like a movie or any other means of entertainment, we like it or we don't and therefore have the right to express that and SHOULD. I don't believe all feedback should be considered negatively.
Hey, if I have some duck butter in the corners of my eyes TELL ME. |
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