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Tonya
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Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2008 - 06:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tears Dry on Their Own - Amy Winehouse
http://youtube.com/watch?v=I6LVGcIC1Tc&feature=related


She’s a whole lot of Erykah Badu, a whole lot. They say she’s like Billie Holiday in a lot of ways, probably so. I just listened to Frank & her latest album Back to Black…the girl is unbelievable. Though their content is somewhat different, she possesses the honesty, transparency and sheer rawness of Nina Simone. I could not believe what I was hearing. She is so good that she’s kinda scary.

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Chrishayden
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Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 02:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have to listen to her again. I was not impressed by her.
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Serenasailor
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Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 11:15 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Amy Winehouse is another moderately talented White soul singer who is used to fill Black women's shoes.

Notice how all of these White, Latino and Bi-racial "soul-singers" get all of this free press for barely being able to belt out a tune. When you have really talented soul-singers like India Arie, and Fantasia who barely get noticed.

Amy Winehouse is VERY MODERATELY TALENTED!! BUT SHE IS WHITE!! And she has been paid to "run around in Black women's" shoes. Also her image is whats marketable and sells magazines opposed to Fantasia's and India Arie's.
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Tonya
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Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 02:28 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh, god,

...if HER IMAGE is what passes for us now, we are in a world of trouble. We're in trouble if she can just be us and her image is a threat to any one of us. I'm just going by her voice---but I hear your point, I do.

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Serenasailor
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Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 06:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That is true Tonya. But she is WHITE!! And for a White supremacist society that is all it needs. That ugly, camel faced, snaggle toothed bytch couldn't hold a candel to India Arie who is truly beautiful but gets much less accolades.
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Doberman23
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Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 04:48 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

just a question, let's say a young brutha likes bruce lee movies and then goes on to study karate and turns out to be quite exceptional. he then goes from that to acting in action flicks and is given props because he is pretty good and because he brings a little something different than what jet li or jackie chan having been dishing out. is this brutha represent black people in karate, or does he represent asians, or does he represent himself?

believe it or not there are people who appreciate other peoples cultures especially when it comes to music and food. just because you go home and make burrito doesn't mean your trying to be a mexican. amy winehouse appreciates older stylings of r&b soul which to many peoples taste is better than the r&b other people are putting out here. i just bought the best of dionne warrick the other day and in my opinion keisha cole or who ever else is out right now can't touch it.

tonya when you get a chance listen to "take the box" it's on the frank album ... i think you'll dig it... it's her best song to me. :-)

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Moonsigns
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Posted on Friday, April 11, 2008 - 02:35 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I like to hear Amy sing - she's talented, but I don't like to watch her sing. It's painful, like she's having drug withdrawl, which I'm sure she is.

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Doberman23
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Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 09:37 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

sometimes you have disassociate the person from their works and talents or you won't appreciate their work.... mike jackson, r. kelly, curt cobain, ect.
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Yvettep
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Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 10:11 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

sometimes you have disassociate the person from their works and talents or you won't appreciate their work

I agree. Not to say this is easy, especially in current culture where we hear of these failings concurrently with the release of the art. Supporting/enjoying the music (or other art) gets tied up in knots with hearing about the drama. In some ways, the drama becomes part of the "brand," and keeps the artist's name in the limelight. When that happens, it can seem as if by supporting the art, you are also supporting the bad/alleged bad behavior.

FOr me, the only option is just to draw my own line in the sand, with my own logic, and live with any inconsistencies. So--Cobain's brilliance I can enjoy because I reason that his behavior may have only harmed himself, Michael's because I "gre up with him"...but R. I never liked in the first place as an artist (thanks in large part to the ever present, annoying "I Believe I Can Fly") and so his drama is enough to push me over the edge of not supporting his work.

As for Winehouse, several folks have suggested her to me (including you, FK :-)). I have so far not partaken of that koolaid, though, but may have to give her a listen. I will be truly ticked off, though, if I am not twice as floored by her as I am of some truly talented African American female artists who I think deserve greater commercial success based on their talent, but who are largely ignored by mainstream outlets.
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Cynique
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Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 12:16 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, I checked out Amy on YouTube because I've been hearing so much about her, pro and con. She definitely has a mellow voice, just a tad reminiscent of Billie Holiday in her prime, but she doesn't have the phrasing or seductiveness of Lady Day. To me, as today's vocalists go, Amy's a better singer than Janet Jackson or Alicia Keyes and even Mary J. Blige. But that still just makes her good, not great.

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