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Robynmarie
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Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 690
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 08:16 pm: | 
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Looks like Senator Obama will not be attending Tavis Smiley's annual STATE OF THE BLACK NATION (or whatever he calls it) but Hillary will.
Here's Roland Martin's take
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/11/martin-clinton-obama-navigating- the-water-of-black-politics/ |
Nels
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Username: Nels
Post Number: 1044
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 09:11 pm: |
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Good. Now's NOT the time to pull out the black half. Universal appeal and eyes on the prize is the key to success at this juncture. Get to the presidency, and then he can show up on anything he wants, qualified - of course. Tavis and all of the other hot heads out there need to cool their heels and just give the program a little more time. |
Troy
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Username: Troy
Post Number: 1102
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 09:44 pm: |
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Robynmarie, Roland Martin's take seemed very wise.
Nels, "...pull out the black half."?!?
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Doberman23
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Username: Doberman23
Post Number: 1166
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 12:17 am: |
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lol! nels didn't mean what he said to come out that way. everybody knows that he needs to stay away from this sort of thing for the time being, deep down in his heart tavis knows that obama shouldn't be there right now. |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 6636
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 09:16 am: |
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He's a pimp. He got over 34 million bitches. Go head playah.
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Robynmarie
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Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 691
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 10:17 am: |
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I guess I don't understand how appearing at this gathering would hurt Senator Obama. African Americans are his biggest supporters.
I am afraid we (black folks) are doing what we are prone to do. Put our full support behind someone, and get so little in return. *sigh* |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 6639
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 10:39 am: |
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He should be made to answer the question as to why he won‘t be there.
I'd like to know. 
I hope it's televised. ahee-ahee!
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Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 11477
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 01:07 pm: |
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Well, obviously in order to keep his white voters from bolting, Obama has to assure them that he's not THAT kind of a black person, not somebody who gathers with others blacks to complain about racism and um, you know, stuff like that. Rest assured that Obama is a good nonthreatening black person who wants to change the emphasis on race, (except when it translates into blacks votes.)
But I love Obama. He can't help it if he is expedient just like all of the other politicos. Change, indeed,  |
Doberman23
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Username: Doberman23
Post Number: 1168
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 03:18 pm: |
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jesus fuggin christ! thank you cynique! reread her post for the reason why he shouldn't show up ... dumbasses! |
Robynmarie
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Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 692
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 05:31 pm: |
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I can foresee a scenario in the near future where John Edwards endorses Hillary. She may promise him a VP spot. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 9906
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 5 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 01:23 am: |
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It makes for interesting TV. But WTF has been the actual, practical, tangible good has come from this program?
WHAT?
And one thing I've always observed to be glaringly ommitted from that program has been how there is almost no stressing of the importances of Black men and women committing to each other and raising children together (I think the lone Republican speaker during the last year's program, a lady state senator, did so.). You can't do much of a dayam thing to remedy the many problems we have until THAT point is potently observed.
So...where there hell are Tavis' Black WIFE and CHILDREN?
I'm very SUSPICIOUS of a man who presumes himself to be capable of guiding millions of Black foks YET seems, for whatever reason, uninterested in or incapable of making a family - the core and bedrock of ANY people, community and/or race - with ONE Black person.
And if Hillary does attend the program (and the ONLY reason she would would be to attempt to make up for the race-baiting tactics she and Bill have pulled during the champaign) I hope someone ask her to provide an HONEST answer to why she and the Clinton Administration promote and sign-off on Welfare Reform, 3-strike prison sentencing, NAFTA and the Iraq War and why she thinks LBJ did more to help Black foks than MLK. |
Robynmarie
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Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 694
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 08:48 am: |
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I too hope HRC is asked the hard questions should she appear at Tavis' gathering.
But this is the real reason Senator Obama won't be sitting down for a chat-
"Obama Unplugged:
Lost without a Teleprompter"
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/728ofzey.asp |
Yvettep
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Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 2642
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 10:25 am: |
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I've enjoyed most of the interviews I've heard with Sen Obama. Here is a recent one with Michel Martin: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18876524.
One of the things he addresses is voting rights for DC--a big issue for me personally. |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 6655
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 10:41 am: |
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Voting rights: so safe even a caveman can do it. (gol) |
Yvettep
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Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 2644
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 10:44 am: |
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Not sure about that, Tonya, since no president up to now has really addressed it, let alone accomplished it. Even our "first Black one" did not have it as a priority! LOL! |
Yvettep
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Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 2645
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 10:48 am: |
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ABM, I am just curious: What makes you think Smiley seems unable/uninterested in having a family? Because he is whatever age he is and is not married and does not have kids? I do not know enough about him to know if he has ever addressed this publicly. But I'd rather he (or anyone) not partner up and have little ones just to achieve some sort of authenticity... |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 6657
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 11:00 am: |
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Hey Robyn, I hope HRC is fully vetted by Tavis Smiley too. But honestly I think she's done more than her share to resurrect feminism. Win or lose women will be thanking her for decades for that…especially if she ends up a martyr.
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Robynmarie
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Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 696
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 11:05 am: |
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Tonya-At least she is showing up. It could be a hostile audience, but she is never afraid to go into the Lion's den. You can tell a lot about how a person acts, not when they are winning, but when they are facing adversity.
Senator Obama is into avoidance. Funny thing is, Senator Obama will be the main topic of discussion at this forum, yet he refuses to attend.
Do you think we will see another viable woman candidate for the POTUS? If so, who do you think as a shot?
HRC is only 60, if she doesn't make it these time, she can always run again-after the guys mess things up one more time. LOL. |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 6658
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 11:18 am: |
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Robyn, If Hillary loses this race the next president (after 4-8 more years of McCain & the Republicans) will almost certainly be a woman. The sad part tho is it'll be done out of overwhelming guilt.
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Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 6660
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 11:47 am: |
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And I would have said Claire McCaskill has a shot (as next woman prez) but I don’t know how she’d fare after backing Obama.
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Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 9909
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 11:49 am: |
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Yvettep,
It not an issue of authenticity as much as one of 'relatability'. Can one actually RELATE to the key, core problems you propose to cure within the Black community?
You can't effectively educate and train Black children, protect them from drugs, AIDS/HIV, racism and prepare them to be good, productive adults, parents and citizens if their family - the primary basis from which they are to learn and receive such - is in shambles.
And, I think, that program failure to focus on Black family, particular with and starting from the core unit of Black woman and Black man, is reflective Tavis' (and MANY other Black foks) missing (or avoiding) the true source of MOST of our current problems.
It's easy to spout off kneegrow cure-alls when you have no real, tangible connection to the greatest problem that confronts all of us: the dying Black family.
If you don't really know and feel what it means to struggle to make a Black family, to worry about, struggle with and fight for a wife or husband and/or children you cannot not know a substantial part of what the Black experience is REALLY all about. |
Robynmarie
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Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 697
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 11:54 am: |
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I thought about Claire McCaskill, too, though I am not sure how she would play in the bigger, urban areas. There is a congresswoman here in California named Loretta Sanchez. She is a possiblity. |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 6661
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 12:29 pm: |
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Robyn, I think that's why she backed Obama - to increase her standings in urban areas, but it might have been a mistake. Loretta Sanchez sounds great. A secret dream ticket of mine is a Clinton-Waters ticket.  I can dream, can’t I?? LOL
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Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 11494
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 03:29 pm: |
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Tavis comes from a very large family; he has seven younger brothers and 2 older sisters. He's not entirely clueless when it comes to family life and child rearing. |
Robynmarie
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Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 698
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Votes: 5 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 06:07 pm: |
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Senator Obama offered for his wife Michelle to attend Tavis' party and Tavis said thanks but no thanks.
I love the way Senator Obama brings folks together. LMAO> |
Nels
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Username: Nels
Post Number: 1045
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 08:53 pm: |
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Tonya --
"He got over 34 million bitches."
You left yourself out.
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Nels
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Username: Nels
Post Number: 1046
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 4 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 08:55 pm: |
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Tavis just wants to be HNIC. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 9918
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2008 - 07:39 am: |
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Nels: "Tavis just wants to be HNIC."
*Daps!* |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2968
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2008 - 05:31 pm: |
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"Tavis just wants to be HNIC."
Ya got that right....!!!!!!! |
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