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Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 2946
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 04:43 pm: | 
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Old news but nevertheless -very tragic and horrifc.
BE CAREFUL WHO YOU LET AROUND YOUR DAUGHTER!
CINCINNATI, Ohio. The baby's birth at University Hospital on Nov. 4, 2007 was routine.
What wasn't routine was the fact the infant's mother was just 10, impregnated by her mother's boyfriend.
Now, social workers are trying to figure out how to unravel the mess involving one of the youngest children ever to give birth in Greater Cincinnati.
Prosecutors were in court Wednesday to discuss what to do with both children, the newborn and her now 11-year-old mom.
The court session in Hamilton County Dependency Court on Wednesday was primarily a status session on how both the baby and young mother are doing. At the same time Wednesday, Lockland police were in Columbus talking to a convict whose DNA shows he's the baby girl's father.
Michael Chaffer, 40, is accused of impregnating his girlfriend's 10-year-old daughter, according to Hamilton County prosecutors.
The baby's birth set off an investigation by the Hamilton County Department of Job and Family Services and stunned social workers because the baby's mother is so young.
The baby has been taken from her mother and put in a foster home while the child-mother is now being taken care of by a relative. Her mother is not allowed to see the baby and can only see her daughter when supervised by social workers.
Lawyers jammed the courtroom Wednesday, representing the prosecutor's office and all three generations of the family.
The girl's mother was warned not to let any adult men in her Lockland home while caseworkers tried to track down the infant's father.
Paternity was not determined until Wednesday morning.
Prosecutors say the girl's mother ignored that order to keep adult men away from her child, and when a caseworker made a surprise visit to her Lockland home Jan. 4, they found Chaffer.
Assistant Hamilton County Prosecutor Lee Slocum said Chaffer faces criminal charges for impregnating and sexually molesting a girl under the age of 13.
Lockland Police Chief James Toles said two officers were interviewing Chaffer on Wednesday in a Columbus prison, where he is serving a one-year sentence on an unrelated charge.
Sex with a child under 13 is considered statutory rape, a crime punishable with a life prison term.
As JFS investigated the case, several relatives of the 11-year-old girl contacted the agency saying Chaffer sexually abused the girl for a "period of time."
The 11-year-old girl's mother is also under investigation, Slocum said, for allowing her daughter to be abused.
Job and Family Services workers can't remember a case in which a girl so young gave birth.
"Unfortunately, sexual abuse is pretty common in the cases we see," said JFS Director Moira Weir. "But it is highly unusual and extremely sad to see a case where a 10-year-old becomes pregnant.
"This is an example of why everyone in the community needs to be extremely vigilant about watching for the signs of abuse and notifying us through our 241-KIDS hotline," she added. "The sooner we can intervene, the sooner we can make sure the child is in a safe situation."
Hamilton County prosecutors want a court designation that the 11-year-old girl was abused. They allege the 11-year-old's mother failed to care for her by allowing Chaffer near her.
Prosecutors also want to take the infant away from the mother because the sixth-grade student is too young to care for the baby.
As she waited for the hearing to start, the child, who was wearing faded jeans and a T-shirt hoody with her hair tied into a ponytail, sat next to her mother. She chatted about school, music and Disney video games.
During the hearing, as prosecutors and attorneys discussed the case and the possibility that the 11-year-old could lose her baby, she wiped away tears with the palms of her hands.
At Wednesday's hearing, Magistrate Charles Milazzo determined the girl could visit her baby at least twice a week.
But he said the 11-year-old girl's mother may see her only if social workers can supervise the visits, and that she may not see the baby.
Authorities became aware of the birth after the 11-year-old girl delivered the baby at University Hospital. Hospital officials notified JFS because the mother was so young.
The 11-year-old girl and the infant were allowed to remain in the mother's home while JFS investigated the case. Two other men were eliminated as the baby's father before Chaffer's DNA was tested.
When the caseworker found Chaffer in the home Jan. 4 - a violation of JFS' order that no men be in the home - they arrested him on a charge of obstruction of official business.
Court records show Chaffer slammed the door on the officer and refused to open it.
Chaffer pleaded guilty to that charge the next day, which violated his probation on an earlier drug charge. As a result he was sent to prison for one year.
JFS immediately took the 11-year-old girl and infant from the home.
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Abm
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 05:46 pm: |
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Are these foks Black? |
Renata
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Poor, sweet child. Her mother should be sitting in jail NEXT TO that jackass of a being that I won't even complement by calling a man.
I was so hoping that perhaps this child had been impregnated by a 12 or 13 year old friend. I so hope her life gets better after this and that she'll be able to stay in touch with her child in the future.
I just found out about two weeks ago that a cousin who's only one month older than I am (I'm 33) just had her SECOND grandchild.
GRANDCHILD!! She had her son when she was 16 and now her son is getting started early as well.
That blew my mind. I'm barely getting over potty training. |
Tonya
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 03:06 pm: |
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"Prosecutors say the girl's mother ignored that order to keep adult men away from her child, and when a caseworker made a surprise visit to her Lockland home Jan. 4, they found Chaffer."
Why am I not surprised that a Black woman would put a Black man before her own Black children? I’m not even surprised that a Black woman would do it this way.
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Cynique
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Post Number: 11413
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 05:12 pm: |
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The bigger picture begs the question as to what are all of these fortified chemically-treated foods doing to our pre-teen girls to make them mature enough at 10 years old to be able to conceive a child???? Talk about babies having babies!  |
Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 2947
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 09:51 pm: |
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"Are these foks Black?"
Yes........
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Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 2948
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Votes: 4 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 09:59 pm: |
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"Why am I not surprised that a Black woman would put a Black man before her own Black children? I’m not even surprised that a Black woman would do it this way."
Why should I be surprised you would asked that question? Obviously you don't know many black women. At least none of any moral standing or intelligence. None of the black women I know would have allowed this to happen. In fact, race has no bearing on this case. It was a sexually degenerate male and a criminally negligent mother. Neither represent the average person of their race or gender. E'nuff said.....
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Doberman23
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 03:26 am: |
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i agree with you ntfs, tonya i see why you love hilldawg so much ... because you don't have any sense.
cynique once again you hit another bullseye! i didn't even think it was possible for a girl that young to reproduce.
that man is dead, or he will wish he was once he is in the slammer. any grown ass man who can become aroused by a preteen need not even be aloud to breath. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 2952
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 06:12 am: |
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Why should I be surprised you would ask such a question? Obviously you don't know many black women. At least none of any moral standing....."
Sorry for the typos. I need to proof read these things before posting...sigh............
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Tonya
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Take care of your community fools, then try to step like real men, with a meaningful say on what goes down in this world. |
Tonya
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 08:12 am: |
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...That's to the two fools up top and nobody else, mind your bizniz. |
Renata
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 08:24 am: |
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LOL....Tonya, I don't know what kind of women you're hanging out with (or ARE).
There was a case in TX a couple of years back of cops who had to be called on a white woman......psycho bytch chased her daughter around the house with a gun (she was between age 10 and 12, but I don't remember the exact age) when she found out that her boyfriend had been molesting the child. Actually threatened to kill the CHILD and accused her of trying to steal her boyfriend! What a psycho. I soooooooo wanted to meet that lady.
My great grandmother was married at 11 and had her first child at 12. I don't know if it has a lot to do with things in the food. However, we do seem to be seeing a lot more of younger girls getting pregnant, but that may have to do more with the change in society's acceptance of pre-marital sex and unwed teen mothers. Or a little of both. |
Abm
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 08:58 am: |
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Ntfs,
What always amazes me MOST about such tragedies is there almost NEVER any mentioning of the FATHER of the minor victims (or perpetrators).
And this is almost ALWAYS the case when those involved are Black. |
Tonya
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Reneta, I don't have any kids and there aren't many women in my family that have kids and aren't financially stable and married. I’m just going by the statistics, or are we still pretending they don‘t matter?
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Renata
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Show me statistics anywhere that black women are more likely to abuse or allow their children to be abused than white women. |
Abm
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Ntfs,
I think we would agree that you've presented a very deviant EXCEPTION to the rule of how MOST Black mothers think and behave.
MOST Black mothers, regardless of their economics, education and social standing, attempt put their children welfare ahead of that of their boyfriends. Hell, if anything, they often go TOO far in that regard (e.g., overly indulging the whims/desire of spoiled, selfish, petulant kids) to the detriment of relationships with good men, including even their husbands and/or their childrens' fathers. |
Tonya
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 09:14 am: |
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Close to 80% of Black kids are growing up with no-good daddies. That's abuse to me, by Black women AND Black men. And it ain't worth a piece of (HIV infected) dick.
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Renata
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 09:24 am: |
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LOL....you know what the hell I mean. Physical, sexual, mental abuse.
ABM, we have a thing in MS......if a woman has a boyfriend who abuses her children and she won't beat the hell out of him herself, chances are she and her boyfriend will be getting a really personal visit from a few family members.
Tonya, its women like you who end up telling our sons that black women are nothing and won't take good care of their children and they should look elsewhere for a wife....without telling them that a white woman might kill or abuse their kids as well. |
Abm
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 09:32 am: |
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Renata,
Sounds like a plan, though I would prefer the woman confront that mofo WITH her family members. |
Abm
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 09:37 am: |
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Renata,
One of dilemmas of the liberation of women is you have MANY women raising children WITHOUT the daily contact, backing and support of extended family. And that makes it easier for naredowells to prey upon them and their kids.
This isn't a polemic of feminism. This is just a real and valid consequence of it. |
Renata
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 09:39 am: |
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Some go that route as well. My family is known to be like that.
Actually, my family kind of shows up in groups to help with any fight. LOL |
Abm
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 09:43 am: |
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Renata,
Good. I think its very important to have it communicated to a man that if he messes over some woman and/or her kids there will be some serious consequences and repercussion that might NOT have a dayam thing to do with police, courts and prisons. |
Tonya
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Reneta growing up with a no-good dad is mental abuse.
And I ain't telling our sons nothing. F/uck our sons for a minute. We need to start telling our daughters they don't have to settle for a no-good piece of trash for no reason. And I'm not talking ABOUT Black women. That's not my style, you know that. I'm talking TO us. Cuz I think it's time we start caring for our f/ucking selves, and stop carrying the weight of the entire community by our god damn selves.
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Renata
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Women who get preyed upon like this are WEAK, whether they have support of their family or not. It doesn't matter if you're taking care of your kids alone and not even your own mother will back you, you don't allow shyt like this to happen to your kids unless you're a weak bytch who shouldn't be having kids at all. |
Renata
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 09:55 am: |
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Tonya, you lost me when you said you said the following:
Why am I not surprised that a Black woman would put a Black man before her own Black children? I’m not even surprised that a Black woman would do it this way.
As if you didn't even THINK anyone else could have done this. As a mother myself and as someone who knows how other mothers that I know can be, I'm actually quite surprised when ANYONE does something like this. |
Abm
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 09:58 am: |
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Renata,
I was speaking more generally to the issue of protecting women and children. But I wholeheartedly concur there is NO excuse for what this woman knowingly allowed to happen to her child. |
Tonya
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Cuz I'm not surprised, Reneta, little Black girls are sexually abused by people their mothers know all the time. And I'm not giving a care about what other folks do. Other folks aren't raising a community of fatherless children, and other folks aren't dropping off like flies (from AIDS and poverty) like they're living in some 3rd world country.
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Tonya
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 10:44 am: |
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And here's another thing I'm not doing:
"As a mother myself and as someone who knows how other mothers that I know can be, I'm actually quite surprised when ANYONE does something like this."
I have no idea what your parenting skills are like so I'm not talking about YOU.
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Renata
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 11:30 am: |
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You don't care what other people do, but they DO it. So it's interesting that you're less surprised when it happens to us than when it happens to anyone else.
It's just that the way you state it, it's a trait INHERENT in blacks, an anomaly in others. |
Tonya
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 12:21 pm: |
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There you go putting words in my mouth again. You don't know how I am when it happens to someone else. Maybe I don't give a damn. Or maybe you are way too sensitive to this subject - who knows...?
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Renata
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 09:50 am: |
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LOL....putting words into your mouth? You stated THREE POSTS ago that you don't care what happens to other folks.
If you're going to state something, don't act all amnesiac when someone refutes it. |
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