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Mochascafe
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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 06:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Obama 08

The anti Obama claptrap from Black people is most times Negro trickery, either they are with Bill 2 (Hilary). I read there’s even a Negro for Biden, or else like the anarchist minded folks who come on Super Left, they are so militant they opt for passivity & content themselves with merely calling their perceived enemies names. The mask of the foolish juvenile delinquent left who sees no progress in doing anything but name calling.

That’s how you got rid of Dinkins, he was too conservative, so you hooted and hollered until you got a real militant, Adolph Giuliani & here we are today w/ yr boy the billionaire mayor whose nose opens wider each day at the sight of Obama running. Like Rock & Roll, it needs our inspiration!

But it has got to be clear that the less we do, the less we can expect Obama to respond to us. It is the fundament reaction of most politicians that they respond to the sharpest presence, although we shd know that under the capitalist election shenanigans, it is always money that speaks loudest, which is why one of our constant calls in trying to transform the US political culture, that we demand all private monies be eliminated from elections. In fact the first of our ongoing political tasks is to relentlessly call for the transformation of the US Political culture! The elimination of the Electoral College, One Person, One vote, to eliminate the anti democratic Winner take all system. The abolition of the Senate to be replaced by a single (unicameral) House of Representatives. Restoration of voting rights to ex felons. Elections of a single day, direct democracy i.e. voting at the workplace, school &c compulsory voting …if taxation is compulsory, voting shd be too.

But those are a few of the tasks to be taken up by an energized Black population and in alliance with a Left Block of the broadest population no matter what happens ultimately to Obama. Yet it is the most obvious infantile left-anarchist error that haunts our movement, to constantly be talking about Revolution and not even participate in one of the most obvious ways of seizing some power.

I have heard seriously flawed arguments that Obama is not “Black enough”! You better be checking out his politics not his melanin. Though w/ an African father and very Black grandmother, he probably closer to the Mother land than most of us straight out Black Americans, for whom our direct connection with Africa was over by the 19th c.
Plus is Hilary or Edwards blacker? Despite some deluded Bloods I know who called Bill Clinton “the lst Black president”, is that why he passed that crime bill, wasted welfare & established states’ right on many social programs.

We are the people of the double consciousness, both Black & American, but if we understand DuBois’ equation properly we shd know that mean that we struggle for equal Citizenship rights as well as Self Determination!

To support Obama is to grasp both ends of that double consciousness, aware of the contradiction but also the dialectic that makes that social twoness of use to us.
But we must understand that we are now at a stage of struggle for a People’s Democracy, a Revolutionary Democracy, where our maximum accomplishment at this stage of struggle wd be a United Front Government, based on an alliance of multinational workers, the progressive petty bourgeoisie, farmers , all democratic forces and even with the shaky national bourgeoisie. Such an accomplishment wd still be a transitional stage, but an incrementally closer step toward socialism.

National oppression, racism, the oppression of women and gays will never cease until monopoly capitalism is put under control and then depowered and then eliminated. But we cannot airbrush or dismiss as unnecessary all those stages that will one day enable us to do that.

The mass support of Obama by the national Afro American movement, especially its progressive sector will reinvigorate our struggle. We can not merely stand on the side lines and be chumped-off , mumbling as one super-militant sister in DC recently read in a poem putting down Hilary & Obama & ending “Only the white man will win”. A white racist cd’ve sd that! Is that all were good for now?

The Republican Right has co-opted the Negro as a bow to the civil rights movement. Slicker than the Democrats. Condoleeza, Tom Ass, The Colon, have been energized like that Battery operated rabbit to delude the lowest of us here & around the world. , that somehow that represents real democracy. We must enter into that mainstream struggle & make our own demands, utilize the pressure of our needs & our numbers. We are almost fifty million people with the 16th GNP in the world...almost 600 Billion dollars a year. We have the muscle and the money – We need to make our move.

A massive Afro American presence around Obama’s campaign shd be utilized by us not only to renew the Afro American struggle, but also as a method of recreating the reality of a national Afro American political assembly, democratically elected from all 50 states, able to support our friends, oppose our enemies in whatever way we see fit!

With such a presence we cd have stopped the Bush seizure of power in Florida & so prevented the Ohio recurrence. The Black American must have a self determined power base and the ignition spark can be brought into focus and perhaps one ignition spark can be supplied by our consolidating a correct relationship to the Obama campaign. No matter what America does in the nomination or election!


Amiri Baraka 1/16/08
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Cynique
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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 07:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The familiar radical rhetoric of an over-the-hill-revolutionary who, in effect, is calling for the dismantling of the white power structure.
I wonder how enthusiastic Obama would be over this endorsement. And is this the change that undecided and independent white voters are looking for?
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Mochascafe
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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 10:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Actually, Hulk Hogan's endorsement may do more for him :-)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 08:45 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In a nutshell: Black people, let's band together and vote for Obama so we can overthrow whitey. That's hilarious! Someone needs to tell Baraka to get the hell outta the 60s and retire his daishiki and fist pick.
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 11:02 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Black people, let's band together and vote for Obama so we can overthrow whitey

(That isn't what he said at all.

You tremble at the mere name of Baraka, don't you?)
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 11:03 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The familiar radical rhetoric of an over-the-hill-revolutionary who, in effect, is calling for the dismantling of the white power structure

(OH NO SHE DIDN'T

Called somebody else "over the hill"?

Lemme tell ya, at least he still gets out of the house and sees people.

Who the hell is Cynique? Hahahahaha!)
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Cynique
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Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 12:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I get out of the house and see people all the time, crissy. Just went to a black history gathering this week-end.
Too bad you don't have a hill to get over. You're still wallowing around down in the pits, trying to get people to take you seriously. poor ol fella.
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Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 09:03 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, Chris, you have your interpretation and I have mine. I find this paragraph most telling:

A massive Afro American presence around Obama’s campaign shd be utilized by us not only to renew the Afro American struggle, but also as a method of recreating the reality of a national Afro American political assembly, democratically elected from all 50 states, able to support our friends, oppose our enemies in whatever way we see fit!
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Cynique
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Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 09:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Don't try to talk sense or logic to chrishayden. He can't think past his nose.

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