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Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 6075
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 01:03 pm: | 
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The polls were wrong, they say.
Funny the pollsters called the Republican contest right on the money.
What is the difference?
The CLINTONS that's what.
THEY STOLE THE ELECTION!
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Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 11123
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 01:17 pm: |
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Why am I not surprised that YOU would say this, chrishayden. It never occurs to you that people lie to pollsters or that the undecided didn't vote the way they were projected to. Nothing is predictable about this contest, except the reaction of people like you, who have a need to gloat and who can't handle set-backs.  |
Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 6077
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 01:29 pm: |
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Why am I not surprised that YOU would say this, chrishayden. It never occurs to you that people lie to pollsters or that the undecided didn't vote the way they were projected to.
(The Democrats lied--but the Republicans didn't
Where else did this happen
Can you say, Florida, 2000?
The Clinton's stole it! ) |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 11125
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 01:39 pm: |
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If it consoles you to believe that older women and white people didn't supply Hillary with a victory, chrishayden, then just keep indulging your paranoia. |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 11127
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 01:55 pm: |
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It was also reported that younger voters didn't turn out in the numbers expected. So go take a cold shower, chrishayden. It's a long time between January and November. |
Nels
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Username: Nels
Post Number: 994
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 09:16 pm: |
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The Clinton's manipulated the media and made suckers out of a lot of people. Does anyone really believe that Hillary and her crowd are going to change their "attack dog" style after having it server them so well for the last twenty-five plus years? |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 11140
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 10:54 pm: |
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Why wouldn't they change their tactics, since the new and improved Hillary turned things around for her campaign??? And how does their previous attack style make them different from other candidates. Politics is a dirty game. Just ask the battle-scarred Hillary.
I don't know why the posters on the board can't just forthrightly say I'm for Obama and that's that. Instead, his petulant supporters try to canonize him and demonize his opponents.  |
Yvettep
AALBC .com Platinum Poster
Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 2530
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 08:39 am: |
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Instead, his petulant supporters try to canonize him and demonize his opponents.
And Clinton supporters on this board haven't done the same? Uh, OK! LOL
Hey, that is the nature of this kind of communication. No one should expect true discussion or nuanced debate. Which is why I will mainly stick to my message of "whoever you support, get out there and walk the walk!" |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 11141
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 11:48 am: |
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I don't think anybody has tried to canonize Hillary. Everybody recognizes her shortcomings. But at least nobody has called Obama a fag.  |
Crystal
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Username: Crystal
Post Number: 373
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 11:53 am: |
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OK Cynique I ain't scurred!
I'm voting for the Black Man on GP. |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 11143
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 12:11 pm: |
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Your forthrightness is commendable, Crystal. Me, I'm still fence-sitting because I'm not that blown-away by any of the candidates, but whomever the Democrats select, I will vote for. |
Yvettep
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Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 2535
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 12:30 pm: |
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I don't think anybody has tried to canonize Hillary.
No, just made her a superhero. (*wink* @ Tonya  ) |
Ntfs_encryption
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2944
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 01:49 pm: |
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"....I'm still fence-sitting because I'm not that blown-away by any of the candidates...."
So am I....... |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 9805
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 10:57 am: |
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Ntfs,
Who was the last Presidential candidate you were "blown-away by"? |
Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 6098
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 11:00 am: |
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Bloggers form theory that New Hampshire vote was rigged
Posts question polls' inaccuracy, point to documentary on fraud
08:12 AM CST on Thursday, January 10, 2008
By KAREN BROOKS / The Dallas Morning News
kmbrooks@dallasnews.com
AUSTIN – The results weren't even in when the blogosphere started to hum with a theory that sharply divided Democrats online: Barack Obama lost to Hillary Rodham Clinton in New Hampshire because the vote was rigged.
"Something stinks in New Hampshire," a commenter posted on the popular liberal site Americablog.com.
Curious about the "wildly inaccurate" polls that put Mr. Obama in a double-digit lead going into Tuesday's primary, blogger Brad Friedman, a Los Angeles-based election-fraud watchdog, questioned the results as soon as they arrived, and all day Wednesday.
"Other folks that I've spoken to, who follow this sort of thing, share my concern at this hour," he wrote on bradblog.com. "If I was Barack Obama, I'd certainly not have conceded this election this quickly. I'm not quite sure what he was thinking."
An Obama representative said the campaign is not alleging that fraud occurred. Clinton aides did not return calls seeking comment.
But the buzz grew all day Wednesday as bloggers across the nation keyed into the fact that 81 percent of New Hampshire votes were being counted on machines that an HBO documentary alleged are easily hacked. It also didn't hurt that New Hampshire was the site of a recount after allegations of fraud in 2004, spotlighted in the much-praised documentary.
It wasn't just on the Democratic side: Supporters of Texas Republican U.S. Rep. Ron Paul were pointing to discrepancies in at least one town, where dozens of votes cast were initially counted as zero – before an elections official corrected the error. Mr. Paul's campaign did not return calls seeking comment.
From Americablog.com to Crooks and Liars to several news blogs, readers posted their concerns – drawing the gleeful eye of conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh on Wednesday morning, who pointed to a debate raging on Democratic Underground.
That site, which has more than 100,000 registered users, was alive with debate throughout the day – mainly between Obama supporters and Clinton fans.
"Please come back to your senses," one commenter wrote. "What is most disturbing is the fact some people are accusing the fellow Democrats of fraud. Please, dear reasonable Obama supporter, tell those people to stop."
Some of the nation's most prominent bloggers sparred over the issue as well. Markos Moulitsas, who runs the popular site DailyKos, called the allegations "a load of bull" from "a bunch of cranks." Mr. Moulitsas, who has said he'll vote for Mr. Obama, also said it was typical of the blogosphere to host a "tiny minority" who pose "wild claims."
"This is the price you pay for a medium that democratizes media access," he said. "But really, is that any different than traditional media outlets who pushed the conspiracy theory that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction? A little skepticism from the public in regards to all media would be well advised."
Mr. Friedman took issue with that characterization, saying the process should be transparent and trustworthy, and that the polls were "wildly out of whack" with the results – combined with the questionable machines – should be enough to raise concerns.
"It's no longer a theory that these systems are vulnerable to tampering," he said. "And it doesn't take a conspiracy, it takes one real person."
Online-buzz trackers said the conversation still hasn't grown to the point where it's more than a blip on the radar, if even that. But that could change if the objections gain traction, said Pete Blackshaw, executive vice president of strategic services for Nielsen Online, which tracks blogs and buzz on the Web.
"It could bubble into a broader conversation," he said. "What will be interesting is, to what extent does the hoopla run into the next [contest]? ... For a lot of the bloggers, they're going to have to run the calculus of [whether] prying into this issue of alleged fraud is ... a better conversation starter than the next primary.
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Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 9807
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 11:17 am: |
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I don't know about New Hampshire being rigged. But I find it very odd that prior to Iowa, Clinton had a double-digit lead in New Hampshire polls, then after Iowa she's double-digits behind in NH only to then win by 2 - 3 points.
And all that sh*t went down within a ONE week's time.
I almost think the bogus polling was done boister Clinton's campaigning via phonying up some humungous media-driven comeback win for Hillary that she was always going to get to begin with. |
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