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Troy
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Username: Troy
Post Number: 1455
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2008 - 01:24 pm: | 
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Flesh to Flesh edited by Lee A Hayes
http://tinyurl.com/5lfs8t
This is an anthology of gay erotica. Also published by Zane's Strebor Books International |
Hen81
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Username: Hen81
Post Number: 127
Registered: 09-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2008 - 02:01 pm: |
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Brown front wrapper or from behind the counter. I wonder if at some point there will be behind the counter books in major chains.
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Authorterralittle
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Post Number: 34
Registered: 05-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2008 - 07:29 pm: |
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Very...interesting. It certainly leaves little to the imagination. Unlike my title, I wouldn't be confused about the storyline when/if I picked it up.
Hen81 - > Do you say behind the counter because kids could get ahold to it or...?
Troy - > What do you think about it? |
Hen81
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Post Number: 129
Registered: 09-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2008 - 08:19 pm: |
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Yes, my thoughts are the kids. Bookstore are open and kids roam. Book covers will draw reactions. There may be some that decide where the line is. The problem is there is no way to know if it's crossed until someone complains.
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Authorterralittle
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 05-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2008 - 11:12 pm: |
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Hen81, your post reminds me of the time my then middle school daughter came home with a street-lit title and left it on the kitchen table. Me being a reader and her not really being a reader, as evidenced by the fact that she forgot about the book almost instantly, I picked it up to see what she was reading. Got to flipping through that bad boy and was like, what? No plot, not clear storyline, just one non-passionate, senseless sex scene after another. I hurried up and announced to my daughter that I was confiscating the book, after I drilled her to near coma about lots of stuff I can't even remember now, that is. So she says to me, "My friend got that from the library. She let me borrow it." And I know she wasn't lying that time because, aside from the fact that it was indeed a library book, I've gotten library cards for her and later found them at the bottom of my purse - unused, expired and unloved. She probably told me she'd get it from me later or something and never did. So I told her to tell her friend to have either the library or her mother call me if they wanted the book returned. Never got that call and I figured the fees the little girl's mother had to pay were just desserts for having selected something she had little business reading in the first place.
Another time, there was an anthology of love stories, one of which was all up in two mens' business. I snatched that bad boy, too, and 'bout talked her into end-stage REM. She says, "That's my friend's mother's book." To which I responded that she should advise her friend that I now had possession of the book and if her mother wanted it back, her mother needed to contact me. And, "Does her mother know she's reading this shit?" My response was a clueless shrug and I never did hear from the mother, so after awhile I tossed that bad boy.
I know the draw, at least for my non-reading daughter, was the sex scenes...had to be. I've had to dust off copies of To Kill A Mockingbird and Little Women so many times I finally felt sorry for them and added them back into my collection, where they'd be appreciated and tended to. Mention reading for pleasure and enlightenment and she starts dropping off into a quiet sleep.
So now, what are our kids wrapping their happy little hands around when our backs are turned... why...and where are they getting the goodies from?
Kind of off-topic, but as I said, you triggered a memory... |
Hen81
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Username: Hen81
Post Number: 130
Registered: 09-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 12:20 am: |
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Authorterralittle,
I know what sells today and good for them if it pays the bills. I fell it's like the nuclear arms race. To get noticed takes more and more attention grabbing cover art. The content has been there for years but content doesn't leap out of the book so the covers have to compete harder to grab attention. Looking at the street lit. section is a flesh fest as publishers vie for attention.
Like I said, there is a line but it will be crossed before anyone knows about it because there are no rules. I think it will be customer feedback that does it. That will be a case by case situation.
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Libralind2
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Post Number: 1082
Registered: 09-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 02:14 pm: |
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All I have to say about the cover is I was embarrassed while in Barnes & Nobles recently to purchase a book for my granddaughter that she HAD TO HAVE for class. They were reading Kindred and I would have loved to purchase from a black book store..anywho I digress. I walked by a display table with covers like "BIT&H" WHORE" you get my point, let alone covers that left nothing to the imagination and I just shook my head. Do authors have the freedom to put this type of work out and do I support their right..? Absolutley. But I was still embarrassed
LiLi |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 7239
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 03:27 pm: |
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Yep. If I saw that I'd figure there was gay subject matter in the book.
Though not explicit, it is probably too hot for libraries, WAl Marts, etc.
It will probably cost the author some sales. |
Authorterralittle
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 05-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 03:39 pm: |
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Chrishayden said, "It will probably cost the author some sales."
I don't know if that will end up being the case. It has Zane's name on it/behind it and its erotica. That combination alone will sell it. I could be wrong, though. |
Hen81
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Post Number: 135
Registered: 09-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 04:17 pm: |
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Authorterralittle,
There could be an issue with the cover as it relates to sales. There was a thread on this board before that dealt with this very issue:
http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/1/36751.html?1210895953
http://DTPollard.com
http://myspace.com/dtpollard |
Troy
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Username: Troy
Post Number: 1461
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2008 - 10:11 am: |
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Authorterralittle, I don't particularily care for the cover. However, it is no more risqué than some of the Calvin Klein ads I've seen plastered on the side of buses (I don't care for those ads either).
Perhaps if I were a gay man I would feel differently about the cover -- but I'm not so sure about that.
If you replaced the dude in the bed with a woman and made it a book of hetero erotica; I would still have a problem with the cover.
That said, I would have no have no problem with putting the book on the web site; if Zane/Strebor decided to buy an ad.
It did occur to me to put the book up just to gauge visitor reaction. Then again I think I'm getting an indication.
It woukd be interesting to hear what others think. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 12605
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2008 - 04:21 pm: |
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Do females and gay guys have the same taste in men? I don't find the guy on the cover at all appealing. He looks like Charles Barkley after a photo-shop touch up. EU. |
Ferociouskitty
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Username: Ferociouskitty
Post Number: 384
Registered: 02-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2008 - 05:05 pm: |
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What about the idea that men are far more visual creatures than women are? Do women, hetero or gay, get as excited about such (naked, half-naked) covers as men do?
Visuals of naked men don't do much for me. It's not a prudish thing; it's a not-easily-stimulated-visual thing. The Rundu calendar images get passed around a bit, and after the initial shock wore off, my interest waned.
If someone wants me to buy a book based on superficials, they should attach a CD of Morgan Freeman reading the phone book to it. Or rub some really good men's cologne on it. ;-) |
Ferociouskitty
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Post Number: 385
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2008 - 05:06 pm: |
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^not-easily-stimulated-visualLY thing |
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