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Troy
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Username: Troy
Post Number: 669
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 22, 2007 - 06:21 pm: | 
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"Stephen L. Carter, an African American law professor at Yale, received a $4 million advance and as much as $1 million more for the film rights for his new fiction novel, The Emperor of Ocean Park, which was the subject of a publishing house bidding war."
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0DXK/is_2_18/ai_72959116
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Yukio
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Username: Yukio
Post Number: 2467
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 23, 2007 - 02:12 am: |
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This is in 01 brotha Troy...when is the damn film s'pose to come out? |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 4740
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 23, 2007 - 11:17 am: |
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The book was a piece of crap--well, it might have been good for a first time young novelist but for a Yale Law Professor it was crap.
This guy must have a great agent to get all that dough for a book that was so lousy. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5019
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 23, 2007 - 01:04 pm: |
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That's A LOT of money! It's no wonder that so many people are trying to write a book. Did it make any money? What about the film, is that still in the works??? I'm dying to know  |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 8942
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 23, 2007 - 01:53 pm: |
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Stephen Carter's book was a best-seller, and sparked a lot of interest because people either loved it or hated it. I read "The Emperor of Ocean Park" and was more impressed with its style than its substance. Some things about the plot and characters just didn't ring true. |
Yvettep
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Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 2107
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 23, 2007 - 05:52 pm: |
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Good for him. I remember liking the book when I read it when it first came out, but I have to admit that I can recall very little of it right now.
Chris, I am curious: why do you think that a Yale law prof should be a better writer than a "first time young" writer? IMO, in general academics are not very good at writing engaging, popular, mass-audience prose. Academic writing and popular writing are two completely different species and it takes a very accomplished writer to pull off both well. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 4756
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 02:54 pm: |
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Chris, I am curious: why do you think that a Yale law prof should be a better writer than a "first time young" writer? IMO, in general academics are not very good at writing engaging, popular, mass-audience prose. Academic writing and popular writing are two completely different species and it takes a very accomplished writer to pull off both well.
(A Yale Law Professor should not have been writing popular mass audience prose--or trying to write it since Carter was a dismal failure--
If any fiction at all he should have been writing deep Dosteyevski type meditations on law, crime and punishment
But it is well known that Carter is second rate. I expect for the shmuck to wind up married to Beyonce and lose his mind. |
Troy
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Username: Troy
Post Number: 670
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - 05:04 pm: |
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My bad. Thanks for making the correction Yukio.
However, I was told that Carter recieved a 7 figure advance for New England White http://www.aalbc.com/reviews/new_england_white.htm. I was also told it was public knowledge -- though I have not seen anything supporting this in writing. My orignal source pointed me to this article, I referenced above, so at this point I do not know for sure (all I saw was dollar signs so I missed the fact it was referencing the earlier work).
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Soul_sister
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Username: Soul_sister
Post Number: 64
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 07:18 am: |
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I have started the ARC of New England White and have not been impressed so far -- around page 100. I understand that "plot" and the politics behind academic hatred and jealousy - so far his writing is a yawning expanse of verbiage - he will be in my town this week - I need to attend the signing to ask some questions - peace |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 9415
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 07:17 am: |
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Carter mustah found him some allday SUHKAS in the publishing biz. |
Msprissy
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Username: Msprissy
Post Number: 71
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 06, 2007 - 06:16 pm: |
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Chrishayden: "But it is well known that Carter is second rate. I expect for the shmuck to wind up married to Beyonce and lose his mind."
Hahaha!
I tried to read Emperor of Ocean Park, got bored after 35 pages and give the book away. If I spend $27.xx for a hardback book it better be good. Now, I do plan to purchase "Casanegra" as soon as I can save my pennies. |
Emanuel
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Username: Emanuel
Post Number: 319
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 03:36 pm: |
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A review of his latest was in today's New York Times. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 9206
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 04:52 pm: |
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The NY Times reviewer seemed to find no major flaws with "New England White" so I would call his opinion of the book a favorable one. This ponderous novel is on my "to-do" list so I do intend to read it. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 4847
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 02:03 pm: |
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The NY Times reviewer seemed to find no major flaws with "New England White" so I would call his opinion of the book a favorable one. This ponderous novel is on my "to-do" list so I do intend to read it.
(I think I smell another bout of the "Coon in a Suit" Syndrome. Somebody get the stomach pumps.
Don't waste your time. Why somebody at the New York Times would give that crap a good review is beyond me--he's on the payroll, hes a friend, they are just trying to push this Negro, I don't know.
I read the first stupid sentence of the prologue--something about rumors or lies following like flies do a corpse and fell out laughing. I leafed through the book and saw even more insipid dialog, saw that the book is 500 pages plus meaning he wants me to live with his tripe, and passed.
Let me say this--had what I seen been a first novel by almost anyone but a Yale Law Professor I'd pronounce it a worthy book. Somebody better pull Carter's coat tail that he is becoming the biggest Putz since Cornel West when he did that rap record and he needs to start writing something serious or good or at least cutting these pot boilers down to about 200 pages. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 9219
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 02:19 pm: |
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As I said, I fully intend to read this novel and form my own opinion. The NY Times critic has as much credibility as chrishayden. |
Nom_de_plume
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Username: Nom_de_plume
Post Number: 48
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 03:54 am: |
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I was about to ask if y'all are reading this! I am reading The Emperor of Ocean Park again...I started it years ago but set it down because I got distracted by another book. I am enjoying it though, I'm about halfway through and will be picking up New England White.
Was he at BEA? Wish I would have gotten an ARC, can't remember if he was singing or not. But I agree with whoever said he is style over substance for the most part. I'm in the "lovin" it camp though. |
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