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Yvettep
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Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 07:59 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

http://www.soulsofblackgirls.com/
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Ntfs_encryption
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Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 02:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As usual, your links are enlightening and very informative Ms. Yvettep. This looks very interesting. I don't think there is much argument here. Many black women suffer from severe image and esteem issues. I see it here in SoCal every day. It's sad. Perhaps this project will shed some much needed light on it and opens a serious and honest discussion.
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Yvettep
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Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 03:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well thanks, Ntfs. But with most of the stuff I post, I saw it somewhere else...from someone who saw it from somewhere else...and so on.

I, too, think this is interesting. During my undergraduate and master's programs I used to be very frustrated with White women who self-identified as feminists holding up Black women as what White women should be aspiring to in terms of self-esteem and body image. "What Black women are they talking about? Why do they presume to know more about Black women than I do--I Black woman?"

But I rarely felt empowered enough to contradict these views. Even though my own personal experience told me that many, many Black women struggle with these issues. For that reason I will be particularly interested in how this film is received in academic circles, including Black Studies and Women's Studies programs.
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Cynique
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Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 05:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

All females fall victim to self esteem issues. Especially in adolescence. The difference of course is that white women are able to outgrow all of the trauma and angst that they go through as teen-agers. But it is so much more difficult for black women to transform themselves when skin color is such a prevalent factor. And what a toll this has to take on their souls.
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Ntfs_encryption
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Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 09:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ms. Cynique and Ms. Yvettep, both your responses are irrefutable painful truths. As I said before, hopefully this movie will open a serious and perhaps productive dialogue.
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Nels
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Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 02:39 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Many black women suffer from severe image and esteem issues. I see it here in SoCal every day."

No argument here.
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Batmocop
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Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 03:22 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


I like Jada's point on "it's gotta be you!" I honestly tried to write this book , (albeit from a male perspective) and I had to shelf the project because the research took me someplace else. The Project was titled "I got all my sistah's and me"; a break from the old sister sledge song "We are family"
If you listen to the stories of individual black women (especially the young ones) you do indeed se a pattern of them not realizing who they are. I can't say enough good about Black Women. All of the negativity we harp on when it comes to them stems from some kind of bad experience in life that has affected their aura.
I'ma try hard to catch this one somewhere, even if I have to fly back to the US to see it. We have to fix the problem of the psyche of our black women being damaged because of outside influences. This in itself could change the landscape of how we as a people see each other.
BatMo->
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 02:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As usual, your links are enlightening and very informative Ms. Yvettep. This looks very interesting. I don't think there is much argument here. Many black women suffer from severe image and esteem issues. I see it here in SoCal every day. It's sad. Perhaps this project will shed some much needed light on it and opens a serious and honest discussio

(Such discussion is useless without a discussion of how the larger society is responsible for this.

Leave the system of white supremecy in place and black women will always have these issues)
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Cynique
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Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 03:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A translation of chrishayden's response. "I'd rather die than admit that somebody has something of substance to post, and that somebody else appreciates this rather than all of the drivel about life on the sidewalks and alleys of St. Louis that I subject the board to." yawn.
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Yvettep
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Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 02:53 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Such discussion is useless without a discussion of how the larger society is responsible for this.

I do not think "useless" is correct. Sure, any analysis would benefit from consideration of context. (I haven't seen the documentary, so I cannot assume that the film makers did not include this in their discussion.) I am willing to give this particular message a chance before I decide about its effectiveness.

In the meantime, if we are waiting for "white supremacy" to end before we try to do anything positive, we'll be waiting a very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very long time!

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