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A_womon
Veteran Poster
Username: A_womon
Post Number: 1906
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 05:46 pm: | 
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Come on. All of you who have turned into lurkers instead of posters. Do you miss all of the knock down drag out fights? Most people said they were sick of the fighting. So now that it's stopped, what's really goin on? |
Mony
Regular Poster
Username: Mony
Post Number: 81
Registered: 02-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 06:09 pm: |
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Both. |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10028
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 07:26 pm: |
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If anybody wants the fighting to start back up, just let me know. heh-heh. |
Linda
Regular Poster
Username: Linda
Post Number: 197
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 11:55 am: |
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Just exactly when did the fighting stop or the talking? It seems that both still exist. The problem is that once posters that are new and sometimes regular lurkers decide to chime in to discuss topics they are faced with criticism that is sometimes unwarranted or uncalled for. Many send us emails expressing that they are met with hostile remarks, called names or etc, etc. So instead of responding for fear of useless bickering they keep it moving and keep their opinions to themselves which is sad and limits the posters that participate. Now, many of you will respond that perhaps they should not take it so personal, they need thicker skin. That might be true, still . . . it isn't exactly what a person needs to endure everytime they come to the site. |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10037
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 12:36 pm: |
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I agree, and a word to the wise should be sufficient. Newbies shouldn't be pounced upon and ridiculed and the exchanges should be less personal, but - a person should have the courage of their convictions and be able to defend their point of view. I always appreciate a good debate with an intelligent person. |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10042
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 01:13 pm: |
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I'd be interested in hearing what the resident firebrand Mzuri thinks about this subject. I can understand to a certain degree that she and I may scare people away from the board. For the greater good, I intend to mellow out a little in the future - except where chrishayden is concerned. He has thick skin, not mention a thick skull. heh-heh |
Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5857
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 02:17 pm: |
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I'm the resident firebrand? Since when???
I think I'm nice to newbies unless it's some character like Igbo/an obvious troll. And I think I'm mellow unless someone starts harping on me about some BS, for example I shouldn't have to defend the fact that I'm a Republican. So if y'all leave me alone, I'll leave you alone, and if you want to rumble, we can do that too 
As far as getting involved in these long-drawn out thought provoking posts, I'm usually involved in some project - for instance right now I'm adding some furniture to my website plus I'm working with a web designer who is making me one of those get paid to complete surveys, get free stuff and earn money websites - so I'm really not just online thinking about Thumpers and reading all the posts, I normally check in here (along with some other places) as a diversion from my work. And I honestly don't have time to type out any long essays about how fabulous I am so I'll leave that up to the rest of you. LOL.
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Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10044
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 02:45 pm: |
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Well, Mzuri, I'd be interested in seeing whose name comes up most in the e-mail complaints that the staff has received. Sometimes we don't see ourselves as others perceive us. What one person thinks is harmless, offends others. I know my "cynicism" can be off-putting. My thing is, is that if people can't take it, they shouldn't dish it out, speaking of which, your feed-back about being a Republican is in response to your attacks on Democrats. And so it goes. |
Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5860
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: 
Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 03:24 pm: |
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Not really. I've been insulted/putdown for being a Republican long before I started calling y'all Dummycrats
And I don't ponder as to who is the subject of complaints to the mods. I have NOT received any warning, admonishment, not even a mention (unless I missed something) and until I do, I will continue to speak my mind as I see fit.
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Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10045
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 03:38 pm: |
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Yes, Mzuri, and since I'm sure you don't consider yourself thin-skinned when you speak your mind as you see fit, that should include your not worrying about having to justify your party affiliation.
I am not sure whether there are any "official" mods on this board, so I guess Troy relies on discreet people to police themselves when they see the negative feed-back they get on a continuing basis. |
A_womon
Veteran Poster
Username: A_womon
Post Number: 1909
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 03:51 pm: |
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You did attack AFRIKA for no good reason, this I know for a fact, Mzuri. And others too.
Yvettep: I really wasn't thinking about you at all when I posted it. I miss Tonya and her posts, so that's why I gave her the shout out.
Linda,
I posted this in response to BB123 saying the place had become boring and regulars like renata, tonya and some others who I can't remember and don't want to read BB's post to find out as I would lose everything I just typed. I wanted to find out why they stopped posting, although longtime posters know that the board always goes through periods where only a few people post and then someone posts something that sparks emotion and it's on and poppin' once again with a ton of people posting. |
Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5861
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 03:52 pm: |
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Cynique - I was citing being a Republican as an example, I don't have a problem with defending myself, but I shouldn't have to - which is what I wrote.
Has Troy told you that he relies on discreet people to police themselves, because he hasn't told me any such thing.
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Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5862
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 03:58 pm: |
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A-Womon - I didn't attack Afrika. If you will read the thread (that I think you are referring to) there is no attack. She had no business posting links for people to buy books from other websites when this right here is a book selling site, and Troy uses that revenue to cover the cost of maintaining this site. And neither does anyone. That's all.
And who else have I "attacked" since you seem to be keeping tabs on me.
Are you a moderator or something that I'm unaware of?
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A_womon
Veteran Poster
Username: A_womon
Post Number: 1911
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 04:09 pm: |
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Mzuri said: She had no business posting links for people to buy books from other websites when this right here is a book selling site, and Troy uses that revenue to cover the cost of maintaining this site. And neither does anyone. That's all.
That's part of the problem Mzuri, don't you thing Troy is perfectly capable of banning someone that he feels is detrimental to his site and his finances? A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE come her and refer people to other sites to buy books. Let Troy deal with those people.
And secondly, you called her all out of her name on the post I'm talking about without provocation. She never gave you any cause to do this that I can see. |
Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5863
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 04:20 pm: |
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Okay. Are you a moderator?
Can you answer that please?
And why are you keeping tabs on me?
Are you the model forum member or something?
As far as what I said to Afrika, I simply mentioned that "Everything that's available from Amazon can be ordered thru AALBC" to which she responded with a smart alek reply and that's how that went.
Here is the thread for your reading pleasure:
http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/1/29707.html?1190065161
What names did I call her? Because I think you're confused.
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Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10046
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 04:20 pm: |
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What would you do if Troy's sentiments were that people should be discreet enough to police themselves, Mzuri? |
A_womon
Veteran Poster
Username: A_womon
Post Number: 1915
Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 04:27 pm: |
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Mzuri said: Take your no netiquette havin' cheapskate wannabe publicist behind on somewhere.
These are the names you called her. Taken from the very link you just posted. |
Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5864
Registered: 01-2006
Rating:
Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 04:32 pm: |
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I'm not psychic and so I don't know what his sentiments are on that topic but since he is perfectly capable of contacting me by various means, and since he hasn't expressed his displeasure with me, I'm not worried about it.
As far as policing myself, are you under the impression that I just blurt out things off the top of my head? Because I put a lot of thought into my posts, especially the insulting ones, and I read them a couple of times before I post them. So I do police myself.
Now go on and get some business. Thank you.
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Jmho
Regular Poster
Username: Jmho
Post Number: 277
Registered: 03-2004
Rating:
Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 04:33 pm: |
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Mzuri wrote:
As far as what I said to Afrika, I simply mentioned that "Everything that's available from Amazon can be ordered thru AALBC" to which she responded with a smart alek reply and that's how that went.
Here's Afrika entire response:
Greetings Mzuri,
I already know that as books, promoting and marketing are my areas of specialties, but like I said I posted the info for Ms.Bandon-Bibum.
Peace
Afrika Midnight Asha Abney
What about the response, do you consider to be a smart alek reply? |
Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5865
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 04:34 pm: |
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Okay A-Womon. What is the "you called her all out of her name" part?
And are you going to answer my questions about whether you're a moderator and why it's your business to keep tabs on me?
I'd like to know.
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Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5866
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 04:37 pm: |
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Oh it's my favorite boardie foe, JMHO. Are you also a moderator? And where do you get off questioning me? Why do you feel that I owe YOU any explanation? |
A_womon
Veteran Poster
Username: A_womon
Post Number: 1916
Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 04:40 pm: |
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Why would you ask me that question, Mzuri. What does it have to do with anything? That question has no relevance here. This about Linda stating that people don't want to post because they are getting attacked for no reason. I gave you an example of how you do this. That's it. |
Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5867
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 04:45 pm: |
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It didn't stop Afrika from posting. She said she'd ignore me. So what is your complaint?
I'm asking you why YOU don't seem to have shit else to do than to monitor me? Are you a moderator?
And are you going to try to act like YOU'VE never insulted anyone?
Keep it real please.
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Jmho
Regular Poster
Username: Jmho
Post Number: 280
Registered: 03-2004
Rating:
Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 04:50 pm: |
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Mzuri wrote:
Oh it's my favorite boardie foe, JMHO. Are you also a moderator? And where do you get off questioning me? Why do you feel that I owe YOU any explanation?
Just as I thought, the response wasn't a "smart alek reply" and you knew it. So you then, instead of admitting you were wrong, you turn around, and ask others' questions -- typical deflective reaction.
And, to answer your questions -- why do you feel that I owe YOU any explanation? Obviously, you do, since you asked the questions. |
Jmho
Regular Poster
Username: Jmho
Post Number: 281
Registered: 03-2004
Rating:
Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 04:54 pm: |
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Isn't always interesting to watch when one get called out, for their bad behavior, they try to shift the focus to the one who pinged them or onto others -- are you board moderator, haven't you done the same to others, why you keeping tabs on what I do, etc. |
A_womon
Veteran Poster
Username: A_womon
Post Number: 1917
Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 04:55 pm: |
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Find a thread Mzuri, where I ATTACKED a poster for NO REASON. |
Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5869
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 04:59 pm: |
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Well, where Do you get off questioning me? Have I ever initiated anything with you about anything? Why is our conversation always based on you jumping into a thread to attack or question me? Because you're carrying a grudge from a conversation that I've long since forgotten?
I've been online for over ten years and I've participated in many, many forums. Professional forums, informal forums, down-low men forums, all types of forums. This forum is an adult forum, and we have adult conversations here. That's the way it's always been since I got here. It's not a kiddie forum. The people here talk about real shit, which is why I like it here.
And so if people can't deal with having adult conversations, then there are many other forums that they can visit. Not saying that they should leave, because that's not up to me decide. Just saying that there are other forums available for all the different personality types.
Take you for example, there's some tired ass boring tea party forums for tired ass boring people like you. Okay.
Now, what do you think about that?
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A_womon
Veteran Poster
Username: A_womon
Post Number: 1918
Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 05:04 pm: |
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I think you're as mentally ill as Kola |
A_womon
Veteran Poster
Username: A_womon
Post Number: 1919
Registered: 05-2004
Rating:
Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 05:06 pm: |
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You're forever after Kola for being unable to ADMIT MISTAKES and you are equally INCAPABLE of admitting when you are WRONG! |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10047
Registered: 01-2004
Rating:
Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 05:10 pm: |
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The idea of people policing themselves is implicit in the protocol of the board. Discreet people shouldn't have to be told to exercise restraint in their interactions with other posters. The bottom line is that one person doesn't have the authority to run amok on the board if this is driving other posters away. |
A_womon
Veteran Poster
Username: A_womon
Post Number: 1920
Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 05:10 pm: |
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And as for whether or not I am a board moderator, why don't you ask YOURSELF that question the next time you feel the need to intervene on Troy's behalf! |
Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5870
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 05:12 pm: |
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Whatever A-Womon. Unlike you I have other things to do than worry about why posters turned into lurkers, okay. But I have mental issues?
You need to check yourself and the lame topics of your lame threads before you cast insults against other people's mental state.
BTW, I was lurking in the downlow forums to gather material for a downlow love story that I wrote. It's hot y'all. Much too steamy for your squeamish asses
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A_womon
Veteran Poster
Username: A_womon
Post Number: 1921
Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 05:16 pm: |
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Get.Real. |
A_womon
Veteran Poster
Username: A_womon
Post Number: 1922
Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 05:18 pm: |
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Yeah, other things like foaming at the mouth and chasing kola down EVERY SINGLE TIME she posts. HA! |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10048
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 05:19 pm: |
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Hot or cold, a down-low love story is not my cup of tea. I'm not squeamish, I just can't relate. |
Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5871
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 05:24 pm: |
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How do you know that you can't relate when you haven't even read it? So judgmental.
Anyway, it's been a pleasure chatting with you all this afternoon, but I really must get some work done today - I have deadlines to meet.
C ya
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Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10049
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 05:30 pm: |
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I saw "BrokeBack Mountain", a love story that I couldn't relate to since I'm not a man with the hots for another man. Heh-heh. |
Linda
Regular Poster
Username: Linda
Post Number: 198
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 08:50 pm: |
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Cynique: The point you sighted is right on the money about people policing themselves. It has and will always be the intent of this forum to allow people to speak their minds and discuss their topics of choice. But, as everyone knows and has been told over the years and re-inforced by Troy that because it is not just a forum for adults we hope that the posters will limit their usage of profanity and hostility so that the younger readers may also enjoy the forum. I believe Troy has even added a feature to deal with this problem. So, thank you for bringing the fact to light once again.
As for moderators of this board: Troy, felt there is no need for any of us from the staff to have to deal with this matter as we feel that mostly the postings are okay, most of you are adults. But there are times when things get a little out of hand. Regardless of the complaints, which Troy handles and smooths over has it ever been a need to call attention to the abusers (sorry Cynique, no names) by way of posting to the site, with the exception of Kola. And even then it was to take a vote into consideration. Kola is not banned as a result of this. Troy felt like it was not the way to handle the matter and neither did the rest of us or the majority of you. So, unless an individual becomes a major problem or threat, they will more than likely not hear from Troy. And, if he does have to contact them it will be via private email to discuss the situation. This being said means this . . . AALBC is very forgiving and is not a jail. We want people to enjoy their time here. And though some complain, can't take the heat or hold intelligent conversations, we like the breaking up and making up between the posters. (Thanks Awoman) Over the years as many of you know this has become like family to us and we hope you feel the same for us. There are times when we are not around. So Troy, Thumper and myself feel as most parents do, we hope the older sisters and brothers help keep the house in order. Not to spy, or control or condemn. Just to reach out every now and then and nudge each other back into reality. That's what fam does! |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10052
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 11:53 pm: |
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OK, Mommy. Hope those old baddies who don't police themselves cooperate. snicker. |
Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5874
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 12:02 am: |
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Speaking of baddies, why don't you stop badgering and harrassing Chris Hayden???
I'm tired of you picking on him all the time when he hasn't even done anything to you
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Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10055
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 12:30 am: |
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Puleeze. What I say to chrishayden is always in response to what he has said to me. In fact a short while ago, he had nerve enough to ask the board if he was being too hard on me. Boy, did I respond to that. |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10056
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 12:33 am: |
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And chrishayden talks about you pretty badly, too. Or hadn't you noticed???? |
Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5875
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 12:45 am: |
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Chris Loves Me |
Ntfs_encryption
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2692
Registered: 10-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 05:11 am: |
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"Yeah, other things like foaming at the mouth and chasing kola down EVERY SINGLE TIME she posts>"
True..............................
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Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5879
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 05:55 am: |
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As usual, Mr. Limpy can't come up with an original thought of his own.
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Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 5339
Registered: 03-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 10:45 am: |
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You all need to get your minds on JESUS! |
Brownbeauty123
AALBC .com Platinum Poster
Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 2112
Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 11:15 am: |
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I miss all of it! |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 9695
Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 09:10 pm: |
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A_womon,
We would give each other a good needling without it getting too rancorous and spiteful.
There was more informative debates.
And there was more good humor.
I used to have fun here. |
A_womon
Veteran Poster
Username: A_womon
Post Number: 1924
Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 09:38 pm: |
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So true ABM...
Hopefully the majority of us will move the board back in that direction, and make it a better place to hang out! |
Brownbeauty123
AALBC .com Platinum Poster
Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 2116
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 11:04 pm: |
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Where did things go wrong? |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10069
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 12:16 am: |
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Jeeze. What's with all of the melancholy, the longing for days gone by? Just move on and stop moping. Start your own threads about subjects that interest you and ignore those who bug you. Take it from an old lady, you can't recapture the past. |
Jmho
Regular Poster
Username: Jmho
Post Number: 282
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 10:03 am: |
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Mzuri wrote:
Well, where Do you get off questioning me?
I assume this one was directed specifically at me. All the questions you ask of others, did you ever ask yourself, where do I get off questioning them. C'mon Muzri. As much as you like to accuse others of doing whatever, you do the same, but when called on it, then you try and turn the discussion into about someone attacking you -- just like another poster on here, who shall remained unnamed, but we all know who it is.
In a discussion, the participants give opinions, state facts, ask questions and answer questions. Don't want to answer a question posed to you, then don't answer, but all 20 questions back, to the one, who asked you a question, and this self-righteous indignation is childish, no matter the number of times, you tell the rest of us, how adult you are.
Folks post for others, and if you agree, then it's all fine, but Lawd, don't let anyone disagree with MY opinion, then all hell breaks loose. Asking folks questions that you already know the answers -- are they moderator of the board, why are you asking me this, why you monitor all my posts -- is just because you don't have a response. As much as you like to claim others are monitoring every word you type, you do you share of monitoring of others words and can always dread through the archives, and post old threads. So looks like you do as much monitoring of others as you think they do of you.
You said that you didn't make a smart alek response first towards Afrika, then stupidly posted the link, which proved otherwise, and instead of acknowledging you did, you go off on a tangent.
Mzuri wrote:
Have I ever initiated anything with you about anything?
I don't know, and really don't care. Just because someone don't agree with everything you post, don't mean they are initating anything with you. Or someone shows that you're not telling the truth, don't mean they're initiating anything either. You ask folks to prove a lot, then when proof is shown, then there's still not a 'my bad'.
Mzuri wrote:
Why is our conversation always based on you jumping into a thread to attack or question me?
You're delusional, if you think that every conversation is always based on me jumping into a thread, to attack you or question you, and you're wrong. Besides, I remember back when I was in an exchange with Troy about BET it was you who jumped into our discussion, of which I didn't mind, as that's the way the board convos work, and addressed me directly, but did I have a hissy and start posting derogatory and disparaging posts back, at you. No, I didn't. I tried to have a dialogue, but then I discovered that isn't what you wanted. You seem to always be more into one up(wo)manship than having a civil dialogue.
Ironically, you think that I am (always) attacking you, in our exchanges, but you won't admit your response to Afrika was an attack or that you don't think that you're attacking me.
Mzuri wrote:
Because you're carrying a grudge from a conversation that I've long since forgotten?
I have no grudge against you, or anyone else on the board, for that matter. If I don’t want to be bothered, then I won't address the person -- it's that simple.
Mzuri wrote:
I've been online for over ten years and I've participated in many, many forums.
As well as I have. The point being?
Mzuri wrote:
Take you for example, there's some tired ass boring tea party forums for tired ass boring people like you.
You just can't disagree with anyone, without being disagreeable, and the name-calling. For someone who always tell others, to get a life, stay out of my business, you're boring, etc. -- seems more reflective of yourself than others.
Mzuri wrote:
Now, what do you think about that?
Just know, I think as highly of you, as you think of me. |
Abm
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BB123,
I'm not necessarily blaming her (though I think she can foot some of the blame), Kola's presence here made things so combatative that an aura of strife has settled here that makes it quite difficult for foks to debate and disagree sans things becoming quite disagreeable.
And some here confuse their being mean and spiteful with their appearing clever. |
Cynique
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"O, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive." |
Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 2700
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"The problem is that once posters that are new and sometimes regular lurkers decide to chime in to discuss topics they are faced with criticism that is sometimes unwarranted or uncalled for."
Ok. But that is the nature of an open forum. Once you post something, it is open to criticism or praise. That's just the way it is.
"Many send us emails expressing that they are met with hostile remarks, called names or etc, etc"
Us??? Who is "Us"? And exactly what names are they being called? I will agree things can get very nasty at times around here. No doubt. But I don't recall a newbie poster being called preemptive profane names because they posted an innocuous comment. I could be wrong but I don't see it. Besides, if you have noticed, we don't get a large infusion of new posters. Something I think is somewhat depressing. The only newbie who did set this board on fire was the Igbola Virus. Too bad she went about it the wrong way.
"So instead of responding for fear of useless bickering they keep it moving and keep their opinions to themselves which is sad and limits the posters that participate."
Well, if this is the case, it's very unfortunate. As I state before, when you come to an open forum, you must be able to take the good and the bad. There is no reason to believe that everything you post must be met with high fives and adulation. That is the purpose of this type of venue: "Discussion, discourse, debate, disagreement and dialogue." You should be willing and capable of defending your position if someone questions it. To be honest, since I am a First Amendment fanatic and a strong believer in the right to free speech, I don't agree with moderating boards unless there is an extreme breach of decency, excessive racism, threats or never ending voluminous profanity. What does that mean? I have no personal issues with pornography (as long as it is consenting adults). But I do not believe posting pictures of sexual organs or sex acts should be allowed in a forum like this. Go to a porn or adult subject matter board and do your thing. I have no problems with it. But don't do it here.
I don't think serious personal threats should be permitted and you know why. I have no problems with occasional bad language but it your posts are laden with nothing but vulgarity, well, you need to find another means or method to express yourself. I don't believe in suppressing ones racial beliefs but if you resort to degrading a race or enthnicity for the sake of maliciously provoking people, then that needs to be looked at. For example; Some of the very senior members of the board may remember there was a guy who posted here that was Somalian or Ethiopian (I can't recall) who made it point to viciously degrade black Americans by calling them savages, inferior, monkeys, n!ggers, stupid and a host of other racist accusations. That was all he did. That should not be tolerated. Outside of that, what happens, happens. I'm all for it.
"Now, many of you will respond that perhaps they should not take it so personal, they need thicker skin. That might be true,...."
It is true. As I said, I don't think someone should come here or anywhere else, and not expect their opinions or threads to be questioned or challenged. You should not take it personal because they don't know you personally and they are reacting to what you wrote. I know many people disagree with me and I'm sure if you took a poll of the top three disliked posters, I'd crack the top three. I've had people call me a bunch of ugly names and make nasty bogus accusations about me. But that's the way it is. I'm willing to take the heat and defend my beliefs and comments.
".......still . . . it isn't exactly what a person needs to endure everytime they come to the site."
Well, maybe they need to move on. I don't mean to sound insensitive or callous, but I'm not one for political correctness, sacred cows and soft peddling hard issues. This forum is an open source and you have to expect people to disagree or at times become offended by what you write no matter how unintentional your writings or threads are. I do agree that the person should not be grossly disrespected in an unreasonable and unprovoked manner. But people are going to question and challenge your writings! They need to understand this.
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Cynique
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You make some valid points, NTFS. Linda declares how the "staff" depends on certain posters to act like big brothers and sisters - or baby sitters. She says this is not a jail. But it is also not a kindgarten. She says this is like a family but in reality it is a public forum.
Of course, things like profanity and personal attacks cannot be defended. But some newbies tend to be non-plussed because they've never had their views challenged and having their long-held notions being debunked stuns them and apparently sends them scurrying away.
Yes, things have started to lag on the board because people are so used to being entertained that lurkers sit back and wait for regulars to constantly "perform" for them instead of being participants themselves, And then there are the "defectors" from the board who for whatever reasons have sulked into silence.
If the board is in a state of limbo, it's because of passive people, not active ones. IMO |
Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 2701
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"But some newbies tend to be non-plussed because they've never had their views challenged and having their long-held notions being debunked stuns them and apparently sends them scurrying away.
Yes, things have started to lag on the board because people are so used to being entertained that lurkers sit back and wait for regulars to constantly "perform" for them instead of being participants themselves, And then there are the "defectors" from the board who for whatever reasons have sulked into silence."
I could not have articulated it better. You closed this subject out brilliantly. There is nothing more that needs to be said........
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Brownbeauty123
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"BB123,
I'm not necessarily blaming her (though I think she can foot some of the blame), Kola's presence here made things so combatative that an aura of strife has settled here that makes it quite difficult for foks to debate and disagree sans things becoming quite disagreeable.
And some here confuse their being mean and spiteful with their appearing clever."
Exactly. And the endless accusations towards every new poster being Kola also played a huge part in it as well. |
Cynique
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Not to mention how many of the new posters would invariably find a way to unfailingly praise the things that kola endlessly gave herself credit for. Sooooo, will "enchanted" chime in and agree with you 2, or are she and "Nafisa" and the rest silenced - for whatever reasons? Of course, you die-hard kola supporters are entitled to see things your way. |
Libralind2
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This board has turned an otherwise sensible person into a lush..now what about that...???
<burp>
LiLi..in search of wine |
Cynique
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Post Number: 10091
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Did anybody ever consider that this board is a reflection of life? Everything isn't always peaches and cream. Everybody is not "Mary Sunshine" or "Casper Milktoast".
Cut back on the sauce, Li-Li. This month they are saying alcohol predisposes women to breast cancer. I'm waiting til next month when they'll decide that booze is good for ya again. |
Linda
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NTFS
In answer to your question - who is US?
Troy, Thumper, Linda, Tiffany, Earl and a few other that work for this site. |
Cynique
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I thought you all worked for Troy and that Troy established the "Culture Race & Economy" division as a forum independent of "Thumper's Corner" which is there for those who prefer to simply discuss books and literature. |
Libralind2
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Ya know Cynique...???!!! Good grief. They took away my coffee..then gave it back. Now they trying to mess with my wine..but I aint having it. I already dont have sex..dam a girl gotta have SOMETHIN' Humph hursh ::you know who:: LOL
LiLi |
Linda
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Cynique
We do work for Troy which is why we also receive emails, complaints and various other information pertaining to AALBC. And you are correct, Culture Race & Economy was established as an independent forum for the site. So was Kola's, events, archives, etc. But, that still doesn't mean that we focus all our attention to just TC and allow conversations on the other forums to go unchecked from time to time. Now, lets get this straight. I answered a topic as to why some posters lurk and don't respond to many of the debates. In no way did I ever say that it was the only reason. But, since NTFS asked who was us, I gave him an answer as we don't expect every poster to know who is who on this board. Plus, most of us who work for Troy, since you don't see it as working for the site, usually ignore much of the goings on, even when it is ignorant ramblings, as to let you all have freedom. And seeing as how, you publicly announced that my thinking of you as family was insulting to you, placing you in the role of kindergarten teacher, I myself find it insulting that you felt in anyway under some obligation. The remark was to show appreciation for you and the many others who have been posting for years. I assumed that since we had just congradulated you on your 10,000+ that you wouldn't mind, my fault for giving you too much credit. And my apologies to any of the other posters who felt as you did. You are right, these are public forums. People will come and go by their choice (unless banned by Troy) regardless of what reasons. No one here has the power to stop that and it is certainly not the job of the posters to police anyone but themselves. Again, my apologies for any misunderstandings that came from my post. It's good to know where everyone stands. |
Yvettep
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LiLi, I started a thread just for you |
Yvettep
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Linda, I found your contributions to this discussion informative. I have been here for a while, but not as long as others. And I am largely unaware of all that goes on in the day-to-day maintenance and behind-the-scenes workings of the boards.
I feel that folks here are often able to come together as a "family" as you mentioned. I think I could find several examples of people supporting folks' good news and sad news. I cannot speak for how other people do or do not police themselves (and others). I am one of the posters who chooses not to get involved in name-calling and such. But the way I handle it is just by not participating in those discussions. If the topic still interests me, I will try to post a comment on that and ignore whatever the thread has disintegrated to. I largely try to let any negative comments directed at me roll off of my back.
But most importantly, I try to start the type of threads I would like to participate in and discuss. And I try to keep those conversations rolling in a fruitful manner.
I guess I am still a little confused about why other people are not able or willing to do the same. Besides first time posters with negative experiences (and I can only think of a couple I would characterize this way), who is feeling this way? Are they perhaps new to the Internet and this kind of give and take? I know you are probably not at liberty to discuss specifics, but I am curious. I guess my first response to this whole discussion is: if I can take this forum, anyone should be able to! LOL! |
Cynique
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Did I publicly announce that your thinking of us as a family was "insulting" to me, Linda???? That's your spin. I found your condescending tone more amusing than insulting which is to that I think it's kinda funny that anybody on this board needs to have somebody else take them under their wing like a "big brother or sister", a designation you initially used but then proceededed to spin into "kindergarten teacher". But I do admit to believing that we're all adults here. Some are just more sensitive than others. You also seem to have misinterpreted what NTFS had in mind when he said "us." He was referring to other posters, not the staff. And since, according to you, the staff pretty much ignores what is going on on the board, then maybe you should've just left it at that. LOL. I'm sorry if you think that your acknowledging my time here was my cue to not rock the boat. |
Linda
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Cynique:
Leave it to you to keep it going. Shzzzzzzzzzz. Do you have a life? Sometimes I think you put in way to many hours on this board. LOL. NTFS asked a question, but here you are telling me what he meant. Figure that. All of a sudden he can't post to defend himself or what? Isn't this just what we were discussing, how some posters blurt out opinions that were not directed to them. Unlike those who don't post and would rather lurk because of just this reason I have no problem dealing with you or anyone else on this forum. It does not take thick skin to be on here. It takes common sense just like Yvettep said...If you don't want to chime in-stay out. Simple as that. As for the kindergarten, you started that! LOL! Now, back to my post:
Condescending ... I didn't realize it came across that way. Perhaps, I will look at it again to determine if I was or is it just how you comprehended it. But, since that's how you took it, I apologize. It was meant to come across in a joking manner, a kind way of asking the older posters to help smooth the waters when things get a little rough. How stupid of me to think you would be able to handle that when as you yourself have stated...you are one of the ring leaders. So again, I apologize. As for acknowledging your time spent here...Well, I gave you congrats, I didn't put you on a pedestal. Those would be the other well wishers that tolerate your mouth everyday. I take it in sips. Don't get it twisted. LOL!
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Cynique
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Who's keeping it going, Linda????? You've posted on this subject as much as I have. And you could use a sense of humor yourself, since you're the one who got your pantites in a bunch, accusing me of being insulted by what you said when actually I found your little lecture amusing. BTW, did NTFS correct me when I corrected you? Before you dole out the snide remarks you ought to quit putting yourself on a pedestal as the arbitrator and mediator of this board. |
Cynique
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I have repeatedly said that I am a retired lady of leisure who does as she pleases when she pleases. So all of you who lamely fall back on that old cliche of me "getting a life", be advised that I have done a zillion different other things today besides taking a few minutes out to type a few comments on this board. |
Cynique
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And, of course, we know Linda won't respond to this because she "has a life" and doesn't "keep things going". LMAO. |
Linda
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LOL Cynique! LOL! |
Nels
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Whoa Nellie! |
Ntfs_encryption
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"In answer to your question - who is US?
Troy, Thumper, Linda, Tiffany, Earl and a few other that work for this site."
Ms. Linda, just exactly what was in these e-mails? What exactly did they say? And were they citing specific posters for these transgressions? Just curious..........
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Linda
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NTFS
There are far too many things written in these emails. Some not even worth mentioning. As you can see from Troys post "Terry McMillian" that a variety of people in the industry lurk this forum. Some are authors, some editors, some publishers, some founders of their own sites etc. Some find it hilarious, especially the fighting. Some find it sad that adults behave in a such a manner. But, all in all the over-all conclusion is that it is a widely popular, wonderful site with great information, reviews, author exposure and sometimes very colorful posters, but they wouldn't dare let their children read the discussion boards. Much too harsh for some of their taste. And though they prefer not to engage in the topics for un-stated/un-mentionable reasons, they find it hard to believe Troy lets the posters have so much free reign. And yes, they are mentioned by name from time to time. There are a few of the posters who really are well known by their monikers, which might surprise them.
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Yvettep
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Linda, you know what might be helpful? If TC/AALBC.com had a list of author/other industry folks' blogs. I sense that many of these people you are talking about would welcome conversation, but do not want to deal with the free-wheeling nature of the particular moderator-less discussion board format we have here. But those who have their own blogs could have the former, while having total control over the topics/content, comments and commenters.
I know that several authors have taken to the blogging format. (And perhaps those who haven't should consider it.) But I do not know of a way to access them easily, aside from the handful of authors who have posted their sites here.
It seems a while back I suggested starting an AALBC "blog ring" or something, where such people could list their sites and that information would be accessible in one place (here). It also could be that such a thing already exists and I am just not aware of it. Again, if so it'd be great if that information were prominent somewhere on this site.
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Abm
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Linda,
Do you think the tone and wording of this site should be censored to protect younger visitors?
I admit I am somewhat bothered by that. |
Libralind2
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Tanks for mah thread ::grin::
LiLi |
Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 2727
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"........ but they wouldn't dare let their children read the discussion boards. Much too harsh for some of their taste."
Understood. Why it doesn't necessarily bother me, I can understand how it could offend others.
"And though they prefer not to engage in the topics for un-stated/un-mentionable reasons, they find it hard to believe Troy lets the posters have so much free reign."
And it's a good thing. As I have stated before, I'm really not excited about censorship nor so-called moderation. I feel it is necessary only when the language is ongoing with overly excessive sexual and profane condemnations, physical threats or the posting of graphically pornographic pictures. But if the heat is too intense, I respectfully suggest people leave the kitchen rather than seek to stifle others for topics or language they feel is objectionable.
"And yes, they are mentioned by name from time to time. There are a few of the posters who really are well known by their monikers, which might surprise them."
Really? Well, I'm sure I'm not one of them. But I certainly can understand a few people calling attention to themselves for their posts. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
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Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 2728
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"Do you think the tone and wording of this site should be censored to protect younger visitors?
I admit I am somewhat bothered by that."
So am I. It would be disastrous.
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Abm
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Post Number: 9706
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Ntfs,
I'm bored with all this We've gottah protect the chillren crap. Kids need to learn to stay their a$$es out of certain kinds of grown foks biznas, I think.
And that's something that PARENTS should be teaching them. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 10170
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"And as Antonio and his wife kissed I recalled his face and lips between my legs, licking and sucking my clit and asshole. I wondered how I tasted to her."
Our fearless leader Troy included this quote from Video Vixen's book in a recent post. Nuff said. |
Linda
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Post Number: 205
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YvetteP: That's a good suggestion and I will see if any such list is available or in the works. I know Troy requested a list awhile back when he started his own blog, just not many responded. Maybe, it's time to try again. Want to help? LOL!
ABM/NTFS: Don't worry. There will be no censoring here. As Cynique clearly pointed out in her referal to Troy's post. It's okay to share quotes, have heated debates and freely discuss whatever. This has never been the problem. Heck, Troy, myself and Thumper sometimes fall right in with the rest of the posters (in the emails too) when being called on the carpet for saying things on the board. But, thats the fun of having an open forum. So to settle this topic for me personally I would think it would be fair to say that parents should make the decision as far as where their children surf. If this is not the place, so be it. We accept that. No harm done. There are many other things for kids too do here though if they want. We have games and lots of books for them to choose from, contest, etc. We can't stop them from coming over in the forum to take a peep. However, we aren't trying to jump through hoops. There is not going to be any changes made to the forum to accomdate children. The only reason I ever bring up children visitors is because we do have them and I think that sometimes a few of the posters get a little out of hand with remarks to each other. Once the post are no longer healthy and unharmful it is unfortunate that one of us/staff do have to step up and say something, whether the adult posters feel they need an arbitrator/mediator or not. It is part of our job to retain integrity for the site. I think ABM said it best when he said:
"an aura of strife has settled here that makes it quite difficult for folks to debate and disagree sans things becoming quite disagreeable.
And some here confuse their being mean and spiteful with their appearing clever."
This is when the forum really loses it's appeal to visitors of all ages. |
Jmho
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Post Number: 286
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The ones who complains (the loudest) always fail, to see and accept the hand they played, in making the condition, of which they complain (loudly) about. While slinging mud, it's then difficult and hypocritical, for them to get up, and point fingers at how dirty others are. I've seen some give the kudos, to those they "support," who have gone way over anybody's line, with another, yet when it comes boomeranging back, then they want to cry foul. Many want others to be held accountable, for what they post, while they be given free reign, to post whatever they please. Freedoms come with responsibilities, whether you want to accept it or not.
The site/board may not target children, but if you put the most obvious words, in a search engine -- African American Literature -- the board is more likely to come up or is just a mouse click or two away. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 10173
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I totally agree, JMHO! You're comments about this issue are right on the money. |
Abm
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Post Number: 9707
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 02:49 pm: |
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Linda,
Thanks.
And please don't misunderstand. I do think there should be some sort of limits to what are and are not allowed. For instance, I think it's a good idea that certain words are being ****'d.
I just think you can go so far with trying to mentally/emotionally 'protect' kids (as if such is even POSSIBLE these days) that foks can't much say or do ANYTHING interesting.
And I'll admit I regret having contributed to some of the residual hostility here. Though I almost never meant to wound anyone in any way (much of it was meant to be received tongue-n-cheek), in retrospect, I can see that it might have been better had I avoided A LOT of my prior antics.
And I surely contributed to the 'bloody' Kola Wars.
I think when there were more foks who posted here regularly (or at least it seems there were more), there was a healthier balancing of personalities and energies.
Here's hoping we might soon have more of that again. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2745
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 05:45 pm: |
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"And I'll admit I regret having contributed to some of the residual hostility here. Though I almost never meant to wound anyone in any way (much of it was meant to be received tongue-n-cheek), in retrospect, I can see that it might have been better had I avoided A LOT of my prior antics."
Really? I never noticed that. I always saw your as a moderator with you honest posts and not given to vulgarity and vicious personal attacks as some have gained notoriety for doing. Although I have not always agreed with everything you posted, I always thought your commentaries and quips were very good, intelligent and balanced. I only recall once when you fell from grace as the boards number one beloved male poster. And you know what I'm referring to. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
"And I surely contributed to the 'bloody' Kola Wars."
Again, really? I didn't notice that either. I know she leaned heavily on you for support and affirmation. But you were never one of her major antagonists. Although I never really participated in those bloody knife fights, Kola held her own. I did not agree with a number of her assertions but I thought she did a very good job of getting her points and opinions out front.
"I think when there were more foks who posted here regularly (or at least it seems there were more), there was a healthier balancing of personalities and energies."
True. There are a number of posters who did generate responses and traffic here. Kola was number one. No doubt. As wild and outrageous as things became when she posted regularly, it made the board anything but boring. I do miss the fire works. Can't lie about it. Ha! Ha! Ha!
"Here's hoping we might soon have more of that again."
I hear ya. There has been a very noticeable lull around here. In fact, I was looking in old Archives from 2006 and 2005. There was a lot of activity going on here. It was fun looking back at the different posters (who no longer post) and the subjects being debated. I remember when I first came here, like many people, it was a while before I actually participated by posting. But it was fun reading the various clashes of personalities and subjects being debated. Those were the good ole' days...........
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Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 9710
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 06:29 pm: |
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Ntfs,
I appreciate your perspective. But I've been here awhile. And I'll admit my musings here have evolved over the years. In years prior, I was much more of a rascal. And a might RANDY one at that. (Take a gander at some of my pre-2005 stuff...Hehehehehe!!!)
In fact, to be honest, it was my WIFE popping in and basically threatening me a couple years ago that compelled me to change things up some.
And, actually, I think it was when I SUPPORTED certain views of Kola's (which, frankly, was often), the bigger problems occurred.
I generally am the type who hopes to learn the more I live. And hopefully such is reflected via my presence here.
I'm sure things will liven up here again. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2746
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 10:01 pm: |
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"And I'll admit my musings here have evolved over the years. In years prior, I was much more of a rascal. And a might RANDY one at that."
Honest admission. If you say you were naughty back then, well, I'm certainly in no position to refute that.
"In fact, to be honest, it was my WIFE popping in and basically threatening me a couple years ago that compelled me to change things up some."
Wow!! What were you doing? Just curious........
"And, actually, I think it was when I SUPPORTED certain views of Kola's (which, frankly, was often), the bigger problems occurred."
Oh God! I can just imagine.......
"I generally am the type who hopes to learn the more I live. And hopefully such is reflected via my presence here."
True. I just had a close friend who met me when I first came to the West Coast way back in the day. She was commenting how different I am now than what I was back then. Time has the ability to change you. A lot of things have happened in my life since those days. No one stays the same over such a period of time. You mature and your wisdom increases (for most people).
"I'm sure things will liven up here again."
Hopefully so...........
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Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 9714
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 08:33 am: |
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Ntfs,
Admittedly, I often got too flirtatious with the sistas here. She thought I was trying to use Thumpers Corner to score a few side pieces, which I certainly have NEVER attempted to do.
Heck. Even now my wife will refer to Kola as “your African girlfriend.” (Chicks!) |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2753
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 03:10 pm: |
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"Admittedly, I often got too flirtatious with the sistas here. She thought I was trying to use Thumpers Corner to score a few side pieces, which I certainly have NEVER attempted to do."
Oh, you dog!!!! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
"Heck. Even now my wife will refer to Kola as “your African girlfriend.”"
Oh Lord....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Batmocop
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Post Number: 96
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 06:45 pm: |
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Man... this place hasn't changed a bit. I'm glad too see that all of you that were around back in the day are still here today. You guys are like a prime time all time great posting soap opera.
Just stopping by to see who's still around- BatMo-> |
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