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Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 9980
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 12 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 02:41 pm: | 
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tsk-tsk, Kola Boof continues to bristle because people on this board don't see her as she sees herself. It doesn't seem to register with her that the reason folks react with negativity or indifference to her is not the envy she imagines and clings to like a security blanket. It's her bloated self-promoting that bores and repels. Yes, others may like her when they meet her in person because being in the spotlight undoubtedly brings out her charming side since she feeds on attention.
If kola was as savvy as she imagines herself to be, she would cultivate good will, and do what other authors who have become regulars on this board do. She would come here as herself and simply share her good news and ask for our support and well wishes. But, no, kola has to blitz us with a lot of inflated half-truths about herself, using surrogotes to constantly sing her praises and hype her every move.
Kola "can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time", but on this board of intelligent people, she cannot "fool all of the people all of the time". So she remains nothing more than a driven-wanna be. And Kola boof could certainly take some lessons from somebody like Diane Dorce who exemplifies good will and honesty. You, go Sisgal! |
Enchanted
Veteran Poster
Username: Enchanted
Post Number: 1048
Registered: 11-2005
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Votes: 9 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 02:54 pm: |
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lmao!! this is what I'm talking about cynique why do you keep posting about a woman who hasnt been here in months? on two differnt occasions Troy Johnson proved I wasnt kola the second time was when kola was banned an I was still able to post an I was posting even when it took Troy a week to get kola able to post again but you have dementia right? As I recall didnt kola boof get diana dorcet a book deal? gee some friend Sisgal is if this is the kind of thing she wants you to post about someone that tried to help her an for the record cynique you have accused 50 differnt people on this board of being kola boof anyone you dont like or agree with they become kola an you accuse them the list includes renata, tonya, americansista, jackie, prettybabygirl, brownbeauty123, roxie and dont forget you even accused Zane of being kola once Mizurable keeps files of kolas photos an invetory of kolas posts an you talk about the woman nonstop look you just started a whole new post on kola boof but the woman is no where to be found I believe Nafisa Goma is herself because my friends saw her at the shomburg as did othrs here an Troy Johnson said Nafisas IP is not kolas so to me you are suffering dementia |
Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5825
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 03:23 pm: |
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Let's start a list of all the known troll/sock puppet names of the chronic pathological liar named Kola Boof
(which by the way isn't really her real name, it's a fake name that she made up):
I'll go first:
Nafisa Goma
Snake Girl
Snake Chick
Snake Heffa
Snake Girl Poisonous
Tall Brother
NolanFane
Maze
Miss Wysteria http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/5051/1714.html#POST17551
Sunshine
Passion
I'll post more as I root them out.
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Libralind2
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Username: Libralind2
Post Number: 917
Registered: 09-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 03:32 pm: |
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Rut rho..where's Nasfia
LiLi |
Enchanted
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Username: Enchanted
Post Number: 1053
Registered: 11-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 03:33 pm: |
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Mizurable I can care less what you say about kola as long as you an cynique leave my name out your mess I wouldnt be here this morning if you hadnt lied on me an thats all you both do is lie, lie, lie |
Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5827
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 03:36 pm: |
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How can you lie on a troll??? |
Enchanted
Veteran Poster
Username: Enchanted
Post Number: 1054
Registered: 11-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 03:38 pm: |
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your a born liar an an evil ugly person Mzuri I wouldnt allow you to drink out the same water bowl as my dogs so take your mess somewhere else sister Its sunday |
Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5828
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 03:40 pm: |
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Truthdays - http://www.thumperscorner.com/cgi/discus/show.cgi?tpc=11222&post=61744#POST61744
When sad Kola tried to rescue herself from the Jamal is my pretend boyfriend mess.
LOLs
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Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5829
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 03:43 pm: |
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Rachel_ - http://www.thumperscorner.com/cgi/discus/show.cgi?tpc=11222&post=60171#POST60171
When Kola attacked another board member, whom she has since driven away.
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Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5830
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 03:51 pm: |
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BTW, This is for you Ms. Cynique:
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Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 9981
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 05:03 pm: |
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Question: How can you tell when "enchanted" will pop up on the board?
Answer: Say something uncomplimentary about her creator, kola boof.
NTFS proved that IPNs could be manipulated and Troy has never denied that what NTFS claimed was possible. Kola Boof did Diane Dorce no favor in hooking her up with the incompetent Door of Kush organization who as SisGal wrote in a article, did her more harm than good which is why she ditched this generic outfit and went back out on her own.
And, the beat goes on as the 3-headed hydra of kola, nafisa and enchanted continues to uncoil, hissing and slithering around the board, hoping by some miracle that people will be dumb enough to fall for their act. |
Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5831
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 05:16 pm: |
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And one can log into a proxy account to change/mask their IP address. That's nothing new.
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Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5832
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 05:26 pm: |
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Just came across the plain
Nafisa
http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/5051/1620.html
http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/2152/6467.html?1123001076#POST3049 8
Didn't Nafisa Goma try to pretend she was brand new to Thumper's when she first started posting??? I can't find her very first post.
http://www.thumperscorner.com/cgi/discus/show.cgi?tpc=2152&post=40675#POST40675
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Nafisa_goma
Regular Poster
Username: Nafisa_goma
Post Number: 289
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 06:41 pm: |
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The comments posted here on Diane Dorce's behalf by Cynique are nothing less than chaste-less.
What was Kola Boof supposed to do for Diane Dorce after she tracked the woman down and got her a publishing deal?
How many authors in publishing do that for other authors?
Door of Kush published Diane Dorce's book solely because of Kola Boof's insistense that she wanted to "help her friend".
After the book was published, Door of Kush sent the book to more than 30 book reviewers and made the book available through Ingram, Baker and Taylor and every other avenue that a small press can enlist.
Most readers of the book conveyed to us that they enjoyed Ms. Dorce's book and thought the book's glossy expensive cover was attractive and got their attention:
See Book Cover/Diane's comments
http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/2152/7313.html
Is Cynique inferring that Kola Boof did something to hurt Ms. Dorce's career and was not in fact trying to help her, and as the Senior Editor at Door of Kush, I wonder why exactly Ms. Dorce would allow such a lie to be put forth when Ms. Boof was in constant touch with Diane and tried to do everything she could to help Diane's career?
As Diane Dorce's "contract" with Door of Kush stated, she was solely responsible for publicizing and using that opportunity to promote her book and her career.
Ms. Dorce claimed quite rightfully that the typesetter made over 50 grammatical errors in her book. Unfortunately, after the first printing was published, there was little we could do about that. This is something that has haunted most small publishers as we send our manuscripts off to the proofreaders and typesetters and have to trust that they have done their work.
Many times, the competition will "pay" the typesetters to create errors and with a book by Nikki Turner they even removed an entire page from the book. As "new publishers", we weren't aware of all the pitfalls of publishing.
Vicki Stringer's Triple Crown, Third World and many of the "street lit" companies have had even worse problems with this than Door of Kush has.
Kola Boof is not a "proofreader" or a "typesetter", so I'm not following how she was responsible for any of the grammatical errors in Ms. Dorce's book.
On the other hand, Ms. Boof's books "Flesh and the Devil" and the first printing of "Diary of a Lost Girl" contained TWICE as many grammatical errors as Ms. Dorce's and yet Ms. Boof's books sold fifteen times the amount as Ms. Dorce, because of Ms. Boof's superior writing talent and her drive to sell her books and promote her career, much of which I helped with.
As I've stated many times before, Kola is the godmother of my children, she's been a close friend for many years and our relationship is both business and sister-like. We help each other in all facets of our work lives and always have.
I don't know Diane Dorce beyond our business dealings, and I was not close enough to her to do very much to help with promoting her books. She was responsible for that herself.
Door of Kush is owned by seven people and it's ran by Robert Wright. Kola Boof's interest in Door of Kush is only 10% and the house was originally started by radio personel at KJLH radio following the fireboming of Ms. Boof's book "Long Train". The formation of the company is forever recorded on a radio broadcast by CARL NELSON on the "Front Page" show when the men who started the company offered to do so----ON THE AIR---exclusively for Kola Boof.
The men later gave Kola 10% controlling
interest and the power to publish whatever
she likes.
That led to other authors being signed.
Door of Kush MASTHEAD
http://doorofkush.50megs.com/custom2.html
That Ms. Diane Dorce would allow Cynique to represent anything other than the generosity and support Kola Boof showed to her is nothing less than tacky and backstabbing.
My understanding was that Kola really liked Diane and spoke to her on the phone often. She felt that Diane deserved a break and stated that if she ever got powerful in this business, she was going to help her friends out.
I have never once heard Kola Boof make a negative or derogatory comment about Diane Dorce or wish her anything but the best.
I do, however, see how Kola could feel betrayed that Cynique keeps making these rotten misinformed comments and Ms. Dorce doesn't come to Kola's defense, as well she should concerning what actually took place in getting Ms. Dorce's book off the ground.
Kola Boof did and continues to do whatever she can to help other black authors (and even two white authors) have their voices heard.
That's undeniable.
Nafisa Goma
Door of Kush Books and Music
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Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5833
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 07:05 pm: |
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You just keep pullin' shit out of your crusty ass, don't ya Kola girl.
and it's ran by Robert Wright
radio personel
For a professional editor type, you sure do have a lot of grammatical errors and misspellings in your posts.
Here's a link that you might find helpful:
http://dictionary.reference.com
Of course it probably wouldn't help you any, since you kind of need to know how to spell the shit before you can look it up.
LOLs
Why don't you address your numerous posting IDs and why anyone should believe that Nafisa Goma is a real person.
And why don't you post some pix of Kola at Jena 6.
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Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 9983
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 08:24 pm: |
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Anything that entails Nafola Gomez is not even worth replying to, it's so laced with phoniness and subtefuge. I read on an article on line by Diane Dorce in which she expressed frustration over her experience with Door of Kush books over deadlines and editing. And it should be noted that SisGal's self-published version of her book was already out there before she hooked up with Door Of Kush who apparently re-issued it under their cover. There has to be a reason why SisGal severed her ties with Door Of Kush. |
Urban_scribe
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Username: Urban_scribe
Post Number: 534
Registered: 05-2006
Rating: 
Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 09:09 pm: |
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Nafisa Goma wrote:
the typesetter made over 50 grammatical errors in her book. Unfortunately, after the first printing was published, there was little we could do about that. This is something that has haunted most small publishers as we send our manuscripts off to the proofreaders and typesetters and have to trust that they have done their work.
BULL-PHUKIN-SHIT!
The editor receives what's known as a GALLEY from the typesetter. Four copies, in fact: one for the editor, one for the copyeditor, one for the proofreader, and one for the author, to check and sign-off on finalized text.
If a book goes to press WITH THAT MANY ERRORS, it's incompetence on the editor's, copyeditor's, proofreader's, and author's parts.
The author assumes the least responsibility; however, because, typically, the author knows the least about the business, the least about grammar, spelling, punctuation, and fact-checking. But, EACH party is responsible for checking their galley, noting any errors, then calling all errors they discovered to the typesetter's attention which, if they are truly typesetting errors, the typesetter will correct AT NO CHARGE - prior to printrun.
However, if they are NOT typesetting errors, the publisher MUST pay to have the ms re-typeset. I've been in this industry for a good while now. I've NEVER heard of ANY typesetter who introduced FIFTY errors into a single work. Sounds to me like Door of Kush screwed up, didn't want to pay to have the ms re-typeset, so y'all just sent it on to the printer. Then LIED to the author that those were "typesetting errors". Either that, or the author submitted the ms with those errors and the assigned in-house editor never bothered to edit the work in the first place.
But FIFTY errors being INTRODUCED into a work? No, unheard of.
Also, should an error be discovered AFTER the first printrun, it is corrected in the next printrun. Editors, copyeditors, proofreaders, typesetters, and authors are all human beings, therefore, some errors in published books are to be expected. But 50? ... Fifty? ... FIFTY?
RULE OF THUMB: 1 error per 48 pages is acceptable. Not desirable, but acceptable.
Fifty errors in what, a 300-page novel, means y'all just didn't give a phuk!
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Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5835
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 09:18 pm: |
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That's some ghetto ass shit ain't it? Anyone would know that if the typesetter made grammatical errors he was doing more than just typesetting.
Kola/Nafisa you two numbskulls are some classic trifling amateur b!tches. No two ways about that.
You two dumb heffas put together wouldn't even make one half-smart regular ho.
LOL.
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Enchanted
Veteran Poster
Username: Enchanted
Post Number: 1056
Registered: 11-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 11:44 pm: |
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urban_vibe Vickie stringer has an essay about thes problems with small presses that makes more sense then your rant Nafisa is right an Sisgal even posted a percentage figure about errors in all books some months back her book was in the "norm" its funny how you inflate everything to fit your stuid feelings about kola an Nafisa lmao!!!  |
Enchanted
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Username: Enchanted
Post Number: 1057
Registered: 11-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 11:47 pm: |
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an boy did Nafisa tell Sisgals two face ass where to get off! lol! I wonder if kola had Nafisa write these posts lately they sound more like kola boof |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 9987
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 12:23 am: |
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Why would you call Sisgal 2-faced? Nobody on this board but the lying nafola said Sisgal had anything bad to say about kola. Now, go crawl back into the comfort of kola's anus like the piece of shit that you are. EU. |
Urban_scribe
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Username: Urban_scribe
Post Number: 536
Registered: 05-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 09:33 am: |
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Enchanted wrote:
urban_vibe
Enchanted, I gotta be honest: I kinda like that 'urban_vibe'.
Vickie stringer has an essay about thes problems with small presses that makes more sense then your rant Nafisa is right an Sisgal even posted a percentage figure about errors in all books some months back her book was in the "norm" its funny how you inflate everything to fit your stuid feelings about kola an Nafisa lmao!!
Allow me to enlighten you with the 411 on Ms. Stringer. She wrote her first novel, Let That be the Reason, while serving time in prison for drug dealing. I'm not dissing Vickie or putting her on front street - she makes no secret of her past. I happen to like Vickie very much and, despite some poor choices she made when she was younger, she is one of the coolest, most real, approachable, and classiest ladies I know in this industry. She's very business savvy. She turned her life completely around and she is to be applauded for that, and she really does believe in helping up-and-coming Black writers and putting her money where her mouth is. I can think of few other people in this industry who deserve their success as much as Vickie does. And Vickie does read these boards. How often, I don't know, but she does read them. Hey, girl!
Having said that, when Vickie published her first novel and launched Triple Crown, she had no clue of what she was doing. She pretty much had her book printed up and sold them direct on the street, at salons and barbershops, and to friends, family, and acquaintances. In other words, she did what she knew best - she hustled. BUT, this time, she hustled LEGALLY. However, her book was riddled with typos - that she made - didn't benefit from editing, copyediting, and so forth - because Vickie, at the time, didn't know the ins and outs of the industry. She then went on to publish other writers and, guess what, their books were also riddled with typos, grammatical, punctuation, spelling, and formatting errors and other issues because, again, she still didn't know. But over the years she's learned what to do and what not to do. If you compare the quality of TP's early releases to the quality of TP's current frontlist, it's a HUGE improvement.
And, like any good publisher, corrections have been made in subsequent printruns of TP's titles.
I'll also say this, there is less quality control at smaller presses because they simply do not have the budget and staff and expertise to produce a product of the same caliber as major houses. So, yes, it's reasonable to expect a small press to release an inferior quality book to that of a major house or even a midsize press. Still, that's no excuse to not produce the very best quality they can afford to produce. If any small press continuously and habitually puts out shoddy, cheesy products (books), they really shouldn't be in publishing.
Fifty errors in an approximately 300-page book tells me that the publisher didn't care, didn't know any better, or was incompetent. I don't believe even Vickie would argue with that.
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Urban_scribe
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Username: Urban_scribe
Post Number: 537
Registered: 05-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 09:41 am: |
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See, Enchanted/Kola/Nafisa, when you're REALLY somebody in the industry and REALLY got it going on, other people in the industry will sing your praises. No need to toot your own horn.
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Urban_scribe
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Username: Urban_scribe
Post Number: 538
Registered: 05-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 09:47 am: |
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Enchanted wrote:
an boy did Nafisa tell Sisgals two face ass where to get off! lol!
That speaks more to Nafisa and Door of Kush's unprofessionalism than it does to Ms. Dorce's. REAL publishers, professional publishers, editors, publicists, agents, authors, and/or ATTORNEYS don't air their disputes on public forums.
Further proof of the bogus operation they're running.
I, for one, applaud Ms. Dorce's professional work ethic.
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Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 5319
Registered: 03-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 10:31 am: |
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tsk-tsk, Kola Boof continues to bristle because people on this board don't see her as she sees herself etc etc
(Cynique, I'm surprised at you!) |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 9988
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 11:40 am: |
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STFU, chrishayden. I could say the same thing about you because you certainly don't see yourself as others do, as you regularly try to put down anyone who doesn't accept your word as the gospel. Then you turn into sensitive Sam if someone else does this. You can defend kola all you want, just as long as you stop being so clueless as to why she catches the flak that she does. |
Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 5325
Registered: 03-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 11:49 am: |
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Cynique:
You should have been with me at the Tananarive Due reading and then at the soul cleansing BAG John Coltrane celebration that was held at the Scott Joplin House later that night.
That would have quenched the rage that burns at the core of your soul like a scorned volcano! |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 9992
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 12:16 pm: |
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Oh puleeze. I wish you'd stop trying to categorize me, chrishayden. I would've loved to have met Ms Due because she is one of my favorite authors and I am also a fan of John Coltrane but I certainly wouldn't have wanted to be in your stuffy company. And contrary to what I'm sure you think, I don't care about how you respond to me, I love frustrating you, what I'm talking about is how you belittle others on this board for having an opinion different from yours. |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 9994
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: 
Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 12:39 pm: |
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The more you say, chrishayden, the more it occurs to me that you really think I have a thing for you, don't you? LMAO. I've never met you but from how you come across on this board, I can say that I know your type, - I've come across guys like you all of my life and they've always turned me off. I was married for 50 years to a laid-back, deep-thinker with a wry sense of humor who was my savior and protector and as a widow I am currently rejecting suitors, and the idea that I'm harboring some kind of resentment because of "scorn" is as ludicrous as you are. LMAO. |
Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 5331
Registered: 03-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 12:09 pm: |
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The more you say, chrishayden, the more it occurs to me that you really think I have a thing for you, don't you? LMAO
(I don't think
I know.
I forgive you for being weak) |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10016
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 01:00 pm: |
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Dream on. |
Ntfs_encryption
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2675
Registered: 10-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 10:36 pm: |
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"........because my friends saw her at the shomburg as did othrs here an Troy Johnson said Nafisas IP is not kolas......."
Means "absolutely nothing". I've talked about this before. Anyone can post here under different IP addresses. It depends on where you are posting. Your IP address is not like your finger prints or Social Security number. You really need to understand this.
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