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Ntfs_encryption
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A WHITE WOMAN EXPLAINS WHY SHE PREFERS BLACK MEN
“How many white men can treat a woman like a lady and ravish her too?”
By Susan Crain Bakos
Black skin is thick and lush, sensuous to the touch, like satin and velvet made flesh. There's only one patch of skin on a white man's body that remotely compares to nearly every inch of a black man's skin. The first time I caressed black skin, it felt like a luxury I shouldn't be able to afford. I craved it more strongly than Carrie Bradshaw craved Manolo Blahnik shoes. That phrase, "Once you go black, you never go back" is all about the feeling of the skin.
And I had the socially acceptable explanation for my craving. I used that paucity-of-available-white-partners rationale to explain my relationships with black men for several years. A white woman past forty is often passed over by her white-male contemporaries. She goes younger or ethnic or foreign-born or down the socioeconomic scale or darker or she spends lonely nights at home with her cats. Black men are happy to get the babe they couldn't have when she was twentysomething and fertile. The laws of the marketplace do prevail. It's not me, it's them—them being the white guys who weren't after me anymore, or so I claimed.
That's a lie. The truth is, I attract about the same percentage of available white men my age (and far younger!) now as I did when I was thirty—and that's not including the unavailable white men who want to play around anyway. Enough white men want me that I was hardly facing enforced celibacy, but I don't want them.
I want black men. They want me. We look at one another and exchange a visible frisson of sexual energy in the lingering glances. And our attraction is based first on race. We are not those couples who "happen to fall in love" with someone of a different race or more purposefully come together but out of some greater sense of interracial understanding and respect. Not as politically-correct men and women do we seek one another out. The Internet has made it a lot easier for us to find each other now. Men advertise: ebony seeks ivory. Women write: seeking tall, dark, and handsome. Very dark. We are not the same people who say: Race is not important. It is important to us. We have race-specific desires.
Even in a time when nearly 40 percent of single Americans have dated outside their race, that deliberate seeking of the specific other makes some people, especially black women, damned mad.
We are what they denigrate and castigate: white women and black men who choose one another because of our racial differences. They resent our taking their men. Black men are two and a half times more likely to marry a white woman than a black woman is to marry a white man.
Black women can point to that statistic in justifying their wrath. But in truth, black sisters, we're after the sex, not the ring—and these guys aren't the marrying kind anyway.
Yes, the sex!
The woman who goes after black men is a variant of sex journalist Susie Bright's "white ••••• in heat," a woman who puts sex first even though women aren't supposed to do that. According to one school of thought, white women turn to black men when their sex drives kick into higher gear and their social inhibitions recede into the rearview mirror. It's a "yes, baby, now I'm ready for you" reaction.
When we get to the "yes, baby" place, they know it, and they are ready and waiting for us. Black men have more energy, style and edge than white men. They know how to flirt, a nearly lost art among the rest of us. A black man is so damned sexy because he knows how to make a woman feel sexy.
Black men have something white guys don't have anymore: confidence in their masculinity, their sexuality. They clearly know they're men. White men appear to be waiting for the latest sociological research study to let them know if they are men or not. Yet black men are gentlemen, something else white men no longer are. They make me feel like a woman, both respected and desired. I can let go of my inhibitions, my need to control, when I am with them. How many white men can treat a woman like a lady and ravish her too?
I often felt in my White Period that only during heated sex does that little layer of air bubbles between me and the world pop and disappear, leaving me open to intimate connection. It takes a lot of friction for two white people to get that close. These black men, so alive with erotic electricity, cut through the bubbles with a touch, a caress, a kiss—and they free me—and I can truly touch them. I am like a pampered passenger in a Porsche with an expert driver at the wheel. I know I could suggest a route change, but I never really want to do that. On the other hand, the last time I had sex with a white man, we slogged along a bumpy road in a really old VW, the driver like the typical bumbling tv husband who would neither ask for nor accept the directions he badly needed.
My current lover, a handsome businessman, seduced me via eye contact at a neighborhood bar while I was eating burgers with a friend. Without saying a word, he paid the compliments, asked the questions with his expressive eyes. He didn't move over to sit beside me and ask if he could buy me a drink until he knew the time was right. Both soft-spoken and assertive, he has impeccable manners and charm. I was kissing him in a cab 30 minutes after that drink.
On another night in that same bar, a different black man, an artist, knelt and kissed my knees.
I am sure there must be some black men who aren't good in bed. Personally, I have not experienced one who isn't. (True, I am not dating down the socioeconomic ladder, but I didn't do that when I dated white either, so the racial comparisons seem valid and fair.) They look better than white men, they touch and kiss and make love better than white men. statistically, their penises are only a fraction of an inch bigger on average, but they seem bigger and harder.
White men over 40 have lost their waistlines and their zest for life—if they ever had it. They carry resentments, grudges and extra pounds in their basketball bellies. Perhaps a good part of that bloat is unhappiness. Even the thin ones look flabby somehow and deeply aggrieved. They nurse the smallest perceived slight longer than their double shots of Scotch. Surely our culture as much as biology turns them into softer, spongier, less-interesting versions of their youthful selves just at the point where women and black men and other minorities are emerging strong. Society overvalues the white man, leaving him angry and bitter when he realizes, around age 40, that he's not all that.
With the exception of some Italians, white men don't turn me on anymore.
That admission puts me in the same category as the older man only interested primarily or exclusively in young women. While women my age scowl and frown at these aging, Upper West Side Boomers pushing strollers as the hand of the thin, blonde wife 20 years their junior rests lightly on their arm, I feel a kinship with the old goats. We are the same, me and that bald white guy, drawn to the exotic other, not caring that the object of our desire has no childhood memory of a Kennedy assassination or a typical WASP Sunday dinner of over-roasted beef, lumpy mashed potatoes and soggy vegetables.
Analyze the roots of attractions all you want—like scientists have done—and you won't come up with a perfect explanation for why we crave what we do. Desire rises from our depths and is gloriously oblivious to the good opinion of others. Yet until recently, I pretended that my lust was an equal-opportunity craving, because that seemed like the right thing to do.
Halfway through the first glass of wine in my last date with a white man, I realized that little clouds of sadness and self-pity were regularly fluffing off his psyche like the dust clouds kicked up by that dirt-smudged "Peanuts" character as he walks through Charlie Brown's life. This guy was at least mildly depressed, and I wanted to tell him to exercise, lose weight, trim the combover and get interested in something outside yourself. I would have walked out on him immediately, but he seemed to expect that. I couldn't deliver the blow to his ego proffered like the naked neck of a martyr to the ax. My Southern cousins would describe his general demeanor as a "hangdog air." Into the second glass of wine and glancing longingly at the exit, I wanted to hang that dog myself when he mentioned that his face was flushed—I hadn't noticed—because he'd taken a Viagra "just in case."
What did he think would entice me more: That he assumed sex was probable because I'm a sex journalist—or that he would need chemical help if sex did occur?
I cannot even imagine a black man bungling an attempted seduction in such a sad way.
That was my last token white guy. I recently came out of my racial-preference closet and told my friends, "I love black men. I'm not attracted to white men over 40, and I'm not dating them anymore. Really, it's not them, it's me.
Nobody was surprised.
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Brownbeauty123
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Hussy. |
Mzuri
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Why did you post this here Mr. Limpy? Should we care about the reasons that white women want our men??? |
Cynique
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This verbal orgasm was self-induced by substituting a keyboard for a vibrator. The author has a romanticized concept of the black men who she stalks for stud service. These Mandingos f/uck her brains out, fulfilling her white woman fantasy of being raped by a black man. The black dudes she seduces probably peg her as a freak and this brings out the dog in them as they salivate at the thought of a wanton pussy. Maybe white men wouldn't be so inhibited around her if she was a black woman. |
Enchanted
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Maybe white men wouldn't be so inhibited around her if she was a black woman.  couldnt have said it better. |
Mzuri
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Did you hear that? Those white women you date fantasize that you are raping them.
You are a RAPIST Mr. Limpy.
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Serenasailor
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I bet that makes you proud to see that a WW is using you for sex. In the end she isn't going to do nothing but get your Black ass lynched. And when you are hanging from the noose do you think she is going to save you? Hell No!!!
YOU ARE NOTHING TO HER!! YOU ARE NOTHING TO THE WHITE MAN!! WHICH ULTIMATELY IS WHO YOU WANT TO BE LIKE!! You think that if you have one of his women it will make you just like him.
NOT!!!!!
White women are not even ATTRACTED to Black men!! Not as a group at least.
Most white women would never even consider dating a Black man. In fact 20/20 did a story on that a year ago.
In the story it said that for a Black man to become dating/marriage material for a White woman he has to earn at least $150,000.00 a year. And next to Asian men Black men are at the BOTTOM of the list of what most White women wanted to date/marry.
Just because there are more White women with Black men DOES NOT mean that White women as a group are attracted to Black men. It doesn't!!!
If anything that this story tells you more about Black men. And who they want to date/marry. And it is Black men pursuing these women not the other way around.
Chrishayden made an interesting comment about White women being the downfall of many Black men.
Well, this is ONE time I have to defend White women. Black men's LOW SELF-ESTEEM and POOR SELF-IMAGE is the downfall of Black men. Including many Black men that I've seen.
What a shame!! We all have to suffer because Black men not loving themselves!!
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Ntfs_encryption
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 08:23 pm: |
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"Why did you post this here Mr. Limpy?
Because I can Ms. Struggling Through Menopause. Got it?
"Should we care about the reasons that white women want our men???"
Uhhhhhhh.....No more that we should care about your seemingly never ending neurotic obsessive profane ranting posts about Kola over the past few days.
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Ntfs_encryption
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"I bet that makes you proud to see that a WW is using you for sex. In the end she isn't going to do nothing but get your Black ass lynched. And when you are hanging from the noose do you think she is going to save you? Hell No!!!
YOU ARE NOTHING TO HER!! YOU ARE NOTHING TO THE WHITE MAN!! WHICH ULTIMATELY IS WHO......
.....is the downfall of Black men. Including many Black men that I've seen.
What a shame!! We all have to suffer because Black men not loving themselves!!"
Yawn................
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Serenasailor
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Yawn................
WELL NTFS WHILE YOU ASLEEP AT THE KEYBOARD US BLACK FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE FIGURING OUT AWAY TO SAVE OUR COMMUNITIES!!! |
Serenasailor
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Even if White women WERE as a group attracted to Black men which they are NOT!!! They wouldn't be willing to risk being disowned, disinherited by there families or face societal scorn just to be with them.
AND THAT IS A FACT!!!
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Serenasailor
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So NTFS while you and your coke-bottle wearing, wanna be Steve Urkelish friends are wrapping yourselves around in "delusions" of White women loving Black men AGAIN US BLACK FOLKS ARE FIGURING OUT A WAY TO SAVE OUR COMMUNITIES!!! |
Mzuri
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Sorry Mr. Limpy. I'm actually not menopausal yet, but I look forward to the day. Kotex and Tampax are such a burdensome drag.
As to my seemingly never ending neurotic obsessive profane ranting posts about Nafola, you should have had a better comeback than that. At least keep things factual. Here's what really happened: Nafola Spoof tried to pull the wool over everyone's eyes once again, by posting a fake pic and pretending she lived there - but I haven't ranted obsessively about it. I confronted a couple of her sheeple and then I started the "How To Pretend You Live In A Pretend House," which is sort of a follow up to the Pretend Boyfriend thread. It was intended to be funny but a stick in the mud such as yourself probably wouldn't get the humor in all of that.
Now back to the real issue. Why do you feel the need to post articles about how white women desire our Black men here on this forum? Does it feed your weak ego to know that the white woman desires you to rape her? Or do you feel you're not good enough to be with a Black woman? Are you really just another self-pitying, self-loathing, self-hating Black man who doesn't really want to be Black, who engages in a charade to overcome his blackness by raping the white woman? Are you not enough of a man for a Black woman? Or do you just enjoy stirring up shit?
Lemme know. And I'm sure you're not really limpy. After all, that's what the v-v-v-v-v-iagra is for
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Serenasailor
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Sorry Mr. Limpy. I'm actually not menopausal yet, but I look forward to the day. Kotex and Tampax are such a burdensome drag.
As to my seemingly never ending neurotic obsessive profane ranting posts about Nafola, you should have had a better comeback than that. At least keep things factual. Here's what really happened: Nafola Spoof tried to pull the wool over everyone's eyes once again, by posting a fake pic and pretending she lived there - but I haven't ranted obsessively about it. I confronted a couple of her sheeple and then I started the "How To Pretend You Live In A Pretend House," which is sort of a follow up to the Pretend Boyfriend thread. It was intended to be funny but a stick in the mud such as yourself probably wouldn't get the humor in all of that.
Now back to the real issue. Why do you feel the need to post articles about how white women desire our Black men here on this forum? Does it feed your weak ego to know that the white woman desires you to rape her? Or do you feel you're not good enough to be with a Black woman? Are you really just another self-pitying, self-loathing, self-hating Black man who doesn't really want to be Black, who engages in a charade to overcome his blackness by raping the white woman? Are you not enough of a man for a Black woman? Or do you just enjoy stirring up shit?
Lemme know. And I'm sure you're not really limpy. After all, that's what the v-v-v-v-v-iagra is for
ONE OF THE FEW TIMES I AGREE WITH YOU MZURI!!!
NOW THATS SOME FUNNY SHYT!!! |
Ntfs_encryption
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"WELL NTFS WHILE YOU ASLEEP AT THE KEYBOARD US BLACK FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE FIGURING OUT AWAY TO SAVE OUR COMMUNITIES!!!"
Good! If that's what you're personally doing....which I doubt. But for the record, I applaud anyone who is trying to assist disadvantaged and regular working class black people in need of help.
'Even if White women WERE as a group attracted to Black men which they are NOT!!!
Fine. I have no problems with that....nor do I believe it. So, your accusation (once again) is false. I never attempted to make a ridiculous assertion that white women as a group are attracted to black men! I asked you this before SS, do you just randomly make shit up and accuse people of things they never alluded to or said?
They wouldn't be willing to risk being disowned, disinherited by there families or face societal scorn just to be with them. AND THAT IS A FACT!!!"
Good point. I agree.........
"So NTFS while you and your coke-bottle wearing, wanna be Steve Urkelish friends.......
Wrong........as usual. Don't personally know of such characters. Sorry.....
"....... are wrapping yourselves around in "delusions" of White women loving Black men."
Are you taking drugs are you just fucking stupid???? Did I say white women as a group are attracted to black men? Did I attempt to make that assertion? Produce one sentence, post or thread where I personally stated white women as a group love or are attracted to black men! SS, you need to get control of your emotional hysterical outbursts and stick with the facts and what is actually presented in a thread and not let your deep rooted personal racist bipolar paranoia insert statements that I did not make! Ya got that...??!!
"AGAIN US BLACK FOLKS ARE FIGURING OUT A WAY TO SAVE OUR COMMUNITIES!!!"
Great! You have my support and encouragement. It's a good thing. Anything else...????
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Serenasailor
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So basically you just posted that RIDICULOUS article to "stir up" some shyt???
Because the article alluded to the fact that white women were attracted to Black men as a group.
Or maybe you didn't read the article that you just posted!!!
NOT SURPRISED!!! |
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This article is two years old. I have seen the author(ess) of this trite piece of shit and she was (at the time of writing) a middle-aged hag. She had an incredibly inflated ego (aside from being a racist asshole) to assume that some black guy with cash and with a lot on the ball would actually kiss her knees. But this guy said it better:
Susan Crain Bakos is an Idiot (updated)
Ebog update note: I wrote this piece some time ago, but in light of recent dustups about sexist language on liberal blogs, it seemed to me that some of my attacks on Bakos here were attacks on her gender as opposed to attacks on her stupidity. (There was also some unnecessary side business that fell under the category of the gratuitous fat joke.) As my main goal here has always been to make sure you understand why Susan Crain Bakos is an idiot, those rough edges have increasingly struck me as egregious and careless, so I figured I'd clean them up. Part of this is self-serving, as I don't want to be accused of living in a glass house, but part of this reflects my belief that the more thought-out, more careful and less alienating version of an idea is almost always the better one.
A real whopper in The New York Press. Hat tip, the instigatinist illhindu.
"A WHITE WOMAN EXPLAINS WHY SHE PREFERS BLACK MEN
By Susan Crain Bakos
Black skin is thick and lush, sensuous to the touch, like satin and velvet made flesh. There's only one patch of skin on a white man's body that remotely compares to nearly every inch of a black man's skin. The first time I caressed black skin, it felt like a luxury I shouldn't be able to afford. I craved it more strongly than Carrie Bradshaw craved Manolo Blahnik shoes. That phrase, "Once you go black, you never go back" is all about the feeling of the skin.
And I had the socially acceptable explanation for my craving. I used that paucity-of-available-white-partners rationale to explain my relationships with black men for several years. A white woman past forty is often passed over by her white-male contemporaries. She goes younger or ethnic or foreign-born or down the socioeconomic scale or darker or she spends lonely nights at home with her cats. Black men are happy to get the babe they couldn't have when she was twentysomething and fertile. The laws of the marketplace do prevail. It's not me, it's them--them being the white guys who weren't after me anymore, or so I claimed.
[...] I want black men. They want me. We look at one another and exchange a visible frisson of sexual energy in the lingering glances. And our attraction is based first on race. We are not those couples who "happen to fall in love" with someone of a different race or more purposefully come together but out of some greater sense of interracial understanding and respect. Not as politically-correct men and women do we seek one another out.
[...] Black men have something white guys don't have anymore: confidence in their masculinity, their sexuality. They clearly know they're men. White men appear to be waiting for the latest sociological research study to let them know if they are men or not. Yet black men are gentlemen, something else white men no longer are. They make me feel like a woman, both respected and desired. I can let go of my inhibitions, my need to control, when I am with them. How many white men can treat a woman like a lady and ravish her too?
[...] White men over 40 have lost their waistlines and their zest for life--if they ever had it. They carry resentments, grudges and extra pounds in their basketball bellies. Perhaps a good part of that bloat is unhappiness. Even the thin ones look flabby somehow and deeply aggrieved. They nurse the smallest perceived slight longer than their double shots of Scotch. Surely our culture as much as biology turns them into softer, spongier, less-interesting versions of their youthful selves just at the point where women and black men and other minorities are emerging strong. Society overvalues the white man, leaving him angry and bitter when he realizes, around age 40, that he's not all that."
And so on.
I have to say, if one were inclined to let Bakos' corny, frothy prose air out in the sun a bit, after a while one might return to find there were indeed a few grainy bits of something rattling around the confines of her ridiculously general and largely put-on argument. These are not so much grains of truth as coins and crumbs of conventional wisdom, the kind of thing that sticks to a naked buttock after a zipless romp on a heavily trafficked bar couch. Bakos' basic aim with this crap essay isn't to wax about interracial sex, it's to rather predictably vent about what she sees as the sorry state of white sexuality. That "sorry state" bit about white folks - especially the genus Americanus Whiteboyus - is by this point such a mass media commonplace that on any given Sunday no less a repository of received cultural wisdom than the NYTimes will have some or another arch dumbshit going on about it. Man-dates. Violent "good" guys on TV. That hardy new perennial, the metrosexual. Viagra suppositories. There's so much anxiety about whether or not the (marginal) assimilation of feminism into the cultural DNA produces men who don't act like "men" that racist fantasy like Bakos' can now be deployed in polite company, this as part of a tendentious side-argument about like, white female sexual emancipation.
Even shorn of its canned, whole-body dick fetishism, and even when reduced to corollary evidence about the "what's wrong with white men?" thing, Bakos' rather banal reveal of her proclivities illuminates little beyond her - wink wink, you rascal! - proclivities, that and her deep racism. The barrier to understanding that is Bakos' white privilege has been left intact despite the gaping ruin that is her interracial-sex hymen. This half-deflowering leaves her unable to appreciate how her vision of the other and his proper, horizontal place in her life is just a flat, reality TV caricature, as transgressive as Springer or Girls Gone Wild "catching" two drunk coeds rubbing girlish nips together while on winter break in Mexico. I mean, of course Bakos has noticed that black and white men don't have the same dating heebee-jeebee's. Despite great gains and growing oases of inclusion we're still largely born and raised in parallel universes, get interpolated as subjects in different ways. Forget about the games, hustles, issues, gambits and conflicts that will come to fore when the average brother is confronted with a snooty 50+ "sex journalist." So tell us something we didn't know, Susan. You are the purported sexpert.
Despite her piece's blatant, built-in absurdities, I can't get particularly mad at someone for pursuing their bliss, no matter how stupid said bliss is. What I can do, though, is take the dudes who've been fucking her silly to task - not for turning her out, but for failing to complete her sexual education. Although there is a part of me that wants to pat these gents on the back for having so completely bamboozled old girl with the mandingo-schtick, I have to fault them for their lack of social responsibility. With great power comes great responsibility, so any privilege that accrues from the continued belief in totemic, black cock requires brothers wield their dicks judiciously, ensuring that any white women they •••• know better than to believe and traffic in this kind of idiocy. (To believe this kind of thing and to say the dumb shit AND to get paid for it outside of the porn biz is just unforgivable. Her ex-lays should put together some kind of petition disavowing her.) I mean, I've known (biblically) my fair share of white women, and while modesty forbids I sing my own sexual praises, I can say with great pride that I have always left them better as white people than when I found them - more, like, wry and ironized if nothing else. Apparently this call to honorable service wasn't heard by the brothers who've been kissing Susan Crain Bakos' knees (yeech!), leaving all of us that much more the poorer and skeeved out.
Bakos pats herself on the back for being a sex journalist who not only talks the talk but takes takes it up the "A" pipe, but she's really just the rankest sort of payola eater, her printed thumbs-up for black male sexual "confidence" just a form of product placement for which she shamelessly boasts of receiving payment in inches, milliliters, stuttering orgasms, what have you. It's not bad work if you can get it, but that doesn't mean Bakos isn't a racial hack stealth-marketing a certain, arriviste strain of post-civil rights self-hatred, one that infects some classes of black men like a cycline-resistant social disease. New York City is full of this kind of brother: single, middling-to-successful I-bankers and corporate lawyers, all of them the same soul age (45+) regardless of what their biological clocks actually say. These are often men whose lives have been marked significant class or geographic dislocations, who view access to Manhattan's white society as an escape from humble beginnings, who hope to transition from sticky, complicated, narrow blackness into a better, broader, whiter world. Unlike the scions of the actual black bourgeoisie (who have been schtupping wan Gwyneth Paltrow clones since prep school, and who increase the black upper classes by bringing their white women back with them to Martha's Vineyard, this in order to make make café-au-lait babies) Bakos' black men are lost to the race forever, eagerly disappearing into whiteness and leaving no trace or marker behind them except for white misunderstanding and white racism along the lines of Bakos'.
Bakos' yen this particular class of men is no accident nor does it speak to any intrinsic love of actual blackness on her part. Bakos would have you believe that actually she's doing fine when it comes to getting laid, that she went black just for the kicks and dicks:
The truth is, I attract about the same percentage of available white men my age (and far younger!) now as I did when I was thirty--and that's not including the unavailable white men who want to play around anyway.
Enough white men want me that I was hardly facing enforced celibacy, but I don't want them.
That may be true enough, but at the end of the day, Bakos' jungle fever is a mercenary, self-serving rear-guard manouver forced upon her by advancing age. As she herself puts it rather explicitly, under prevailing sexual "market conditions" this is the only class of sexually-functioning dude who will have her. She finds her self-hating level in this particular Other, these men smoky, soft-focus mirrors where her racial ignorance, advancing age and class pretension blur into an unexpected trio of assets - reciprocal desire, seasoning and sensibility. If Bakos has a sympathetic quality, it's the matter-of-fact stoicism with which she stares down being a mere, late-coming substitute for poor, schmucky brothers who, as she puts it, couldn't get the "babe" when those girls were "twentysomething and fertile." The fact that dudes still don't have the babe is, of course, obvious, but Bakos spares herself the indignity of spelling it out. Indeed, hanging over all of her essay and claims about white and black sexuality is the omnipresent but unacknowledged edifice of heterosexual market relations under what the kids like to call sexism, ageism, lookism and patriarchy, a regime of value and meaning and power that profoundly, viciously devalues Bakos, but that she actively props up in exchange for being allowed one last favorable (to her) position.
Bakos's claim that she only wants what she has left - "I don't want them" - flies in the face of the very sexual and racial system that's endowed her with the interracial fucking annuity on which she plans to coast into old age. We're expected to believe that Bakos doesn't the things that system denies her? The wealthy, Viagra-enabled white, well, dicks in Manhattan who ritually leave wives of Bakos' age, intelligence, accomplishment for much younger women? The adoration of legions of men invisibly masturbating to electronically mediated images of women just out of girlhood? What about that class of black men of which her personal faves are just wan, fading echoes, the rappers and ball players and thug heartthrobs who are the actual black crowned princes of contemporary American sexuality? Perennially "twentysomething and virile" themselves, those cats have made their own accommodations with the rigged sexual system that simultaneously hates and privileges them, and as a result they wouldn't come near Bakos the proverbial 14-inch pole. Does Bakos not want them as well?
As this piece appeared in the generally odious New York Press, Bakos can't resist taking a smug swipe at black women who frown on brothers with jungle fever.
Even in a time when nearly 40 percent of single Americans have dated outside their race, that deliberate seeking of the specific other makes some people, especially black women, damned mad.
We are what they denigrate and castigate: white women and black men who choose one another because of our racial differences. They resent our taking their men. Black men are two and a half times more likely to marry a white woman than a black woman is to marry a white man. Black women can point to that statistic in justifying their wrath. But in truth, black sisters, we're after the sex, not the ring--and these guys aren't the marrying kind anyway.
Yes, the sex!
Bakos is typically wrong on this score. Black women don't dislike her kind because she's "taking their men." They dislike her because she's an insufferable asshole who exudes a blithe, rather uniquely white female sense of entitlement. Bakos believes that her whiteness has such intrinsic value that it trumps the downward pressure exerted on her sexual stock by her age, and has cannily decided to traffic her one remaining asset where it's literally most scarce, i.e. across the color line. The benefits of crossing the sexual border, though, obviously accrue to black women and white women differently, as those marriage numbers attest to, the rich (or at least those privileged by the current sexual regime) just getting richer. (This is a stretch aside, but Bakos unintentionally retraces an arc Judith Butler identified in the career of transsexual tennis player Renee Richards, where an ageing, mediocre white male player becomes a minor star after sex reassignment surgery. When power crosses a border it only gets more powerful, whether it's white women, transgender tennis players or the "straight acting" or "bi-curious" men so prized by certain classes of gay men.)
Bakos's story may be age specific, but her sense of entitlement is global. If you go to the online communities where black men and white women meet and greet, you can initially mistake what's going on for an upending of the existing sexual order, as women who might otherwise be deemed "unattractive" by the reigning sexual regime are suddenly sought-after commodities. Women who might have been seen as overly aggressive or loud can recast themselves as "straight-up gangsta vanilla" seeking "educated thugs." Women who might have viewed themselves as fat in comparison to mainstream images of white womanhood discover that it really is (sort of, in a way) true what they say about black men and ample asses. And of course, older, professional women with gym memberships and Upper East Side real estate find that their whiteness makes them exotic to certain black men, whereas to most white men they're just, well, themselves.
To black women, though, these transformed relations are racial business as usual where whiteness is privileged and blackness is scorned. From their POV, there isn't a busted white girl in America - two rangy kids, a dirty apartment, ten credits shy of her GED - who doesn't believe that under the right lighting and circumstances any black man from Tyson Beckford to Colin Powell will gladly get down on all fours to eat her out till her nose bleeds. From the myth of the black rapist to the Bakos myth of the irresistible 50 year old white knees, white fantasy, black male desire and black female invisibility remain constant.
There actually are great, tectonic shifts going on in how and why people who are different from each other ••••, but you won't hear about that from Susan Crain Bakos. She's a liar and hack, but most importantly, Susan Crain Bakos is an idiot.
http://www.ebogjonson.com/archives/2005/12/susan_crain_bak.php |
Moonsigns
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I read this article a long time ago, and I think this woman is a complete nut!!!! |
Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 2343
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"Sorry Mr. Limpy. I'm actually not menopausal yet, but I look forward to the day. Kotex and Tampax are such a burdensome drag."
Oh really? That's good for a 50 year old.....and you did say that!!! In fact, I recall recently where a poster called you out about it and you denied that you ever said it -do you remember? I personally remember you saying it and when the poster called you out about it you said you never said anything referring to being (or just about being) "50 years" old. But I specifically remember you saying it (it is on this board and I can pull the Mzuri Forensic Find a Quote Search -would you like that?). When you denied it, I said nothing since it was not my cat fight. But the poster was correct -you did say it and then you denied it.
Two points here; One, I could care less if you are 50, 40, 30, 20 or 10. Means nothing to me...PERIOD! Secondly, it doesn't matter if you are 50 or close to it, YOU ARE EXPERINCING SOME MENOPAUSAL SYMPTONS! No? Ok, so I guess you have not experienced a hot flash yet...right? Uh huh.....right! And again, I could careless what your age is -but don't lie! Besides, you've already provided enough information about your life that anyone can figure out the time lines. Third time: I could care less what your age is but don't lie! It would be very unusual for a woman as old as you are to not experience menopausal symptoms. And what are you ashamed of?
"As to my seemingly never ending neurotic obsessive profane ranting posts about Nafola, you should have had a better comeback than that. At least keep things factual".
I don't need a better comeback because I was not trying to make one -I WAS STATING A FACT!!! Not attempting to make a Mzuri style personal caustic accusation.
"Here's what really happened: Nafola Spoof tried to pull the wool over everyone's eyes once again, by posting a fake pic and pretending she lived there - but I haven't ranted obsessively about it. I confronted a...................."
Bullshit! Anyone who frequents this board knows you have a chronic obsessive compulsion of running down every single thread or post in which Kola's name comes up. You think I'm the only one who has noticed this???? You rant incessantly about this woman and call her (and anyone who defends her) profane names at every single opportunity. You just go on and on and on and on and on about this woman. NEED I PRODUCE THE POSTS AND THREADS TO PROVE THIS POINT..?????
"Now back to the real issue. Why do you feel the need to post articles about how white women desire our Black men here on this forum?"
Do you feel the need to post one inane rant after another about Kola every single time her name appears in a thread???? First of all, the article was sent to me by a black woman! After reading it, I laughed and just posted it for others to read. There was no other ulterior motive my dear. Secondly, you have the right and the privilege to not read it and move on -Got it?? Just like your obsessive caustic name calling, personal attacks and unnatural obsession with Kola Boof, I see it and I move on. I don't waste my time calling you contempuous names for something I'm not interested in hearing. I JUST MOVE ON -AND I SUGGEST YOU DO THE SAME IF YOU FIND A POST BORING OR SOMETHING YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED IN.
"Does it feed your weak ego to know that the white woman desires you to rape her?"
Again, first of all, my ego is very much intact. Nothing weak about it my dear...trust me! Secondly, I could care less what this white woman thinks about black men. My friend and I (who sent the article) laughed about it. End of subject. Her fantasies and adulation of black men has nothing to do with me, my ego nor (again) do I care what she likes or dislikes. It's someones opinion -that's all! Get over over it!!!
" Or do you feel you're not good enough to be with a Black woman?"
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! That's funny. I do not elevate any group of women over myself. Do you elevate black men (or any other race of men) over yourself? I have no issues with black women, white women or any other race or ethnicity of females. I have issues with behavior -not a race! And what in the hell does this woman's addiction to black men have to do with me personally?
" Are you really just another self-pitying, self-loathing, self-hating Black man who doesn't really want to be Black, who engages in a charade to overcome his blackness by raping the white woman?"
Is your dementia the result of excessive drug abuse or an unfortunate natural occurrence? Where in the hell do you come off with accusing me of hating, pitying or loathing myself? WTF?? Why would I do that? My life is and has always been good. Sorry my dear, I have no such issues. There is no sane reason for me to dislike or loath myself. Do you loath or hate yourself? Mzuri, I know you take great glee in making cheap caustic name calling personal attacks but I'm somewhat surprised you would stoop to something this weak and cheap. You need to stick to the issues and refrain from groundless and unprovable accusations. Is your beef with this white woman or the fact that you don't appreciate me posting the article? It has nothing to do with my self esteem and ego (which is quite healthy). Got it..??!!
" Are you not enough of a man for a Black woman?"
Sigh....that was so desperate and pathetic. Are you..?????
"Or do you just enjoy stirring up shit?"
Excuse me..???????? Mzuri, read this: YOU ARE THE LAST HUMAN BEING ON THIS BOARD TO ACCSUE ANYONE OF STIRRING UP SHIT..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Think about it.........
"Lemme know. And I'm sure you're not really limpy.
True. My plumbing works just fine. Trust me. But you seem to be obsessed with it since you continually bring it up. Are you not getting any? I have to ask because I have noticed you seem to never pass up the opportunity to speculate and make neurotic comments about the male members of this boards sexual organs. What's going on with you? Just curious.........
"After all, that's what the v-v-v-v-v-iagra is for.
I guess. I wouldn't know being I do not have any nor do I have to use it. Now I'll be honest about this, I'm sure at some point in my life I will. No shame there. Just like there is no shame for you having to take Androgen replacement. It's just the natural process of aging my dear. So don't hate! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! ha! Ha!
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Brownbeauty123
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::round of a fukkin applause:: |
Mzuri
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Post Number: 5165
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Brevity is the key to wit, Encyclopedia Britannica. And no, I don't post in every single thread or everything that relates to Kola Spoof, the shit's not that interesting. I will call her out for her bullshit though, since some of the rest of y'all seem scared of the b!tch.
Every single thread or post? Doubt it.
http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/1/20059.html?1168328891
http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/1/17924.html?1163578561
And by the way, if age doesn't matter to you, then why bring it up? You think women have no value because they're approaching menopause? That's just your typical Black man's discriminatory disregard for the Black woman.
Did you have any answers to my valid questions or is your new modus operandi to turn the tables and cast insults to deflect answering what someone asked? Why do you post derogatory bullshit against Black women here? Why won't you answer that?
I call it like I see it and others don't always agree with me, so if you call that stirring up shit, go ahead on. I'm not the one who starts threads about issues that are negatively controversial to the Black community and demeaning to Black women in particular just for shits and grins (i.e. posting pix of fat Black women, articles on Black women's weaves and all the other derogatory shit you post against Black women).
It ain't nobody here interested in the status of your shriveled up pencil dick, so why don't you save that tired shit for your white trash bitches. And in the meanwhile, eat shit and die. As if anyone here gives a fukc.
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Serenasailor
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Again, first of all, my ego is very much intact. Nothing weak about it my dear...trust me! Secondly, I could care less what this white woman thinks about black men. My friend and I (who sent the article) laughed about it. End of subject. Her fantasies and adulation of black men has nothing to do with me, my ego nor (again) do I care what she likes or dislikes. It's someones opinion -that's all! Get over over it!!!
THIS COMING FROM A MAN WHO SEES IT AS A STATUS SYMBOL TO ENJOY THE COMPANY OF OTHER BLACK MEN WHO MAKE COMMENTS LIKE: BLACK WOMEN ONLY WASH THERE FEET WHEN THEY HAVE DOCTORS APPOINTMENTS!!
BUT NO ONE WILL EVER ACCUSE YOU OF HAVING AN EGO PROBLEM!! |
Abm
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Ntfs,
If you read what she says closely you'd probably divine what she's expressing here is as much the product of her resentment of White men as it is her love for Black men. And that this great desire for brothas is as much a product of her own mind and expections as it is anything Black men are doing for and to her.
Now, having said that, I'll bet some of those brothas she hooked up with put somekinda HURTIN' on that raggedy cQQchie of hers.
Hahahahahaha!!!! |
Renata
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 11:45 am: |
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A man who would kiss a woman 30 minutes after he meets her.
A man on the floor kissing the knees of a woman he just met.
Both in the same one bar (no telling what tales she would have if she mentioned a SECOND bar she'd been to.)
Really, ladies, a man who would do anyone he'd just met in a bar (and didn't take into account that SHE'D do anyone she'd just met in a bar) isn't really much of a loss.
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Renata
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 11:57 am: |
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"A white woman past forty is often passed over by her white-male contemporaries....Black men are happy to get the babe they couldn't have when she was twentysomething and fertile."
She gets THAT at least, the black men who DO want her wants what NO OTHER MAN does. And now that NO ONE ELSE wants her, she can always count on finding a BLACK man desperate enough to want to kiss old fat knees minutes after finding them. And she's even honest enough to point out that these men couldn't have gotten white women WHEN THEY WERE HOT (because she would have been dating someone ELSE if she had a CHOICE, dumbass).
LOL....I'll bet the guys she's referring to, don't even know what desperate slobs she just made them seem like. LOL |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2348
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 4 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 03:36 pm: |
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"And by the way, if age doesn't matter to you, then why bring it up?"
To put your ass in check for lying. Need I say more?
"You think women have no value because they're approaching menopause?"
Never suggested, thought nor said such. Only in your defensive bitter mind did such thinking originate. E'nuff said...
"That's just your typical Black man's discriminatory disregard for the Black woman."
Oh God!! You are desperate aren't you? My response to your name calling and personal attack has absolutely nothing to do with black women Mzuri. Please don't resort to cheap victimization tactics. Not going to work.....
"Did you have any answers to my valid questions or is your new modus operandi to turn the tables and cast insults to deflect answering what someone asked? Why do you post derogatory bullshit against Black women here? Why won't you answer that?"
No tables were turned my dear. I addressed every barb your threw at me. And as far as your groundless cheap accusation concerning black women, I've said this numerous times before and I'll say it again (no one yet has responded): Please produce one comment or thread were I personally attacked and degraded black women as a group. End of subject.....
"I call it like I see it and others don't always agree with me, so if you call that stirring up shit, go ahead on."
I don't think so. What? You are going to deny that you have never stirred up shit with your preemptive vicious personal attacks?
"I'm not the one who starts threads about issues that are negatively controversial to the Black community and demeaning to Black women in particular just for shits and grins (i.e. posting pix of fat Black women, articles on Black women's weaves and all the other derogatory shit you post against Black women)."
Yeah, right, just like all the ridiculous pics and gifs you post degrading and attacking people. First of all, you seem to misunderstand something. This forum is open to commentary and articles that are controversial as well as informative. As I have stated previously: You are free to peruse and comment about any thread or commentary posted and you are also free to bypass it and move on if it you find it distasteful or boring. Ya got that..??!!
Besides, who appointed you the Grand Poo Bah Board Moderator? Since when must one seek your approval to post anything in this forum? I think your deep rooted personal insecurities are driving your unwarranted hysterical attacks against posters you do not agree with.
And why are you taking an article that one white woman wrote so personal? Do you not know how to just move on to another thread you find more appealing or non threatening? Do I whine and protest about your never ending silly vitriolic posts -one after another, attacking Kola? I find it ridiculous and neurotically excessive but I never say anything. I just move on.....like you should. Hint...hint....hint.....
"It ain't nobody here interested in the status of your shriveled up pencil dick,....."
Oh really? No one but you.....YOU KEEP BRINGING IT UP! NO ONE ELSE DOES THAT BUT YOU! SO YOU MUST BE CONCERENED ABOUT IT. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
'And in the meanwhile, eat shit and die. As if anyone here gives a fukc."
You do! That's why you keep responding! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Besides, going through menopause is a natural stage of life and having Agrogen replacement is not a sin Boo Boo. So, why are you so bitter about it....?????
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Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2349
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 03:45 pm: |
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"THIS COMING FROM A MAN WHO SEES IT AS A STATUS SYMBOL TO ENJOY THE COMPANY OF OTHER BLACK MEN WHO MAKE COMMENTS LIKE: BLACK WOMEN ONLY WASH THERE FEET WHEN THEY HAVE DOCTORS APPOINTMENTS!!"
Response: Yawn...................................
"BUT NO ONE WILL EVER ACCUSE YOU OF HAVING AN EGO PROBLEM!!"
Thanks. This is true. My ego and self esteem are very much intact and quite healthy. How about you? Besides, I'm no more personally responsible for another individuals thinking than you are.
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Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 2350
Registered: 10-2005
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"Now, having said that, I'll bet some of those brothas she hooked up with put somekinda HURTIN' on that raggedy cQQchie of hers."
Ya got that right! Why else would she be so obsessed and speculative about every males piping on this board? Tweezers to pick out the gray hairs and applying a lubricant would probably make it more workable for her. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
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Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5170
Registered: 01-2006
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NT - What have I supposedly lied about? My age? Being menopausal? Didn't you say you were going to post some links? Please do so.
And BTW, there's only one person at this forum that can keep my ass in check, and it damn sure isn't you. Believe that.
Now run on out to the BBQ grill and flip that tired ass baloney sammich your white girl brought over. Sorry motherfucker.
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Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2354
Registered: 10-2005
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"Now run on out to the BBQ grill and flip that tired ass baloney sammich your white girl brought over. Sorry motherfucker."
Wow! Don't be so angry and bitter babe. More hot flashes? Have you tried Effexor yet? Just a suggestion. Anyway, have a nice Fourth of July. See, I'm not such a bad guy......Heh! Heh! Heh! Heh! Heh! Heh!
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Mzuri
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Post Number: 5171
Registered: 01-2006
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Post the links please. Back up your allegations and show me what I lied about. Thank you. |
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