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Yvettep
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Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 01:37 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

http://diverseeducation.com/artman/publish/article_7239.shtml

More than a decade after civil rights activist Dr. C. DeLores Tucker took up a national campaign against obscenities in rap music lyrics, some scholars believe she was right in the light of the comments made by Don Imus towards the Rutgers University women’s basketball team.



The late Tucker, who was the Secretary of State for Pennsylvania and a delegate to the White House Conference on Civil Rights, believed that rap music was unhealthy for children. She said it was a crime to promote messages from the rap music industry that are drug-driven, race-driven, and greed-driven. However, her attacks instigated rappers such as Tupac Shakur and later, Eminem, to ridicule her in their lyrics.



Dr. Tukufu Zuberi, professor of sociology and the Lasry Family Professor of Race Relations at the University of Pennsylvania, agrees with Tucker.



“If a group of people want others to respect them, they have to respect themselves,” says Zuberi, who is also the director of Penn’s Center for Africana Studies. “You are still responsible for the history of your people. If there has been a derogatory phrase used against you, you’re not open to repeat it.



“The people who are part of this music and who sponsor this music should reconsider what they say… it’s not a question of what happens on the street, but showing respect on the street because that is where women are still disrespected,” he adds.



But Dr. Leith Mullings, professor of anthropology at the CUNY Graduate Center, says Imus’ remarks aren’t at all related to hip-hop music, although critics say he used the same language that rappers routinely use in some of their music.



“Imus involves racism and sexism in people of power. In hip-hop, it’s a different kind of situation. That creates a diversion,” says Mullings.



She says that racism and sexism has been fundamental to the building of the country and slavery gave rise to certain rationalizations – not stereotypes – that absolved the slave owner.



“It continues around the notion that Black women are whores. It is also implemented around discussion of poor women and how sexually promiscuous they are as opposed to not [working legitimate] jobs,” says Mullings. “Imus is a crude example but similar examples [of sexist and racist commentary] exist in the congressional records.”



Dr. Benjamin Chavis, president of the Hip-Hop Summit Action Network, and rapper industry pioneer Russell Simmons issued a joint statement saying the comparison between Don Imus and hip-hop artists was unreasonable.



“Comparing Don Imus’ language with hip-hop artists’ poetic expression is misguided and inaccurate and feeds into a mindset that can be a catalyst for unwarranted, rampant censorship,” said Simmons.



Dr. Melissa Harris-Lacewell, the associate professor of politics and African American Studies at Princeton University, provides a historical context to the phrase “nappy-headed hos.” Comparing Black women to the biblical character of Jezebel, she writes on blackprof.com that Black women have been victims of a racist, patriarchal society.



“During slavery Jezebel excused the profit-driven sexual exploitation of Black women… The point here is that Jezebel is more than a demeaning and false stereotype of Black women… Inaccurate portrayals of women’s lives and characters are intentional, not accidental. Myth advances specific economic, social and political motives.”

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Chrishayden
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Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 01:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

God, at a time like this what kind of self loathing Negro mess!

C. Delores Tucker was a hypocrite, a felon a crook and full of crap.

What rap music did the slavemaster listen to? What rap music did they listen to when they degraded black women in the 50's and 60's?

This is bs put up by weak kneed Negroes who ain't gonna bust a grape.

Oh, you are gonna condemn the rappers and the videos and then the big time white billionaires who PUT THIS SLOP OUT are going to come out and you are going to go turtle.

When it comes to that crooked b--- who is getting a$$raped in hell, I quote a REAL sister, Nikki Giovanni:

"C Delores Tucker,
F--- her! F--- her! F---her!"
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Abm
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Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 01:46 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yvettep,

I think what Tucker and many others ignored or failed to realize is the foks who hate themselves enuff to reveal in fantasies or murder, mayhem and death will NOT be particularly concerned about calling women b*tches and hos.

Hell, by their mental, that's fairly mild.
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Cynique
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Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 02:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

chrishayden has about as much insight as sack of beets. What rap has done is compounded an existing problem! A black female spokesman takes a perfectly legitimate position when she speaks out about black men reinforcing what white men have always done: debase black women! chrishayden needs to take his specious rationales and crawl under a rock.
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 04:44 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A black female spokesman takes a perfectly legitimate position when she speaks out about black men reinforcing what white men have always done: debase black women! chrishayden needs to take his specious rationales and crawl under a rock.

(You're old and tired and you can't hack it anymore. To the glue factory with you, Nellie!)
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 04:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"C Delores Tucker,
F--- her! F--- her! F---her!"

You ain't said nothing about Nikki Giovanni's poem, though did you?

You wouldn't make a pimple on her butt, you rent-a-Negro!
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Cynique
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Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 05:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It figures that lesbo Nikki would want to f u c k a woman. No wonder she's estranged from her "no-father" son. What does ol Nik know about being a responsible woman? And it also figures a wannna-be like you chrishayen would aspire to be a pimple on her emaciated ass. You're full of the pus that needs to be drained from your diseased psyche.
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Yukio
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Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 10:51 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

“Imus involves racism and sexism in people of power. In hip-hop, it’s a different kind of situation. That creates a diversion,” says Mullings.

She says that racism and sexism has been fundamental to the building of the country and slavery gave rise to certain rationalizations – not stereotypes – that absolved the slave owner.

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