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Robynmarie
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Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 06:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Racism or advanced training methods?


BERLIN, Germany (AP) -- A video showing a German army instructor telling one of his soldiers to envision African-Americans in the Bronx while firing his machine gun was broadcast Saturday on national television.

The video, coming after scandals involving photos of German soldiers posing with skulls in Afghanistan and the abuse of recruits by instructors, seemed likely to raise more questions about training practices in Germany's conscript army.

"We can no longer talk about an isolated case," said Lt. Juergen Rose of the Darmstaedter Signal, a group of current and former army officers and sergeants who independently review military procedures.

"Things like this don't happen in the army on an everyday basis, but unfortunately in recent years there have been a number of comparable incidents."

The Defense Ministry said the video was shot in July 2006 at barracks in the northern town of Rendsburg and that the army has been aware of it since January.

"We are currently investigating the incident," said Florian Naggies, a spokesman for the army and Defense Ministry.

He did not identify the instructor or the soldier, who are shown in camouflage uniforms in a forest.

The instructor tells the soldier, "You are in the Bronx. A black van is stopping in front of you. Three African-Americans are getting out and they are insulting your mother in the worst ways ... Act."

The soldier fires his machine gun several times and yells an obscenity several times in English. The instructor then tells the soldier to curse even louder.

The existence of the video was first reported on the home page of the German news magazine Stern on Friday and excerpts of the video were aired on the news television channel n-tv on Saturday.

According to Stern, the 90-second video had been posted on a Web site used by soldiers to exchange private videos. A soldier who used the site alerted his superiors, the magazine reported.

The video is the latest embarrassment for the German army. Eighteen army instructors are currently on trial for allegedly abusing and humiliating 163 recruits in 2004. Last year, newspapers published photos of German soldiers in Afghanistan posing with a skulls -- including one who exposed himself while holding a skull
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Mzuri
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Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 08:28 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


This is depressing. First we are called nappy headed hos and now the Germans want to kill us. What next? :-(
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Cynique
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Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 08:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Looks like the German military has yet to divest itself of the Nazi mentality.
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Enchanted
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Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 09:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

my sister went to Paris for christmas and said she never been called 'n-word' so much in her life and they treat them African Muslims something terrible over there but she said they hate America now and hate blacks.
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Schakspir
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Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 10:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I almost took the last post seriously until I saw who it was who posted. (Dis)enchanted, Parisians don't give a f.uck about African-Americans--unless you look Moroccan or Senegalese, that is.
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Abm
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Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 08:36 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wonder why he choose to emphasize Bronx African Americans in his murder fantasy. There aren't any German or European Blacks for them to pretend to kill?
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Enchanted
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Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 09:02 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Shakespeer my sister is black and she went to Paris w/black man for christmas they both were called "n-word" by Parisians and said the white Americans were treated just as bad its partly the war in Irq and sweeping anti-American and my sis said they dont like blacsk as used to. sympathy and guilt over.
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Schakspir
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Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 12:05 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Enchanted: Shakespeer my sister is black and she went to Paris w/black man for christmas they both were called "n-word" by Parisians and said the white Americans were treated just as bad its partly the war in Irq and sweeping anti-American and my sis said they dont like blacsk as used to. sympathy and guilt over.

Schakspir: So, if your sister is black, what are you, then?

I think you are really white.

BTW, all of us who have been to France lately know what assholes the French are. But YOU aren't real. Most likely (judging by your sloppy writing) a white teen.
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Enchanted
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Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 12:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

lol! you are hands down the stupidest idiot to ever post on this board, I mean dumber then dirt
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Schakspir
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Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 02:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

But you, an illiterate, who can't tell the difference between "then" and "than," think you are more intelligent than somebody who's won the American Book Award?

Interesting....
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Serenasailor
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Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 02:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thats interesting my mom and my sister went to Paris and had a lovely time. They said the racism there was nothing like here.

I guess different strokes for different folks.
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Cynique
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Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 04:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"enchanted" ain't nobody but a kola boof troll. In her posts, she always pretends to put kola down but ends up praising her before she's done. And "enchanted" didn't always write in this semi-literate style. She now claims that she used to have somebody proof-read what she wrote before she posted it because she's not a good typist. Yeah, right. Not too long ago, enchanted's posts would be coming fast and furious and they didn't need any proof-reading.
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Enchanted
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Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 11:10 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

bulldookey Cynique you and Tanya pull up these perfect posts and SHOW ME and since I did in the start spend a whole hour proofing my own posts I want to see more than two examples. Mzuri who plays Lil_z is the troll of this board and you were two people yourself which you admitted so please get a new thought in your old head. lol!!!!
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Cynique
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Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 11:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh shut up, "unenchanted boof. You can't even keep it straight what side of an issue you're supposed to be on. You change from post to post like the fabricated fraud that you are.
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Mzuri
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Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 11:37 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


Discombobulated - Don't you ever have anything new to add to a conversation? How many times can a nappyheadedho regurgitate the sametiredassbullshit???
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Enchanted
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Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 11:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thats all you di is regurgitate same vomit on the board day in and day out Mzuri
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Lil_ze
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Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 12:09 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

everyone has their experiences, but france has historically been held as a "refuge" for black americans.

james baldwin, josephine baker, amongst others were very warmly embraced in france.

i know the "treatment" of celebrities is better than the average person.

but even "common" black people have historically spoken highly of the time they spent in france.

maybe the fact the france (as of late) has been "overrun" with immigration, has led to a "backlash" of some type amongst the french people, against people of color.

i had a great time in france.

in france there seems to be a "dislike" of anything "not french" (i.e. americans, english language etc).

but overall france has historically been seen as being more "forward thinking" in terms of "racial issues".

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