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Tonya
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Post Number: 4653
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 12:55 am: | 
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What ever happened to Faith Evans
Since she was never all that talented,
was she beautiful enough for the industry?
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Lil_ze
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Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 840
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 01:41 am: |
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well, faith evans was on badboy entertainment for a while.
the artist on "badboy" suffer from the "curse of puffy".
meaning they only get "so far", before fading away (see "112", "black rob", "g dep" etc).
puffy needs to be the star of "badboy".
he will not allow any of the badboy artists to get more "shine" than him.
im glad puff has achieved sucesss.
i remember when i was in the 11th grade. me and a friend of mine, used to spend hours watching puff give dance lessons to jeff red (who did the title track for the movie "strictly business"), in a racketball court in pelham new york.
we were amazed at puff' dancing ability.
we knew he was a talented dancer, but to see him go on to "greatness" is cool to me.
as far as faith evans goes, i don't know what record label she is on now.
about a year or two ago she had a very good single out titled something like "if i could do it all again".
faith evans was arrested for cocaine possesion a few years ago.
on that track (ifni could do it all again) she spoke about her cociane arrest.
i think faith is a talented singer, and i think she is attractive.
but i also know that faith evan's father is a white man.
i have nothing personal against her.
i actually like her.
i don't feel she is "one of our people", but i do like faith evans.
i think she is a sweetheart! |
Brownbeauty123
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Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 1832
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 11:00 am: |
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I own all of her albums.
Her first album was really good, even though she was a Mary J. Blige clone. After that, the producers didn't give her enough good material, and she never got the proper promotion for her albums. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 3715
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 11:27 am: |
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Last I heard she was married with children. Check out her website - should be some updates there. |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 3812
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 11:38 am: |
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No talent. She'll be back working at the check cashing place where she belongs. |
Brownbeauty123
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Post Number: 1836
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 01:05 pm: |
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I think she is very underrated. She has an amazing voice. |
Tonya
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Post Number: 4660
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 01:57 pm: |
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I heard her live at a concert and so I have to vehemently disagree.
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Yukio
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Post Number: 1947
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 02:58 pm: |
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tonya:
really...thats a disappointment, though I've see people in concert several times, and the quality of their voice fluctuates. . . it seems to me, that its best to get them in the middle or the end of the tour...anyways, i liked her last album! |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 8618
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 08:12 pm: |
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Faith Evans is everything Mary J. Blige is given credit for being only WITHOUT the boring self-pitying sob story. And I believe had she distanced herself from Diddy, Faith would probably be as big as Mary J. |
Serenasailor
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Post Number: 1369
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 10:32 pm: |
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I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE FAITH EVANS!!! I THINK SHE WAS BEAUTIFUL AND TALENTED. But she was never the same after Biggie died. Namely the drugs, alcohol, and bad association took a toll on her. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 1934
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 02:44 am: |
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"i don't feel she is "one of our people",...."
Not one of our people??? Um...what does that mean? Just curious........
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Brownbeauty123
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Post Number: 1838
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 10:28 am: |
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"Not one of our people??? Um...what does that mean? Just curious........"
He thinks that if a black woman has a baby by a White man then the child is not Black. But if a White woman has a baby by the big black mandigo than the child is Black.
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Tonya
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Post Number: 4665
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 10:51 am: |
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Mary J. Blige is much much prettier, imo. And tho looks prob'ly shouldn't be a prerequisite for the music industry, it is a factor, whether it should be or not.
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Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 1936
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 01:11 pm: |
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"He thinks that if a black woman has a baby by a White man then the child is not Black. But if a White woman has a baby by the big black mandigo than the child is Black."
Oh? Uh huh.....I see......well.....that makes perfect sense.
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Renata
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Post Number: 1851
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 03:03 pm: |
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Come on.....she has to be at LEAST as black as Cameron Diaz.
I didn't even know she was bi-racial until I read it somewhere. My sister's lighter than she is and not bi-racial at all.
This is why that one drop thing is BULLSHIT. Those who actually look black aren't considered us if they don't have the "right" black ancestors on a certain side of the family.....but any blue-eyed blonde can claim it without even knowing where black blood MAY have come in.
She kind of reminds me of that "Rihanna" girl. |
Doberman23
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Post Number: 839
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 03:26 pm: |
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faith's first couple of cd's where good, i wonder what ever happened to total ... now those girls where the shiznit ... lez or not. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 7586
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 03:58 pm: |
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I certainly don't agree that that camel-face cousin of a turtle, Mary J Blige, is "prettier" than Faith! |
Serenasailor
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Post Number: 1371
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 04:03 pm: |
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I'd take Faith Evans anyday over Mary(My life is soooo hard)Blige!!!
Mary J. Blige just is toooo damn preachy for me!!
Then she has the nerve to say that America is Racist but wears Blonde weaves and Blue contacts like "they going out of style".
Gimme a Break!! |
Mzuri
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Post Number: 3742
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 04:22 pm: |
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Camel-faced cousin of a turtle!!!  |
Tonya
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Post Number: 4677
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 04:41 pm: |
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SS: Mary J. Blige just is toooo damn preachy for me!!
Of course she is. Any woman that uses her voice prob’ly is. 
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Serenasailor
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Post Number: 1379
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 04:55 pm: |
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Mary J. doesn't have that "Great" of a voice to me Tonya.
And Faith Evans voice is waaaaay more soulful, and "from the heart" than Mary J's.
One thing about Mary J. Blige is that she is not a "good" singer she is a "passionate" performer. And there is a "huge" difference.
Michael Jackson was not a "good" singer but a very "passionate" performer. That is why he is famous.
Faith Evans is a "good" singer, but not a "passionate" performer maybe that is why her career was never as big as Mary J's. |
Tonya
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 04:58 pm: |
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...and don't act as if Faith never donned contact lenses and blonde weaves...
Puleeeeze. |
Tonya
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 05:02 pm: |
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Faith Evans REAL singing voice is shitty to me. But that's just a matter of opinion.
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Serenasailor
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Post Number: 1380
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 05:13 pm: |
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Also, Lil_Cunt their is no "basis" for your argument about her not being "one of our ppl".
Any sociologist will tell you that in any interracial marriage the children tend to identify more with the mothers culture. So the offspring of non_Black men and Black women usually tend to identify with the "Black" culture.
Now on the other hand if you have a Black man and a non-Black women the offspring will tend to moreso identify with the mother's culture. And she will more than likely raise her children as a non-Black man or woman.
That explains statistically why the children of Black men and non-Black women tend to date/marry non-Black ppl moreso than they do Black.
And why the children of non-Black men and Black women tend to date/marry and identify with Black ppl.
That also explains why Faith Evans has always dealth exclusively with Black men and has "Black" children.
Now there are exceptions to the rule. In the case of Halle Berry, Alicia Keyes, Doug Christie, and David Justice these bi-racial ppl of Black men and non-Black women who identify with Black ppl. That is because these ppl were raised by their White mothers as Black men/women. Therefore, they identify with the "Black" culture.
Now Thandie Newton is the exception because her "Black" mother raised her as a "White" women so she identifies with "White" culture. Which is why she deals exclusively with "White" men.
So Lil_Dummy if you want to be "technical" about it the offspring of non_Black men and "Black" women are "Blacker" than the offspring of "Black" men and non-Black women.
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Lil_ze
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Post Number: 849
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 05:28 pm: |
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well ntfs, when i say she is "not one of our people", i mean her father is a white man.
she is a child of the white race.
no matter what her mother is.
we have our fathers last name, because its our FATHER who we are the off-spring of.
i have nothing personal against faith evans because her father is a white man.
i have cousins who have white fathers.
but i do have the understanding that these people are NOT us.
faith evans, lenny kravitz, bob marley, zigy marley, damien marley are all members of the WHITE RACE.
it makes no difference how "dark" their skin is.
the fathers (men) of the white race are their fathers.
as far as cameron diaz goes, im not saying i know for a FACT that she is oune of our people, im saying ive seen her father, and he looks like the off-spring of our fore-fathers.
if a person is the off-spring of black fore fathers, it makes no difference if they have super blonde hair and blue eyes.
they are our people.
however if your great grandfather on you fathers' side is a whiteman (like the children of bob marley), then you are "not one of us", and are members of the white race.
i don't care HOW "black" your skin is.
i have nothing PERSONAL aganist these people, but they are not the children of our fore-fathers.
they are the children of the white race.
faith evans could marry all the blackmen she wants to, she is not one of our people. |
Serenasailor
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Post Number: 1384
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 09:20 pm: |
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See heres the problem Lil_bytch you are baseing this stuff off of your "opinion" and I am giving you "cold hard facts". Faith Evans was raised by her "Black" mother and Aunt. She was acculterated by them.
As in the case with most "Black" mothers who acculterate their children.
Do you have any statistical research on your little "theory"??
According to statistics Faith Evans is "Blacker" than Halle Berry". And if Halle is a "Black" woman than so is Faith.
BTW!! What culture did you learn this theory from?? Because according to African culture(including many tribes in West Africa) the childs tribe is determined by whatever the mother is. |
Lil_ze
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Post Number: 856
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 11:27 pm: |
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you are offering cold hard facts?
"faith evans was raised by her black mother and aunt".
and so what?????????????
faith evans is the child of a whiteman.
she could have been raised by a hundred black women, it makes no difference.
halle berry is one of our people.
faith evans is not.
and of course what im saying is my opinion.
when did i say that it was anything other than my opinion?
as far as where i learned this, i learned from men in harlem, new york.
these men were taught by elders, who learned from elders, who were taught by a man who was a slave.
faith evans is the child of a white man.
all of the "acculturation" in the world cannot make the daughter of a whiteman one of our people.
faith evans is a child of the white race.
by the way, what some "tribes" in west africa "do", has zero to do with our people.
a child's nationality is determined by who the father is.
this is why we carry our FATHERS last name. |
Mzuri
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Post Number: 3751
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 01:27 am: |
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Z - You really need to stop talking out of your ass.
FACT: We can only carry our FATHERS surname if he claims us, if he's even around, and if the babymomma remembers who in the •••• he is. There's five-gazillion children who bear the surname of their mothers and they are still BLACK.
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Lil_ze
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 02:24 am: |
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i don't know about "talking out of my ass".
my words come ONLY from my mouth.
well, fathers are supposed to claim their children.
i have my fathers last name as do MOST of the people (of all races) in america.
if a child bears the surname of their mother, that does not change the fact that the child is the descendant of its father, and its father's father.
like it or not, accept it or not, believe it or not. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 1952
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 03:15 pm: |
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"faith evans is the child of a whiteman.
she could have been raised by a hundred black women, it makes no difference."
Lil_ze, stop...stop ...stop....stop!! OMG!!! I can't believe you are attempting to make this point! First, let me say I think this entire notion and conversation of so-called biracial people being or black is racist, ridiculous and intellectually embarrassing. That said, why would one so-called biracial person be black while another so-called biracial person would be be considered white, according to your theory? You base it on the male as the criteria for being white? Ummmmmm....., I'm sorry bro, but your theory contradicts genetics. Last time I heard, we have a total of 48 chromosomes, the male contributes 24 and the female contributes 24. They are mixed together and what ever happens, happens (i.e. the offspring will inherit dominant traits from the male or the female or both or recessive genes can become dominant, etc). But there is no biological or genealogical basis to your contention. Why is it that the fathers (white male) genes will determine the so-called race while the mothers (black female) genes have no impact or significance (according to your theory)?
According to your genetic theory, if the male is white -the child is white. If the male is black -the child is black. And the genetics of females in both instances are negligible -do not count nor matter what the race may be. Bro Z, you do know that you can argue a cultural or social position for your theory but there is absolutely no scientific evidence to support anything you have stated. Again, you are aware of this, correct?
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Mzuri
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Post Number: 3766
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 03:29 pm: |
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Z's trying to tell us that Faith is a white girl.  |
Viqi_french
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Post Number: 71
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 04:59 pm: |
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I like Faith's singing. She has a very soulful tone and great control. It's her material and arrangements that keep Faith a beat behind where she could be.
BTW, I believe one of her parents is Italian. I remember her interview, when she said being half Italian came with the pasta know-how that kept Big Poppa happy. At least for a while.
http://southsidestar.blogspot.com |
Lil_ze
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 11:16 pm: |
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well ntfs, "faith" (not "evans") is the EVIDENCE of things unseen and the substance of things hoped for.
alleged science cannot change what is known to me to be true.
if a person does not believe in the alleged science of their enemies, then the "science" of their enemies plays NO part in that persons way of looking at things.
we all have the right to think what we want.
faith evans, and ALL children of white men are children of the white race.
no matter what their mother is. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 1962
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 11:53 pm: |
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"...ALL children of white men are children of the white race.
no matter what their mother is."
You really believe that..??? I see.....OK.....Done deal. No need to further this discussion. I'm done.....
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Lil_ze
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 12:14 am: |
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well said ntfs, the point has been made.
one can either accept it or reject it.
but these children of whitemen have the same fate coming to them as the rest of their white brothers and sisters.
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Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 1972
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 01:46 am: |
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"but these children of whitemen have the same fate coming to them as the rest of their white brothers and sisters."
Oh? What might that fate be.....??
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Abm
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 10:07 am: |
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Ntfs,
Some Black foks would make some hellafied Nazis. That is, if they were White. |
Latina_wi
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 02:11 pm: |
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^^^LOL...so true ABM.
I like Faith Evans attitude, saw her in an interview once and she seemed like a real nice woman. |
Abm
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 02:33 pm: |
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Latina_wi,
I like Faith too, as both a singer and (what very little I can tell) as a person. As you say, she seem nice. And she seems genuine. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 2008
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 04:11 pm: |
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"Ntfs,
Some Black foks would make some hellafied Nazis. That is, if they were White."
Oh, no doubt! Since they have an historical history of being oppressed, they believe their racism and ignorance is above moral approach or question. They spew the exact same bigotry and racist ignorance as any Tennessee Confederate flag waving cracker yet they honestly feel their hate is valid, worthy, unquestionable and a good thing. As long as they are allowed to rant and rail against others for differences in skin color (whether they are white or have a lighter skin complexion), it's ok. Its' like I said, "a good thing".
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