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Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 1917
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 01:54 pm: | 
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Blacks Learn in Brazil They Won't Be Human Until They Become White
Written by Mark Wells
25 February 2007
My own research on racial exclusion in Brazil has given me ample reason to believe that this environment exists only because the majority of Brazil's pretos and pardos still don't seem to understand what their phenotype has to do with their chances for success in life. But I must also acknowledge the fact that there does exist a consciousness amongst a proportion of afrodescendentes that is able to see through the smokescreen of Brazil's presumed racial
exceptionalism.
For many of them, the dream of achieving an actual racial democracy is worth more than the social destruction of the country as a whole. In this sense, images and memories of the oft-cited racial antagonism that is so key to nderstanding American (US), South African and German societies act as a constant reminder, etched in the consciousness of the Brazilian of what a society should not be. At best, it is an acceptable premise; at worst, it is the most dangerous form of denial, a way of fleeing from the scene of the crime. Brazil 's racial exceptionalism is predicated on the continuous oppression of the would-be black Brazilian.
In order to eliminate a perceived threat to the established racial hierarchy, people of visible African ancestry must be taught to adore everything in proximity to the European ideal while despising anything that could indicate African origins. This painful denial of self is an ongoing process that has been imbedded in the psyche of the afrodescendente since the 16th century. As Nilma Gomes explains:
"This insidious process is many times incorporated by the victims themselves that go on to believe in the existence of something natural in this distancing. The negros, that are socially and psychologically convinced in this supposed reality, develop strategies that they believe brings them closer to the most socially desired position. Manipulating and altering the symbols ideologically seen as expressions of their supposed social and biological distancing from the pole of power, the standard of beauty and humanity are tasks implemented by the subjects that fall into this trap.
Malcolm X once said that the worst thing that the white man ever did was to make black people hate themselves. There is ample evidence of this self-hatred in the countless comments and testimonies of afrodescendentes who wished their hair were straighter, their skin lighter, noses and lips thinner. That seed of self-hatred spawns the fruit of self-hatred as the afrodescendente procures a lighter/whiter partner in order that they may "improve the race" by having lighter/whiter children whose privilege of whiteness ultimately blinds them to the injustices experienced by his/her darker parent and all those who look like them.
According to many of the widely circulated insults directed at the afrodescendente, blacks are monkeys (macacos), shameless, dirty and mischievous (negro safado), made of excrement (negro de merda), and disgusting (negro nojento). Accordingly, they still belong in the slave house (senzala).
This is what Denise Medeiros Rocha of Rio said to her neighbor's husband, Cláudio Costa Ferreira, on Christmas Eve of 2005.
A quick Google search of all of these terms will show that they are quite common insults. For many Brazilian citizens, blacks still "aren't people", so many afrodescendentes will try to align themselves and their descendents with their only choice in their desire of being something in which their humanity will be respected. Again, quoting Fanon: "I will simply try to make myself white: that is, I will compel the white man to acknowledge that I am human. "
After planting the seeds of this racial hatred of self over a period of nearly 500 years, the whiter looking Brazilian mestiço points to his/her more African looking brother and sister and accuses him/her of being their own worst enemies.
By placing the blame on the afrodescendente, the Brazilian refuses to emphasize that it is the white Brazilian, the "holder of economic power and social prestige that has the opportunity of disseminating their racist ideology and consequently convincing a great part of the black population that their condition of inferiority is natural. " In reality,racial dominance and white supremacy could not function if it were any other way.
In closing this piece, I would like to pose a question to those who continue to see the US as a racial hell while hailing Brazil as a racial paradise. Let us imagine that neither Jim Crow era United States nor apartheid era South Africa ever existed as such. Let us imagine that these societies and any other societies that are considered to be racist actually treated all members of their multi-racial societies with complete equality.
That would mean that there would be full participation in every strata of mainstream society for all races. Then, let us imagine that Brazil continued to maintain a society in which beauty, power, wealth and success was represented by whiteness while favelas, ugliness, poverty and exclusion were represented by blacks.
Without a United States or a South Africa to point to as the "real" racists, and the rest of world wondering why the society was stratified in such a way, to whom would the Brazilian point in order to deflect attention away from their own racial reality?
http://www.brazzil.com/content/view/9817/80/
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Mzuri
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Post Number: 3693
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 4 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 02:55 pm: |
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Good. Now take your Black monkey macaco, safado, negro de merda, disgusting nojento senzala ass back to Brazil.
And take Lil Z with you.  |
Cynique
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Post Number: 7546
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 03:20 pm: |
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Personally, I found this to be an interesting article. And the questions it raised in comparing Brazil's racism to America's were legitimate. |
Lil_ze
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 04:57 pm: |
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hey what else is new?
this issue of color in brazil is nothing new.
despite ALL the rhetoric in the worls, brazil (nor any country) will EVER be able to erase or make black people turn white.
gee, there are negative terms used in brazil for black people?
i could have never imagined this (hows that for parody and satire, when trying to make a point ntfs).
if some brainwashed negroes from brazil (or any country) are stupid enough to believe the lies of their enemies, then these negroes are worthy of their place in brazilian culture.
wow, there are color issues in brazil?
i NEVER would have thought this (more parody and satire).
p.s.- id love to go back to brazil. the women there are just too dam fine, and the culture over there is just DRIPPING with sex!!!!!! |
Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 1919
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 06:18 pm: |
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"Personally, I found this to be an interesting article. And the questions it raised in comparing Brazil's racism to America's were legitimate."
Yes it is, that's why I posted the article despite the chicken shit haters venom and jealousy. Although the country has the image of racial harmony, that is not exactly true. But there is no country in the world where religious animosity, class discrimination, ethnic and racial tensions does not exist -NONE! Despite the veneer of ubiquitous cultural harmony, racial inequities do exist. And it is still is the world capital of yummy booties and exotically beautiful women. That fact hasn't changed.
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Mzuri
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Post Number: 3696
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 06:33 pm: |
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And it's the South American HIV/AIDS capital.
http://www.usaid.gov/our_work/global_health/aids/Countries/lac/brazil.html
Some of you negro de merdas are so damn stupid.
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Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 1923
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 06:44 pm: |
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Some of you negro de merdas are so damn stupid.
True. I agree. That's why they post statements that were never in dispute nor were they being debated.
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Serenasailor
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 06:56 pm: |
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No Lil_ze you are proof that Blacks are not human. Because stupid ass Blacks like you "run around" and worship ppl of other races.
You hate and despise yourself and everyone in the world sees that. That is why no one regards you as "Human". You insist that the only Black women that are beautiful are the ones who can "pass" for women of another race. Which cancels out 99% of all women including the ones in your family.
Black ppl are inferior because we regard ourselves as inferior. And everyone in the world can see it.
And PLEASE!! Don't sit up here and name some stupid, token Black actress that you find attractive. That is equivalent to the racist, redneck white person that names that "one" Negro that they like but they hate the majority of the Black race.
Like Manzuri said in her last post. Black ppl hate eachother and don't regard others as Human. Why should anyone else??? |
Lil_ze
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 10:58 pm: |
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please note that serenasailor has stated that HE feels black people are INFERIOR.
i don't feel that the only beautiful black women are those who can "pass" for white.
there is no way that i hate nor despise myself, because i was raised with the belief that our people are the chosen people, who are destined to rule the planet earth, as we once did.
serenasailor, you are a very disturbed person, who is constantly talking about skin color/shade.
just remember that it was you (serenasailor) who said that blacks were inferior. |
Latina_wi
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Post Number: 217
Registered: 08-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 09:36 am: |
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Serenasailor: Like Manzuri said in her last post. Black ppl hate eachother and don't regard others as Human. Why should anyone else???
That is so true.
But the thing is, there are a proportion of Brasillians who believe that 'white is right' but to the same extent there are MANY brasillians who do not adhere to that view.
Brasil has a large part of it's country that is dedicated to it's african roots and depicts that part of their history. They have a festival to celebrate it also. I have met white brasillian who get caught up in this also.
When a country is multiracial of course there will be certain 'tensions', it is hardly surprising. |
Mzuri
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 11:41 am: |
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Latina Wi - Please don't quote something that I did not write. In other words, SS is attributing me with comments that I did not make. Thank you.
And NT - You sound like a desperate mark praising the greatness of Brazilian women when there is an AIDS epidemic in Brazil and most of the women there don't even receive proper health care because they are living in abject poverty. The average income of the Brazilian is less than $2.00 per day - of course they're happy to see an American trick who visits there for sexual services/favors which they receive payment for. That's a no-brainer. Why brag about the fact that you are a john who can't get a woman in the U.S.???
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Chrishayden
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 03:40 pm: |
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That's a no-brainer. Why brag about the fact that you are a john who can't get a woman in the U.S.???
Mzuri:
This remark is beneath you. Apologize to the good person. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 1930
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 04:14 pm: |
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"And NT - You sound like a desperate mark praising the greatness of Brazilian women when there is an AIDS epidemic in Brazil and most of the women there don't even receive proper health care because they are living in abject poverty."
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! When I read this hysterical retaliatory rant, I laughed. Still laughing. First of all, you quoting the AIDS rate in Brazil means nothing. Yes, it does have a high rate of AIDS concentrated among the black, poor and street prostitutes which does not represent Brazilian women as a group. So your personal revelation (AIDS in Brazil) has no bearing whatsoever about what I said as Brazil being the booty capital of the planet or having some of the most exotic women in the world. Besides, why do you even care? Why are you so sensitive and taking my comments so personal?
"The average income of the Brazilian is less than $2.00 per day - of course they're happy to see an American trick who visits there for sexual services/favors which they receive payment for. That's a no-brainer."
True...true....if you're dealing with street walkers or paying for sex from low level prostitutes. That should be a concern. But who mentioned anything about being with street walkers and prostitutes? Duhhhhhhh...?? I didn't. Or did you just throw that out there in a desperate attempt to make a point that has no point? That's exactly why I said, "That's why they post statements that were never in dispute nor were they being debated." Got it?
"Why brag about the fact that you are a john who can't get a woman in the U.S.???"
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! That's funny. Another one of your toxic cheap shots. Didn't work. Once again, your jealous vitriol about AIDS and tricks has nothing to do with me or the statements I made about Brazilian women. And for the record, getting dates or relationships with women is something that has never been a problem for me -period! There is no magic to getting a date or sex from the opposite sex. Perhaps it may be a problem for you, so I suggest you restrict your comments to such and not about me least you don't mind being in error.
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Lil_ze
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 04:50 pm: |
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im with you on this one ntfs.
you make some very good points.
i don't undersatnd why some people seem to get so "bent out of shape", when someone mentions a clear truth-
that the women of brazil ARE probably the most exotic and beautiful women on the planet.
what does AIDS and the fact that the average income in brazil is $2.00, have to do with the fact that women from brazil are beautiful.
all of a sudden prostitution is brought up, in some attempt to cast a negative light on a persons opinion that the women of brazil are AMAZINGLY BEAUTIFUL.
and they are.
as far as prostitution goes in brazil or ANYWHERE for that matter, i always say-
if you are a guy you are going to pay to get sex one way or another.
if anyone doubts this, ask yourself do you think your girlfriend/sex partner would be with you if you were penniless, and without a place to live?
there is payment for the sex a man gets from a woman.
this payment is not always direct, but if you are a guy, believe me you are going to pay one way or another.
paying whores for sex (and im not talking about disease ridden streetwalkers) can be GREAT fun.
its sometimes alot easier than going through all the crap (acting like you are interested in what a female has to say, going on "dates" etc) you have to go through just to be able to get into a females pants.
95% of the time im just interested in getting sex from a female anyway.
paying whores for sex has ZERO to do with ones ablity to get a date or sex from the opposite sex.
charlie sheen (the actor)as well as many powerful and wealthy sports figures, businessmen etc have long histories of paying whores for sex.
does anyone think these guys couldn't get "dates" or sex without paying these whores?
sure they could.
but there is a certain "excitment" that comes along with nailing whores for money
VIVA BRAZIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Latina_wi
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 05:09 pm: |
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Lil_ze: that is the most cynical post I have ever read.
But going by the thread about Amani, hey maybe your right lol!
And I don't like to make generalisations but I have seen quite a few hot Brasillian women! |
Mzuri
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 05:19 pm: |
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Poor NT. Your rebuttal about me taking anything on this forum personally or that I'm jealous is lame. I couldn't care less what you do. You posted the above article about Blacks being thought of as sub-human, as if it comes as a surprise. You're the one who is consistently extolling the virtues of Brazilian women so why complain? You probably think it's cool to spend your tourist dollars in a nation that considers you to be "BLACK FECES." And it doesn't seem to bother you that the women you praise are desperate, starving, poverty struck and AIDS infested. They look good so I suppose that's all that matters.
Your spiel about how you don't deal with street walkers or prostitutes is a dead giveaway. Sadly for you, frequenting high class call girls doesn't make you any less of a trick. And please don't bother trying to convince anyone about how you have a Brazilian "girlfriend" and that you are a chick magnet.
If getting dates is not a problem then you wouldn't take your dumb ass to Brazil to get laid.
Take my advice and keep your teeny weenie shriveled up pencil dick in your pants where it belongs. And don't travel to foreign countries to have sex with the locals.
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Mzuri
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 05:21 pm: |
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You too Lil Dick. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! |
Lil_ze
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 05:53 pm: |
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i don't know if the "country of brazil" considers black people "black feces".
because there are like 60 MILLION or more black people who live in brazil.
if brazil thinks this way, then what would you say america considers black people?
sure there are some elements of brazilian society that feel this way, but it no different than the united states.
by to say the "nation of brazil" considers someone (black people) "black feces" is abit too broad of a brush stroke.
im not sure that ALL of the females are "AIDS infested".
and agian, screwing whores for money is NOT about ones ability to "get dates".
its about the great fun nailing hot women for a few bucks can be.
and these girls will do ANYTHING you want them to do.
it sure beats spending hours, days, and weeks,going though the "normal route" just trying to get in some girls pants.
NEWFLASH-
whether or not they admit it, guys like nailing whores.
its not called "the worlds oldest profession" for nothing.
VIVA BRAZIL!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 1932
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 03:33 pm: |
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"Poor NT. Your rebuttal about me taking anything on this forum personally or that I'm jealous is lame. I couldn't care less what you do."
Good. Then that means we won't hear anymore of your chicken shit attempts at personal digs when my commentary has nothing to do with you.
"You posted the above article about Blacks being thought of as sub-human, as if it comes as a surprise."
Ya know, I must say this Mzuri, I'm very surprised you would make a statement like that because to be honest, I've admired many of your posts. I thought they were often cynical but very sharp and very well written. I like that. So what's my point? I'm shocked that you would make such a petty accusation because I never said that! When I said blacks were subhuman, it was said in the context of how white racists (e.g. Nazis) see black people. I NEVER PERSONALLY SAID NOR SUGGESTED THAT BLACK PEOPLE WERE SUBHUMAN!! Again, the comment reflected how white racists see blacks. You can make the discernment can't you?
"You're the one who is consistently extolling the virtues of Brazilian women so why complain? You probably think it's cool to spend your tourist dollars in a nation that considers you to be "BLACK FECES." And it doesn't seem to bother you that the women you praise are desperate, starving, poverty struck and AIDS infested. They look good so I suppose that's all that matters."
How does one respond to such vindictive and misguided toxic drivel? Cheeezzzz....! Never spent any of my dollars on hookers. Don't have to. It would be like you paying for air. I have no idea where your fantasy about hookers comes from. Sorry. Secondly, I'm no more responsible for people in a nation considering me to be "BLACK FECES" as are you for non-black Americans believing you are a "fat black crack head shiftless and lazy welfare recipient". That's not what I think but I'm sure there are racists who think that about you for no other reason than being black and female. That racist stereotype is their reality. ARE YOU RESPONSIBLE FOR SUCH THINKING?? CAN YOU CONTROL IT?? End of subject.....
"Your spiel about how you don't deal with street walkers or prostitutes is a dead giveaway. Sadly for you, frequenting high class call girls doesn't make you any less of a trick."
Hmmmmmm......Are you doing drugs before you post? Or are these continual references to prostitution part of some deep manifestation of your personal history? No where did I mention anything about being involved with prostitutes or buying sex. I don't have to pay prostitutes for anything. Why would I? I've never had problems with dating or women. And if you have ever taken the time to notice, there is no shortage of women. Now, I'm not opposed to prostitution because I think it should be legalized like it is in most Western Nations. But for some odd reason, you seem to be obsessed with it. Why? Was it something you did back in the day? And I'm not judging you, just curious....
"And please don't bother trying to convince anyone about how you have a Brazilian "girlfriend" and that you are a chick magnet."
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Don't have to. I don't have a Brazilian girlfriend nor did I ever say I was a chick magnet. Once again, there is no magic in getting dates or having sex. Maybe for you it is -I don't know, but I was stating a fact that booty calls, serious or casual dating is not rocket science nor is it difficult. What do you not understand?
"If getting dates is not a problem then you wouldn't take your dumb ass to Brazil to get laid."
Wow! You are off your meds aren't you? Who said I went to Brazil just to get laid? That's never happened in my personal history but it seems to be a fantasy of yours. You keep droning on and on about it. For the record Boo Boo, ya don't have to go to Brazil to get laid! There is no shortage of free and willing punanny right here in the USA!!! You didn't know that? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
"Take my advice and keep your teeny weenie shriveled up pencil dick in your pants where it belongs."
Oh really? And you know for a fact that it's a teeny weenie-shriveled up pencil dick? Uhhhhh......I don't think so. It wasn't like that this morning. It ain't teeny and it was working just fine! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Sorry, but your childish attempts at male penis bashing won't work. I'm surprised you would try something as desperate as that. But I'm cool with it. In fact, every time you do it, I know you're getting more and more amped up and frantic for the kill. NOT!!! But ya know, I'm starting to enjoy it because it hurts you more to write it than for me to laugh at it. Oh, you don't think people know what you're trying to do?
"And don't travel to foreign countries to have sex with the locals."
Ohhhhhhh......Ok.....I go it. Dang! Can't a guy have fun anymore? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
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Mzuri
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Post Number: 3724
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 03:41 pm: |
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You have entirely too much time on your hands. |
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