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Doberman23
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Username: Doberman23
Post Number: 796
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 05:57 am: | 
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ok i didn't catch all of it, because i don't normally watch b.e.t ... but i did catch the tail end of it.
so here is what they say are some of the top 25 reasons, that have mishaped black people or basically are the reasons why some of has issues.
1.slavery
2. aids
3. drugs
4. segregation/ aparthide (sp?)
5. media
6. gangs
7. assasination of malcom and martin
8. ronald regan
9. supreme court (jim crow laws)
10. jewelry (bling)
11. katrina
12. negative hip hop
and thats all i caught, it was hosted by paul mooney, it was interesting, like i said i wish i had caught it from the beginning. |
Doberman23
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Post Number: 797
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 06:01 am: |
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(religion) christianity was one of the reasons too |
Latina_wi
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Username: Latina_wi
Post Number: 149
Registered: 08-2006
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 08:18 am: |
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Agree with all of the top twelve. I know it isn't exactly an event but I think that ignorance and lack of motivation helped the decline of black americans.
This also ties in with the rise of AIDs and the whole negative hip hop angle also. The fact that many young black american kids have thrown King's hard work right back in his face is very disappointing.
Lest we forget Gravey too, who tried to instil pride in people he really believed in. |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 3689
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 12:02 pm: |
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Agree with all of the top twelve. I know it isn't exactly an event but I think that ignorance and lack of motivation helped the decline of black americans.
(You see this is the very essense of ignorance.
Let me ask everybody BLACK this--would you rather live in 1940, 1950, 1960, 1970, 1980, 1990 or Now?
They did this on a radio show yesterday. Negroes were calling up screaming about the good old days. Turns out we have a higher graduation from High School than EVER!
Face it. Self loathing Negroes, which includes a sizable portion of them, want to be white and white folks wish we would just disappear.
Until this happens, expect plenty of meaningless useless bellyaching. |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 3690
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 12:03 pm: |
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To that end, I add
Integration
The Rise of the so called Black Middle Class
Black flight to the suburbs
The election of Ronald Reagan in 1980 |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 3572
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 01:06 pm: |
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Did BET cite itself for its negative impact upon the Black community? |
Cynique
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Post Number: 7405
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 01:39 pm: |
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I agree with all 12 of those items listed, but I do not agree with the first 3 items that chrishayden added. If Chris had his way, black Americans would all be required to lead cloistered spartan existences, doing what has never been demanded of any other group, bypassing the fruits of their labor. In you live in America, then why not carve out your niche in the American dream like everyone else does. As for what decade I apreciated the most, I'd say the span between 1975 and 1985. The civil rights struggle had leveled off and the war in Vietnam was over, blacks were making progress and above all, there was so much fun to be had; wearing afros, the platform shoes and bell bottoms, the disco dancing, the music of Prince and Michael Jackson, and Whitney and Earth Wind and Fire and Sly Stone and the whole funkadelic family, the break through in black film making, the explosion of black pop literature. But this era didn't last. Shit happened. |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 3699
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 01:54 pm: |
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Shit happened
(Tell the truth. The Empire struck back. What happened during 1975-1985 was that Blacks thought they had won, had it made, gave up the struggle to party and wear ridiculous clothes.
And you got Ronald Reagan, Bush, etc. An end to all that progressivism.
The U.S. has gone back. There once were progressive Republicans. There are none now. You once had real progressive Democrats. Now they are centrist.
The perfect America that exists in the mind of the power structure is about 1890.
If Chris had his way, black Americans would all be required to lead cloistered spartan existences, doing what has never been demanded of any other group, bypassing the fruits of their labor
(You just can't get it straight can you? One minute you are crowing that we are all down and out and doomed. You talk about welfare moms, black criminals, dropouts, all that.
Then the next minute we are just doing hunky dory and I am trying to deny blacks the fruits of their labors.
Face it. You are schizoid.
What is it that is driving you to such behavior?) |
Cynique
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Post Number: 7409
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 02:36 pm: |
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You're the one who is schzoid, chrishayden. Your the one who is the prophet of doom for the future of black people, calling them fools one minute and shedding tears for them the next. Criticizing them when they become upwardly mobile, lamenting when they backslide. And I said shit happened. So all you are doing is elaborating on the point I conceded. I admit that I tend to adopt the cynical idea that that "them that gots gets and god bless the child who has his own". But I've yet been able to figure out just what you would consider an ideal scenario for black people in America. All you do is stand around talking about self-loathing negroes. I would think you'd be a rabid supporter of Obama, but no. All you do is arrogantly dismiss his chances. You are the consummate malcontent. |
Latina_wi
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Username: Latina_wi
Post Number: 153
Registered: 08-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 09:43 am: |
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(You see this is the very essense of ignorance.
Let me ask everybody BLACK this--would you rather live in 1940, 1950, 1960, 1970, 1980, 1990 or Now?
They did this on a radio show yesterday. Negroes were calling up screaming about the good old days. Turns out we have a higher graduation from High School than EVER!
Face it. Self loathing Negroes, which includes a sizable portion of them, want to be white and white folks wish we would just disappear.
Until this happens, expect plenty of meaningless useless bellyaching.
lATINA_wi: I am going to answer this as I am also BLACK chris. The fact that old days were hard doesn't take away the fact that black people in america, and all over the world, still have it bad and are still not treated as equals. A lot of this is also our fault.
We fight and argue within the race and we throw a lot of what our forefathers fought so hard for right back in our face.
Do you know, african descented people in america are performing better but relatively we are still performing badly.. And your saying that is okay basically because we are doing better than we did before. Please... |
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