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Serenasailor
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Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 1242
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 05:44 pm: | 
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Shouldn't Thandie Newton play Lena Horne when she dies? Thandie looks like a very young Lena Horne to me. If not who should play her?? |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 8366
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 06:06 pm: |
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Does Thandie look White-enuff to portray Lena? I'm not sure. Maybe Angelina Jolie would be a more realistic choice.
FTFO!!! |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 7285
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 08:07 pm: |
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Damn, Serenasailor, why would you come up with Thadie Newton, an English actress whose father is an African from Kenya and whose mother is white, to play an black American legend like Lena Horne? Thadie's like a female version of Barak. snicker. I don't even think she and Lena look alike. Janet Jackson entertained the idea of playing this role, but Lena balked after Janet had that wardrobe mishap at the super bowl. Beyonce could maybe play her if she went on the same crash diet she did to lose all that weight for Dream Girls. Lena was very svelte and come to think of it, Beyonce's singing voice is very reminiscent of Lena's. |
Serenasailor
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Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 1245
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 10:13 pm: |
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Wrong Cynique Thandie's mother is African from Zimbabwe and her father is White/British Officer. I think she would be a wonderful one to play Lena. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 7288
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 10:49 pm: |
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I stand corrected about the specifics of Thadie's heritage, Serensailor, but she is still mixed and foreign-born and the epitome of what you are always bitching about. I still don't see her as Lena. She doesn't project a compelling presence like Lena. |
Latina_wi
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Username: Latina_wi
Post Number: 104
Registered: 08-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 05:40 am: |
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I had to look Lena Horne but they DO lookalike. Both gorgeous women, and Thandie is a great actress in my opinion. |
Serenasailor
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Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 1247
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 12:45 pm: |
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I had to look Lena Horne but they DO lookalike. Both gorgeous women, and Thandie is a great actress in my opinion.
Agreed not only that I think Thandie Newton is a beautiful woman. She is mixed just like Lena Horne Che-Na-Na. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 7292
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 12:51 pm: |
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Just because Thadie and Lena are both gorgeous doesn't mean they look alike. Thadie has a baby face and a tentative persona. Lena's face is seductively contoured and as a singer, she had an electrifying presence. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 7293
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 12:55 pm: |
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Lena Horne is not mixed, Serenasailor. Both of her parents were black and she came from a very prominent black family who could trace their roots way back, but they fell on hard times which is why Lena had to go into show biz at an early age in order to become the breadwinner. |
Serenasailor
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Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 1248
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 01:25 pm: |
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Lena Horne is a mixed woman. Just because Negrosoids like you want to claim everybody as "Black" doesn't mean I have too. Lena Horne is only Black because Negroes like you choose to live "up under" that stupid "One Drop Rule".
And just like Thandie Newton, Lena Horne only dealt exclusively with White men. She also did not like being called "Black" just like Thandie Newton.
So the similiarities are "uncanny". CHE-NA-NA!!! |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 4450
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 02:03 pm: |
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Toni Braxton, maybe? I don't know what Toni looks like today but I think they should go for an Upper class (looking) Black actress because Lena Horn was at least culturally Black and she represents Black history - not multiracial history or any other else. |
Yvettep
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Post Number: 1654
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 02:05 pm: |
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She also did not like being called "Black"
I admit to not knowing a lot about Horne. But I recently saw the doc about Billy Strayhorn and the picture of her that emerged from that was definitely not one of a woman who denied her Blackness. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 7295
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 02:23 pm: |
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Lena Horne's first marriage was to a black man; she also had a torrid affair with heavyweight champion Joe Louis as well as Duke Ellington and, as Yvette alluded to, considered Ellington's musical arranger Billy Strayhorn, who was black and gay, as her soul mate. And having been subjected to racial discrimination all during her career, she became active in the civils rights movment during the 50s joining with other black celebrities to support and march with Martin Luther King. A history of the Horne family written by Lena's daugther Gail, says that their family was very much a product of the black middle class caste system, but they never considered themselves anything other than "black." |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 7296
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 02:31 pm: |
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You sound like you are confusing Lena Horne with Eartha Kitt, Serenasailor. Eartha never embraced her blackness and always consorted with white men, and tried to pass herself off as "mixed" and always wanted to be thought of as a "raceless" entertainer. She also had a pugnacious little "cute" face like Thadie Newton. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 7297
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 02:43 pm: |
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Toni Braxton is more in the vein of Lena as a singer, Tonya, but - well, she kinda looks like a turtle in the face. Lena's face has more classical lines. |
Serenasailor
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Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 1249
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 02:43 pm: |
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Lena Hornes first marriage was to an old white director(Sidney Lumet). He directed the "Wizard of Oz". They eloped. Not only that Lena Horne had all of her children by white men. Her last husband was to a Black man. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 7298
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 02:54 pm: |
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You are confused, Serensailor. Lena's daugher Gail married Sidney Lumet. Lena's second husband was white Lenny Hayton who was her musical director. Her first marriage was to a black man named Louis Jordan Jones and he is who her 2 children Gail and Teddy were by. |
Serenasailor
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Post Number: 1250
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 02:56 pm: |
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Wrong Tonya. There is no such thing as "Culturally Black". The only way you can be "Culturally Black" is if you are "Genetically Black". Black blood makes you "Black". And in all fairness "lets be real" Lena had just as much White/Indian blood in her as she did Black. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 7299
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 03:04 pm: |
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You can only express an opinon on the issue of being "culturally black", Serenasilor because nobody has appointed you as, or voted you in to the position of the arbitrator who determines who is and who isn't black. You cannot speak for millions of slave descendants on this subject. |
Americansista
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Username: Americansista
Post Number: 317
Registered: 09-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 03:26 pm: |
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Lena Horne is BEAUTIFUL....one of the most beautiful, feminine women I've ever seen. Something about her just exudes class and grace. I don't think Bey could pull it off. They don't look alike nor are they built the same. Thandi would be a better choice but she doesn't look like her either...but the magic of makeup in Hollyweird could surprise us. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 3477
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 03:42 pm: |
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Scientists should clone Lena and then she could play herself!!!
 
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Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 7300
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 03:42 pm: |
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If it's all a matter of make-up then why not go with Janet Jackson? Anybody chosen for this role should at least be someone who is a singer and dancer. Thadie Newton ain't nobody but a milk-faced actress of average talent who's probably very unfamiliar with Lena Horne. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 7301
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 03:47 pm: |
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I been waiting for you to do your "thing" and post their pictures, Mzuri. Now we can better make up our minds. Thanx |
Savant
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Username: Savant
Post Number: 153
Registered: 09-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 05:39 pm: |
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I had the pleasure of meeting Lena Horne on the east side of Manhattan, while she was walking in the east 70's. She remains the most gracious, down-to-earth, approachable celebrity I've ever encountered. Not to mention that she's even more drop-dead gorgeous in person... |
Yukio
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Post Number: 1779
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 05:47 pm: |
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hmmm....ive thought of LH as attractive, but never 'drop dead gorgeous,... her features are a bit....narrow to me. I like her eyes, but thats about it...I can do w/o out her complexion and especially her nose. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 7303
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 05:58 pm: |
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I always had a problem with Lena's acquiline nose also, and her smile seemed kinda false but I wouldn't discount that she looked better in person. Minor points, I guess, since her main appeal was the sexy way she could put a song across. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 3479
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 07:22 pm: |
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Don't you all remember when she was considered the MOST beautiful Black woman on the face of the earth? |
Yukio
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Username: Yukio
Post Number: 1783
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 07:30 pm: |
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cynique: good word choice...acquiline. I think you and ABM have the best vocabularies... |
Tonya
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Post Number: 4459
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 10:09 pm: |
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SS, interesting, never looked at it that way. I agree that she's not genetically Black. But it’s possible for people to take on a culture that isn't their own. In fact, I saw it done many times before, flawlessly. Which is exactly why I don't robotically equate cultural Blackness with being Black; it's so easy for people to adopt another culture. |
Yukio
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Username: Yukio
Post Number: 1784
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 11:01 pm: |
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There is no such thing as race, so to call someone black means what exactly? If we are talking about color then few people are actually "black." Too, if we are talkin about blood, then again, few socalled African Americans are 'black.' Just because you can not see it doesn't mean that it aint there....
culture is something that is learned, it is not genetic, serenasailor. If that was the case, Africans would embrace socalled black Americans as Africans... |
Brownbeauty123
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Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 1724
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 09:24 am: |
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Yukio, in the real world, people identify you by what race you are. And weren't you the one who was arguing that Kathleen Neal was a Black woman? Why the change of heart? |
Serenasailor
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Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 1254
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 12:27 pm: |
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Cynique, Lena was married to Sidney Lumet which is why her daughter is named Gail Lumet Buckley. Gail married a man named Buckley. Lena then married Lennie Hayton. He was another white director. |
Serenasailor
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Post Number: 1255
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 12:30 pm: |
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Lena Horne wasn't pretty to me either Yukio. Although I think Thandie is beautiful and very talented. But I do believe that Lena was a very good entertainer which is why she was so successful.
NOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN. DOROTHY DANDRIDGE!!!!! |
Yukio
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Post Number: 1792
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 12:43 pm: |
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Brownbeauty123: Good question, now I know why you started the other thread.
I'm quite familiar with what you call the "real" world. There is the human race. But no, there is no black or white or yellow race. There is racism but no race. And finally, on my usage of 'black,' I use it because it is more or less assessible for the majority of you.
In the "real" world, that is the imagined world, its less about 'truth' and more about being understood and getting what you need for basic survival. Ever seen the Matrix?
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Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 7304
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 01:00 pm: |
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Sereanasailor, all you have to do is google Sidney Lumet to find out the facts. What follows is an excerpt from his biogrpahy: "Lumet is the former son-in-law of Lena Horne; was married to her daughter, the journalist and author Gail Lumet Buckley nee Gail Jones". I was not speculating about this because I KNOW Lumet was never married to Lena Horne. But since you are reluctant to take my word, I suggest you research it yourself. Lena Horne is almost 90 years old and was not married to Lumet. Her second husbandwas Lenny Heyton who was white. I repeat her first husband was black and the father her 2 children.
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Doberman23
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Post Number: 760
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 10:20 pm: |
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i'm not really impressed with the thadster, i think they should find someone new to do it.
cynique, i bet you bill cosby would still hit it if he got a chance to. |
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