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Ntfs_encryption
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Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 02:42 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is for New Yorkers only. I came across this in a blog last night and I was wondering if there is any truth to it. Any info....?

Caribbean Blacks Only...?

There REALLY are three types of word processing centers in New York City.

1. Word Processing Centers in which all of the managers and temps are gay;

2. Word Processing Centers in which all of the managers and temps are hard-up White Beauches; (are there any other kind of White Beauches in New York City?);

3. Word Processing Centers in which all of the managers and temps are butt-ugly psycho Black Beauches from the Caribbean.

When you see the kind of ugly stupid Black Women that law firms specialize in hiring, you get the BIG PICTURE of Racism in New York City. Nobody but Lawyers would hire the Black Women working at law firms for anything. Only Law Firms could interview the kind of Butt Ugly Beauches from the Carrbbean working in law firms and decide to hire them.

Am I the only person who finds it strange when you realize that NONE of the Black people working for a company are AMERICAN BORN Blacks? I have never met a Black Bank Teller at any bank in New York City who WAS NOT from the Caribbean. I was temping at Cadwalader one weekend and I heard these Blacks talking in the Word Procesing Center, they were ALL from Jamaica. How the fahk do all the Black People working for a company just happen to all be from Jamaica?.

When you see the kind of Black Women working in Law Firms, you realize that Companies in New York City Hate American Born Black Men so much they are willing to hire Gorillas before they hire American Born Black Men.

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Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 02:56 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

According to a new report from website RetirementJobs.com, almost all employees – some 96 per cent - believe that age bias is a continuing problem while some three-quarters (77 per cent) claim to have actually experienced or observed ageism where they work.

More than half (54 per cent) also believe that ageism is actually getting worse, with just 12 per cent hopeful that it is on the decline.

But these figures are some three times higher than those for employers, more than a third of whom (36 per cent) claim that age bias is on the decline and only 18 per cent of whom perceive it as getting worse.

Employees are also far less optimistic that ageism will be eradicated any time soon. They are almost five times more likely than employers to believe their organisation is making no conscious effort to retain and recruit workers age 50+, while fewer than one in 10 can identify any specific policies or practices intended to recruit or retain workers aged 50 or over.

"For some time, age bias has been part of our culture," says Marcie Pitt-Catsouphes, co-director of the Boston College Center on Aging & Work/Workplace Flexibility.

"Therefore, it should come as no surprise that negative stereotypes about age can be present at the workplace."

Nevertheless, despite the fact that almost eight out of 10 employers said that ageism is "just a fact of life", she said she was encouraged by the study's finding that a large proportion of employers believe that it is on the decline.

But while the belief in age bias remains all-pervasive, look more closely and it seems that the incidence of discrimination is less than workers' as well as employers' perceptions would suggest.

Indeed, the report says that despite more than 300 Age Bias Survey participants providing comments describing "age bias I have experienced or observed," fewer than 10 individuals provides any apparent factual or substantial basis for their claim.

This may simply reflect an indifference or reluctance to report personal specifics in a survey, the report suggests, or it may point to the fact that ageism manifests itself as 'sense' of discrimination and an unwritten rule that older workers are fixed in their ways, inflexible, not team players and cost too much.

But while this may well be so, the report's author, Bob Skladany, Director of Research at RetirementJobs.com, stresses that ageism may be on the decline, arguing that employers "know something employees may not know: that long-predicted worker shortages are upon us, and therefore employers must hire more workers age 50+."

Or, as Tim Driver, CEO of RetirementJobs.com puts it, "workplace age bias is undergoing its own phased retirement."

"Older employees are electing to work longer than planned. Employers, meanwhile, increasingly understand the merits of retaining and hiring workers that connect with customers, are dedicated, turn over less often (than younger employees), and hold valuable lessons learned from their prior careers," Driver added.

Demographic change will only intensify this trend. The proportion of workers aged 50 or more growing far faster than younger workers and will comprise a third of the total U.S. labour force by 2011.

As a result, areas such as healthcare, retail, customer services, sales, financial services, the crafts and trades, engineering, skilled manufacturing, the sciences, education and in government service are already experiencing a shortage of workers while facing further problems as large numbers of Baby Boomers retire over the next few years.

Bob Skladany stressed that age bias and discrimination cannot continue if the U.S. economy is to maintain growth and vitality.

"Labor market demand, global competitive realities, the aging of the U.S. workforce and the desire of older workers to remain gainfully employed, compel our society to remove the barriers, real and perceived, regarding age bias," he said.

http://www.management-issues.com/2007/1/30/research/age-bias-undergoing-its-own- phased-retirement.asp
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Serenasailor
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Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 11:34 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was this blog from a Black man??
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Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 06:52 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

im in nyc. there is a kind of unspoken train of thought amongst the white powers that be, that "west indian blacks" are harder working than u.s. born blacks.

there are many employment areas that are FULL of "west indian blacks".

there is a type of "divide and conquer thing" going on.

but also many west indian born blacks think they are somehow "better" or "smarter" than u.s. born blacks.

there is a show on "kiss-fm" radio station here in nyc. one of the hosts of the show once said its the-

"ANY N*IGGERS BUT YOU (american born blacks)" way of thought by society at large.

when you see the "nannies" of rich white people children, they are 95% (not an exact figure) west indian females.

its almost like west indian blacks are seen as less threatinging to "society", than american born blacks.

its an interesting topic, because you have many "black people" in the u.s. who descend from "west indian blacks", but have been born here in thee states.

but there is DEFINATELY a "west indian only" frame off mind going on in many places of employment. atleast here in nyc.
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Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 07:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yep, this does seem to be the case in NYC. If it bothers anyone, here's a tip:

Ask to speak with the manager, supervisor, etc. Complain that you do not understand the Caribbean English dialect and request a translator or someone who speaks American English with an American accent. By law they have to provide you with someone who speaks your "language."

Works for me.
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Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 08:52 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I can't remember the last time I spoke with a customer service rep that didn't have a foreign accent, and usually the person is not Black, I’m surprised that many of you can recall such conversations.
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Ntfs_encryption
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Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 10:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"but there is DEFINATELY a "west indian only" frame off mind going on in many places of employment. atleast here in nyc."

Thanks for shedding light on this subject Lil_Ze. I haven't been to NYC in years but last time I was there (and when I lived there for a short period) it seemed as if I was the only native born American black. It was kinda weird coming from the Midwest. It seemed as if every black person I encountered was from the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, Caribbean or Africa.

"Ask to speak with the manager, supervisor, etc. Complain that you do not understand the Caribbean English dialect and request a translator or...........provide you with someone who speaks your "language.""

Good tip US. Sounds like an alternative to the outsourcing of US jobs when you're tired of hearing a non North American accent.


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Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 11:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


well ntfs, being that new york is the "capital of the world" in a sense, "it comes with the territory", that there are blacks from EVERY corner of the planet earth here.

the american born blacks (in nyc) really get "pushed aside" in favor of "blacks" from other parts of the world.

im really considering leaving nyc (i live just outside the city).

not because of the influx of non-born blacks who are used to "keep native born blacks down".

but because new york in general just is not the same place it used to be.

im probably going off on a tangent.

nyc must be seen as the "promised land" by every west indian black.

if you were to go to certain areas of brooklyn, you would think you were in kingston jamaica.

many blacks here in nyc are leaving for southern states.

im not saying its because of an influx of "non-american born blacks".

but the nyc area in general is just very expensive to live in.

how does 600 dollars a month for a ROOM sound?

im talking about a ROOM.

no cooking, no bathroom, nothing.

just a room. and this is in the lower income areas.

where i live a one bedroom is about 1,300 a month to start.

i almost fall on the floor when i go out of state and see what people are paying for rent.

the nyc are has to be one of the most (if not the most) expensive areas in america to live.

and its only getting worse.



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Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 12:14 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yeah, it sounds like you might consider moving on. It depends on what you want and the environment you want to live in. I know when I go back to Ohio, I'm tempted to buy a house just to do so. It's so cheap compared to San Diego where the average home is around $435,000. I could get an identical home in Ohio with the same square footage from any where from (depending on the area of course) $50,000 to $165,000. It makes no sense.

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Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 10:07 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ah yes, Lil_ze, the cost of living in NYC has skyrocketed. It's always been expensive to live in NYC, but now it's just ridiculous. Lots of people are heading to the South and Midwest. I live in a quiet residential Queens neighborhood and a studio apartment around here starts at $1,000. That's just insane.

One of my girlfriends recently separated from her husband and moved into a two-bedroom apartment nearby me. She's paying $1900 a month rent - that doesn't include utilities. In other states, that's a mortgage on a three-bedroom, two bathroom house.

I have another girlfriend who works hard everyday and is a single mother of three. She earns around $50,000 a year, but she can't afford to move out the projects. She has a three-bedroom public housing apartment that she pays $750/month. If she moves out she's looking at $2200 - $2800/month for a three-bedroom apartment in a private apartment building. Outrageous!

I'm glad I bought my co-op when I did. My work keeps me in NY, but if I didn't have my co-op with an affordable monthly maintenance locked-in, I'd be heading to the South or Midwest, too.
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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 01:35 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

urbanscribe, you are SO correct.

nyc is just getting TOO expensive to live in.

even living in the 'hood' in nyc is expensive.

i live in westchester.

but i have family in queens (merrick blvd area).

another thing that i think new yorkers can understand is how much this city has changed.

say what you want about ed koch and david dinkins, but atleast new york WAS new york.

ever since gulliani started that "quality of life" garbage, new york has gone from a city that people could actually live freely (relatively) in, to a basic "police state" geared toward the rich.

ive lost a lot of faith in nyc.

its just not the same.

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