| Author | Message | ||
     Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 1702 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
Posted on Thu, Jan. 25, 2007 A Lousy Stereotype...???  Eddie Murphy playing a black woman in "Norbit." By Jenice Armstrong THEY'RE FAT, sassy and usually black! You see these plus-sized, wise-talking women in commercials hawking products such as Pine Sol and on the big screen - sometimes played by male actors dressed in fat suits. Old stereotypes die hard. And no matter how far the advertising and movie industries have come, the image of the overweight, loud-mouthed black woman is one that the bosses just can't seem to let go of. On Tuesday, I wrote about "Norbit," the latest movie to exploit the altogether-too-familiar racial caricature. The movie stars Eddie Murphy, who plays a morbidly obese woman who coerces a nerdy guy, also played by Murphy, into marrying him. Lately, there's been a spate of films featuring black male actors doing the drag-in-fat-suit thing. I'm referring to Martin Lawrence in that disaster of a movie, "Big Momma's House 2," Tyler Perry in "Madea's Family Reunion" and Murphy in "The Nutty Professor" and other movies. In each, otherwise-talented actors sink to goofing on overweight black women for the sake of a joke - and, no doubt, a hefty paycheck. At any rate, I'm not alone in being so over this. Since Tuesday, I've been getting e-mails from readers similarly offended by this kind of misogynistic humor. One wrote, "Somewhere there is an unwritten rule that all middle-aged black women are overweight, loud and usually dark skinned, okay?... You are too right the stereotype has gotten old very fast and what can we do about it but ignore it?" Payne Brown, a Chestnut Hill parent concerned about his daughter, had this to say: "I think the portrayal of black women as overweight, overbearing or ass-shaking, over-sexed vixens is evidence of the entertainment industry's hatred of black women... How else can one explain Flava Flav and now, ('I Love) New York' - VH1's contribution to the assault?" (Don't get me started on the ghetto-acting New York aka Tiffany Pollard from the "Flavor of Love" spinoff "I Love New York." That's a whole other column.) Then, there was a white reader married to a black woman who wrote, "I, personally, don't find anything funny about a man dressed as a woman, a man dressed as a fat woman or a black man dressed as a fat black woman... I guess these fellows will keep making these sorry movies as long as blacks pay to see them." "Eddie Murphy has made a career out of denigrating black folks from Buckwheat to 'Coming to America' to 'The Klumps' to 'The Nutty Professor,' " another reader pointed out. Why would Murphy, who has been nominated for an Academy Award as best supporting actor for his role in "Dreamgirls," continue to resort to this kind of humor? Because there's phat money in it. The first "Big Momma's House" made $25.7 million in its debut weekend back in 2000. And when "Big Momma's House 2" debuted six years later, it experienced the biggest January opening since the 1997 re-release of "Star Wars: Special Edition." What's more, the very next month, "Madea's Family Reunion" opened to the tune of $30 million during its first week. "It's unsophisticated. It's primal. It's as basic as you can get," Mel Watkins, author of "On the Real Side: A History of African-American Comedy (Lawrence Hill Books, $16.95), told me earlier this week. "I don't think you'll ever get rid of it." Especially if moviegoers continue to shell out good money to see it. | ||
| Serenasailor Veteran Poster Username: Serenasailor Post Number: 1182 Registered: 01-2006 Rating: |
I posted the same post a couple of weeks ago however, I am going to say it again. He has no respect for Black women. SIMPLE AS SUCH!! And you can see how he feels about Black women with the type of women that he dates and surrounds himself around in "real life". | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 7093 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: |
Yep, Eddie Murphy has really made a caricature out of big butt black women. And to complete his sell-out status, he is making the awards scene with the modestly proportioned Tracy Edmonds on his arm. And did I forget to mention that Tracy is - LIGHT-SKINNED. tsk-tsk, Eddie will you fall from grace among your black fans? | ||
| Moonsigns Veteran Poster Username: Moonsigns Post Number: 1809 Registered: 07-2004 Rating: N/A |
I can't wait to see the movie. | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 8206 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: |
The worst part about Murphy's Norbit is how so very UNORIGINAL it is. I mean, even as the article says, what he's doing is equivalent to refrying beans someone else had already vomitted. | ||
| Brownbeauty123 Veteran Poster Username: Brownbeauty123 Post Number: 1704 Registered: 03-2006 Rating: |
"Yep, Eddie Murphy has really made a caricature out of big butt black women. And to complete his sell-out status, he is making the awards scene with the modestly proportioned Tracy Edmonds on his arm. And did I forget to mention that Tracy is - LIGHT-SKINNED. tsk-tsk, Eddie will you fall from grace among your black fans?" Every remark you make is always with the intent to instigate trouble. | ||
| Mzuri "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Mzuri Post Number: 3307 Registered: 01-2006 Rating: |
What sort of trouble, LAMEBRAIN???  | ||
| Brownbeauty123 Veteran Poster Username: Brownbeauty123 Post Number: 1705 Registered: 03-2006 Rating: |
This trouble, B1TCH.  | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 8209 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
BB123, That there's a rather, interesting electronic photo album you conveniently have access to, babe. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 7098 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Finally, Brownbeauty posted a picture of herself. ROTFLOL. There she lays waiting for Mr. Right. Serenasaaaaaaailor, you're being paged. | ||
| Moonsigns Veteran Poster Username: Moonsigns Post Number: 1811 Registered: 07-2004 Rating: N/A |
Is that even real? | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 7101 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Is brownbeauty real?? | ||
| Tonya AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 4306 Registered: 07-2006 Rating: |
I don't know. If it weren't for loud mouths like defense attorney Lauren Wright, we black folks would be in some kinda of trouble, boy, with these coon ni-ggers trynna force Black folks to the bottom of sea, Lord have mercy!! (Btw, batch Paula Zahn Lately? …Sistah Wright's blowing things up!!!) | ||
| Brownbeauty123 Veteran Poster Username: Brownbeauty123 Post Number: 1708 Registered: 03-2006 Rating: N/A |
"That there's a rather, interesting electronic photo album you conveniently have access to, babe" You can get them from Photobucket.com. | ||
| Chrishayden AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 3522 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
Yeah, Murphy is desperate. He will soon start appearing in porn movies with a fake penis. | ||
| Moonsigns Veteran Poster Username: Moonsigns Post Number: 1813 Registered: 07-2004 Rating: N/A |
And chick has got the nerve to wear a thong --LMAO! | ||
| Mzuri "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Mzuri Post Number: 3309 Registered: 01-2006 Rating: N/A |
Wow StankBooty - You definitely aren't a beauty. You've been fakin the funk all along. It's no damn wonder you can't get a man BITCHYBITCH!!! | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 1705 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
"Yeah, Murphy is desperate. He will soon start appearing in porn movies with a fake penis." Ya think...???? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! | ||
| Serenasailor Veteran Poster Username: Serenasailor Post Number: 1186 Registered: 01-2006 Rating: N/A |
Yeah, Murphy is desperate. He will soon start appearing in porn movies with a fake penis. Yeah Gay porn movies!! | ||
| Lil_ze Veteran Poster Username: Lil_ze Post Number: 711 Registered: 01-2006 Rating: N/A |
sure these films with black men dressed up as fat black women (or jamie foxx dressed up as a woman on "in living color") are stupid as hell. but some stereotypes are based on the realities we see everyday. clearly, im not saying that ALL fat black women are loud, pushy, obnoxious, sassy, and LOUD. but are there ANY posters on this board who can honestly say they have not encounntered this type of black woman? i "get" the point of there being a tendency for "hollywood", and (some) black actors to overly be involved in the production of these "type" of films, that do support this "stereotypical" portraight of "heavy black women", as being loud, sassy, and generally obnoxious in their behavior. but if there were not an abundance of these type of females in the "black community", movie goers could not relate to the character (nasty, fat black female) they see in the film. the reason these films get made is (partly) because "black folks" CAN and DO relate to (or understand, because they "know" this type of woman in "real life) the "fat, sassy, loud, black female stereotype. i would't pay one cent to see this film, but its a fact that many black people will. this is just how it is. | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 1706 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
"i would't pay one cent to see this film, but its a fact that many black people will. this is just how it is." Very true. Blacks seem to relate and savor these characterizations. If they did not, there is no way they could endure. If black people (as a group) rebelled against these types of negative images, blacks who portray them would have to seek other alternative characters to spoof. | ||
| Libralind2 Veteran Poster Username: Libralind2 Post Number: 540 Registered: 09-2004 Rating: N/A |
There was one of these women..as Lil Ze describes on American Idol last night..whew LiLi | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 1710 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
"There was one of these women..as Lil Ze describes on American Idol last night..whew" Oh Lawd!!! I saw her too. Couldn't believe it! | ||
| Libralind2 Veteran Poster Username: Libralind2 Post Number: 542 Registered: 09-2004 Rating: N/A |
I was hollering at the TV.."Please go sit your azz down" lollol LiLi | ||
| Lil_ze Veteran Poster Username: Lil_ze Post Number: 716 Registered: 01-2006 Rating: N/A |
america (the white powers that be) LOVE to show the most ignorant, foolish black people they can find on television. and SADLY, our people continue to act the fool day after day on television. sometimes i think there should be a law banning negroes (some) from television. the way some of these "black people" behave on television is simply appauling. there never seems to be a shortage of black fools willing to "play the role" in front of america. the female on american idol was just an example of the "low level" (mentally and socially) many of our people are on. sad, but VERY true. we see this type of behavior day in and day out, on the part of some of our people. | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 1712 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
"america (the white powers that be) LOVE to show the most ignorant, foolish black people they can find on television. and SADLY, our people continue to act the fool day after day on television. sometimes i think there should be a law banning negroes (some) from television. the way some of these "black people" behave on television is simply appauling. there never seems to be a shortage of black fools willing to "play the role" in front of america. the female on american idol was just an example of the "low level" (mentally and socially) many of our people are on." Lil_Ze, as much as I hate it, I can't argue with what you said. I have no idea where they find these Negroes. Have you ever watched Mury Povich when they do the "baby mama drama" shows?? OMG!!! Its an orgy of screaming chicken heads and knuckleheads on steroids! I can't stand to watch it any more!!! It's too hard core for me. | ||
| Lil_ze Veteran Poster Username: Lil_ze Post Number: 718 Registered: 01-2006 Rating: N/A |
sure ive seen the maury povich show. im sure maury and his producers sit back and laugh, about how they are able to earn a living off of bringing the MOST ignorant black folks on television to exploit themselves. i will say (in our peoples defense) that there is ALOT of white trash on the maury povich show aswell. but i really don't care if white trash "acts the fool" on t.v. its a true shame when you see our people making complete FOOLS out of themselves before america and the world. the really SCARY thing is, if this is how some of our people behave on television, CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT THEY MUST ACT LIKE WHEN THEY ARE IN THEIR "COMMUNITIES", WHEN THE "CAMERA IS OFF"? god help us all!!!!!!!!!! | ||
| Mzuri "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Mzuri Post Number: 3319 Registered: 01-2006 Rating: |
Well NT, it can't be no babymamadrama without the babydaddies. And those are the main culprits running around slinging dick left and right tricking women into thinking they give a ••••. The babymamas are at fault too, but it takes two to tango and it's the men that have two and three women pregnant at the same time. Thank you. | ||
| Lil_ze Veteran Poster Username: Lil_ze Post Number: 722 Registered: 01-2006 Rating: |
well mzuri, if the 2 or 3 pregnant women didn't ALLOW this man do ejaculate inside them, there would be no "drama". are these women "tricked" into sleeping with these deadbeats, or do they JUMP into bed WILLINGLY with anyone, and then "cry" about it? here's a TRUTH- MEN WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH AS MANY FEMALES AS THEY CAN. IN ORDER TO "GET OFF". a man can ONLY have a female (outside of forcefully raping her), if a female ALLOWS this man inside her. there is no "main culprit". both the man and the WOMAN are EQUALLY at fault. the woman is NOT "tricked into thinking the man "gives a sh*t". the women believe what they WANT to believe. these women are NOT forced to have sex with these men. but they DO IT ANYWAY. are they SO STUPID, that they can be "tricked" by the words of a man? or do these women simply sleep around, and sleep with anyone who tells them anything? i feel the latter is TRUE. these women are NOT innocent lambs. the know "what the deal is" when they sllep with these men. if these women are so dam dumb, as to sleep with men who they are not married to, and really only have a passing (booty-call) relationship with these men. then these women must lay in the bed that they have made for themselves. let us not try to subtly "point the finger at the men involved". these EASY women are just as gulity as the men. | ||
| Latina_wi Regular Poster Username: Latina_wi Post Number: 81 Registered: 08-2006 Rating: N/A |
Oh gosh... just read the plot synopsis for this rubbish. I plead with people not to go and see this movie so then they will stop feeding this world this crap. It is a shame because Eddie Murphy is talented. Just money hungry to a fault. | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 1775 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
"I plead with people not to go and see this movie so then they will stop feeding this world this crap." Awwwwwww....comon'. It's going to be a nice movie... |
