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Nels
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Username: Nels
Post Number: 746
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 10:28 pm: | 
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Don Cheadle, Eddie Murphy, Cedric "The Entertainer", Wesley Snipes, Jamie Fox, Randy Jackson (of American Idol)...and so on. Does one detect a sense of insecurity in these gentleman? If so, for what reason could that be? |
Eastwest
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Username: Eastwest
Post Number: 119
Registered: 12-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 10:05 am: |
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What exactly are you hinting at Nels?
I don't pay that much attention to male actors. |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 3487
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 11:22 am: |
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Please elaborate. |
Nels
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Username: Nels
Post Number: 748
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 02:44 am: |
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Think a little longer. |
Jackie
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Username: Jackie
Post Number: 389
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 01:43 pm: |
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Most of the men Nels listed except for Fox are dark skinned men. I THINK he wants the posters that regulary discuss issues about skin tone to take a look at these black male celebrities careers/life and to comment on whether these men deal with the same issues that dark skinned women experience. Like insecurity, rejection, etc. Do these men supposedly have similar disadvantages ? Does it apply to these men as well ? Since most of the time the topics are about dark skinned/toned women.
Am I close Nels ? |
Cynique
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Post Number: 6980
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 05:23 pm: |
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What all the men listed seem to have in common is that they are all black men, and that's why there's a hint of insecurity about them. LOL. |
Yukio
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Username: Yukio
Post Number: 1691
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 05:52 pm: |
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they like dem yellow heifers? LOL! Jus playin my red bone queen, i aint anti-yellow sistas [though i tend to prefer the darker hues]...i aint exactly the darkest brutha in the world myself... |
Tonya
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Post Number: 4248
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 08:07 pm: |
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"What all the men listed seem to have in common is that they are all black men, and that's why there's a hint of insecurity about them. LOL."
Not sure if you're really kidding but that's 100% correct, I couldn’t agree more! |
Tonya
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Post Number: 4249
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 08:11 pm: |
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...and the same goes for Black women OF ALL HUES. |
Tonya
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Post Number: 4250
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 08:30 pm: |
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Hell, if you really want to get down to it, you can say that about Asians and whites and Hispanics & etcetera; that's why the question is so ridiculous! LOL
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Yvettep
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Post Number: 1596
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 10:27 am: |
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Ohhh. I thought he hinting @ a DL thing or something... |
Nels
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Username: Nels
Post Number: 751
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 09:11 pm: |
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Yukio --
"they like dem yellow heifers? LOL! Jus playin my red bone queen, i aint anti-yellow sistas [though i tend to prefer the darker hues]...i aint exactly the darkest brutha in the world myself..."
Step right up and collect the $64,000 prize. It's not their skin color I was specifically referring to, it was the publicized and non-publicized headaches that they've had to endure with their lighter complexioned mates. The consistency of their chronic dilemma of insecurity with who they themselves are continues to rain on their parade. This observation will continue to evolve as these types of unions and breakups become more visible and noticeable. |
Yukio
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Post Number: 1699
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 11:20 pm: |
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thanks! Show me the money! |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 7019
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 11:09 am: |
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Come on, Nels. Surely you are not saying that black male celebrities, or black men in general, are insecure, and have to take flak for marrying a light-skinned women and that this is going to get worse in the future. This type of coupling is nothing new and has been going on for hundreds of years and is no big thing. It's having a white wife that causes the resentment. |
Nels
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Post Number: 755
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 04:54 pm: |
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Cyn --
"It's having a white wife that causes the resentment."
DSBM-LSBW unions have endured for centuries, yes. But within the last one-hundred and fifty years, those unions have yielded a highly visible level of personal and societal "insecurity" among DSBMs who wouldn't dare pair with DSBWs of their own phenotype. The opportunity to prove that they have "arrived" has usurped their common sense and the argument that "they" are constantly the victims of a colorist agenda of supression by the masses.
The "look at me with my LSBW" parade that infects their rationale plays out on the big screen as well. In mainstream TV and entertainment, BMs who are paired with LSBWs are almost exclusively DSBMs because that's the image that the media wants to portray - i.e., the de facto standard of the dark-skin black man and the light-skin black woman. And...regardless of their true relationship intentions, DSBMs will always catch some sort of flak over their obsession with LSBWs.
As far as white women are concerned, (within the black community) any resentment over "that" kind of relationship is pretty much strictly the problem of black women and no one else. BWs in general are under the false impression that BMs owe them some sort of loyalty and allegiance when in fact they are owed absolutely "nothing". Oddly enough, DSBMs have a tendency to avoid having to reverse assimilate into a mixed union by simply going up to the top limit of the color line, without spilling over into the challenging domain of the WM-WW relationship. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 7058
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 11:36 pm: |
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Well, what you describe might be the case among high profile black men, as far a having light-skinned wives are concerned, Nels. But I think you underestimate the negativity that emanates from all areas of the black community when a black man takes a white wife. |
Nels
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Post Number: 758
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 02:51 am: |
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Cyn --
"But I think you underestimate the negativity that emanates from all areas of the black community when a black man takes a white wife."
In today's racially diverse society, what the "black" community thinks about BM/WW relationships is basically irrelevant on any level. There is "no" valid merit in disliking those unions. Black folks really need to "get a grip". |
Urban_scribe
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Post Number: 349
Registered: 05-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 09:13 am: |
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On a personal level what the Black (or White) community thinks about BM/WW relationships is irrelevant - that's true.
On a professional level, however, Blacks and Whites alike may not support a Black entertainer's career for that very reason. So how Blacks and Whites personally feel about IR relationships does have an impact in the professional realm. Ask Taye Diggs. |
Abm
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Post Number: 8183
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 10:35 am: |
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There's a book that was originally published a few years ago that asserts that there were actually many BM/WW coupling in the antebellum south and that although these relationships were not the toast of town they were NOT as villified as we assume they would be. The author asserts that, ironically, it was only when Blacks were emancipated that BM/WW relationship became a pariah and that that stems less from issues of sexuality and MORE from issues of inheritance, property rights, and similar things that could directly, formally compromise the CAPITAL/MONETARY interests and power of White men.
PS: I know. It's terrible of me to present the summary of a book I've neither read nor even know the title of. Please forgive my faux scholarship. |
Tonya
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Post Number: 4324
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 08:19 pm: |
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Nels,
whether or not Black men owe Black women anything is a line of reasoning that can be argued both ways. And, as far as Blacks are concerned, dark-skinned Black men are not victims of colorism because blacks consciously seek to repress them. I think it is pure self-hate wherein dark-skinned guys undergo the most blatant abuse because it’s more acceptable to comment on a man’s appearance. Excluding those two points, however, I agree with your entire post and I wish dark-skinned Black women would start recognizing every word of it. Interracial relationships are resented in the Black community ONLY because it affects light-skinned women. Nobody was concerned with the Black man's obsession when light-skinned women were the sole beneficiaries of it. I think it’s time dark-skinned Black women realize this and see how it is they played a major part in their demise. |
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