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Renata
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 01:42 am: | 
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I've been going through a spiritual transformation of some kind for the last year.
Has anyone else been doing the same?
What's it like for you? |
Lil_ze
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yes, i realized (through MUCH study) that the BOOK OF MORMON was TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!
joseph smith was a TRUE PROPHET.
the BOOK OF MORMON is the EVIDENCE that joseph smith was a prophet of god.
the book of mormon had to come from somewhere.
it either came from the mind of a AMAZINGLY gifted teenage writer, or it came from heaven.
the church of jesus christ of latter-day day saints MUST be the TRUE church of GOD.
there are LIVING prophets amongst us.
these prophets are guided by the FATHER in heaven.
the EVIDENCE that the true church is on the planet earth is THE BOOK OF MORMON.
by the way- i believe NONE of what i just wrote.
but i will say that ANYONE who investigates the claims made by the "mormon church", will be pressed to SERIOUSLY think about what they are saying.
spiritual transformations come through the manifestation of undeniable TRUTH.
if there are any "christians" or people interested in the christian faith present on this board, i would say do a "GOOGLE" search for "the garbage eaters" or "the jim roberts group".
ive been studying professing christian groups for MANY years. and after meeting some of the members of this group (although i have not seen them in over 6 years), i am FORCED to say that they MAY be the closest group of people that have truly "forsaken ALL" for the sake of jesus christ.
spiritual transformation can be a good thing.
but remember that there are MANY FALSE prophets gone out into the world.
to me there are no issues that are as compelling as faith and race.
i could probably talk about issues of faith and or spirituality for a long time. |
Renata
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 02:20 am: |
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Boy....I was just about to blast you.....LOL...then I kept reading.
I don't particularly agree, but it's interesting.
I would never read the book of Mormon. It's a known fact that they hate blacks AS A CHURCH and consider black skin to be the mark of a curse from god. I would hardly trust anything they write.
I've become more spiritual, since I stopped being Christian. I love Jesus Christ. I just don't trust Christians. (Don't even get me started on the whole "everyone who doesn't get a baptism goes to hell" thing.....now the pope changes his mind.....so when does the pope have the authority to change something people thought was the rules of god?.....anyways......)
I mean other spiritual things as well.
I've had a situation where it seems my soul was looking for something. I was asleep and could feel my soul slip through my feet.....it tripped over my purse....and ended up somewhere else, trying to talk to someone who couldn't hear me.....like I was a ghost or something. That was weird.
Or the time I was 17 and woke up and I was about 5 inches above my bed and could see a light encircling my head....still hoping that wasn't a UFO. |
Lil_ze
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 02:58 am: |
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well, thanks for answering renata.
ive studied the "mormon church" for years.
and while it is true that the book of mormon teaches that "dark skin" is a curse.
and the church would not allow blacks to hold the priesthood until 1970-something.
one of the reason that the members of the "mormon church" were SO hated in the 1800's is because they were actually AGAINST slavery.
the lds church (mormon church) claims to be the TRUE restored church of jesus christ.
ive have actually read some parts of the book of mormon.
i feel that i would be doing myself a disservice by not actually reading a book that claims to be sent from the heavens.
when you REALLY investigate the writings of the "elders" og the mormon church, i think you may be surprised (as i was) at how much knowledge they have, and how logical some of the points they make are.
and also remember, there are OTHER groups or churches that BELIEVE in the book of mormon and that joseph smith was a prophet, but they NEVER had a ban on blacks being members or holding the priesthood (although there are many "mormon groups" that have NO connection with the large body in utah, that are VERY RACIST).
i would'y say that the lds church as a whole "hate" blacks, but i can see how people could think this (and im not saying its totally not true).
i must say though after being around them for a bit (i was actually flown to utah for FREE by the church, the owner of "jet blue" airlines is a mormon), they have VERY strong family ties and values that anyone could admire.
as far as the "anyone who does not get baptism" will go to hell.
this is FALSE doctrine.
baptism comes through the holy spirit (the word of god).
the "pope" has no more authority than any other person.
the idea is NOT to trust christians.
you should (not that im telling you what to believe) ONLY trust the word of god.
men are flawed.
as far as the pope "changing things" that people have always believed.
some groups or churches believe in "continuing revalation".
meaning the lord is continually revealing his will through CHOSEN PHOPHETS.
so the doctrines can be changed by those who have the "AUTHORITY" given by god.
actually as we are talking about these issues, i think i will go to the "mormon church" tomorrow (today), just for the hell of it.
i always like to reserve judgement about certain issues, until IVE come to my own conclusions.
i personally doubt that the book of mormon is true or the word of god, sent to earth in the latter-days as PROOF of the calling of joseph smith.
but the "mormon church" if you investigate their doctrines, does make some VERY logical points.
but lets NOT forget, there are a WHOLE bunch of other churches and groups that believe the book of mormon is true and that joseph smith was a prophet, but don't have ANY of the doctrines of the "well-known" group in utah.
good thread renata. |
Lil_ze
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 03:18 am: |
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ps- if anyone is interested you might benifit from doing a "search" for "THE GABAGE EATERS" or "THE JIM ROBERTS" group.
i see all over the EARTH people who claim to follow the words of jesus christ.
but this group actually seems to LITERALLY be following the words of christ.
meaning-"FORSAKING ALL" (selling their possesions".
"taking no thought for their lives" (living day to day).
trusting only in the word of god (relying on the father in heaven to provide). not working "regular jobs" etc.
i was in contact with them for a while and was VERY close to going with them (sure some people call them a cult, but who is to say what is or is not a cult).
while some members were in nebraska, they came across a "christian minister", and after this minister met some of the "brothers" (this is how they refer to themselves- "brothers and sisters"), he remakrked that "boy, i THOUGHT i had given up a lot for the sake of jesus christ".
but him seeing people who had actually SOLD all of there posesions, and were now walking (or hitching) across the united states, for the sakes of jesus christ, made him REALLY think about the words of christ and who was actually REALLY following them, and who was just payin "lip service".
christ said, you will either be HOT or COLD, if you are LUKEWARM, I SHALL SPEW THEE OUT OF MY MOUTH.
and im by NO means attempting to preach (we have the choice to believe what we want), but these issues are VERY interesting to me. |
Libralind2
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 01:07 pm: |
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Reading Lil_Ze's type with a raised eyebrow..and thinking..I do not want whatever it is you smoke..not that I smoke..but IF I did..that is WAY too powerful for even you so you MIGHT want to switch to drinking. I recommend Riesling wine..I can drink an entire bottle and still fuction.
LiLi..wondering why in the hail do some folks say .0008 of the shyet they do on this board |
Renata
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Still not reading the book of mormon. All churches are the new "Church of God"....if you take their word for it.
If you're interested in reading things that are claimed to be sent from heaven....you could also try reading the Bhagavad Vita, the Upanishads (try finding one in English..LOL), the Quran (said to be the LITERAL word of God as dictated to Mohammed through Jibreel), and any version of the bible.
And people giving up their possessions and becoming ascetic is hardly a Christian phenomenon....Hindus do it all the time.
I'm not Muslim, but I have been to a masjid a few times, and there is just something spectacularly beautiful about watching the people there pray in unison to the sing-songy way they say the prayers. "Bismillaaaaaaahh........Al hamdillilaaaaaaah....." I don't know what they're saying, but it sounds beautiful.
Strange thing, years ago, I dreamt that I went to a town and it was the only thing that could be heard anywhere. |
Renata
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LOL....Lili.....I know he said Africans were subhuman....now we know where he learned it.
No, I'm sure....I can't take seriously any "religious" book where the god is as racist as his creation. Sorry....LOL |
Libralind2
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Ya know..goodness..LOL
LiLi |
Renata
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Nice piece of trivia:
Jim Jones (of Jonestown infamy) was the son of a klansman.
I didn't know this until I read some book on conspiracies. It may be old news to some of the older members here. The book also claims that he had a lot of tattoos, but the body of "Jim Jones" that was found (and returned to the US for autopsy) had no tattoos. Also, the book claims that the US wouldn't bring any of the other bodies (most of the members were black, remember) back for autopsy and they basically just rotted in the sun.
I can't say if it's true or not....that's what was claimed. I just found it interesting. |
Renata
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Sorry...that should have been Bhagavad GITA, not Vita. |
Lil_ze
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renata, i NEVER said africans are sub-human.
i just NEVER said that.
and i learned NOTHING from the book of mormon, because i don't think its true.
i just don't understand why you (renata) would LIE and say i said something that i NEVER did.
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Renata
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TO ABM: I know this is weird for me to call you out like this for such a question. I have been having a dream about someone named Darrell from Chicago for almost two months now (maybe more). I have relatives and friends there, but no one knows a Darrell (or Darren). Would you happen to know one? It's weird, not because it's a dream...because it keeps coming and I don't have recurring dreams unless they mean something. In the dream, he keeps asking for help, and I keep seeing the sign on the interstate that says I'm entering Chicago. TWO MONTHS I've had this dream.
A couple of months ago, I kept having a dream about someone named Michael who I felt was sorry about something, but he wouldn't say why. In the dream, I could FEEL him apologize, but he didn't say it. When I ASKED, he would say "well, if I SAY I'm sorry, it's like admitting I did something wrong." I told a friend about it, and it turned out that he had an uncle named Michael who had molested him as a child but that he had died years ago.
To Lil ze.....I don't have time to look for it.....but I'm sure you did.... but in the RECENT past, you did call them ugly and primitive.......
anyways........
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Renata
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After I told my friend about that dream....I never dreamed of "Michael" again. |
Tonya
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Whoa!! Maybe Darrell molested ABM! (Tonya: Getting popcorn!) |
Jackie
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From Lil_ze:Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 11:40 pm:
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im pretty sure this poster is just trying to get a "rise" out of the people on this board.
i don't want to play into it, but what the hell.
the "dark races" who dwell in the land of africa are on the LOWEST LEVEL of civilization on the planet earth. the africans are FULL of diseases. agree or not the TRUTH is the africans are some of the DUMBEST, UGLIEST, MOST SAVAGE, PRIMATIVE, humans (lol) on the planet earth.
like it or not, believe it or not, the REASON america is SO powerful, is because the black american built this country, and through the intellect, inventions, blood, sweat and tears, made america the power that it is.
who are the strongest boxers on earth? is it the effeminate africans? no. its the "black american" male.
who invented the light bulb filament? who invented the traffic light? who performed the FIRST open heart surgery? who did the first blood transfusion? who designed washington d.c.?
has anyone ever read 1000 black inventions?
the africans (the eternal enemy of the "black american, west indian etc), are a FILTHY GROUP of statue worsipping, face cutting, blood drinking, smelly, non-bathing, UGLY, PRIMATIVE, nothings.
notice that all of these proud africans who have some thing to say about black americans, are all here (in america).
lets be honest, has ANYONE on this board ever seen an attractive african (male or female)? and im not talking about 1 out of 10 million aficans. most africans are straight up ugly. not to mention that they are DIRTY, and DO NOT BATHE.
i knoe the person who strated this thread is just a troll.
but the REALITY is that the BLACK AMERICANS (west indians etc) are FAR SUPERIOR, than the africans could ever hope to be.
the "dark races" in the land of africa (with the exception of our people who went to places like nigeria etc) are the MOST (except for the "white race") savage, base, disgusting, vile "humans to walk the face of the earth. |
Jackie
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From Lil_ze: Posted on Sunday, January 14, 2007 - 01:26 am:
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well, i'll say it again.
I NEVER SAID I WAS DOMINICAN.
i challenge you to quote me stating that i was dominican.
i NEVER did. and you cannot PROVE that i did.
secondly, i already stated that my great great grand father was a blackman from the bahamas.
so what the hell are you talking about?
just in cases you don't know, THERE ARE BLACK PEOPLE IN CUBA.
I AM A DESCENDANT OF SLAVES ALSO. stupid-ass.
yes, MOST of our nation was carried away from the land mass that is CALLED africa, but that does not mean we are the same as the dark races that dwell in the land of africa.
ive gone over this TIME AND TIME AND TIME again, and you still don't get it.
there is NOT one racial group on the continent of africa.
there are atleast 5 DIFFERENT racial groups that dwell on that continent.
all of these DIFFERENT RACES HAVE DARK SKIN.
the ETHIOPIANS are CLEARLY a DIFFERENT racial group then the people of say NIGERIA or SOUTH AFRICA. yet they BOTH dwell on the same land mass and have DARK SKIN.
EITHER YOU GET IT OR YOU DON'T.
if you want to walk in utter darkness as far as your identity goes, that is your right.
but i KNOW the truth.
and by the way the dark nations that dwell in africa, DO NOT LOOK JUST LIKE OUR PEOPLE.
they dark nations in africa (with the exception of our people in LIBERIA) look NOTHING like us.
and even if some of them do look similar to us, it means NOTHING.
THE CHINESE AND THE JAPANESE LOOK SIMILAR, BUT THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT RACIAL GROUPS.
think or believe what you want.
there is NO self hate on my part. because the dark races in africa are not me.
i have the understanding that the black people who were brought to the new world as slaves are a distinct and SPECIAL people.
i don't have to look to the africans to have pride in my people or who i am.
all i have to do is look at our beautiful people to see the evidence of how special and unique our people are.
boy, oh boy, EVEN THE WHITE MAN KNOWS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR PEOPLE AND THE DARK NATIONS IN AFRICA.
our people knows INSTANTLY when they see a NATIVE of the land of africa.
in our hearts we know dam well they are NOT OUR PEOPLE.
they don't look like us, they have none of the traights we have as a people, they are not us.
there is a documentary called "mondo magic", where the filmmakers go in to the land of AFRICA to capture the people who dwell there.
they are some of the MOST PRIMATIVE, VILE, BASE DISGUSTING "humans" on the planet earth.
like i said you can believe whatever you like regarding the history of our NATION.
i will do the same.
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Jackie
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From Lil_ze:Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 02:21 am:
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well, jackie actually i DON'T really give a dam about the africans.
the focus of my post was not so much on whether or not the boys of south africa can go to a private school or not, but was rather a general observation about this fat LESBIAN named oprah winfrey, and her utter CONTEMPT for ALL males.
anytime i see males (of any nation) being pushed aside or marginalized (especially by a man hating DYKE), i feel the need to say something about it.
but you are correct in asking me what do i care about africans anyway.
because actually i couldn't care less about less about the africans.
but oprah winfrey's overt contempt for males, is just disturbing. |
Jackie
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From Lil_ze: Posted on Sunday, January 14, 2007 - 12:45 am:
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my question is-
WHY WOULD ANY OF OUR PEOPLE BE CONCERNED WITH THE THOUGHT AND/OR ACTIONS OF ANY AFRICANS?
they are not even worth the thought.
the WHOLE of africa and most of the "people" in it, don't amount to "a drop that falleth from a vessel".
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Renata
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But somehow, black people should now care what the MORMONS think and write?
Goodness. LOL
Why am I getting the idea more and more that Lil has a shaved head with a tattoo on the side of it and that he hangs out at rock concerts handing out "literature"? |
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From Lil_ze:Posted on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 10:48 pm:
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the reason that africa is generally in the condition it is in is because of the "base" nature of the inhabitants of that land mass.
south africa has the highest child rape instances on the planet earth. is this the work of the "white man"?
hell no. the black african men are raping girls of 4,5,6 on a regular basis.
africa has the highest AIDS rate on the planet earth. is this the work of the "white man"?
hell no. many, many black african men are involved in homosexual sex acts. they then return home to their "wife (wives)", give her the disease, and she inturn spreads it to her children.
africa has the highest number of tribal and civil wars on the planet. is this the fault of colonialism or the "white man".
hell no. the dark races in the land of africa are very violent and blood-thirsty. they take a great deal of pride in chopping of the body parts of other "tribes".
africa has extremely high levels of poverty continent wide.
this is because the resources of these nations have been stolen by a handful of their greedy "leaders". the heads of some of these african nations have hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars stored in european banks.
the white man is not the reason africa is the HELL that it is. the africans are inept and primative overall.
it always kills me when i see one of these ugly africans overhere in america, with his chest out and his nose in the air, looking down at our people like we are a bunch of ignorant "niggers".
overall africa is on the lowest level of civilazation on the planet earth.
when you read about the "great" people of africa and their accomplisments throughout history. those were OUR people who were dwelling on the land mass of africa.
the true inhabitantes of africa are very primative. take one look at the state the continent of africa is in for proof of this.
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Jackie
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Renata: Why am I getting the idea more and more that Lil has a shaved head with a tattoo on the side of it and that he hangs out at rock concerts handing out "literature"?
Are you kidding ? He's been typing content like this for almost a year now. |
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