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Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4227 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: Votes: 4 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 12:02 am: |
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Black Americans try to claim that KATHLEEN CLEAVER is a Black woman. I think of Danzy Senna's "essay" about how she and people like her (people who look WHITE) have "chosen" to be black and that they should be accepted into the Black Race---because they choose it. And this always makes me think of the "system of American slavery" -----the HATRED for Black flesh, African hair, Full noses, full lips---the HATRED for the NEGRO and for AFRICA.....and then ...I think again of Danzy Senna and so many others who FEEL the way they do (and do so without any consideration of where black people originated from or what those people thought of themselves BEFORE they were slaves).....and it just comes down to the SLAVE OFFSPRING (Danzy Senna)carrying on the "disrespect" for BLACK PEOPLE'S PERSONHOOD, their HUMANITY. Danzy Senna She and all of us have been TRAINED to believe that "just anybody" can be a Black person---BLACK RACE is so inferior to WHITE or ASIAN or INDIAN. Danzy Senna would NOT DARE call Cicely Tyson a "dark skinned white woman" or try to pin such a remark on Tyson's 1 Drop of White Blood---but she and all of us are "thoughtless" in our Blatant lack of respect for the HUMANITY of Black people. We hate black people so much---that we will EMBRACE a white person like Mariah Carey in their place, as them, honoring them with their identity. THE SHIT IS WRONG. YOUR SLAVE MASTER LIED. NOT EVERYTHING THAT RUBS AGAINST BLACK ---IS DEFILED AND OWNED BY IT. THE SHIT IS WRONG. Black People....are HUMAN BEINGS and they have an identity just like WHITE PEOPLE do. We should STOP being like White People and thinking so little of Black People that just anybody can be them. MIXED RACE people, BIRACIAL people, MULTI-RACE people----that's not my race.
STOP disrespecting BLACK WOMEN
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Brownbeauty123 Veteran Poster Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 1593 Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 12:15 am: |
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Nicole Richie, also identifies as Black, even though both of her biological parents are White cubans. |
Misty Veteran Poster Username: Misty
Post Number: 633 Registered: 02-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 12:21 am: |
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i heard that one of her parents was part black |
Renata Veteran Poster Username: Renata
Post Number: 1759 Registered: 08-2005
Rating: Votes: 2 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 12:33 am: |
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It's not going to stop anytime soon.....Why be just another white woman, when you can be a white "black" woman and be queen? |
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 8015 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 12:35 am: |
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Renata, Yep... |
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 8016 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 12:39 am: |
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Btw: I read Katherine's husband Eldridge's Soul On Ice. Basically, the book largely centers on Eldridge's fantasies about loving and/or raping White women. (Brothaman had him some PROBLEMS.) So it don't surprise me that he'd marry someone who looked like Katherine. |
Renata Veteran Poster Username: Renata
Post Number: 1761 Registered: 08-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 12:44 am: |
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LOL...oooh, that IS FREAKY PSYCHOTIC. LOL |
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 8017 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 12:52 am: |
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I meant Kathleen, not Katherine. |
Renata Veteran Poster Username: Renata
Post Number: 1762 Registered: 08-2005
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 12:57 am: |
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I dated a Jewish guy when I was a teenager. He was actually half white/half jewish. One thing his white mother reminded him: He is NOT white and don't expect to be accepted as such. And this was a guy who you wouldn't know was Jewish unless he told you. At least until age 19, he had never spoken to his white grandparents. But we knew SOMETHING was up with him...there were two schools in town, the black school, and the white school (it was like this into the 90's and most MS schools are STILL segregated), and he was the only non-black student at the black school. He STILL hates white people today. I used to get embarrassed going to parties with him and hearing him explain how Jewish he was....I don't why, I just was. I just brought that up to point out that no matter how much you look like them, and how much white blood you have, if you have ANYTHING other than white blood (even a 90/10 mix) you won't be accepted by them. Well....why do we feel such a need to accept these not only AS us, but in many cases, as BETTER than us? |
Renata Veteran Poster Username: Renata
Post Number: 1763 Registered: 08-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 01:13 am: |
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I do wonder if he had a white FATHER (and hence wasn't tagged with that last name) if he would have just passed as white? |
Lil_ze Veteran Poster Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 687 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 03:36 am: |
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first of all, how is it "BLACK AMERICANS" trying to claim kathleen cleaver is a black woman? has someone taken a poll of EVER black american to find out if they think this female is a "black woman"? second of all- THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "BLACK RACE". this is TOTAL non-sense. third- mariah carey IS BLACK. her father is a BLACKMAN fron venezuela. kola boof, you can run your mouth ALL YOU WANT. but some AFRICAN cannot dictate tom our people who is one of us and who is not. you KOLA BOOF, are not one of us. your racial group are a bunch of ugly africans and arabs (if we even belive that you have some arab blood). i don't understand why you are SO DAM focused on our people? are there not many african/arab forums that you could lend your "wisdom" to? why the HELL are you here ? are you THAT ashamed of who you REALLY are. because you are NOT one of us. and you NEVER will be. |
Lil_ze Veteran Poster Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 688 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 03:38 am: |
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i meant has someone taken a poll af EVERY black american? |
Lil_ze Veteran Poster Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 689 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 03:46 am: |
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nicole richie, has a biological PUERTO RICAN father. her parents are NOT white cubans. nicole richie's father is the cousin of SHELIA E, the drummer for pricce for a while. SHELIA E was the person who recorded the song "a glamourous life" nicole richie is a puerto rican girl. and as we know many puerto ricans have black blood (whether they admit it or not). you can look at shelia e and easily see that she has black blood, as does her cousin NICOLE RICHIE. who the hell gave ANY AFRICAN the authority to dictate who is black and who is not?
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Toubobie Regular Poster Username: Toubobie
Post Number: 228 Registered: 08-2005
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 04:09 am: |
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First, these demons come through the door, infiltrate the race, THEN they call the shots, setting the BLACK standard. Never EVER trust redbones, especially the females. They DEGRADE our RACIAL integrity. Ms. Senna, like many half breeds, is obsessed with notions of "passing" and acceptance. Beige folk ought to proclaim their own race of degenerates. But then that would be no fun. Their sick egos couldn't stand even the notion of being average.... they NEED to be worshiped. These bitches honestly believe they would make the race better by their subhuman Nordic stock? As if THAT is AT ALL desirable to those of us, AFRICANS and BLACKS, who highly esteem our melanin, our BLACKness, our unique connection with the earth and beyond.... It's downright insulting. HELL NO we don't want that up in here! They are NOT welcome. Eldridge and the like embrace these kinds of women because they are sick in the head. 'Soul on ice' is a closet homo maniac's manifesto. |
Dahomeyahosi Regular Poster Username: Dahomeyahosi
Post Number: 157 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 07:35 am: |
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Kola I feel like the definition of "black" in this country is changing. Since I teach in the northeast I notice that there are many students who are either Dominican or Puerto Rican who are not considered to be black but rather latino or multi-racial by both themselves and others. This is in spite of the fact that some have black ancestry. When one-droppists see them they have to reconsider the validity of the American definition. Many multi-racials are themselves lobbying to be considered as who they are hence the new census groupings of 2000. Because they have access to a lot of land, money, and other treaty entitlements, all American Indians are expected to be enrolled and must have a certain blood quantum (usually 1/4) but in limited cases anything goes. Of course anyone can claim to be Indian but I always ask to see the card that has the blood quantum on it. If black Americans were ever actually given reparations I assume they'd be required to prove ancestry as well and I wouldn't be surprised if many "black" Americans didn't fit a 1/4 quantum. People say that Mariah Carey is half black but they are implying her father is 100% black and that is quite unlikely. I think the reason why black Americans accept these people is because they have little pride and therefore little reason to be exclusive. Instead they actually think it's an honor for them that these people would want to join the club.
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Urban_scribe AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Urban_scribe
Post Number: 314 Registered: 05-2006
Rating: Votes: 3 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 08:56 am: |
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Once again we have Africans dictating what Black Americans are and are not. Once again we have some with a personal litmus for determining who is and isn't Black, yet haven't a shred of concrete authority to render such determinations beyond individual opinion. New Year - same old tricks. Pardon me while I go laugh my ass off.... |
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4233 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: Votes: 4 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 09:12 am: |
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Urban_scribe: Once again we have Africans dictating what Black Americans are and are not. Kola: Why shouldn't they? Aren't they the BIOLOGICAL PARENTS of the Black American? YES, we are. Whether you like it or not --whether WE like it or not. It's a BIOLOGICAL FACT that we are the Parents of the AAs. So yes--we are the Mother who will be called to identify the body. And #2----why should the WHITE SLAVE MASTER "dictate" and "define" what Black Americans are, because THAT'S WHO does the defining. You think we don't have the right to come to this country and tell our own flesh and blood children that they've been lied to?? You aren't even Black. Your sons are dating "mixed coloreds" from an outside culture-race. Where did you say they were from? Yet and still, you think that YOU should be the one to help keep your White Slave Master's bullshit in place. Black People should not be disrespected! Urban_scribe: Once again we have some with a personal litmus for determining who is and isn't Black, yet haven't a shred of concrete authority to render such determinations beyond individual opinion. KOLA: And who has "concrete authority"---your WHITE SLAVE MASTER? Dahomeyahosi, Touboubie and I are African and Black-daughter of Africa women, who but us has the most CONCRETE AUTHORITY to identify our own children? You have no genetic power to re-produce our race, Urban_scribe. You're too mixed. So why in the hell would we leave you to rule over us? Yes--try to PRETEND--that you're laughing your ass off. Because we African women are going to wake something up inside of Black American women....that will never be sleep again. You don't represent OUR DAUGHTERS. You've always been a "Cyphon". Always.
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Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4234 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 09:22 am: |
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Dahomeyahosi: Kola I feel like the definition of "black" in this country is changing. Kola: I agree. These Non-Blacks are not going to rule over our sweet black children any longer--that's for sure!
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Renata Veteran Poster Username: Renata
Post Number: 1770 Registered: 08-2005
Rating: Votes: 2 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 01:30 pm: |
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LOLOLOL........ I don't see why we SHOULDN'T take the Africans word for what BLACK people are.... WE TAKE WHITE PEOPLE'S WORD FOR IT! LOL..... AND ANOTHER THING...... Many BLACK people with two noticeably black parents are now calling themselves BI-RACIAL. It seems these days that white people like Mariah Carey want to be black....because they know dumb niggers will put her on TOP and ABOVE other black people.......while people who have no white blood will say they're MIXED so they can be CONCEIVED to be above black people. Get that people? The "new blacks" will look like Nicole Richie.....while the black skinned are claiming more and more that they're bi-racial. (And white people will always look the same.....because they're smart enough to ONLY ACCEPT PURE BLOODS.....anyone else, "let the niggers have them".) |
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4237 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: Votes: 3 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 02:02 pm: |
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Not only that Renata, but the WHITES "favoritism" towards foreign Blacks ...stems directly from the fact that we don't go for this niggerish ONE DROPIST bullshit. They know they're meeting the TRUE BLACK RACE when they encounter foreign blacks----and they respect that. WHICH EXACTLY WHY...AAs need to adopt a standard and cut out the PLANTATION rules. Get some self-respect and BE BLACK and stop trying to dress up Mulatto/Octoroons as your "representatives".
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Yukio Veteran Poster Username: Yukio
Post Number: 1639 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 02:46 pm: |
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If race doesn't exist, as you sporadically claim, then why use the word race in this thread, Kola? What you want to talk about is color not race....so get to it...honestly...LOL! I brought up Kathleen Cleaver, and as you know, not to speak about aesthetic or our humanity but to compare her to Clarence Thomas and Condoleeza Rice. |
Brownbeauty123 Veteran Poster Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 1597 Registered: 03-2006
Rating: Votes: 3 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 03:02 pm: |
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"They know they're meeting the TRUE BLACK RACE when they encounter foreign blacks----and they respect that." didn't you agree with the statement that there is 'no such thing as race'? |
Renata Veteran Poster Username: Renata
Post Number: 1777 Registered: 08-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 03:30 pm: |
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I have noticed in Atlanta.....that Blacks go to church alone, Hispanics go to church alone, and Ethiopians go to the white church. People who don't want any black AMERICANS in their church, don't mind Africans in their church.......I've found that odd. |
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4241 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 03:33 pm: |
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NO YUKIO--- you brought up Kathleen Cleaver with the question---WHO OF US WILL DECIDE WHO IS MULATTO, OCTORROON AND BLACK-- and you presented Ex-Panther Kathleen Cleaver, a woman who BENEFITS from the Spoils of "racist colorism"....because you claimed that her ACTIONS/FEELINGS/BELIEFS justified her being considered a "black woman". She's never done shit for black women and little girls....but TAKE ADVANTAGE of the White Supremacist structure that allowed her to STEAL the identity of black women --to stand in their place and claim their experience, TO HELP RENDER THEM INVISIBLE when the fact is, there's no way she can represent them---she's not "black". Her experience...is the experience of a mixed race person. Her BLOOD...is mixed.
And what does getting rid of the word "race" do? How does that benefit my BLACK sons --to do away with the word "race"? Aren't you the same people who embraced INTEGRATION, "assimilation", the One Drop Rule and now you want me to go around claiming that I'm a motherless child who has no race?
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Renata Veteran Poster Username: Renata
Post Number: 1778 Registered: 08-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 03:39 pm: |
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But, it could also be another means of separation: make the African believe their superior because they're not slave stock, make the Black Americans believe their superior because of their white blood. Remember: Mary McLeod Bethune was a missionary.....who was allowed by the US government to go anywhere in the world EXCEPT Africa. Why were they trying to keep her apart from them? So basically, she could befriend anyone in the world...but those she looked most like. |
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4243 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 03:44 pm: |
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This is old news here: make the African believe their superior because they're not slave stock, make the Black Americans believe their superior because of their white blood. That's EXACTLY what they do. And they don't want Africans like me bonding and "influencing" Black Americans, because if you listen to your real mother for too long----it will become impossible to control you. When "Black Americans" find Africa, you find your true self.
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Renata Veteran Poster Username: Renata
Post Number: 1779 Registered: 08-2005
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 03:45 pm: |
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For the sake of argument, Yukio, (I'm assuming that you're at least yellow or darker) decide that since you're not racist and people can claim any race they want, decide to be white for a month. Or Chinese. Or even Pakistani. And Kola, yeah, I can see this "black" woman telling people "what racism? I'm a black woman and white people never bother me." And her words, her experience, are passed on as "truth". |
Urban_scribe AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Urban_scribe
Post Number: 315 Registered: 05-2006
Rating: Votes: 3 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 04:09 pm: |
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Kola, Africans HAVE NOT been the biological parents of Black Americans, Black Caribbeans, and Black Europeans in over 400 YEARS. Hellooooo, Slave Trade. Remember? So except in instances like Barack Obama, who actually has an African parent, Africa claiming to be the biological parents of all Blacks is a moot, if not asinine, point. At best, Africans are the biological great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents of Black Americans. The vast majority of today's Black Americans would have to trace their family trees back 200 - 300 years to locate an AFRICAN ancestor. So please, spare ME the BS about Mother Africa. Second, Kola, anyone with an IQ above room temperature knows that you wouldn't give two sh!ts about who is or isn't Black, or any Black causes for that matter, had you been born looking more like your WHITE ARABIC father than your BLACK SUDANESE(?)* mother. Your ranting and raving stem from your PERSONAL feelings of being rejected by your own WHITE flesh and blood. It tickles me every time you, considering your mixed background, launch into these tirades about what constitutes Blackness. I wonder what that baby you aborted by your White lover would have looked like, since we know it would have been a quadroon. Let's consider the source and call a duck a duck, shall we? Fact is, Kola, you're as mixed as I am. It just shows more on me than it does on you. However, any biologist, geneticist or anthropologist will tell you that skin color, in and of itself, is NEVER an accurate measure for determining race. In fact, they all will tell you that race is a social construct and has no scientific basis. Something tells me you know these FACTS, Kola. But since your dark skin (which isn't very dark by the way) is the ONLY card you've got to play, you milk it for all it's worth. Anyhowway, Happy Sunday! I'm going to fix me another helping of the Black American soul food I whipped up this morning. Ciao! *(That question mark by the way is no disrespect to your mother. I wouldn't dare offend you (or anyone) by attacking your deceased parents. But I'm not certain if you said she was Sudanese or Somalian). |
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4247 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 04:43 pm: |
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Urban_scribe: Second, Kola, anyone with an IQ above room temperature knows that you wouldn't give two sh!ts about who is or isn't Black, or any Black causes for that matter, had you been born looking more like your WHITE ARABIC father than
KOLA: I believe you're right---if I had been born looking like a Non-Black person, I would have been raised to see myself differently and I would think differently and I would not be who I am today. You're right. But the FACT IS....I wasn't born that way. I came out Black, and therefore, I am representing for the BLACKS, and especially since---unlike you---I've actually experienced what it is to be black. Urban_Scribe: It tickles me every time you, considering your mixed background, launch into these tirades about what constitutes Blackness. I wonder what that baby you aborted by your White lover would have looked like, since we know it would have been a quadroon. KOLA: LOLLOLLLL!!!!!! That's so true girl! Gimme FIVE!!!!! Shit, I can't deny it. Urban_scribe: Fact is, Kola, you're as mixed as I am. It just shows more on me than it does on you. However, any biologist, geneticist or anthropolist KOLA: Yeah...but the people of Africa would consider me to be "BLACK"---and not you. So that's all that matters, because you see---we have STANDARDS. We're not niggers. Our standard is that to be black...you have to LOOK black. This also used to be...YOUR STANDARD before you were a slave. That's what keeps us from mating EXCLUSIVELY with WHITES as so many AAs do----the fact that we don't want to lose our identity. More African men will take a "white mistress" and have a BLACK WIFE than the reverse. They will be sure to produce BLACK babies ---because Black children are human beings, they are precious and beautiful and they deserve to be born. Through black babies--we live forever. That's why I give you credit URBAN for mating with a Black man. You might be a Taco Flake but you brought the "family" back into your bloodline...and as your mother, that's what I want you to do. Breed OUR people into power and stop with all this mixing that's killing us off. So you did good and that's why I like you. But I hope your sons will make some black babies and take care and raise them. Don't breed the Black race out of existence. That's what niggers do.
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Lil_ze Veteran Poster Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 690 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 06:07 pm: |
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are we REALLY having discussion about how a bunch of ugly, primative africans view black americans? the WORLD knows that the natives of the land of africa are the MOST primative people on the planet earth. so what they think or feel about black americans is MEANINGLESS. you ugly, jealous ass africans should get it through your UGLY primative heads, BLACK AMERICANS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU OR WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT US. why should we?
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Yukio Veteran Poster Username: Yukio
Post Number: 1642 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 07:41 pm: |
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Kola: so you are telling ME why I brought someone into conversation...LOL! There IS room for interpretation, but here is what I wrote: interesting...and how do we determine who are octoroons, mulatto, etc...what about those same folk, who look like Kathleen Cleaver, who are more "black" in spirit and deed than our "black" sista Condoleeza Rice, and brutha Mr. Misognist Clarence Thomas? the point WAS: Color or Work? Color or Committment? |
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4249 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 09:20 pm: |
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YUKIO---you're saying that "work" and "committment" replace the HUMAN REALITY of Black skin? You're fulla shit. BLACKNESS is not some "intangible" invisible spirit, YUKIO...it is a genetic and very TANGIBLE reality for the races of Human Beings who originate from Africa. It is not a "CONCEPT"--it is not a RELIGION--it is a Physiological reality. You have NO RESPECT for us or for our humanity when you claim that work and committment can equate with OUR REALITY of living in a black skin with nappy hair and Africoid features. Fu.ck Kathleen Cleaver and Fu.ck YOU TOO! You really do more good for the WHITE PEOPLE than for our people. I wouldn't give a damn if Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Angela Davis and Bill Clinton ALL strolled up on this board to claim that Kathleen Cleaver is a "BLACK WOMAN" ------SHE AIN'T.
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Libralind2 Regular Poster Username: Libralind2
Post Number: 480 Registered: 09-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 09:43 pm: |
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I feel so sad. LiLi |
Mzuri "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 3104 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 10:59 pm: |
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Kola Spoof You ain't nobody's Damn Mother Except for your Babydaddies Illegitimate Offsprings Why don't you take your authentic Mixie Bi-racial Half-breed Mulatto rants and shove them. Because we all know that You Aren't Really BLACK!!! And nothing you post is going to change that!!! Stop sniffin the glue, Kola.
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Nels Veteran Poster Username: Nels
Post Number: 696 Registered: 07-2005
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 02:05 am: |
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Kola -- "It's a BIOLOGICAL FACT that we are the Parents of the AAs." Are you "out" of your mind? |
Yukio Veteran Poster Username: Yukio
Post Number: 1650 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 02:27 am: |
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This is a continuation of our previous engagement on another thread... regarding black humanity: That black people are human, imperfect, and beautiful is something I take for granted. Black aesthestics, as varied as it is, is beautiful. And, no, someone that looks like Kathleen Cleaver, should not represent the black aesthetic.... But is that what I am talkin about? No, I am talkin about work... again, and if we return to jim and jane crow, and the black power movement, and the panthers in particular...we are not talking about power based on affirming the darkest of people...it was based on obtaining political, economic, and cultural power for black people and poor people...the panther party came out of, at the end of the day, a marxist position....and again, in their day, and as I see it presently, blackness included a spectrum of colors of people...this doesn't preclude colorism....but whether you're a light nigga or a dark nigga, you were still a nigga, and this is my point....your focus on color, while significant, loses it explanation power if you don't take the assumption of race and racism seriously; jim crow laws and de facto jane crow weren't about color, it was black peopl not dark skinned people exclude and fair and the octoroons welcome!
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Renata Veteran Poster Username: Renata
Post Number: 1799 Registered: 08-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 01:36 pm: |
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Well, Thanks Yukio....that actually makes sense and, in a way, I somewhat agree. |
Grind Regular Poster Username: Grind
Post Number: 165 Registered: 04-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 05:08 pm: |
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"BLACKNESS is not some "intangible" invisible spirit, YUKIO...it is a genetic and very TANGIBLE reality for the races of Human Beings who originate from Africa." But Kola, if unmixed black Africans accept half Arabs as "their own," doesn't that ultimately dilute their genetic identity? I have found that many mixed race Africans, though they may call themselves "black," often hold very low opinions of REAL UNMIXED blacks, and think of themselves as being quite distinct from them. And you know this. There's no more unity between dark mulattoes and unmixed blacks in Africa than there is between light mulattoes and unmixed blacks in Haiti. Witness the conflict in Sudan. The fact that they all fall into arbtitrary phenotypic range called "black" means shit.
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