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Chrishayden AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 3357 Registered: 03-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 01:31 pm: |
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The Washington Times www.washingtontimes.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hillary's status as front-runner slipping in key states By Donald Lambro THE WASHINGTON TIMES Published January 11, 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Advertisement Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's popularity in Democratic presidential-preference polls has fallen in the nation's first caucus and primary states in the face of increasing support for her chief rivals for the 2008 nomination. Pollsters said her weaknesses in Iowa and New Hampshire were the result of the growing popularity of two major opponents -- former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards and Illinois Sen. Barack Obama -- and their populist economic messages, as well as a deepening antipathy toward her among Democratic-leaning independents who dislike her support for the war in Iraq and who question her electability. "I think Hillary strikes these voters the same way Senator John Kerry did in 2004. They would really like to vote for someone they really like this time. Hillary doesn't fit that characterization right now," said pollster Del Ali of Research 2000, who conducted polls in both Iowa and New Hampshire. His findings mirror more recent polling showing a similar national decline in support. "There's been erosion," said pollster John Zogby. "She's polling in the low- to mid-40s nationally." The New York Democrat, who has been her party's clear front-runner, came in a distant fourth in an Iowa presidential poll of 600 likely voters conducted Dec. 18 to 20, drawing 10 percent in a crowded field of contenders. Mr. Edwards, the Democrats' 2004 vice-presidential nominee, and Mr. Obama were tied in first place with 22 percent each, followed by outgoing Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack with 12 percent. In New Hampshire, whose first-in-the-nation primary follows the Iowa caucuses, polls showed Mrs. Clinton in a dead heat with Mr. Obama, who was greeted like a rock star in a whirlwind of standing-room-only appearances across the state last month and has since seen his political support skyrocket nationally. Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama drew 22 percent and 21 percent respectively late last month, while Mr. Edwards took third place with 16 percent. One month before, Mr. Obama was trailing Mrs. Clinton by 23 points. Mr. Ali, who interviewed 600 likely voters in New Hampshire, said its electorate was made up of "a lot of independents. These are the same people who loathe [President] Bush, loathe the Iraq war. But deep down, they don't like Hillary Clinton," he told the Concord Monitor. In a telephone interview with The Washington Times, he said, "Her chief rivals are very much against the Iraq war and prefer that we begin withdrawal. I don't think they trust her, to be honest with you. "Part of the reason is that among the candidates, she seems the most supportive of the war in Iraq and appears less critical of President Bush than the other candidates," he said. Mrs. Clinton, who is reportedly planning to announce her 2008 candidacy sometime this month, has yet to campaign in New Hampshire. Democrats in the state say they expect her approval numbers to improve once she begins active campaigning. "You cannot underestimate Senator Clinton. She has a unique attribute no one else has. She is extremely well-known, has a very good war chest, the ability to raise a lot of money and has a great spouse, Bill Clinton, who will be supporting her," said Jim Demers, a veteran party strategist in the state. However, Mr. Demers, who intends to support Mr. Obama if he decides to run, said most of the party's activists were "uncommitted and waiting for Senator Clinton to come in before they start making up their minds." Copyright © 2007 News World Communications, Inc. All rights reserved. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 3843 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 01:32 pm: |
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This whole election is slipping away from the Democrats and we haven't even seen the primaries yet.
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Chrishayden AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 3358 Registered: 03-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 03:16 pm: |
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If this war is still raging when the election is decided and it looks like the US will be fighting in several places, she does not have a chance to be elected. Further, I don't see any Democrats who could probably win under those circumstances. But, considering what one party does when it has all the branches of government, is that a bad thing? |
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 6650 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 03:30 pm: |
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Hillary may have a shot at the vice-presidency along with Obama. I don't think that either of them is electable. John Edwards with his all-American good looks and steely toughness and his plus-sized, breast cancer-survivor wife is, to me, the front runner. |
Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 1491 Registered: 10-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 03:38 pm: |
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Hmmmmmmm.........What about the Republicans? Any serious contenders? Anyone who is electable in 2008? |
Chrishayden AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 3360 Registered: 03-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 03:44 pm: |
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Barring something we don't know about now, McCain is the man, especially if the war is raging--God help us all. |
Chrishayden AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 3361 Registered: 03-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 03:45 pm: |
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If Bill dropped dead she would be a shoo in--widow's sympathy and all that plus she wouldn't have his treacherous ass around |
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 7722 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 07:45 am: |
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Chris, You've presented quite a dilemna here: Cost - Hillary being elected president. Benefit - Bill dropping dead. |
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 6663 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 11:25 am: |
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Why do you want to impede history being made, chrishayden? If Hillary became the first female president, it would be the first time that the "first lady" was a man. |
Mzuri "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 2928 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 11:36 am: |
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Sorry CH - McCain is NOT the man. For a number of reasons. That stepford wife of his being a major reason. Plus he has all that POW baggage and he is no longer in his prime. The man is in his seventies (no offense Cynique) and with our culture of juvenescence, the people simply won't vote him into office. Besides all of that - it's much too early to make these predictions. |
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 6667 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 12:13 pm: |
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Well, Mzuri, sometimes the country likes a grandfatherly figure at the helm. This was the case with Eisenhower who was also a miltary man and who, although he was little more than a figurehead, gave the impression of the wisdom and stability people like to see in their leaders. But - maybe times have changed. |
Chrishayden AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 3366 Registered: 03-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 12:25 pm: |
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Mzuri don't remember Ronald Reagan I guess. |
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 3926 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 01:40 pm: |
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Mzuri "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 2932 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 01:48 pm: |
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Have y'all seen McCain lately? His right eye is eating his left one. Plus he's a little too close to POTUS. LOLOL!!!
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Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 3933 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 02:02 pm: |
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I'm actually voting for Hillary Clinton, but I wanted to post that magazine funny for Chris Hayden
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