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Abm
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Posted on Monday, January 08, 2007 - 05:05 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This would seem a most timely thread to start right about now.



2087-2524299.html,http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2524299.html

December 31, 2006


Office queen bees hold back women’s careers
Roger Dobson and Will Iredale

FORGET "jobs for the boys". Women bosses are significantly more likely than men to discriminate against female employees, research has suggested.

The study found that when presented with applications for promotion, women were more likely than men to assess the female candidate as less qualified than the male one.

They were also prone to mark down women’s prospects for promotion and to assess them as more controlling than men in their management style.

The findings, based on experiments carried out among more than 700 people, suggest that the "queen bee syndrome" of female rivalry in the workplace may sometimes be as important as sexism in holding back women’s careers.

"Female and older participants showed more prejudice against the (idea of a) female leader than did male and younger participants," said Rocio Garcia-Retamero, a psychologist at the Max Planck Institute for Human Development in Berlin and lead author of the report.

Garcia-Retamaro said the findings showed that many people adopted a stereotypical view that leadership was a masculine notion. "(This) leads to a bias against a female candidate’s promotion to a leadership post," she said.

Nicola Horlick, the City financier nicknamed "Superwoman" for combining a demanding job with a large family, said some women looked on other women as a threat and preferred to surround themselves with men.

"It is called the ‘queen bee syndrome’," she said. "I have seen women in managerial positions discriminating against other women, possibly because they like to be the only female manager or woman in the workplace."

Recent cases that have illustrated this problem include that of Helen Green, 36, a Deutsche Bank employee from London. In August she was awarded nearly £800,000 in damages after two years of bullying by four female colleagues that eventually led to a nervous breakdown.

The research, carried out by Garcia-Retamaro and her colleague Ester Lopez-Zafra, has just been published in the journal Sex Roles.

They used 705 participants living in southern Spain to evaluate the credentials of a male and female employee of a make-believe corporation who were proposed for promotion to a managerial position as a production supervisor.

After reading a description of the role and company, the participants were told to read each potential leader’s CV and imagine their characteristics and likely success by evaluating them on several issues related to the job.

This included looking at the likelihood that the candidate would receive an increase in salary, whether they had the right skills and if they would win the acceptance of colleagues. They also assessed how likely they might be to receive promotion and were asked to take into account stereotypical traits of men and women such as sensitivity or aggression.

The study says: "Female participants had a stronger tendency than male participants to view the female candidates as less qualified than the male candidate . . . they also thought that the female candidate would fare worse in the future in her job than the male candidate."

It adds: "Female participants predicted that the male candidate would show a more laissez-faire leadership style than the female candidate would."

Katherine Rake, director of the Fawcett Society which campaigns for sexual equality, said stereotyping was more important than female rivalry in holding back women’s careers: "Stereotypes about what is an appropriate role for women are still very strong in people’s minds and there is still a cultural barrier to women making it into senior positions."


Copyright 2007 Times Newspapers Ltd.
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Tonya
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Posted on Monday, January 08, 2007 - 05:55 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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Abm
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Posted on Monday, January 08, 2007 - 05:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ain't it?

Why women do each other that way?
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Tonya
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Posted on Monday, January 08, 2007 - 06:02 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I suspect some men know inherently.
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Ntfs_encryption
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Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 03:33 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Why women do each other that way?"

Genetics....???
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Eastwest
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Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 07:22 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nfts, It's simple Women hate other women.
I think I said this before in another post,
that I work with a woman from Africa,who HATES american black females.
She will tolerate Anybody else,but not black american women.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 08:29 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola Boof hates black american women too but theyre too stupid to see what a phoney she is. She thinks we're supposed to be walking around naked teaching race hatred and calling black men "King" with her dorky self if you pay attention most African women are backwards and have backwards mentality and a lot are plain ugly with the voodoo and all. I really liked the ones who are IN AFRICA when I went for vacation though.

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Abm
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Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 11:17 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It often seems that men who are mortal enemies will treat each other more considerately than will women who are bestfriends.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 11:36 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thats not true Oprah and Gayle are best friends but when women are good to each other they accused of being lesbians as Oprah and Gayle have been accused. I believe Oprah when she says that if she was lesbian she would have no problem saying so and that she is not lesbian and I also have a girlfriend in Chicago who dated Steadman Graham about twenty years ago. She says he was like a bull in bed always sexing her and they broke up because he started having sex with another girl on the side so I have seen that men dont really want women to be friends they encourage women to fight and bicker mainly over status and men.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 11:38 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Black women have their strongest relationships with other black women and they are FRIENDS and look at all the black women in publishing who are promoting other black women. This article is focusing on one stereotype and not true in general.

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Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 12:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Enchanted,

Men are often suspicious of women huddling together because they will often conspire against and sabotage each others relationships with men. Especially if/when they're unhappy in their relationships or are unhappy because they ain't got no man.

And no one would really gives a dayam about about Oprah's relationship with Gayle if SHE didn't make such a big deal about it. I mean, really. Why does anyone really have to know about how and why they're such great friends, anyway?
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Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 12:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I read your first paragraph you are SUCH the sexist pig Abm seirously!!! LOLLLL!!!!!!! Stark raving sexist pig!! Yeah that what women do because god knows we have nothing in life but to have a man.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 12:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Enchanted,

I may be a "sexist pig". But that don't mean I'm wrong.

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