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Grind
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This blogger discusses some data from a study on interracial dating online that was the subject of a segment on 20/20...
http://theasianplayboy.blogspot.com/2006/04/freakonomics-cost-of-interracial.htm l
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Upon crunching the statistics – Levitt found that a Hispanic male had to make $77,000 more than a WM to be on an even playing field with regard to getting responses from WFs.
A BM had to make $154,000more than a WM and an AM had to make $247,000 more than a WM to be on an even playing field with regard to getting responses from WFs.
For black women – a HM had to make $184,000 more than a BM and a WM had to make more than $220,000 to be on an even playing field with regard to getting responses from BFs (no numbers given for AMs).
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Apparently it takes 66K less in income for white women to consider a black man on equal terms as white man than it does for black women to consider white men on equal terms as a black man. |
Grind
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If true, this a pretty remarkable finding, considering that a white woman dating/marrying a black man entails a much greater loss of status than the inverse. |
Grind
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Also, does this mean that the tards who've referred to black women as gold diggers owe them an apology? |
Enchanted
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Great figures just go to prove how much black women love and value black men above all others. I make over $200,000 a year, $75,000 in bonuses--Ms. ZANE not the only baller around here  -- and I've been married to managing editor of JET and to a black CEO and I would have happily married both those wonderful black brothers for 0 cents (nada penny) because they were some really great black men inside and out but it's true a White man would have to earn OUTRAGEOUS DOLLAR for me to actually marry him.
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Enchanted
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White women settle for big penis a lot of time Grind and BM will worship her more than a White man will because BM feel he has a prize so that the equation for white women. With White men sex and worship not a factor for black women and BW usually really love a WM in order to marry him. I can promise you WM are more open to IR than BW are but WM try to get sex from BW and sisters are not easy to have IR sex as WW are. As for White Women status there is more pressure on a White Woman to marry because her womanhood is judged by her being 'picked' Scarlett O'Hara syndrome so marriage is more important to her than it is to Black Woman because Whitewoman were always raised and trained to be wife of the manorborn so trading status of white skin for "married lady" is often the trade off for a WW wedding a BM. BW were slaves and raped freely by everybody and nobody expects much. I think BW have more freedom by not being wanted like other women are, but when your lonely and no man protects you its hard to see that.
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Grind
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"Great figures just go to prove how much black women love and value black men above all others."
Right. |
Grind
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Enchanted,
You would think that it would be the other way around considering that the type of black women who use online dating services (above average socioeconomically) have much fewer eligible mates of their own race to choose from than their white counterparts. |
Enchanted
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It would be the other way around if BW were not raped by WM and other disrespect. I dated a Latino man who tried to let his friends "have a taste" things like that. Yes black men will treat you bad too but many times when a White or Latino wants to date black woman they re setting you up for humiliation and exploit you. I have a friend who dated a white man who made videos of her sucking him off in different locations after he had enough video dumped her. She never knew she being used until years later the videos were everywhere! Its not safe for BW to date other races because you are still a "nigger" to Non-blacks no matter at the end of the day.
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Abm
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Enchanted,
So then is the issue really one of Black women being especially loyal to Black men or is it more about them being suspicious of and fearing non-Black men? |
Enchanted
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With anything in life its both. You have seen how black women are raised Abm as opposed to how black men are raised. Our culture teaches black female from day of birth that the only man for her is black. This is where the loyalty comes from is the slave tradition and church. Vast majority of black women do not even understand that they can love someone other than a black man. If black women were treated EQUAL then maybe she would be free like a White Woman to have less loyalty to her race. White women have little loyalty and Asian women ditto because their men put them on pedestal advertised to everyone to want. If black women had all that going maybe there would be no loyalty. Its a number of factors.
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Abm
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Enchanted,
I don't know what the hell it means for Black men and women to be "treated EQUAL". But I doubt I'd much want to be apart of such.
Men and Women - Black, White and Taupe - are DIFFERENT, and should be treated thusly.
Now. I don't see or know where Black women are raised to be anymore faithful to Black men than Black men should be to Black women. But I would agree there are MANY things in the socialization, media and culture of America that compel all men to pursue Whiter/Lighter women. That, plus men generally being the pursuer in intimate relations, result in more Black men than Black women having non-Black mates.
But even that appear to leveling as the rate of increases of Black women marrying non-Black men is beginning to outplace that of Black men marrying non-Black women. I have personally began to witness many more BW/WM, BW/HM and even some BW/AM couplings. |
Enchanted
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Here you come wiht your attitude Abm. I said that Black WOMEN and White WOMEN are not treated EQUAL a black woman is not expected to be Scarlett O'Hara nor can she be is what I said she has less options because she is BLACK and female. On your next subject, If you look at magazines published by BLAC KMEN they are clearly sending a message that black males can and should marry any kind of woman they want. Lets talk aobut HOME TRAINING. In my home my brothers were allowed to talk about any kind of woman they thought was pretty and my parents did not lecture them that they can only choose black. There was a doublestandard for me and for all black girls everywhere I have been at church, the home everywhere and my father seemed to be proud when he see a black man on t.v. married to a white woman and black men in general but because the first thing a Black Man will do is call us a "bed wench", "black whore", "we wanted it" if we even talk about LOOKING at a white man. I do not believe that you have not seen this growing up as well. You are older than 40 so I know we have seen the same thing. ESSENCE magazine did one story about BW choosing White Husband and the black community nearly shut the damn magazine down!!!! I now because one of their editor post here and were friends. However BLACK MEN magazine just put a latina on the cover "most sexy woman of the year" and they routinely put more non-black women than black and black men are not complaining. Did you write a letter Abm complaining that there's no sisters ont he cover? Please do not be unfair because I do not have a problem with black men and I am not against IR or black men with white woman is fine.
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Lola_ogunnaike
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[b]I make over $200,000 a year, $75,000 in bonuses--Ms. ZANE not the only baller around here :-)-- and I've been married to managing editor of JET and to a black CEO[/b]
Two broken marriages in your past. And yeah, sure you make $275k a year. In your dreams. |
Abm
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Enchanted,
Sounds like your parents didn't treat their children fairly. Or at least that's YOUR perception of what went down.
But for the record, I have told and will continue to tell my own daughters that so long as the guy treats them well, I won't make any bones about his not being Black.
It's not Black men who nearly shut down Essence for proferring the prospects of BW dating/mating non-BM. Only Black WOMEN have the power to do that.
And I'm not familiar with the issue of Black men magazine to which you refer, though I doubt I would have written to complain about it. I'd probably just avoid buying and reading it.
And I like my attitude just fine, Thank You. |
Lola_ogunnaike
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Ok, so Enchanted came on here lamenting her dark skin and saying that lighter skinned gals have more prospects. Now, she is claiming to earn a quarter million a year and to have been married to two black brothers. I just don't believe her. It's more likely that she earns 25k a year and was once married to a dude who drove buses for a living. (Nothin' wrong with driving buses). |
Enchanted
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Whatever.
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Enchanted
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Abm are you trying to claim that the majority of brothers support nd promote IR unions for black women? I dont care how YOU were raised I bet that if you had an honest bone you will admit that you have seen just what I saw all your life growing up as well. Otherwise most BM wouldnt be married to very light skinned BW would they? Lastly ESSENCE magazine is owned by two black men and it was black men who wrote the most letters and eventually the editor of that magazine my friend (who was married to a white man) was let go partly because the black men OWNERS feel she is putting her personal life in the magazine too much. That would have NEVER happened to a black man with a white wife. SO UP YOURS.
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Lola_ogunnaike
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That is actually not how and why the previous Essence editor in chief left. Enchanted, stop lying. The only way you know her is from her photo in the magazine. Talk about a vivid fantasy life! |
Enchanted
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I dont have to prove myself to a fake like you Lola. You pretend to be somebody but for those of us who really are we wont waste time responding to trolls and this is my last post to you. Have a nice time dreaming about Justin Timberlake and white men sperm on your face.
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Lola_ogunnaike
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Dreaming about "white men sperm" on my face. Is that what you dreamt about last night, Enchanted? Or did you dream of finding a truly effective skin lightening ointment? |
Abm
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Enchanted,
I don't recall it being foisted upon BW that they can ONLY marry BM. Certainly prejudice, racism, class and sociological circumstances dictated that in all likelihood BM/BW would mate.
But, of course, things have changed.
I've already said there's a preference for Whiter/Lighter women.
And, perhaps partly because of that, BM were much more likely to enter IRR's. But now BW are catching up in that regard. Were we will end up? I don't know, though I suspect much of what we current consider African American culture will NOT endure.
If the Black male owners of the Essence truly were bothered by BW dating WM, the article never would have seen the light of day to begin with. And if the desires of BM truly dictated the fortunes of Essence, the magazine probably would have been killed off DECADES ago.
PS: Maybe your friend was fired because she's wasn't a particular interesting or competent writer, regardless of whom she was married to. |
Tonya
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Enchanted, So then is the issue really one of Black women being especially loyal to Black men or is it more about them being suspicious of and fearing non-Black men?"
Black men are just sexier. Sure there are some sexy white men and many sexy Hispanic men and tons of sexy Asian men IMO--but there are MANY MORE sexy BLACK MEN than there are of all the men mentioned above. No honest Black woman in her right mind can disagree with that! |
Abm
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Tonya,
You think, all other things being equal, OTHER women would consider Black men to be sexier too? |
Abm
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Tonya,
And WHY do you find Black men to be sexier? |
Ntfs_encryption
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"White women settle for big penis a lot of time Grind and BM will worship her more than a White man will because BM feel he has a prize so that the equation for white women."
I don't necessarily agree with that. Why would a white woman be a prize? And why would anyone believe that? There is nothing special or overwheliming about being with a white woman simply because she is white. I've heard this kind of thinking before and it never ceases to amaze me why anyone would believe having a white woman is a prize. I really can't relate to such thinking. I've dated women of just about every ethnicity and race imaginable and I never felt one race was a prize or object of adulation over another. It was the individual that impressed or interested me -not their race. And I'm not suggesting that my thinking represents every one who dates people outside their group. There are people who date outside their group because for whatever reason, they are attracted to a particular group. I knew white guys when I was in the Navy who would date only Asian women -period! They had no interest in white women and would often make very harsh and nasty jokes about white women. WTF?
I've met many Asian, Latino and white women who were attracted only to black men. I've discussed this opposite attracts thing with them in great detail and the they really never had a specific reason other than they were attracted to BM. The black big dick syndrome had nothing to do with it since they said they did not believe it because many of the black men they dated were not card carrying members of the Mega Penis Union. So much for that myth.
But I'm sure there are instances when it may be true (white woman trophy phenomena) but it is not restricted to black men -trust me! I have seen how other races react to white blond women. I have personally witnessed the reaction (in varies countries) of Asian, African and Arabic men to white blonds (sorry,but there is some kind of global mystique about a white blond, I don't personally get it but I have witnessed it) and their eyes would light up. But to generalize that all BM believe having a white woman is like having a Super Bowl ring or a $575,000 red Testarossa, is simply not true. But I will tell you this, having a drop dead gorgeous woman, regardless of her race, is prestigious and will up a mans status. This I do know. But believing all BM feel they have a trophy of some kind just because a woman is white is an over reaching generalization.
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Abm
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Ntfs,
I can't speak on any particular numbers and percentages. But I DO think there's a material number/percentage of Black men who consider Whiter/Lighter women to be a prize. And I do think there's a material number/percentage of White women who are in hot/heavy pursuit of the mythical big, black dyck. |
Brownbeauty123
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"It would be the other way around if BW were not raped by WM and other disrespect. I dated a Latino man who tried to let his friends "have a taste" things like that. Yes black men will treat you bad too but many times when a White or Latino wants to date black woman they re setting you up for humiliation and exploit you. I have a friend who dated a white man who made videos of her sucking him off in different locations after he had enough video dumped her. She never knew she being used until years later the videos were everywhere! Its not safe for BW to date other races because you are still a "nigger" to Non-blacks no matter at the end of the day."
I've heard more black men who've done that to Black women.
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Tonya
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"Tonya, You think, all other things being equal, OTHER women would consider Black men to be sexier too?"
I wouldn't doubt it, ABM. As expected though...I think some women from other races date/marry black men simply because Black men are an easier catch than the men from their own races. But still, I wouldn't doubt that a very large number of women from other races think that black men are sexier, because Black men ARE...and they are women too.
"Tonya, And WHY do you find Black men to be sexier?"
Cuz they got it all...the look and the attitude.
I'm just as much into personality as I am into looks, prob'ly even more so.. The black men's suave unique personality--(more than ANYTHING else)--is seriously what could get a woman like me to do things I know I shouldn't do, even when I know I shouldn’t do them. It's perhaps the most powerful force on the planet. And it’s unrivaled, beyond compare. In fact, when with a white or non-black man, I was not afraid to let my guard down UNLESS he was "culturally black." |
Ntfs_encryption
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"Now. I don't see or know where Black women are raised to be anymore faithful to Black men than Black men should be to Black women."
I agree. I don't see it either.
"That, plus men generally being the pursuer in intimate relations, result in more Black men than Black women having non-Black mates."
Excellent point. Many if not most people -especially black women, fail to realize this.
"But even that appear to leveling as the rate of increases of Black women marrying non-Black men is beginning to outplace that of Black men marrying non-Black women. I have personally began to witness many more BW/WM, BW/HM and even some BW/AM couplings."
You're on a roll bro. In fact, a black female friend of mine and I were discussing this very issue last night. As a black woman, she conceded that it was true.
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Abm
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BB123,
That's cause there generally is A LOT more sexual stuff going down between BM/BW than there is between WM/BW.
When the numbers/percentages of WM/BW sexual encounters increase, so will the illicit XXX IR videos.
Truss.
Tonya,
My wife has often said to me that White women just LOVE them some Black men. She says their whole body language change when a brotha is near them.
I want to argue with her. But, to be honest, I've always had good relationships with White women.
VERY good ones.
Too bad we Black men can't make more effective use of all our suave unique personality. |
Brownbeauty123
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ABM, most Black men have very good relationships with White women. While, as a Black woman, I've never had good relatinships with White women within my age group--particularly those who date Black men. |
Abm
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Ntfs,
This last holiday season, I saw a virtual epidemic of WM/BW couplings. My wife and I started to count them as we shopped, dined out, went to movies, etc.
I try not to stare at them though, because I don't want them to think I disapprove of them. Hell. It AIN'T my business. |
Abm
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BB123,
Hows your relationships with White MEN? There are certain stats that suggest that they're probably a dayamsight better than most brothas. |
Brownbeauty123
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I've been seing more IR couplings between White men and Black women too--but the men are usually "wiggers" which is a huge turn off to me. |
Abm
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BB123,
You'd prefer your White men to be less wigger and more cracker? |
Enchanted
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Abm I have had countless white men and white women tell me that they are simply treated better by blacks than by their fellow whites in romantic relationships. According to whites a black person will cater to and work overtime to MAKE IT WORK with a white partner and the "love" that white women and very light skinned women feel for black men is because they know black men love and desire them because they are white or light skinned. If you notice darker black women do not light up around black men in fact they are DEFENSIVE when they pass by black men because they know what black men think/feel for them and white women are the opposite because they have been told you will cut off your right leg for her. In my life I was lucky to have a father and brothers who spoiled me rotten, because I expected that same treatment from other black men and because I expected good treatment from black men I gravitated to the ones who would give me good treatment. I honestly did not know that black men were colorstruck because my daddy and brothers sheltered me from it. On the other hand, most sisters do not expect anything good from BM because they were born rejected and they keep playing it out over and over. This is why I cant get with Alice Walker, Kola Boof, the WOE-IS me darkie brigade.
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Enchanted
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A wigger is a fake and who wants a fake man? |
Ntfs_encryption
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"I can't speak on any particular numbers and percentages. But I DO think there's a material number/percentage of Black men who consider Whiter/Lighter women to be a prize. "
Oh, I don't question that for a second. But I don't buy this sweeping generalization that every BM that is with a WM is with her simply because she is white. I've questioned many brothers about this and their reason for being with a WM had nothing to do with white skin. There were other reasons, some involving serious personal conflicts with BW, but white skin was not the driving force. I know it does not apply to me. But I agree there are some brothers who seek light complexioned black women. I've had two brothers openly admit it. But I've also had black women brazenly admit that they were attracted to light complexioned men. One of them shocked me with this revelation since the guy she was seeing at the time was a dark complexioned brother! Go figure... I guess it boils down to personal preference and what attracts you. I know how I am about women with big legs, butts and hips. I'm just as bad as the red bone addicted brother. What can I say.....???
"And I do think there's a material number/percentage of White women who are in hot/heavy pursuit of the mythical big, black dyck."
I don't question that either. But to say every non-white woman who dates a BM does so because she believes in the BBD myth will soon find out it is just that, a myth. So that doesn't hold water either. In fact, I've talked to countless non-black women about this. Some actually believed it (based on their personal experiences) while others did not. Done deal.
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Brownbeauty123
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At work, most of the White guys kept things very, very platonic. And since I previously used to work at a bank, most of the White male customers who flirted with me were older and married. None of them were single or in my age group. |
Abm
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Enchanted,
You left out an important part of your analysis: Those longsuffering sistas you describe at some point birth, raise and influence future generations of Black men... |
Enchanted
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Suffering black women? Do you even read these posts Abm? |
Brownbeauty123
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ABM, white men like Tom Cruise do nothing for me, he's too much of a cracker. Somebody in the middle range like Brad Pitt...or Wentworth Miller lol |
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Enchanted,
I imagine some Blacks - men and women - make more of an attempt to make IRR work. Though, perhaps the flipside of that is their non-Black mates will cut them some slack about certain things we Black foks beat the hell out of each other for. Or maybe the EXPECTATIONS are just so much greater amongst BM/BW than within IRR's.
I don't know. |
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"Too bad we Black men can't make more effective use of all our suave unique personality."
I think other more powerful men are much too JEALOUS to let that happen. I wish more black men understood this. No doubt then they'd be more effective, because they'd likely realize they don't have to wait for others to LET THEM. |
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Abm did you ever see the show "Fat Actress"? white women across the board say that Black men make them feel more beautiful than white men do black men respond to them in a way that white men do not black men are far more impressed with their hair for instance than someone who already has that same hair type. White MEN claim that black women are more down to earth and easier to please because they aren't used to being treat good to begin with. I DISAGREE WITH THAT, but a lot of white men say that.
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Enchanted,
I try. But, GOD, it seems if one questions or challenges what you're saying, you get so darn sensitive.
Just as Black women are being raised/influenced by the Black men in their lives so too are Black men being raised/influenced by the Black women in their lives.
BB123,
Remember: When he was broke, Brad Pitt was with Robin Givens. But when he got on, he traded UP to Gweneth Paltrow, Jennifer Aniston and Angelina Jolie. |
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Enchanted,
I saw some of that Fat Actress show. And I do recall something about Alley dating/boning some Black guy. But the whole dayam thing was so ridiculous to me I couldn't really take much of what was going on seriously.
I guess there are some Black foks who are easier to be pleased via White mates than via Black ones. Whether that's most or all such couplings, I really can't know or say. |
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"Remember: When he was broke, Brad Pitt was with Robin Givens. But when he got on, he traded UP to Gweneth Paltrow, Jennifer Aniston and Angelina Jolie"
There are plenty of brothas who are followed his route as well.
I just wouldn't let this discourage me from IR dating. |
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Tonya,
I often think the dilemna we Black men have is that to more effectively compete is this world we may have to surrender certain elements of our character and behavior that you (and other women) find most appealing. |
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BB123,
Good point. |
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ABM: "I often think the dilemna we Black men have is that to more effectively compete is this world we may have to surrender certain elements of our character and behavior that you (and other women) find most appealing."
...or win a war.
Fascinating study, Grind! |
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Nfts and Abm do you recall hearing about people in Russia and Europe immigrating the U.S. because they were TOLD STORIES about streets paved with gold and a Utopian Paradise in AMERICA the promised lanad? That is what I am saying. I am not asserting that the posts I wrote are TRUE FACT, Abm do you understand I am simply trying to answer GRINDs questinon about why Whites and blacks hook up so often and bad mouth their own race. White women tell me all the time that they should just give up on white men because they heard how black men will kiss the ground they walk on I know black men and black women EQUALLY who kill themselves to make relationship with a white person work because they dont want to look like a fool for choosing the Utopia.
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Enchanted,
But interestingly, Kola and others on this board say that non-black men make them feel more beautiful than black men do. They say that non-black men are far more impressed with their black skin, for example, and make it a big fuss over it. They see this fetishization as a positive thing, whereas they see the fetishization of white traits by black men as something sinister. |
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Ditto black men Grind they are eveen more violent and hostile in their reactions to black women being with white men. Also notice that White people constantly advertise, worship and fettish WHITE BEAUTY as their security blanket but blacks do not like black beauty and seek to lighten it. Even I have admitted that I think lighter/mixed people are more attractive than black ones. I am just being honest with you but I dont know why I'm like that. I just am. Would I prefer my sons marry lighter skinned girls? YES
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Tonya,
Those are NOT mutually-exclusive, babe.
Enchanted,
Perhaps IRR's start off as you describe. But eventually the true nature and desires of foks prevail against all those extra niceties and consideration IR couple might start out extending to each other.
Eventually, a WW will probably NOT give much of a dayam about the prejudices/racism BM husband's experienced if at some point its clear that mofo can't keep a job. |
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Damnit Abm!! I just said all that you just said about the Utopia!!! |
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Am I speaking in French? |
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Enchanted: "Even I have admitted that I think lighter/mixed people are more attractive than black ones. I am just being honest with you but I dont know why I'm like that. I just am. Would I prefer my sons marry lighter skinned girls? YES"
Then you should understand why many Black men would sooner date/marry Whiter/Lighter women.
Now. What will get interesting for you is what you're going to do when your sons bring home (Whiter-than-snow) Becky and Holly who raise their kids to look down upon the Blackness they got from YOU. |
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Enchanted,
Stop being so dayam egotistical! |
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Who said that I don't understand why black men sooner date/marry white/light women MR. ABM? Who said that??? You REFUSE to read my posts.
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Yes Abm I have confessed that I'm doing ALL OF WHAT YOU SAY. I have confessed already |
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And don't for get, ABM. LOTS of Black men have "made it" while being the men that we adore. I'm not saying he gotta be "pimped" or "thugged" out...infact I hate that! There are scores of Black men who have made it while being Culturally Authentic. I think you are Culturally Authentic. I think Denzel is Culturally Authentic. I think Cosby is Culturally Authentic...
As a matter of fact, it's easier for a Black man to be Culturally Authentic than it is for a Black woman... much easier.
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"This last holiday season, I saw a virtual epidemic of WM/BW couplings. My wife and I started to count them as we shopped, dined out, went to movies, etc. "
Bro, you don't see it as much as I do. I live in SoCal and it is the rage. In fact, a friend of mine won some tickets to a jazz concert and she asked to go with her. So we went and I happened to notice that every single brother -except one couple, was with a non-black woman! As I recall, there was no less than twenty five brothers there. All had none non-black women. But what was interesting was the fact that the couples all appeared to be in their 40's and a few were probably over 50. So it appeared they probably have been together for quite some time.
"I try not to stare at them though, because I don't want them to think I disapprove of them. Hell. It AIN'T my business."
Ditto.......
"...............but the men are usually "wiggers" which is a huge turn off to me."
Gotcha! I agree 100%! That is a big turn off. I have never had anything less than contempt for white females who suffer from "wigger psychosis". I've never dated a white woman who was a willing victim to such bull shit. I have been very open and clear about this nonsense to every white female I have interacted with.
"On the other hand, most sisters do not expect anything good from BM because they were born rejected and they keep playing it out over and over. This is why I cant get with Alice Walker, Kola Boof, the WOE-IS me darkie brigade."
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Good point. I like that.
"While, as a Black woman, I've never had good relatinships with White women within my age group--particularly those who date Black men."
Wow! Why is that...??????
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Enchanted,
You okay, babe?
Tonya,
I think if one's trade is Art, Entertainment and Sports, I would agree. But I do NOT think that's the case with respect to OTHER trades.
A Black man who's too Black in most corporate, government and other fields of endeavor will get kicked out on their a$$es just as fast - if not FASTER - than Black women. |
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I am fine Abm but you can be a handful and annoying for women are not Kola and Tonya I am the woman she hates because I am Black American, dark black, never had problems with black men and I am colorstruck because thats what I come from. Sorry all. I dont apologize for whatever I am I just am.
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Ntfs,
I really have no problem with foks dating/mating IR'ly.
Would I prefer there remain an African American culture and community of some sort? Sure.
Do I think there will be such, say, 100 years from now. Probably not. |
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Enchanted,
Nor should you. But understand, in a forum like this, foks are going to question and challenge what they may consider a controversial position.
Kola's DEFINITELY bore her share of criticism, condemnation and reproof for what she's expressed. And THAT'S one of the things I really dig about her.
To be honest with you, the ONLY thing I find unique about what you've done is you simply expressed what A LOT of Black women (and men) already think and feel and raise their children to think and feel. |
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"This last holiday season, I saw a virtual epidemic of WM/BW couplings. My wife and I started to count them as we shopped, dined out, went to movies.."
I told y'all that MONTHS ago, remember? But y'all didn't want to believe my ass. In fact y'all thought I was starting some shit and y'all jumped all over me: You Schakspir AND Nfts! But all I said was: Black female/white, Hispanic & Asian male coupling is on the rise like a mf...especially in The Hood! |
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ABM,
A recent study suggests that there is considerably more discrimination against dark skinned black men than women in hiring.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06360/748295-51.stm
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In a University of Georgia study, light-skinned black men had the edge in hiring over dark-skinned black men, regardless of credentials.
“We found that a light-skinned black male can have only a bachelor’s degree and typical work experience and still be preferred over a dark-skinned black male with an MBA and past managerial positions,” says Matthew S. Harrison, a University of Georgia doctoral student in applied industrial organizational psychology, who presented his research in August to the Academy of Management in Atlanta.
“This finding is possibly due to the common belief that fair-skinned blacks probably have more similarities with whites than do dark-skinned blacks, which in turn makes whites feel more comfortable around them.”
With women job applicants, the findings varied a bit.
“If the credentials were different, in the case of women, the more qualified or experienced darker-skinned woman got it, but if the qualifications were identical, the lighter-skinned woman was preferred,” Mr. Harrison said.
He surveyed 240 undergraduates—72 percent of them were female, and 87.5 percent of them were white. Students were asked to rate one of two resumes that accompanied one of three photographs of a theoretical black job applicant whose skin color was light, medium or dark.
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"Wow! Why is that...??????"
I really don't know. The White girls who dated Black men right off the bat just did not like me, and were the most challenging to work with. I even had one try to get me fired.
There was one who I used to always feel staring at me when I wasn't paying much attention. Even in the breakroom, she would always glare at me to watch my every move. I came close to confronting her about it, but chose not to because I didn't want to lose my job. Eventually, I noticed that her boyfriend, who was Black, worked with us so I assumed maybe I was his type and she was fearful he would stray. |
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Tonya,
Will you be condemning those couplings as you do those between BM and non-BW?
Or will you (as often the case) blame BM for Black women going the IR route?
Grind,
That don't surprise me one bit. Why? Because darkskinned Black men are FEARED. Darkskinned Black women are NOT.
Also every evil, demonic, malevolent stereotype is attributed to darkskinned brothas. They're cast as criminal, convicts, murders, etc.
And if there brotha is also especially tall and big, all other things being equal, he can dayam forget about getting the gig.
And those factors come into play when foks are hiring. |
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Both my husbands were light skinned brothers but I never really noticed that until the last few years of all this color discussion. I did not honestly know that I was colorstruck until the last four or five years but its strange because I do think I look good I do like my dark skin I am think dark people are beautiful just not as beautiful as mixed or lighter people. |
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BB123,
Maybe she was actually turned on by you but didn't want to cop to her burgeoning lesbian jungle fever. |
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Enchanted,
How does you preference to lighter, mixed people manifest in how you deal with and treat family, kin, friends, etc.? |
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Brownbeauty let me tell you a secret. White women are always paranoid that their black man will eventually want to be with his own kind and the reason is because white women are the ones who long to be with their own men after a while so they project their own fantasy cheating on to their black men mates. A white woman doesnt mind if a black boyfriend cheats on her with another white woman, but they fear him going back to black.
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ABM,
Gotdamn, I think you know me too well.
#2 |
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It doesnt Abm nobody notices and I did not notice until just a few years ago like I said--I think I look good, I love my dark skin and I generally think dark black people are beautiful. I treat them with respect and pride but deep down I feel mixed and light skin people are more beautiful versions of us.
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"In fact y'all thought I was starting some shit and y'all jumped all over me: You Schakspir AND Nfts! But all I said was: Black female/white, Hispanic & Asian male coupling is on the rise like a mf...especially in The Hood!"
Uhhhhhh....sorry my dear but I never jumped on you for stating you have seen a rise of BM/None-BM relationships! Why would I criticize you for something I see every day with my own eyes? I have criticized you for your blistering and denigrating generalizations of all black men -not increases in IR dating.
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Okay, now I see..
I also notice that black men in IR relationships look at other women (black women in particularly) more openly than if they were with a Black woman. |
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Light skinned black men love black women much more than very dark ones the really dark black men are assholes to be honest. Not all but a good majority of them hate all blacks not just women. Light skinned black men are more proud to be black and more loving.
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Abm
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Enchanted,
It would be interesting to know the statistics on BM who abandon White wives for BW. I'll bet the numbers/percentages are extraordinarily high.
One of my wife's friend's is mixed. When she was a young kid, her Black father abandoned them while lamenting he'd diluted my bloodline. Then he when out and married and had six kids with the Blackest chick this side of Africa.
My wife's friend's has never recovered from what happened. Imagined being made to feel your whole existence was a part of some biga$$ mistake your father made. |
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Enchanted,
If you say so...
BB123,
I think MANY Black men who have White women still feel like they're entitled to have Black women, and, ESPECIALLY Black cQQchie.
So, yes, some of those brotha will be rather casual if not downright audacious about their cheating on Becky with Shaniqua.
And there are MANY Black women who, largely to spite those White women, will oblige those brothas.
Thus, that White girl paranoia you describe. |
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Because, really. I can understand a brotha loving a White woman, I can understand him marrying a White woman.
But I can't for the life of me understand a brotha going the rest of his potent manly life never again tapping into some Black p*$$y.
I can't see THAT shyt with Superman's vision. |
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"I do think I look good I do like my dark skin I am think dark people are beautiful just not as beautiful as mixed or lighter people."
Can you explain exactly why you feel that way? And could you give details as to why you believe that? And I will commend your honesty for admitting this. Most black people probably would never be as bold and honest although their thoughts mirror yours. So you definitely are not alone. You can believe that.
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Brownbeauty123
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ABM, so are you saying that you totally understand a Black man never wanting to LOVE us again?? |
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I already said I dont know why I feel that wy I just do. |
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Enchanted,
I think both Black and Mixed people are beautiful just in very different ways. |
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BB123,
No. That's NOT what I'm saying at all. I'm just saying I can understand how a BM can love and marry a non-Black women. Just as I can understand how a BW can love and marry a non-Black man.
But there's something inside of me that can't quite handle the gravity of NEVER again having sex with a Black woman. Honestly, even thinking about that makes me twitch and shiver some.
And, I guess, that's probably why I couldn't marry a White woman. Because I KNOW I'd be cheating on her with sistas. |
Brownbeauty123
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Also, why do you always compare Black beauty to multiracial? You never say that Light people are more beautiful than Whites or Asians--you always note to say that they are more beautiful than those who are darkskin. |
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"Light skinned black men love black women much more than very dark ones the really dark black men are assholes to be honest. Not all but a good majority of them hate all blacks not just women. Light skinned black men are more proud to be black and more loving."
Gotta agree. Black Black men can be some evil muthafuckers, boy. And Light skinned Black men are OFTENTIMES the most loving. Yup. No arguments here.
hear, hear!!!!!! |
Ntfs_encryption
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"Light skinned black men love black women much more than very dark ones the really dark black men are assholes.........Light skinned black men are more proud to be black and more loving."
Enchanted, I can't agree with that type of generalizing. I have no idea what your personal experiences are but they don't sound healthy nor positive.
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I agree Brownbeauty I said that already but light/mixed is a better version of us we're still black.
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Brownbeauty123
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No, you didn't Enchanted. You said that Light/Mixed people are better looking and more beautiful. In your eyes they are superior...
I think both are 'equally' beautiful just in different ways.
It's never good to compare yourself to others.
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Ntfs,
Enchanted: "Light skinned black men love black women much more than very dark ones the really dark black men are assholes.........Light skinned black men are more proud to be black and more loving."
Perhaps Enchanted provide within her (faulty) thinking above part of the answer to your questions. |
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"I think both are 'equally' beautiful just in different ways.
It's never good to compare yourself to others."
Brilliant point BB123! With that statement, I think we can now close this entire light vs dark conversation out. Your comments summarized reality, intelligent and logical thinking.
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Doberman23
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who came up with these stats? when i was broke as hell i got more good luvin than what i do now. |
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I agree with Ntfs experiance. That is how it is here in SoCal. However, Ntfs you are fooling yourself if you think WW are just like any other women in regards to how society sees them. WW are a prize for every minority man. The media is there constant publicist. If you had someones idea of beauty shoved down your throat constantly you are going to start to believe that shyt. It is just like the study done with the doll test.
Whites especially WW are fetishized not only by whites but by non-whites. There is no "mystique" in blond hair. And sorry but that sounds a little like White supremacist ideology to me. As regards to other races of men desiring them. What makes you think that the White Supremacist fetishizing of White skin stops here in the U.S. That shyt is worldwide.
Also, Brownbeauty no Black men who are with non-black women do not notice Black women more. Not from what I have seen. There have been numerous studies that have been done to show that Black men who date IR do so exclusively. So believe me they ain't lookin at nothing "Black".
And also NTFS I've met many White, Asian, Latina women who are exclusively attracted to Black men. And there are different reasons for that. But the most common reason is because they know how Black men will treat them. And they know that they will be treated like a "prize". Alot of times as well it is sex too.
And please remember these Black men are seeking out these IR relationships (EXCLUSIVELY)!!!!!! |
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Enchanted you like so many other dark-skinned Black women(my sister included)clearly have problems with your skin-tone and your self-image. And like so many other dark-skinned women you are in serious denial about it. That I personally think is the problem with our community. Nobody wants to admit the deep, psychological issues that we face.
White America(White Supremacist) also have been waging war on the Black phyche for centuries. Moreso than they have been doing on any other race. |
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Enchanted said:
“Here you come wiht your attitude Abm. I said that Black WOMEN and White WOMEN are not treated EQUAL a black woman is not expected to be Scarlett O'Hara nor can she be is what I said she has less options because she is BLACK and female. On your next subject, If you look at magazines published by BLAC KMEN they are clearly sending a message that black males can and should marry any kind of woman they want. Lets talk aobut HOME TRAINING. In my home my brothers were allowed to talk about any kind of woman they thought was pretty and my parents did not lecture them that they can only choose black. There was a doublestandard for me and for all black girls everywhere I have been at church, the home everywhere and my father seemed to be proud when he see a black man on t.v. married to a white woman and black men in general but because the first thing a Black Man will do is call us a "bed wench", "black whore", "we wanted it" if we even talk about LOOKING at a white man. I do not believe that you have not seen this growing up as well. You are older than 40 so I know we have seen the same thing. ESSENCE magazine did one story about BW choosing White Husband and the black community nearly shut the damn magazine down!!!! I now because one of their editor post here and were friends. However BLACK MEN magazine just put a latina on the cover "most sexy woman of the year" and they routinely put more non-black women than black and black men are not complaining. Did you write a letter Abm complaining that there's no sisters ont he cover? Please do not be unfair because I do not have a problem with black men and I am not against IR or black men with white woman is fine.”
To me that study that Grind presented just confirms what ive always known and that is black women are doing more of the choosing when it comes to interracial dating than most choose to believe. Also enchanted…your father sounds a hell of a lot like mine (infact it sounds like you’re describing mine to a T) ….plus I will never forget that in church there was a double standard as well. Ill never forget when I was in sundatschool one of the teachers asked us what type of man or woman we were looking for as far as a relationship goes….ALL of the black boys in the class said a nice woman with this and that, etc….and every single one of the girls (with the acception of me) said a nice black man…with this and that…..you shold have SEEN the daggers in the eyes of my Sunday school teachers when I didn’t specifiy what race of man I wanted….LMAO…it was so classic. And one fo the Sunday school teachers who tried to chastize me with her eyes was a WOMAN…the other was a man. So yeah aANYONE being HONEST with themselves will admit there is definitely a double standard when it comes to this…..in fact I actually saw stats that confirm that black women face more resentment than black men in their families when it comes to bringing a non-black partner home….ill find those stats. |
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Let me tell you though when i was in sundayschool class that day....i felt like i was being put on trial for murder.....lol |
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Thank you Misty I told Abm but he has different experience than the majority of us black folks especially from DOWN SOUTH or maybe black men just dont have to remember wht wasnt imposed on them like it is us. We deserved to be lynched if we even thought about saying we thought a white boy can be cute.
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ok here those stats are that show black women face more family disapproval when it comes to interracial relationships than black men.
"4) Family approval of interracial relationships is most likely lower for Black women than it is for Black men. Black women’s families had more objections to interracial relationships than their Black male counterparts. Many relatives of Black women (especially male relatives) tried to “protect their daughters/sisters/cousins from White men†who they felt would sexually exploit Black women. Given the history of White male sexual violence against Black women this is not surprising. However, family opposition also has the affect of denying Black women’s agency because their judgment is held up to much more scrutiny than Black men in interracial relationships."
http://ebonywomenandivorymen.com/index.php?showtopic=7275
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Thank you Misty I told Abm but he has different experience than the majority of us black folks especially from DOWN SOUTH or maybe black men just dont have to remember wht wasnt imposed on them like it is us. We deserved to be lynched if we even thought about saying we thought a white boy can be cute.
very true.....i also think they dont want to admit it because it would make many of them feel guilty deep down inside for the lack of reciprocity. black women have just been more tied to black men than the other way around....and this is especially true from my experiences....but you can even see it in the past when it came down to social issues and concerns facing black women and those facing black men. |
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Misty, but you're more likely to get sexually exploited by a Black men than a White one. So I don't understand all this fear being put into Black women towards IR dating. |
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Ladies,
I've never attempted to thwart ANY sista from dating whomever (whatever) she wanted. Nor have I ever promoted brothas IR'ly dating. And I'm no more critical of BW dating non-Black than I am BM dating non-Black. BOTH of such relationships are likely to be fraught with problems, issues and contradictions that are inherent to the history and culture of this land.
Now. As it often the case with sistas, you quite contradictory assert your independence of brothas while seeking their approval when what you SHOULD do is whatever you choose to do, dayam what brothas think of it.
Because, like with most other things, brothas will either accept what you do and love you with/for such. Or they won't, in which case, you'll just have to accept being happy with some White (Hispanic or Asian) dude SANS the approval of Black men. |
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BB123,
Since Black women do not date White men with the frequency by which they do Black men, you have no way of proving that.
It's entirely possible that if/when the rates of BW/WM relationships increase, the rates/incidents of Domestic Violence between them will increase to a level comparable to those of BW/BM. |
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There you go Abm who WHO claimed you tried to THWART sisters dating who they want? We simply saying that black boys and black girls raised in this country including YOUR ASS were raised that black girl can only be respected if shes with a black man anything else is rape. Black boys could put Wonder Woman and Raquel Welch poster on thier wall and that supposed to be OK right? You damn RIGHT that is rIGHT.
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I agree Abm that domestic violence is rampant among WM/WW so it will definitely rise if more BW start to be with WM. The problem is that only BM are constantly shown engaged in criminal wife beating rape while white men shown in movies as normal guys 99% of time and if there is a white evil guy he is surrounded by 10 good white guys. You are right Abm because I knew a black girl married to a white man beat the crap out of her and she stayed for 15 years with him.
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I'm not sure if Black women who date/marry non-Black men are really seeking the approval of Black men in and of itself, or if they're just trying to escape the harassment and dirty looks and commentary from BM when they are in public with their non-Black paramours.
I've found that Black women will generally keep their personal opinions to themselves when they see BM out with non-Black women, but for some reason, BM feel compelled to openly voice their feelings on the subject in a disrespectful, and often confrontational, manner. I think this is what BW are trying to escape and avoid moreso than receiving a go-ahead or permission to date whomever they choose. |
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Enchanted,
You don't really know what I was raised to think and believe. Do you?
I'll have you know I've had older female relatives who dated and MARRIED White men. And I don't recall there being much bones made of it. Especially not amongst my older male relatives. Hell. If anything, foks appear to be especially motivated to AVOID embarrassing them.
And I recall seeing PLENTY of Black girls who had David Cassidy, Shaun Cassidy, Leif Erickson and Lance Kerwin posters on their walls +25 years ago. |
Abm
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U_S,
Look. Nobody should be overtly harrassed for dating whom they choose to date. But I also think foks who date IR'ly, male and female, have got to get over themselves a bit.
So what if foks stare some.
The truth is this country history informs how foks behave. EVERYONE who seeks to change the course of that history are going to have take their blows just like everyone else did before them.
Eventually, perceptions and expectations and mores change, and, after awhile, it's no big deal at all whom one dates/mates.
BTW: You should ask Moonsigns whether BW will keep their opinions to themselves about her having a Black husband. I wager she'll have some interesting tales to tell.
Why, just the other day the White girlfriend of a younger relative of mine complained to my wife about all the harrassment she gets from BW. |
Brownbeauty123
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"Since Black women do not date White men with the frequency by which they do Black men, you have no way of proving that."
Well, it just doesn't make sense to me when people tell Black women not to date White men because they will use you for "sex" and exploit you, when there are just as many Black men who are likely to do the same thing.
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Brownbeauty123
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"Why, just the other day the White girlfriend of a younger relative of mine complained to my wife about all the harrassment she gets from BW."
What did she say exactly? |
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Did your wife deck her Abm? LOL Brownbeauty I agree but that is a racial thing more because black men also suffer mistreatment in their relationship with WW mostly based on they are still black. BW are not valued by any men because they still nigger women to the society even can give good sex.
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I meant to say more specifically white women use black men for sex and to pay bills then dump him for a white man or a black man with more money it is very common so that what I mean black men get the same poor treatment they dish on black women but in reality all non-blacks use black people both male and female for their own gain and you have a very high rate of black men who also will never marry or have a mate not just black women.
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Brownbeauty123
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Enchanted,
Most of the Black guys will say that they are dating White girls because the women are paying their bills and giving them money. |
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Sometimes its like that but its also the other way around alot of time. I know a lot of brothers who work two jobs to keep a white woman and find out the baby they had with her is by their best friend they find out but they still stay with her. Oh well shes white. LOOOOL
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BB123,
Sure a Black men often abuse/misuse Black women (and vice versa). But there's still a much greater likelihood that a BM will properly date and marry BW (and vice versa) than there is that WM will.
Plus, you have all the history, suspicions and concerns about racism - MANY still quite valid - to contend with.
My recommendation to BW who consider dating non-White men would be very similar to that of sistas dating brotha: Take your time to get to know the man as a person BEFORE you attempt to get to know him as a mate/lover.
My kin's White girlfriend complained of all the dirty looks, criticism, namecalling, etc. she gets from sistas. She claims some have even attempted to start fights with her.
Enchanted,
No. Of course not. My wife explained to her that many Black women feel as though WW are reducing the chances of their finding a good Black man to love. Plus they're dealing with the notion of being rejected by Black men. |
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Some WW pay to be with BM. Some BM pay to be with WW.
Who knows who pays more for whom? |
Brownbeauty123
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"No. Of course not. My wife explained to her that many Black women feel as though WW are reducing the chances of their finding a good Black man to love. Plus they're dealing with the notion of being rejected by Black men."
And what was her response to this? Was she understanding? |
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BB123,
She appeared to understood. Though not enuff to give up my young cousin.
The dilemna with race issues is we foks to be magnanimous about shyt that we ourselves likely would not.
I mean, if you fell for this wonder Native American guy would you give him up because N.A. women have the hardest of times scoring good N.A. men? |
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Well, no need for me to trouble Moonsigns with her personal experiences. I know as a Black woman it doesn't bother me when I see Black men with White women, Asian, etc. I also know as a Black woman that when I'm out with my White male gentlemen callers the flack I receive from Black men. Even in most instances when I'm in the company of WM, strictly platonic or professional relationships, brothers still have some off-color commentary. Also the White women in my family who are married to Black men have told me that they've never been troubled by Black women.
I know there are instances where Black women will openly talk shit when they see BM with non-Black women, especially White women, but sisters will generally complain to each other, i.e., "The other day I passed three brothers with White bitches on my way home. Fuck 'em!," rather than publicly confront the couple. At worst, BW will make an indirect comment, but BM who oppose seeing BW with non-Black men will openly make their feelings more than heard.
That's been my experience anyway. I'm sure, like most things, it varies depending on region, age group, neighborhood, socio-economic status, and education level. |
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U_S,
We all have different experiences, perspectives and perceptions. And those are a product of, influenced and amplified by the criteria you describe.
I used to travel a lot with prior jobs I had. And I'd often be in situations where I'd be away somewhere with some White female peer, doing our work, dining out, hanging out at bars, etc.
Amazingingly, the ONLY foks we ever gave us anyt flack was Black women. Though, honestly, I really kinda enjoyed women I didn't even know being jealous about some chick I wasn't even screwing. |
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Yes, Abm, isn't that a kicker!
When I'm out with WM THAT I'M NOT EVEN ROMANTICALLY INVOLVED WITH and brothers say things to us, I have to resist the urge to tell these WM to kiss me - just so we could REALLY piss this guy off. HA! |
Abm
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U_S,
Next time, tell some hatin' brotha the White dude you're with has got a 12-inch dyck and knows how to use it.
Hahahahaha!!! |
Brownbeauty123
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" mean, if you fell for this wonder Native American guy would you give him up because N.A. women have the hardest of times scoring good N.A. men?"
Yes. |
Abm
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BB123,
You're lying your Brownbeauty a$$ off, girl. |
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Only 1/3 of American Indians marry other American Indians did you now that there is hardly any of them as it is but they live so separated they cannot find other Indians to marry and Indian men prefer to marry white blond. Sad.
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LOL What's wrong with me putting other people's happiness before my own, ABM? |
Abm
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Enchanted,
Native Americans are the only one's in this country who can rightfully complain about having gotten a rawer deal than African Americans.
Why? Because they're almost all DEAD. |
Abm
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BB123,
The only foks who truly put their happiness before other are mothers for their children.
Everyone else will pretty say Fuhk you. I've gotta get MINE. |
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Well, well, well.
Here's my POV:
There will always be those men (and some women) who "date out" but are always doggin' the women they are with in order to get a$$ from "their own". However, these types of "playas", so to speak, are usually "dogs" all around. And will, in my opinion, treat anybody with disrespect regardless of color. It's also strange to think that some (black) women would perceive these "stares" or "glances" as a sign that they are truly wanted and that the woman he's with is "trash", or he wants a "strong black woman", and fail to see these maniuplating types of men for what they are really about. Because, again, usually these types of men (and some women) are about getting a$$ and manipulating situations for their personal gain. Color is the manipulating factor and only an idiot would see it otherwise.
Regarding people who "date/marry" out but will glance (or ocassionally stare) at attractive members of the opposite sex who also happen to share their "color", well, it's natural. I know my husband takes notice of attractive black (White, Asian, Hispanic, etc) females, because I take notice of attractive white (black, Hispanic) men. It's something innate --it's a pleasure to enjoy the appearance of an atttractive person. But enjoying the appearance of an attractive person of the opposite sex, and who also shares your "color", does not mean that there is an intellectual, spiritual, or emotional connection. And, as most human beings age, we realize that, in life, there are more meaningful things to life than a quick piece of "attractive" a$$ that could be either dumb, diseased, a complete bore outside of the physical, and/or all of the above.
Considering not everyone agrees with interracial unions, I've had a few negative exchanges with a handful of black women over the years. However, in my opinion, there are a far greater number of black women who, like me, are much busier creating, maintaining, and enjoying their own lives to be concerned with mine.
And just like there is a myth that black men have bigger dycks than any other color of men, it is also a myth that white men don't appreciate, respect, or desire white women who have dated or, at one time, have been married to a black man/men. It is also a myth that "once you go black, you never go back." That is so untrue!
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ABM: "Amazingingly, the ONLY foks we ever gave us anyt flack was Black women. Though, honestly, I really kinda enjoyed women I didn't even know being jealous about some chick I wasn't even screwing."
Been there and done that! I loved all the chicken head eye ball rolling and hateful stares! Ha! Ha! Ha!
U_S: "When I'm out with WM THAT I'M NOT EVEN ROMANTICALLY INVOLVED WITH and brothers say things to us, I have to resist the urge to tell these WM to kiss me - just so we could REALLY piss this guy off."
Good! You should do exactly that every time you are with these men. Piss 'em all off I say!
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Toubobie
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Username: Toubobie
Post Number: 149
Registered: 08-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 03:24 pm: |
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"It is also a myth that "once you go black, you never go back." That is so untrue! "
Moonsigns,
So does that mean that you ARE going back to "Boris"???
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