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Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 2274
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 06:58 pm: | 
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I adore you two.
There’s a sort of a plaintive sweetness about your recurring rant-fests.
Cynique.
It’s so sadly obvious how much Kola craves some form of approval, if not love from you that even a hardened observer would plead that you giver her a hug (already!).
I imagine in some sense you are that Egyptian grandmother who rejected her. And she hates you so much because she needs you to love her.
Of course, that’s not your responsibility
But obviously you like her. Kola incites elements within you that make for great copy. And she’s willing to say/do things that you lack the courage and arrogance to attempt.
Now. In your self-protecting aloofness, you’ll feign not caring enough about what Kola (and I) think/feel to consider what I say worth your notice. After all, you are here just for fun. And Kola is just this petulant child with whom you enjoy teasing then discarding by your leave.
Right?
Well, then. If that is how you TRULY feel, WHY have you chosen to invest so much time/copy in rebutting her myriad (*wink*) protestations?
You are smart, wise, savvy and ironic. You have the rare gift of reciting within a single sentence the Wisdom of Ages. And elicit a hardy chuckle in the process.
A Kola Boof would HAVE to fall in love with you. Have you the courage to feel and admit the same?
Kola.
Do you ever really listen to what Cynique says? Do you appreciate it? Because Cynique has most succinctly and consistently articulated the viewpoint of many, if not most, AA’s.
Simply: “Who the F*%& are YOU to come to this country that WE built to tell US Black Americans what they should think/do for themselves?
And how are you going to reach lighter, ‘less’ African-looking Blacks - like Cynique – when your frequent diatribes reek of such volcanic contempt for their very physical presence?
Are you REALLY a champion of the oppressed and downtrodden? Or will you, as Cynique has insightful inquired, install a new caste system that simply reverses that which already exists?
Would you appreciate me and/or what I have to say any less if I looked more like Shemar Moore than Evander Holified? If so, how should I feel about that?
And it’s ironic that you seemingly applaud the management of America as it execute its policies abroad yet do not see or eschew noticing any link between them and how the mindset that governs said policies manifest in the very ways that you decry here in the US.
You are the living dream of a home we have never known; one that promises to be secure and welcoming and will offer us warmth denied us these many centuries.
Will my mother nurse me…and all my kin?
In many ways together you two are an archetype of the struggles between ALL of the African Diaspora. |
Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 64
Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 08:04 pm: |
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I love Shemar Moore!! Shit. You know that man named ED GORDON on BET??? I love him.
Mr. Unite-US (Charles Brister) who took me to the After-Party Saturday night is a yellow-red man with an orange-brown Afro. He's now trying to date me and I'm seriously considering it.
My teasing CYNIQUE for her being "Old Yeller" is directly related to COMMENTS she made years ago about the whole issue of dark skin vs. light skin.
I'm sure these light skinned people are INSULTED by my choices of words....but how do they think my millions of dark skinned children have felt for centuries in this society that caters to and encourages Mulattos while killing off MY root??? I say it's about time we had some "phrases" to go right along with GOOD HAIR and "FAIR"......so that's why I say AUTHENTIC Blacks and AFRICAN hair---now take that!!!
And haven't I always been the one to offer an olive branch...to offer love and friendship to Cynique??? YES, you're damned right.
And ABM....I have every right to COME OVER HERE and tell you what I think and how I feel, because I'm BLACK and I live HERE--not Africa---just like you do. And on top of that, YOU ALL came out of my black ass, I didn't come out of yours!! I AM THE MOTHERSEED. You don't have to listen....but I WILL have my say. And as far as "caste systems"---there won't be any need for that once we're all BLACK like God created us in the first place.
Why call yourself Black if you're only CREAM colored and CLAIM your blackness when it's....convenient??? And why should the REAL black people have to live in the shadow of the Mulattos who don't do a damn thing to represent and uphold the honor of MY CHILDREN.
I came here to plant a SEED. A seed to strengthen, unite and nurse MY ONES back to their true glory.
I don't know what kind of people with half a brain couldn't SEE CLEARLY how much I love and adore Black Americans, otherwise, I wouldn't CARE to get in your business, to get in your face, to get on your nerves----you don't see other Africans doing it, do you???
No, because unlike me, they really don't give a shit.
But you mean EVERYTHING to me, because I KNOW everything that happened. I am educated.
I love Cynique and greatly admire her. I've told her that a HUNDRED times. I think she's a brilliant writer who is WASTING herself by not taking her talent more seriously....and I have invited her places and tried to befriend her and each time....I get spit in the face.
You have a lot of nerve ABM to try and put this on me.
It's her and Thumper that attacked me from day one and you know it. I tried to kiss both their asses, but what good did it do?
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Libralind2
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Username: Libralind2
Post Number: 22
Registered: 09-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 10:03 pm: |
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Ummm My sistah Kola..?? I am really now confused by the comment you make above: Mr. Unite-US (Charles Brister) who took me to the After-Party Saturday night is a yellow-red man with an orange-brown Afro. He's now trying to date me and I'm seriously considering it.I thought you were in "LOVE" with your babies daddy..? Im just saying. Perhaps where you come from two loves is common..? Im just asking. I just seek the truth. |
Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 66
Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 10:19 pm: |
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I am SINGLE Linda.
And yes, I AM in love with my baby's daddy, and only him.....but.....it doesn't look like we have a "romantic" future...
....and to my surprise, there are OTHER black men, wealthy goodlooking ones like Charles Brister, who accept my career and are very interested in me.
So although I'm "considering" dating Charles, he is WELL AWARE about my feelings for Thomas---because I've known Charles for 4 years and he's been after me since day one.
It's just that we never spent any time together until we were both free this past weekend, and he (and several men, actually) were really putting the moves on me. It came as a surprise to me.
NOW....I like Charles---but in many ways, he's more like a big brother (meaning--I don't have sexual fantasies about him, although he's very cute). And he's not much of a challenge. He basically does anything I WANT and is ready to obey---which is not my type.
There's another guy, a radio executive named Rick, who I WISH was after me...but he just wants to be able to say he fucked Kola Boof and nothing more serious, I can tell--so I won't even return his calls. But Rick is more my desire and he resembles Thomas and is TALLER than me.
AND...now that I finally got myself away from the isolation of the ranch....I see that there is life after Thomas.....and that I'm not TOO OLD to start over and that maybe there is a new man in my future.
I had given up on myself.
But you're right, Linda. I still love Thomas and if he would accept my life choices and come back to me, I would be here to welcome him.
He is the ONLY MAN that I have ever loved.
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Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 2057
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 10:20 pm: |
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Oh, boo-hoo. Why is everybody always trying to get oil and water to mix? What difference does it make if Kola and I clash? Anybody hankering for sweetness and light should look elsewhere. Where is it written that 2 strong-willed, diametrically opposed women have to make nice? Later for playing kissy-face. EU. Kicky-ass is more invigorating. |
Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 68
Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 10:34 pm: |
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Cynique...you and I are more ALIKE than different.
You just are looking deeper, mom.
I feel like we're Debra Winger and Shirley McClaine from "Terms of Endearment".
You just REFUSE to hug longer.
bitch!
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Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 2059
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 12:01 am: |
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Oh Pleeeeease. Stop trying to foist yourself on me. You don't inspire any maternal instincts in me whatever. Stuff it. |
Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 74
Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 12:01 am: |
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OK, ABM---where are you??
I'm missing you.
I had taken your recent COMEBACK as a good luck sign that my life was taking a turn for the better.
Where are you?
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Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 2278
Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 08:07 am: |
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Kola,
I’m not sure your response to my juxtaposition of Shemar Moore and Evander Holified addressed the crux of my question of whether you would award special favor to darker people.
Or maybe you did…perhaps even unbeknownst to yourself even.
Maybe it is only fair-skinned WOMEN you take exception to and not their equally-light complexioned male counterparts (especially if they are a six-pack abs brandishing Moore or as rakishly dapper as Gordon).
I would agree that darker people should not be relegated to some shadowy, subservient social status. We might disagree, though, about the degree to which such exist and/or the manner in which the situation can best be remedied.
And I’m not sure insulting lightskinned people simply because they are such will help save your “root” (Would Lebron James become a better basketball player by castigating Michael Jordan?).
Or is insulting lighter Blacks the most ‘benign’ of your objectives?
Kola: “You don't have to listen....but I WILL have my say. And as far as "caste systems"---there won't be any need for that once we're all BLACK like God created us in the first place.”
ABM: Hmmm? So Queen Kola would outlaw mixed breeding altogether? Or, to put a finer point on this: You “love” Shemar Moore and Ed Gordon. But if you had your druthers, they would not exist?
I agree with you that Cynique’s writing skills are worthy of publication. But it’s easier for some people to express themselves sans the necessity to earn profits from their writing and/or some editor/publisher breathing down their neck.
Kola: “You have a lot of nerve ABM to try and put this on me….It's [Cynique] and Thumper that attacked me from day one and you know it. I tried to kiss both their asses, but what good did it do?”
ABM: HAHA! Kola. One of the things I like most about you is for all your great intellect, eloquence, stature and bravery, you are still very much like a young girl who’s struggling to be heard and appreciated. You are both the worldly queen and ingénue princess. For that reason, I should think - if you are somewhat patient and open-minded - you’ll have very little difficulty finding worthy men to take care of and love you. 
PS: My mother lived with me for about 5 months. Early during her stay, she once intrusively criticized how I was disciplining my eldest kid WHILE I was meting out the punishment. To her (and my own) surprise, I yelled an expletive back at her. Later, I sheepishly attempted to apologize to her. But my mother lovingly said, “No need to apologize, baby. I was wrong to interfere. This is your castle, not mine. Here YOU are King.” |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 2282
Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 08:42 am: |
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Kola,
Your contrasting feelings about Charles and Rick remind me of a similar experience my daughter is enduring.
She’s currently gah-gah over one boy (B1) while another one (B2) feels the same for her.
Of course B1 is more handsome and stylish.
But B2 is nicer, more mannerable and is so smart he’s only 14 yet is already taking college-level math/computer courses.
PLUS: I know B2’s parents (married, college-grads, good gigs, etc.). They’re good people. His pops and I toss back drinks together ever now/then while haggling over whether the ‘80’s Magic’s Lakers would have beaten the 90’s Jordan’s Bulls (I’ve got dibs on Magic).
Conversely, from what little I can gather about him, B1’s a ‘decent’ student. And is being raised by his grandmother (no word on the whereabouts of either of his parents).
I’d NEVER tell my daughter whom she shouldn’t like/date (as at this stage of her life that’s the rational equivalent of a blatant invitation for her to do the opposite). But I have told her that when the day comes that she wants B2 WAAAAY more than she does B1 don’t say I didn’t tell her so. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 2077
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 11:41 am: |
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ABM says:
"I agree with you that Cynique’s writing skills are worthy of publication. But it’s easier for some people to express themselves sans the necessity to earn profits from their writing and/or some editor/publisher breathing down their neck."
Cynique responds:
I'm disconcerted, ABM, by how you never opt to put me down no matter how obnoxious I become. >>giggle-snicker<<. And yes, you are correct about why I don't elect to try and publish. Spontaneity is my forte. I just write what's on my mind, and I write it the way I would say it. I kinda think this makes me come across as a person instead of a screen name. The same is true of Kola. Her passion transcends her words. (Why would anybody want me and her to stop having cat fights? Can't you just picture our sneers and glares and hear our wicked laughter.) |
Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 76
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 12:39 pm: |
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ABM,
You are a Black American descended from African people who were enslaved and who were taught a certain set of Principles by their abusively inhuman Slave Master/Father.
I come from the pure part of your ancestor's beginning. A place where so called "light skinned" people are only recognized by both the Africans and themselves as "abberations"....created and foisted upon us by Invaders. In fact, my White Arab father was one such abberation, a heroin addict who deeply loathed the Mixture and desperately wanted Black Sons---belieivng this would bring Restoration of his true identity and powers as a human being.
This privileaged Egyptian man instilled in me the same core beliefs. Taking me with him on escavations to Napata and Meroe and making me promise to fight White Supremacy by not allowing it inside the most sacred place of ones ownership----my own body.
It is really truly impossible for you and I discuss the issue Light Skin versus Dark skin, because I DO NOT BELIEVE in such categories.
You are either Black to me...or you're not.
For Americans, I try to be polite and respectful of THEIR system, just as many other Continental Africans do.
Still....it doesn't mean that I am incapable of loving people who are "yellow" or "mixed". I could very easily love lightskinned people of either sex as sister or as loverman or as brother. AND I ALWAYS HAVE. But there is also grave resentment towards WHITE SUPREMACY and everything that is a PART of White Supremacy---which most definitely includes the creation and hierarchy of color regarding LightSKinned people.
Although I have been TAUGHT your way of thinking by being raised by African-Americans......I am not FROM IT, ABM. And you must respect that just as I refer to certain people as "black"---out of respect for you and to get along with you.
And you must also begin to respect BLACK PEOPLE as "human beings".......and try to undestand that you have not done that when you call The Rock or Vin Diesel a "Black Man".
You are like the White Man, your slave master, when you do that. You are spitting on our humanity and not acknowledging it as itself just as he taught you to do.
You are saying: "Blacks are so low and worthless.....anybody can be one."
Which comes from your Slave Master----NOT FROM US.
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Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 2080
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 03:55 pm: |
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Oh, blah, blah, blah. Is there no end to this drivel that like mold, seems to perpetuate itself? Dear lord, grant us relief from this monotonous drum beat being pounded by a ostracized half-breed. This creature in our midst is like a ancient vampire who can exist only in darkness and who yelps in indignation when the sunlight of a new day exposes her fallacy. Quick! Somebody get a cross. Or a wooden stake. Or a clove of garlic. |
Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 84
Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 12:19 am: |
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ABM---
if you are a High Yellow black man; if that's what you're getting at.....then please know that I would be very happy to marry you and be a good wife to you.
Is that what you meant?
Because I would not turn away a "light colored" black man if he is brilliant as you are, is good to me and my sons, pleases me sexually and loves me. He could be high yellow or ALBINO white--I would not turn him away.
But even if my husband was yellow colored (husband meaning I love him devoutly and am committed only to him)---I would still see the dark skinned men are more "authentic", more truly black and "African". That's what I am saying, and I'm just being honest with you.
For instance, I would love to be married to a man like Malcolm X, my hero, who was very lightskinned.
I have sex fantasies about THE ROCK, Ed Gordon, Barack Obama, Boris from "Soul Food" and many yellow black men and mixed race men.
I would even marry a Latino or a White man---if no black men showed any interest in me.
Is that what you're asking?
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West_africa
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Username: West_africa
Post Number: 45
Registered: 08-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 04:02 pm: |
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Something a bit strange... |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 2483
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 05:25 pm: |
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Strange, indeed. |
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